Bootlegger's Bluff/Mary Peck/Kristeen White/Julia Bride... Beware!!! It's a Scam! Ottumwa Iowa

Please read this complainants other complaints. She constantly says she WAS NOT PAID IN FULL BY ME. THE TRUTH IS OUT, SHE DID GET PAID IN FULL BY ME. Yes, Paypal has been wonderful. They advised me that I did in fact pay her in full. The reason the paypal claims are still open is that they were closed before I could prove to them that it was paid from my credit card.

First of all......PayPal has been wonderful in this matter.....they have been trying to get responses from Mary Peck on several cases. Now, the reimbursements came in in "bits & pieces" the first 2 times was done through a PayPal reversal system. Whereby the monies which is in the Sellers PayPal account is taken in order to satisfy a CLAIM. PayPal was able to get a little bit. There was still a balance owed, so now PayPal had to contact Mary Peck and remind her that she had open claims that she had to pay up. After endless back and forth and her telling me she was all paid up, I had to have PayPal reiterate to her that there was still a balance owed. She took her credit card and made a payment. I was notified...I went in to claim the monies (still not the full amount) and I reversed it by accident. I didn't know what I was doing because-I'VE NEVER BEEN RIPPED OFF BEFORE!!!!!! Then she was told that there was still an outstanding balance (she didn't like that either) so she went in again a 2nd time with her credit card to make another payment, PayPal sent me the instructions-I went in and collected it. No big deal. Why would anyone collect on 3 different transactions and decline 1? There is a difference between PayPal doing an automatic reversal as opposed to PayPal notifying the buyer that there is monies waiting and you can go in and claim it.

Just for the record.................it really doesn't matter if you had reimbursed me the entire amount all at once....I would've still come on Ripoffreport and complained because No One and I mean NO One should ever have to wait months for reimbursements and or goods. You brought this on YOURSELF!

Maybe we shouldn't provide FAKE Tracking Numbers---Maybe we shouldn't endlessly LIE to paying customers!!!!

OH YEAH, ONE MORE THING. I Think we should get this right and not false again. She did NOT DECLINE A REFUND FROM ME....she accepted the refund and then deliberately RETURNED THE REFUND TO ME SEVERAL DAYS LATER. Lets tell the truth now ms. ciciotti. You keep accusing me of being such a liar, yet I just keep catching you telling things that just arent quite right??????

Put my money where my mouth is huh? BEEN THERE ALLREADY, DONE THAT ALLREADY, dont intend to do it again. YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF!!!!!! I also have a letter that was sent to ms. c from PAYPAL showing the payments that were made to her, when they were made and the balance due of 16.00. Which was paid right after rec'ing that letter showing what was left. I ahve a copy of that refund as well. I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHOW ANY AND ALL THE COPY OF THAT LETTER AS WELL. I have stacks of emails from this woman as well. She is totally belittling of people and it is all in black and white too. This woman has had her refunds since early november and very early december. This is ridiculous and harrassment. Filing false reports is against the law too????? If you have filed reports to any of the agencies you keep mentioning on your behalf, you have filed false reports and given false information. You mite want to remember that. Continuing this harrassment on this forum and emails sent to me and kristeen and filing reports still up to this date after being refunded in early nov. and dec. shows great harrassment on your part as well. I am done with this foolishness, I have the paperwork and files to prove that you were paid and when.

Hey Mary, Go ahead and put the rest of the money you owe me through PayPal right now and you will never hear another peep from me again-how does that sound?

Put the money (my money) where your mouth is. You have just said that I have intentionally declined a small reund from you in order to continue harrassing you.....Really???? Put the money in and let's see what happens-until then-I'm on you like white on rice!

I'll tell you what........I'm a "stand-up Gal" I invite anyone who is interested to contact me directly at the following: (((redacted)))I will gladly share with each and everyone out there the stacks of e-mails from Bootlegger's Bluff, Mary Peck-I will gladly forward you the proof (the statement) from PayPal which clearly shows that she did not pay me back completely. It's all there in black and white-records don't lie, this person has made a living at it!

I have one more thing to add. She states she gets the names she has thrown out in all her reports here by the investigative report? NOT TRUE. she didnt get julie brides name from there? SHE MITE HAVE GOTTEN AN ADDRESS FROM TOWN HALL AND A NAME FOR THAT ADDRESS, BUT SHE DID NOT GET A NAME OF JULIE BRIDE ASSOCIATED WITH ME. Julie bride was discussed in length before. I gave a customer that ms ciciotti set up to try and get my home address from me julies address to SIMPLY SEND A MONEY ORDER TOO BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS MS CICIOTTI TRYING TO GET MY ADDRESS. I HAVE FELT THREATENED BY THIS WOMAN IN THE PAST NOT REALLY SURE WHAT SHE WAS CAPABLE OF DOING, I WASNT ABOUT TO GIVE MY HOME ADDRESS TO SOMEONE THAT HAD acting so strange???? BUT SHE ADDS JULIES NAME AS HAVING PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED IN A CIRCLE OF FRAUD AND THEFT????? Ms Ciciotti even emails me after I give this ficticious customer julies address and gloats I HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS AND I KNOW WHO YOU ARE???? So, this is why the address for the money order to be sent to was my cousins. POINT GIVEN...YOU HAVE SLANDERED A INNOCENTS PERSONS NAME AND HOME ADDRESS I MITE ADD WITH NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE SHE WAS INVOLVED IN ANYTHING , JUST INNUENDOS AND SPECULATION. NOT A VERY NICE THING TO DO?????

