Brad Thomas - Commercialleads.net Ripoff promises made on Commercial Loan Modification leads. Internet

I contacted this company and spoke with Brad Thomas on purchasing Commercial Loan Modification leads for my Commercial Loan Modification business. I was told that they had numerous leads that came in weekly and that there was only a few people actually buying these leads so I would have a pick of the leads coming in.  I transferred $1,725.00 (if you wired the money, they gave you 10 more leads than if you charged your credit card, I see why now) because "they  get charged" more for accepting a credit card. See email below: from Brad Thomas   <bthomas@commercialleads.net> to TD C date Sat, Aug 22, 2009   subject RE: Commercialleads.net - Leads mailed-by commercialleads.net Dear T.D.,  It was a pleasure speaking with you and thank you for your business. I have included a brief power point presentation to give you an overview of the training should you elect to use it. Below please find your adjusted invoice for $1,725.00 / 48 Exclusive Commercial Mod Leads by wire transfer. Please complete the wire noon /1pm your time tomorrow 8/6/2009 to secure the discount. Once youve completed the transaction please send me a quick email confirmation so I can forward to our finance manager and get your account activated.   Respectfully, Brad Thomas Senior Account Representative 3948 Third Street South Jacksonville Beach, Fl 32250 Tel: 888.677.1451 Fax: 800.446.7380 bthomas@commercialleads.net   http://www.commercialleads.net  ====================================================================== I immediately started calling on these leads and after several times of leaving messages and emailing these leads, I saw that I wasn't getting any responses at all. These are supposed to be fresh leads and having not a one of these leads respond was not right. I sent a note to Brad Thomas after 2 weeks of trying to get at least one of these leads to respond.  to Brad Thomas <bthomas@commercialleads.net> e Thursday , Aug 27, 2009   subject Re: Commercialleads.net - Leads mailed-by gmail.com   Brad, FYI: I have gotten some leads and so far, no one has returned any of my calls. I have emailed and left messages all week with no success. If I don't have anymore success in the next week, I will be asking for a refund. It seems like these guys would be clamoring for help. there seems to be no sense of urgency with any one of these leads.  Regards, TDC ============================================================= He went off on some tangent on how I should do some scam hiding my phone # to try to reach them. See his response below: o TD C  date Sat, Sept. 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM subject RE: Commercialleads.net - Leads mailed-by commercialleads.net Non returned calls are covered by the return policy however you should not leave messages nor send emails until the first contact which should not be attempted without using *67 when dialing. Remember they were probably shopping elsewhere and don't know who is who when the CID pops up. We don't issue refunds based on this issue however If you adjust strategy it will go much better moving forward. ======================================================================= Adjust my strategy? My strategy was to contact their leads and offer my service!  My response was: Sept. 5, 2009       to Brad Thomas <bthomas@commercialleads.net> date Sat,  subject RE: Commercialleads.net - Leads mailed-by gmail.com Brad, adjusting my strategy isnt an option if they never answer their phone and they are asking for modification, theres nothing else i can do. If they are real leads they should be responding in some fashion. You said you had modification leads. It seems like there are more refinancing leads than anything.  Regards TDC ================================================================ Then he went and tried to say to me again that they had some high rate of success. He said these leads NEEDED to be told that they need Loan Modification.... Sept. 5, 2009 o businessloanmodification@gmail.com date Sat,  subject RE: Commercialleads.net - Leads mailed-by commercialleads.net That is an incorrect assumption. The strategy is devised for exactly that reason. Refinance, Bridge, Hard Money, Short Term, Interim, Mezz, Cash Flow deal requests are exactly the people that need modification. They are not aware that it is possible until they are told. We are seeing a 92% renewal rate on this program already but the strategy is key. Brad ============================================================= I have been trying to contact all the leads I have bought from tis company and have never been able to reach one lead. I cant get a response from the company. I am waiting for Brad Thomas to respond for a refund. I have been completely ripped off by this company. It is a total scam.  I should have known once they said they wouldn't refund my money I was going to get ripped off. It's almost like they put fake names on the website and not worry about any repercussions from customers.