MS CICIOTTI CONTINUALLY SAYS THAT SHE WAS NOT PAID BY ME. THIS IS A LIE!!!! SHE WAS PAID BY ME, SHE KEEPS SAYING HOW IGNORANT I AM ? YET SHE IS THE ONE THAT SAYS in a previous complaint that I called her dumb and etc.??? It was her that had the belittling comments to me, as I am sure now people can see from her posts how belittling she is of other people with the ignorant name calling and etc. I WAS TIRED OF BEING CALLED NAMES AND IGNORED HER AFTER SENDING HER LAST REFUND. SHE WAS PAID IN FULL, IM THE IGNORANT ONE YET SHE RETURNED THE LAST REFUND I MADE TO HER??????? WAS IT SO SHE COULD CONTINUE THIS CHARADE OF SAYING SHE WASNT PAID? PAYPAL TOLD ME THAT I FULFILLED MY OBLIGATION AS I DID SEND ALL THE REFUNDS THAT THEY SAID SHE HAD COMING. She returned the refund to me willingly and that was AFTER SHE ACCEPTED IT AND WAS PAID IN FULL. So, she was paid in full, she just did that to continue this harrassment of me and I decided that it would be left as it was because I was really tired of her crap period!!!! If she wanted to short herself by playing that game, it was her problem. I was tired of her continual emails day after day after rec'ing her money and all the other crap. I HAVE PROOF OF MY REFUNDS TO HER, I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT WITH MY TRANSACTIONS WITH HER AS I CAN PROVE UP MY PAYMENTS TO HER. This is a game that has went into overtime because of her IDLE TIME. I SENT HER NUMEROUS REFUNDS , THIS WAS I BELIEVE THE THIRD REFUND SENT THAT SHE RETURNED AND PLED IGNORANCE AS TO HANDLE REFUNDS TO PAYPAL. She had accepted the refunds before just fine and no problems, the only problem was SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE PAID IN FULL SO SHE COULD CONTINUE HER HARRASSMENT AND LIES ABOUT BEING PAID IN FULL. But, she was paid in full, she chose to send me 22.00 back and that was her doing after she was paid. I FRANKLY WAS TIRED OF THE BS WITH HER AND JUST WENT ON WITH MY LIFE AS I SHOULD HAVE WITH HER BECAUSE SHE WAS PAID.
MOST OF MY PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS ARE PAID IN FULL, EITHER HAVE THEIR PRODUCTS OR KRISTEEN IS IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THEM. THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS AT THIS POINT TO STIR THIS POT AS THIS POT IS ALMOST EMPTY OF ALL ITEMS. BUT, if she has nothing better to do with her time so be it. SHE EVEN SPENT MONEY TO BUY AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT OF ME AND SHE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A DEBT WITH ME? DOES THIS TELL YOU HOW STRANGE THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS WITH HER MAYBE????? JUST REMEMBER M. CICIOTTI, I HAVE COPIES OF ALL PAYPAL TRANSACTIONS I SENT TO YOU IN REFUNDS. I HAVE YOUR TOTAL ORDER AMOUNT, I CAN PROVE YOU HAVE YOUR COMPLETE REFUND AND WHEN, ACTUALLY THE LAST REFUND WAS GIVEN TO U IN EARLY DECEMBER???? SO, PLEASE.....TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY IS? I also believe that buying investigative reports and all writings to this forum, the over 70 emails rec'd from her I have saved, the harrassment of kristeen and etc. when I have proof that she was paid in full truly constitutes a personal harrassment of me. SHE has also put other peoples names down such as julie bride ? And she connected them with a circle of fraud and thief???? THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR HER, these people have no connection to this matter, but she defamed and slandered their names all over this forum as she had personal knowledge of this matter? YEAH, LETS JUST SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE AS YOU HAVE SAID. You cant take innocent people names and connect them with such things and post it on the internet even giving their HOME ADDRESSES.

I have just read a "long-winded" commentary from Mary Peck of Bootlegger's Bluff....it's the same old song and dance. If 1/2 the effort was being made to rectify and accomodate the angry customers, the customers who lost money, the customers who never received their items, there clearly would be no need for this. The information which I acquired regarding Bootlegger's Bluff and those associated with it either by addresses, phone numbers, names, e-mail addresses, etc....was done through an investigative Background Search. We live in a day and age where unless you have completely taken yourself off the "grid" it's relatively easy and simple to find and track a variety of people and their history of activities. Much of this information is found on the internet itself. I actually paid for this information. The facts are there and then it was given to the Town Hall folks there in Otumwa, Iowa and they verified it....names, the actual addresses, etc....In addtion let me also add that Pay Pal has also added that anyone who attempts to pay for merchandise using the Bootlegger's Bluff.com address can no longer do so. This account cannot collect monies any longer which clearly explains why there was such a quick transfer to another individual under a different account with PayPal. PayPal has advised me that many do this-when the service is no longer provided to them in order to collect monies from customers they then find another person to set up a whole new account to keep the monies flowing. My question arises from the on-going comments & rebuttles which are posted on this site from Mary Peck, aka: Mary White, Mary Richmond......if you are no longer affiliated with this business, why then do you continuously continue to be-labor the point? You obviously didn't think much of the business when it was in your hands and you were lying to customers, not shipping items and taking money that wasn't yours-why do you still care if it's no longer in your hands???? You can say anything you want about me, or the gentleman "Shawn" who was ripped off or the retailer who was taken for hundreds of dollars, the bottom line is we were ALL victimized by you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, stop making excuses for inexcusable behaviors and for the love of God stop trying to justify these unjustifible behaviors!!!! You stole money-period, end of story and as of right now-this very moment, no one and I mean no one has made anything that remotely looks ethical, professional or respectful in respects to repairing what's been done-absolutely no effort. The commentaries have been going on for several months now....but what we have yet to see is one of these customers file a report which states that mary peck or kristeen or julie or anyone else tangled up in the Bootleggers Bluff mess has been reimbursed.....have we????
No one wants to hear about your health issues, personal problems, varnish-related disease, etc.....it's irrelevant!!!! It's no excuse for what you've done to these people. Now, final point, you have not completely refunded me-but I'll tell you what (whoever you are-whatever you are) I am a huge advocate for Consumer Rights, those of my own and others....I suppose you can say that you crossed the wrong person. In closing, to those of you out there who share in my experience with Bootlegger's Bluff there are additional agencies that you can contact in addition to this site which can also be found on the internet, they are as follows:

The National Fraud Information Center
The Internet Crime Complaint Center
Better Business Bureau in that state
Local Law Enforcement

****Let me also add, that there are a great many articles on the internet right now which are discouraging people to even do business on-line. Because the economy is so bad right now, many people are becoming desperate and they are looking for ways to generate monies even if it's illegal. I continue to do business with a select few, they have legitimate names, addresses, telephone numbers-they are Verifiable Sellers through PayPal, etc....what is posted on their sites can be verified in a few simple phone calls. As far as I'm concerned, the time which has been spent on this particular site going-back and forth, the laundry list of excuses, the lies....the deceptiveness........time would have been better spent by Bootlegger's Bluff addressing it's current problems. As I said before, to date, none of these customers have come forward and said "I have been reimbursed, I have received my items".......HAVE THEY???? Insanity: Doing the same thing over & over again expecting different results. The more you respond with your excuses the worse it gets............I'm entertained by your ignorance if nothing else!

COMPLAINANTS COMMENTS,
So far we have discovered fraud and grand larceny-possibly tax evasion----stay tuned.

MY WORD!!!! WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THIS? YOU ARE NOT TO REPORT FALSE STATEMENTS, OR NOTHING THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF?
These are pretty big accusations? WHAT PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE DO YOU HAVE THAT THESE CRIMES ARE ACTUALLY COMMITTED AND THESE ARE THE STATUTES INVOLVED?

Grand larceny involves someone who intentionally takes something , including money with no intention of delivering anything for the money. In other words to deprive someone of this monetary property with no intention of giving something in return? THIS IS SO UNCALLED FOR. THERE IS TONS OF PAINTED SIGNS AND UNPAINTED WOOD IN MY HOME AS WELL . This proves intent to deliver, for the very surest not the intention to deliberately defraud someone of thier property/money. So I have just sat around and painted signs for no reason at all, stacked them all over in my home, in every room actually even the back porch. So, we do this because we like to see signs and pieces of wood just stacked all over the home? We have paints, brushes, postal boxes to pack signs in, varnish and you name it to produce painted, stenciled signs just for grins I guess? This would mean that all the signs that were painted were never meant to be sold ever? Why would I want these signs just stacked through my home? I dont even have any on my walls I dont think? This is LUDICROUS! My family got so aggravated at me for all the crafts around this house. I even set up a card table in front of our tv set that was right in the middle of the room and in everyones way, so i could watch my shows while I painted. DO YOU KNOW HOW INCONVENIENT THAT IS? I did this for no reason at all except to have these signs stacked around everywhere? This doesnt show intent not to deliver items in my book. It shows someone stocked with items to deliver, BUT SOMETHING CLEARLY KEPT THEM FROM DELIVERING SAID ITEMS IN A TIMELY MANNER. MAYBE ILLNESS'ES AND ETC. NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY PLANNED? WHY ALL THE WORK TO JUST PILE UP AROUND THE HOUSE GATHERING DUST? PLus, not to mention the fact that all orders are almost fulfilled or refunded? I also sold much inventory to help out Kristeen to start being semi stocked. IF MY INTENT WAS NEVER TO DELIVER AND TAKE MONEY FOR ITEMS THAT I HAD NO INTENTION OF DELIVERING, WHY WOULD I PAINT ALL THESE SIGNS AND HAVE ALL THIS PACKING MATERIAL AND ETC? WOULDNT i JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY ALL THIS MONEY AND DO NO WORK? Why would I continue to purchase all these expensive stencils to make new inventory for my website? Wouldnt I try to get by with the least amount of money spent to make the most off of my intended larceny? THIS IS COMPLETE TOMFOOLERY!!!!!!
I bet I spent way way over 500.00 on just stencils this last year. I have the reciepts for these items. Wouldnt that seem like an excessive waste of money for me? Plus all the paints, brushes, antiquing, varnished and etc ordered from Viking and shipped to my home, not to mention the trips to michael in Des moines several times a year for these items? Am I just pouring these things down the sink and laughing while I watch the money drain away to the septic tank? NOt to mention the sanding pads and blades for saws and parts for saws and router bits and etc.? Are u even really thinking about what you are saying?
Evidently you have terribly misrepresented what is going on here to someone. Do you realize you can get in trouble for leveling such grand charges about someone? Arent these people going to get a tad bit agitated about doing all this research to find out this situation has been inflated just a tad bit?
Fraud? I suppose we are going up the same tree here? AGAIN, WHERE IS THE INTENT TO DELIBERATELY DO THIS? STOCKED FULL OF INVENTORY AND ETC.
DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE DONE THIS INTENTIONALLY? YOU KEEP SPOUTING THAT ALL I AM IS A CHRONIC LIAR? I have proof of all the things you keep telling people I have lied about. Dont u think there are hospital and doctor records to prove my daughters and my illness and when they happened? How quickly the onset of all of it was? Pharmacy records of medications and how often they were picked up? Clearly this shows unexpected health crisises" not intent to not deliver. I AM JUST SO DISGUSTED OVER THIS STUFF. As I have stated several times, I did not get some of my items out in a timely manner. I issued refunds to customers, I shipped items at a delayed pace when all this was going on. But I did post on our website as you have admitted in some of the other reports that signs were going out at a delayed speed due to illness and heavy seasonal sales and it would be longer instead of shorter to get your items. THIS means that I let you know if you purchased an item, you would have to wait a longer period of time on it. Now, I feel that after you post something like this that your customers are entering into an agreement to delayed shipping. Many times as well after getting the orders I would always email back to verify I got the order and advise them of the delayed time frame. I HAVE SEEN AT LEAST THREE OTHER VERY LARGE SIGN SITES HAVE THIS VERY SAME NOTICE ON THEIR MAIN PAGE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR. SOME WITH VERY LONG WAIT TIMES AND COMMENTS AS We arent a factory, we do all work by hand. If you want it sooner buy it somewhere else. If you want quality, it takes a while to get it. WE dont mass produce.

ESPECIALLY THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE IN MY HOMETOWN OF OTTUMWA MAKING THIS COMPLAINT. YEAH RIGHT, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT. I HAVENT SOLD ONE INTERNET ITEM TO ANYONE IN OUR HOME TOWN FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. THIS IS A FAKE COMPLAINT. I DIDNT EVEN DO ANY CRAFT SHOWS FOR OVER THREE OR MORE YEARS BECAUSE OF FAMILY AND TIME CONSTRAINTS. THIS IS A JOKE! Not to mention where we did all our craft shows here closed down and no one hardly even does one around here anymore. I dont consign any items anymore and havent for years. THIS ABSOLUTELY CANNOT BE A COMPLAINT FROM ANYONE THAT HAS ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ME AND I REPORTED IT TO RIP OFF, this did not come from anyone in my home town that ever could have any of this type of personal knowledge about me. NO WAY!

oh yeah, we have her on possible tax evasion. WHAT KIND OF STATEMENT IS THAT? THE IRS TOLD YOU THAT MAYBE I WAS EVADING MY TAXES. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! People with any common sense know that they dont tell people these things? No this is just another SPECULATION ON YOUR PART that you arent supposed to do. Innuendo's about this matter that you have NO EARTHLY PROOF OF AT ALL. I file my taxes, you betcha I do. And I will file them this year too. I dont hide money, I dont make enough money to hide. If I hid money there wouldnt be enough left to even file any taxes. Heres how it worked. I made a little extra money with the signs before independence day. Then the big season was fall and winter. You worked all summer stocking up signs for these seasons. Guess where that extra money went? After purchasing stencils to continue to have new signs, it went for supplies and Christmas gifts. Maybe some school clothes for my grandkids. Believe me EVERYONE if I could hide any money off my taxes , there would be none left to file. This isnt the lucrative business you all must think it is. Not just one person doing this, I am not flush with extra employees and etc. This was a mom and pop enterprise and there wasnt even a pop.

Oh by the way, my paypal accts are in my name and my address. I didnt lie about who I was, no fraud there? MY website was in my name and address, my domain name as well. No fraud there? AND AS I STATED BEFORE, I told kristeen not to give her real address because of the things I have seen just right here on this forum. I told her it wasnt safe for her to put her real address down and adv. her against it. NO law says she has to have it on her website either, so no fraud with her. And yes, I told someone to send a money order to julie brides house. My cousin julie, NOT MY DAUGHTER. I explained that in another book on here, that was done because I knew someone was fishing for my home address and I feared it was someone I felt threatened by, so I did it on purpose. That isnt fraud? I can have mail sent anywhere I darn please as far as I know thats still not illegal.

complainants comment
Bootlegger's Bluff is a circle of fraud and theft! Remember these names: Mary Peck, Mary White, Mary Richmond (all the same person.)

THIS REALLY GETS UNDER MY SKIN. Those are all my names? I was married twice and as I said before that really isnt that unusual nowadays. So, it isnt surprising that all three of those names mite pop up for me? THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE A CIRCLE OF FRAUD AND THEFT? WELL, im not sure what that has to do with anything? HEck there are people in this town that have been married five times, does that make them A RECTANGLE OF FRAUD AND THEFT? This really burns me the innuendos that because I have had three names that I am a fraud? I have a utility bill that still come in my other married name just because I never bothered to change it, does that really make me a fraud , everyone down there knows its not my name now?

complainants comment
All of this information has now been submitted to PayPal to shut it down completely. Bootlegger's Bluff and anyone & everyone is now being investigated.

Anyone and everyone is now being investigated. that shouldnt be to hard BEINGS THE NAMES YOU GAVE WERE ALL ME AT ONE TIME IN MY LIFE. Problem with this is the only paypal accts are Mary Peck with my address. Shouldnt be to hard to investigate I guess. You know it is next to impossible to open a paypal acct in anything other than your name and address because you have to put a credit card on there to do anything and they trace it right back to your billing address and etc. So I dont know how I could do anything wrong there? I have allready asked them for sure if I owe anything because I am planning on closing my accounts just waiting for the answer back, I will really have no need for them now. I can use my credit cards everywhere I would want to buy anything. Mite leave my personal acct open though. What is it you really expected them to find paypal accts in all three names? I guess I dont understand the meaning of this? I am pretty sure my cousin julie has never had a paypal acct in her life? I dont know about anybody else?

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I ASSUME THAT THIS IS THE SAME FOR WRITING REPORTS AS WELL? THIS IS A COPY OF WHAT YOU ARE "NOT" TO USE WHEN WRITING ABOUT SOMEONE.
Do you notice it says you are not to use FALSE STATEMENTS, UH OH, PERSONAL INFORMATION SUCH AS HOME ADDRESSES SUCH AS JULIE BRIDES HOME ADDRESS?
SPECULATION AND INNUENDO, SUCH AS POSSIBLY BE INVOLVED IN " TAX EVASION" THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT HERE "AND So far we have discovered fraud and grand larceny-possibly tax evasion----stay tuned. Don't forget the Pecks, the White's and the Bride's are all involved in this by name." Now, you sure you have everything you needed to actually prove all this? YOU HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE NAMES RIGHT YET, SO is this a fact you have "PROVEN" fraud and larceny or is this an opinion? It states above you MUST HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS TRUE. Did the IRS tell you personally that I MITE BE INVOLVED IN TAX EVASION? I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS. Another thing to note you say that the pecks, the whites and the brides are all involved in this by name. NOW THAT I KNOW ISNT TRUE TOO. JULIE BRIDE ISNT INVOLVED IN THIS, DON AND ELLEN BRIDE ARENT INVOLVED IN THIS. DOUG BRIDE ISNT INVOLVED IN THIS AS WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED. I dont get the white thing either, It was a previous married name of mine but you state that KRISTEEN WHITE is involved in this scam in your headline. I dont know a Kristeen White , now that mite be hard to prove too? WWHAT IS THE DEAL? If I live in a home owned by Don and Ellen Bride, then they MUST be involved in this , you know for a fact this? If I asked a customer to send a money order to my daughter and then give her JUlie BRides address then JULIE BRIDE is involved in this theft ring and scam? Just because I asked a customer to send a money order there? THIS IS AMAZING, but I doubt you have proof of their involvement in this matter , yet you state this is what you have discovered so far. SO IS IT GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION OR IS IT A TRUTHFUL STATEMENT? I THINK NOT! NO really, I am starting to get pretty agitated over the statements you are making especially of these other people but some of the things you are actually stating about me as well. Yep, I was guilty of lying to the PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMER who was associated with Ms Ciciotti. I knew something stunk like a rat and I wasnt about to fall into that trap. I knew this was fishy and not at all the real story about why they wanted to send a money order. This was for her mother supposedly but she didnt have paypal. This customer has her own website and she didnt have paypal to pay for her mothers item. Now COME ON , wouldnt you know that someone was pulling your leg and I felt if they were going to pull my leg, well...I would have it sent somewhere else. I had a feeling who was really behind and afterwards, yes you guessed it Ciciotti emails me and tells me she knows where i live and has my address. After learning it was the truth, I contacted the PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMER and told her I would like to put the items back in inventory and she didnt really want them after all , did she?

No, she didnt want them. It was okay for all this farce to go around, but it is not okay for me NOT TO GIVE MY HOME ADDRESS TO SOMEONE I FELT AT THAT TIME WAS A LITTLE OVER THE TOP? I had every right to protect my home from this person. I HAD NO IDEA WHY SHE WANTED MY ADDRESS. She never came out and asked me my address before pulling this stunt, so why was she trying to get it so deceivingly? I remember asking her, If you wanted to know where I lived, why didnt you just ask me? WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN TO EASY?

You know when you actually look at the guidelines above that you are supposed to abide by when you do this, I have so many other reports and comments that have been written that were not true at all and were just innuendos and they could not have personal knowledge of what they stated either because it was untrue and wrong. I admit I told the new owner not to put her real address down and GUESS WHAT? THIS IS THE REASON WHY? YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THEM IN REAL LIFE, SO AFTER ALL THESE THINGS, WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO PUT DOWN HER HOME ADDRESS.

Here is another tidbit. I was told unless i was going to accept CREDIT CARDS THROUGH MY OWN PROCESSOR, it was advised NOT to put your home address down on websites because of all the predators on the web. If you accept credit cards through your own processor you must put your home and phone number down for legal purposes, BUT IF PAYPAL processes for you, you are not required to do this and in fact are discouraged to do this because of the predators. A email address should be sufficient to contact someone at any time.
I know there are some that put it down and many many more that do not.

But, ya know what..there are many that do not put it down that are just as wonderful people as the ones that do put it down. They just dont feel comfortable putting it out there.

I have admitted the things I wasnt truthful about right out and why I did it. I am not afraid to do this, but there are so many things stated here about me that just is nothing but misinformation and the names that have been associated with all this that are not involved in any way IS SHAMEFUL TO DO THIS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT IS THE TRUTH.

I CAN PROVE WHAT I HAVE STATED HERE ON ALL THE REBUTTALS OR AT LEAST THE REASON IT WAS SAID. I CAN PROVE EVERYTHING I EMAILED MY FORMER CUSTOMERS ABOUT THE DELAY IN THEIR ITEMS AND WHY . I have been accused of lying about my OWN DAUGHTERS ILLNESS, come on...I CAN PROVE MY DAUGHTER HAD TWO SURGERIES ON HER KIDNEYS, NUMEROUS TESTS COMING UP WITH NO REASON FOR HER ILLNESS, HER CANCER AND HYSTERECTOMY. HER SEVERE WEIGHT LOSS AND CONSTANT PAIN AND SUFFERING UNTIL FINALLY THEY GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. ALL THE DOCTOR APPTS AND AS I SAID, SHE HAD TWO TODDLERS UNDER THE AGE OF THREE. HER LIVE IN IS A DISABLED VET FROM IRAQ whom as I stated on the website had an eye injury that was requiring surgeries all during the same time, which created a huge problem for my daughter to care for all these people being so ill herself. SHE NEEDED LOTS OF HELP, he couldnt help her because he wasnt to lift or bend over even. SO, THIS I CAN PROVE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT...DONT BE PUTTING PEOPLES NAMES OUT THERE AND ACCUSING THEM OF BEING IN A THEFT RING...A SCAM...POSSIBLE TAX EVASION...AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF OR ASSOCIATED WITH BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO OWN PROPERTY I LIVE AT, you know that many people own homes and dont live in them? YEP, SURE DO. DONT PUT PEOPLES NAMES BECAUSE A MONEY ORDER MITE HAVE BEEN SHIPPED TO THEIR ADDRESS, again many people own homes and dont either live in them, or guess what? They have other people that mite live in the same home as they do? JUST LIKE COUSIN JULIE, she states above that she resides at her home which she throws the address out to when the guidelines say this is a NO NO. Do you know that Julie does not live at her home right now and hasnt for several months now. Yep, she is staying somewhere else. Now that doesnt mean someone else isnt living there right now, I dont know. She has children and siblings that could very well be staying there but Julie isnt. Her father passed away recently whom she provided daily care for and she just didnt want to stay there for awhile. But one thing is for sure, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WASNT ACCURATE AND DIDNT NEED TO BE DONE.

I hope I have everything I wanted to clarify done. There are so many things that have been stated in all these things that were not true and misrepresented . I guess what I didnt mention wont matter anyway. I JUST FEEL THAT WHEN YOU ARE ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT YOU SHOULDNT BE SO "CARELESS" ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE FACTS. IT CAN REALLY HURT SOMEONES REPUTATION that as I have proven tonite wasnt true. These people have been associated with theft rings, grand larceny, income tax evasion and etc. and dont even have a clue what you are talking about let alone be involved in it. HOW COMPLETELY SELFISH AND SELF CENTERED this has shown you to be when you just flippantly use peoples names and even their home addresses to try and get back at someone else. Another example. Another consumer comment the other nite saying they used the white pages to back look up addresses and names. You know that wasnt the correct names either and people just need to understand that people move, rent out homes, have other people that live in a home with them or even rent out rooms in their homes to college students. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT THROW PEOPLES NAMES OUT AND ACCUSE THEM OF THINGS WHEN THEY DONT FULLY KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE.

People, lets just please BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER PEOPLE.

In the bottom of this fake complaint because I know for a fact it is not from ottumwa iowa , they have used a fake email and phone etc. They state to remember the names of peck, white and bride as we are all involved in this scam?
THIS IS COMPLETE BOGUS FACTS. There is no WHITE OR BRIDE involved in any of this. IM AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE IN QUITE A BIT OF TROUBLE FOR PUTTING THESE PEOPLES NAMES AND ADDRESSES IN THIS SHAM OF A REPORT. I AM GOING TO MY LOCAL law enforcement agency in the morning to clear this matter up. I have lived here my whole life and am very comfortable with all down at the local sheriffs office. I have printed off all my orders, all my paypal records, I have all my shipping labels stubs and etc. I have no problem with this AS I WAS JUST GETTING READY to file my taxes AGAIN THIS YEAR with the IRS!!!!!
I also have tons of inventory that I didnt sell that can prove up I do have some inventory so this business was not a FRAUD, I actually did paint signs and get them ready. I just got ill and so did my daughter. The new owner has inventory as well. I SURE SPENT TONS OF MONEY on stencils and paints and etc. if I wasnt going to use them in a business what in the world would i purchase them for? As well as the fact not to mention my little grandson has been ill for the last couple months with seizures and possible brain tumor that , thank the lord he didnt have one, but has neurological problems causing these mini seizures and crossed eyes. This required numerous trips to the Iowa City Hospital in Iowa City for tests and glasses fittings and on and on and that is the son of my daughter that just had cancer, so I helped her out again. Who wouldnt help their family? I just dont understand. I meant to put the website on vacation mode or whatever they call it but frankly I was so frantic and frustrated with all happening I didnt get it done. I didnt know how to do it and just didnt take the time to figure it out. As I said, I contacted all whenever I would get back, explained the situation to them and asked them if they preferred a refund or wanted to wait on their items. Most wanted to wait on the items, it is true? So, after selling my supplies I didnt have the time to honor the back orders and that is why darling Kristeen was doing it for me. I know I could have handled things differently if I had taken the time to think it out better, but I was stressed to the brink and not to mention worried to death about my family. I have tried to correct the problems now and am almost done rectifying all the orders.
Also, Kristeen will be changing the website to the name she decides she wants to call it and etc. in the very near future, so ? I just dont know why all are on her so badly.The previous purchases were not on her watch, not her call at all and she is trying to honor them anyway because she wants to do this. Leave her alone and let her run this business as she wants too. If she doesnt want to change the name right now, basically because of time constraints because of work and orders, so be it.
I would say it is better for the customers who still are waiting to have the website up. If she changes it now, there will be a new email, web address and all, so what is the harm, it is only helping those that have not been contacted yet or seen the posting on the website that she is honoring the purchases?

This is completely bogus. NUmber one, this complaint did not originate in Ottumwa Iowa and I am in the process of letting rip off know this. I know for a fact you must give your correct info when filing a report and this is not correct. I feel This is from a woman in brockport NY who has harrassed me to no end and for no reason. She was totally refunded all her monie due her from paypal and as soon as I find out if I can list these copies of her refunds and the sales to her I will list these so everyone can see this woman is harrassing me. I owe her no money and she is completely dishonest in all her reports about me so far and I am about to prove this to all after I clear that I can in fact list copies of the refunds and etc. she was given. Number two, she still doenst have the names right, my names are right i have had three names due to my maiden name and two marraiges. Not that unusual in this day and age. But, the other names are bogus again. Yes, I did ask a customer to send a money order to the julie bride address because I knew it was ms ciciotti trying to find out my home address, So, trying to make me a liar on that one is a joke as well. NUmber three, the real reason the new owner has not listed her correct address is that I told her not too just because of this particular woman Ms. Ciciotti. I have felt threatened by this woman and her maniacal pursuit of me even after she has nothing to pursue, she was totally refunded her money. As you can see, she makes phone calls, contacts all on rip off if she can figure out who they are, contacts the advertising sites the new owner is on now trying to get her new business off the website, emails me and the new owner constantly and even now I and her are still getting emails form ms. ciciotti and if she rec'd all her refunds quite some time ago, why is she doing this? It is because I finally got angry at her and blocked her emails from my acct and then she opened another email and another email to get through again and again. I am contacting my local law enforcement agency and filing harassment charges against her and using the reports in this forum to show she just wont leave me alone. She has no furthur business with me, she was refunded every dime I ever owed her and therefore has no right to continue to harass me with these and emails and the new owner definetly has no previous dealings with her in anyway, yet she emailed her and asked her for her FEDERAL ID NUMBER. WHEN THE NEW OWNER WROTE HER BACK AND TOLD HER THAT WASNT REALLY ANYONES BUSINESS AND NEED NOT BE ANSWERED, ESPECIALLY TO SOMEONE SHE HAS NO BUSINESS WITH, SHE EMAILS THE NEW OWNER BACK AND ASKS HER,"WHY ARE YOU SO UPTIGHT????" SHE TELL HER THAT SHE ALLREADY HAD BEEN TOLD WHO SHE WAS AND WAS NOT GOIGN TO BE HARRASSED BY HER AND TO STOP ALL EMAILS TO HER, THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!! She has turned me in to the IRS SHE SAYS. This is fine, I filed my taxes last year and am getting ready to do it this year and she states above that I probably am going to be involved in TAX EVASION. HONESTLY, I dont know how lucrative she thinks this business is but with so many other websites selling what you sell and etc. and the ecomony the way it has been for quite some time, how much money does she really think I held back? I even probably shorted myself last year by not putting all my supplies down that I had coming to me as a business expense because I wanted no problems with the IRS, So, I dont see this being a problem in any way. I THOUGHT WHAT YOU PUT DOWN ON THESE FORUMS WERE TO BE FACTS THAT YOU ARE TOTALLY AWARE OF? NOT LIES!!!! That is why this forum is a joke. They wont take any of the reports off, but that alllows people to tell complete lies about you and you have no recourse. THEFT RING AND GRAND LARCENY? There is no theft ring. The only people that were on this website was ME!!! What theft ring? Because I asked a customer to send a money order to a different address than my own? Yes, I have a first cousin named JULIE BRIDE, she owns a home at 413 Madison AVe as stated. I asked the customer to send the money order there for my daughter to get for me, but you know what? THIS IS A CUSTOMER THAT MS CICIOTTA SET UP TO ORDER FROM ME AND THEN STATED THEY DIDNT FEEL GOOD SENDING PAYPAL WOULD I TAKE A MONEY ORDER AND I FELT THIS WAS A DIVERSION TO GET MY HOME ADDRESS, SO I GAVE THIS ADDRESS BECAUSE I FIGURED IT WAS MS CICIOTTI ,AND I FELT THREATENED BY HER AND DID NOT WANT TO GIVE HER MY REAL ADDRESS!! And also because my daughter and I am just going to put my daughters name down and end all this constant lies about names once and for all. My daughter name is KATHERINE . SHE HAD UTTERINE CANCER AND HAD A VAGINAL HYSTERECTOMY OVER IT AND I HAD TO HELP HER WITH HER TWO TODDLERS WHILE SHE WAS ILL. CALL OTTUMWA REGIONAL HEALTH CENTER IN OTTUMWA AND CHECK THIS OUT. YOU ARE SO GOOD AT GETTING INFO AND I BET U WILL FIND THIS IS THE TRUTH TOO. OH YEAH, SHE LOST OVER 20 POUNDS IN LESS THAN A MONTH AS WELL AND THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS TRULY WRONG FOR A COUPLE MONTHS, AND SHE HAD KIDNEY STONES IN BOTH HER KIDNEYS AT THE SAME TIME AND WE WENT THROUGH TWO SURGERIES FOR THIS AS WELL, WHEN THAT DIDNT SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND SHE WAS STILL ILL , THATS WHEN THEY FOUND THEY HAD TO DO THE HYSTERECTOMY. So, I asked the customer to send the money order somewhere else because I had not been at home. WOW...BIG CONSPIRACY THERE HUH? This is A JOKE!!!!! I have copies of so many refunds that I made to people when katherine was ill that there truly cannot be that many people out there yet that did not get one and if there was they were given the opportunity by the BIG HEART OF THE NEW OWNER To receive there products and she has been doing that. LEts just get that out in the open too, Her name is KRISTEEN and I wont bel like the others here and start spouting names that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MATTER, But are being accused of being involved in a theft ring???? I still feel that is a mistake because ya know some people dont take being smeared all over the internet with false accusations about them.
Heres another thing for ya all. I do owe a customer who bought wholesale from me. She spent around 263.00 and then another 23.00 for shipping. I refunded the shipping and I have refunded her another 40.00 off what I owed her and when I got paid this month was going to issue the balance to her and she is also someone that has been contacting people about me as well. But, I do owe her money and am attempting to give it back to her. I am not trying to lie about owing this woman a debt. I am sending money to her and she would have to admit that I am. But this ciciotti has rec'd all her money from me quite some time ago and even writes a statement here to that fact and has since continued to put more and more reports here over and over after she has been refunded, therefore I feel she is really over the top with this and is mis stating all kinds of facts and misrepresenting my business with her. She writes later on after saying she rec'd all the money I owed her that I STILL OWE HER MONEY IN OTHER REPORTS. Do you know WHY SHE SAYS I STILL OWE HER MONEY? Because after refunding her several purchases and her taking that money with no problems, she takes the last refund I give her which would square us up and be paid in full and returns the refund to me. DOES THAT SEEM LIKE SHE WANTS TO KEEP THIS MATTER GOING AND GOING AND GOING? That last refund paid her in full and she couldnt have that because then she would have no reason to harass me anymore. THEN SHE CALLS PAYPAL AND ASKS THEM TO CONTACT ME TO HAVE ME SEND IT BACK TO HER BECAUSE SHE DIDNT UNDERSTAND HOW TO HANDLE REFUNDS? SHE WAITS QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE DOING THIS THOUGH. REALLY, SHE HAD HANDLED THREE BEFORE THAT WITH NO PROBLEMS? ALL OF THEM WERE HANDLED PERFECT EXCEPT THE ONE THAT PAID HER IN FULL. I am soooo glad I have kept all her emails to me from the beginning, at least 70 emails total. I am using this all to prove my case against her. If she wants to persist in this matter, she wants to remember just what she has and is doing herself. I ASK HER IS IT REALLY WORTH IT ALL? YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY AND HAD IT QUITE SOME TIME AGO SO WHY ALL THE HARRASSMENT STILL?
Heres the real deal..I was gone because my daughter got ill. I sent many refunds back after I got home and tried to fill the rest. I had copd and noticed I got very ill every time I sanded and painted. I went to the lung doctor and he did a catscan. I have empheysema now and I was told not to work with the wood anymore. I tried to continue to fill the orders anyway and kept getting ill. I had to close the business. I sold my stencils and inventory, and I gave her the website because I told her it was no good to me anymore and it would save her some money just getting started, she could change the website to her own choosing when she got the money to do so. I had advertising and etc. that hadnt run out and told her to take advantage of it. She decided to help me out by trying to fulfill the orders I couldnt get done, WHICH I THINK IS ADMIRABLE. She posted on the website to contact her and tell her what you still had coming and she would try to honor it up to a certain amount. She cant be expected to fill the wholesale order. ALL THIS WAS ARRANGED AND still it isnt enough to please this lady whom isnt even owed anything? DOESNT ANYONE IN THIS WORLD EVER HAVE UNEXPECTED ILLNESS'S SUCH AS MY DAUGHTERS AND MYSELF? DOES EVERYONE ALWAYS DO EVERYTHING ON PURPOSE? DO WE ALL SOMETIMES THINK WE CAN DO MORE THAN WE PHYSICALLY CAN SOMETIMES? Now It is a theft ring , all me I guess, oh yeah my cousin julie whom I asked someone to mail a money order too and my daughters name which isnt correct AGAIN!!!! WE ARE A THEFT RING NOW? HUM, The only one I know of that would qualify for that is the wholesale customer and I am paying her on my debt to her which constitutes a willingness to try and fulfill my obligation to her, albeit mite be slower than it should be, but I am attempting to do this and will be paid in full in just a short week or so. I just dont understand this at all and where this is all coming from. If you will look almost all these reports have been Ms Ciciotti from brockport NY, Deb did file one and another customer whom since has contacted the new owner and is getting her sign shipped out to her, so that was fulfilled as well.
Another thing I am quite confused about. ISNT THIS JUST SUPPOSED TO BE LISTED AS A INTERNET BUSINESS? I HAD NO PHYSICAL STORE AND THE NEW OWNER DOESNT AS WELL, SO WERENT YOU JUST TO PUT INTERNET AND NOT PUT ALL THESE ADDRESSES DOWN SINCE THEY ARE NOT THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF A STORE? See, I just dont understand how this stuff can go on when it is inaccurate. There are so many inaccuracies in all these reports it is terrible. If they wont remove these isnt this just fodder for lawsuits for false information? LIke my cousin JULIE BRIDE, she isnt involved in a theft ring or grand larceny? SO WHY IS IT OKAY TO PLASTER HER NAME AS INVOLVED IN A THEFT RING AND GRAND LARCENY WHEN IT IS COMPLETE LIES? I WOULD THINK SHE COULD SUE SOMEONE FOR THIS BLATANT DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER OF HER? WELL TRULY EVEN SUGGESTING I AM INVOLVED IN A "THEFT RING" AND IMPLYING THAT I AM INVOLVED IN "INCOME TAX EVASION" IS NOT TRUE AND DEFAMATION OF MY CHARACTER AS WELL? I am truly happy to report though that almost all of my customers have been wonderful to me during this time and waited on their items or their refund so that I could get back on my feet and honor them and what is left are the ones that are being taken care of now. So, most people are decent and understanding of how life can get sometimes. Very very few of them have done this to me because I did honor their purchases either by a refund or a sign and they were willing to wait. I know when someone buys an item , they spend their hard earned money on it and want what they paid for. After contacting most of them and explaining they were willing to wait for their item or asked for a refund and were granted one.
I am checking into the matter about posting the actual refunds I gave this woman and her actual orders from me so once and for all, people can honestly see that sometimes what you hear isnt always what it appears to be and can be misconstrued and sometimes just plain not true!!!