CARLOS MARTINEZ - RALPH CURRRY Deadbeat Dads - Miami Florida District Attorney's Office HEARTLESS, CRUEL, MEAN, SADISTIC DEADBEAT DADS THAT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILDREN ripoff Miami Florida

I live in South Florida and am having similar issues with my child's father, his name is Tony Marte.  He has a criminal past, ignores his daughter for years at a time, hasn't paid child support in over 7 years which has totaled to over $50K and when its convenient for him, he'll show up and demand to see our daughter.  He's even taking me to court right now for visitation but still refuses to pay child support.

My daughter will be 12 now, that money can go to her college fund!

I'm wondering:  does anyone know of any advocacy group or group of attorneys which is concerned with making deadbeat dads pay child support? 

Maybe if enough of us get together for the same cause, our children will be better off for it.

Although it is painful to admit, you are absolutely correct about Carlos. He is a skipper. Like I mentioned in my earlier post: he is either living in Texas, Puerto Rico or Miami, Florida--perhaps even somewhere else.

My kids also refer to me as "Dad" or "Daddy," something that makes me prouder than words can express. I am honored that they love and trust me so much. Which is another reason I am fighting such a fierce, uphill battle for them.

As far as adoption, I have been given various advice on this topic, including the idea that--at least in California--gaining custody is the single most important thing I can do my my children.

To the best of my knowledge, filing for custody will cost about $25 per child, after which each may begin receiving benefits through my Social Security disability, as I am totally and permanently disabled.

That alone may negate the need for child support from their bio dads.

Thank you for sharing your own thoughts in this matter with me and please feel free to contact me via email. It really does help to know there are other fellows out there who've gone through similar circumstances.

God bless!

You posted that Carlos moved to Texas to evade possible warrants for child support. This is very typical of "Skippers" who are deabeat dads. These men are basically irresponsible, have few if any ties to keep them in one place for long and will "skip" at the first sign of trouble.

He is probably working under the table. He could very easily work as a day laborer for cash, especially in Texas or Florida. These jobs are readily available in agriculture or construction.

As I said before, you probably will not see a dime. At the very least you will have the satisfaction that Carlos will never be able to own property in his own name, get a tax refund, or do anything other than short term dead end jobs for his life. He will live below or near the poverty line unless he also turns to crime. Even a job at a fast food restaurant would require entry into the new hire database and subject him to being located and the child support enforced.

My experience is similar. I met my wife at 21, she was 19 with two children. Both from different fathers, both had never paid a dime of support or tried to see the children. After we were married for a few years I asked my wife if I could adopt the children. Both children, now grown with families of their own, are well aware of the situation and the adoption. They have NEVER referred to anyone as Dad but me, which makes me proud beyond description. They know well they could seek out their birth fathers but have not done so. In my heart and mind they will always be MY children, I am certain you feel the same about yours.

When my wife and I discussed this last night, I began thinking about the fact that--even though we exist well below the national standard of poverty--we may never see a dime out of either of these scumbuckets. Millions of deadbeat dads (and moms) simply do not and will not pay up.

I must, however, make a correction regarding one of the deadbeat dads I mentioned: Carlos Martinez. My wife rightfully corrected me stating that, to the best of her knowledge, Carlos is not presently incarcerated--nor has he ever been. In addition, she has no knowledge of any outstanding warrants for his arrest.

I made a mistake and admit to it with apologies to Carlos and his current family.

I cannot, however, in good conscience, retract anything further regarding either Carlos or Ralph unless my wife brings such mistakes or misgivings to my attention.

These two clowns are immature, irresponsible, disgusting, and hateful; if they grew a pair and stepped up to the plate, acted like real men instead of little boys, helped care for their own children, and at least attempted to make a loving effort to participate in their lives, I would be the first to shake their hands and thank them.

But, given the fact that Ralph threatened the lives of my wife and son...and given the fact that Carlos has had nothing to do with his two children since they were toddlers...I doubt such a miracle will ever happen.

The saddest part of all?

The kids are the victims, here. Not me. Not my wife. The kids. They are the ones I am fighting for and shall continue to fight for until every bit of strength has left my being.

Thank you again for your advice and, to all those out there reading this with children of your own who also have deadbeat moms and/or dads--my prayers and hopes are with you.

God bless.

I worked in California child support collections for years. They have the same access to any information Florida is able to obtain. Child support offices utilize Federal employment databases to track down employment on non custodial parents. Employers are required by law to enter personal information on all new hires into this database. If the individuals are incarcerated the office also has access to all national and state databases that list current inmates.

As for California paying support for these children if the NCP is incarcerated they will only do so through AFDC (welfare) and will attempt to recover the funds paid through this program when the NCP is released. Additionally, all income in the household is taken into consideration to determine if you will qualify for AFDC, even if the NCP is not located or paying support. You may not qualify under income guidelines.

You are correct, these "men" are scum. If not incarcerated, as career criminals it is not likely they are seeking out gainful employment or working legally. They are either working under the table or conducting illegal activities to support themselves. It is not likely the children will ever see a dime of support.

Thank you very much for your response.

According to the laws of the state of California, if we track them down and they are in jail (and provide our local D.A.'s office with their information, i.e. Social Security numbers), the state of California will provide child support payments as a result of their incarceration.

In California, at least, that is the law.

Once they are released, however, they will be forced to make child support payments monthly and pay back the Golden State for the back child support California will pay us initially.

Again, thank you so much for sharing your concerns and thoughtful insights with me and my family.

Right now we can use all the help we can get!

If you find them, and they are in fact in jail, how would you retain any money from them at that time?

If they are working, you can find them by doing a background check on them. Contact an attorney's office and ask them how much it would cost to do a basic background check on them. It only cost me 25.00 when I did it. Don't let the attorney's office try to take your case, or any other non sense. Just tell them you want a background check and that's it. You will need their ssn to process this report.

This report will give you all the information you will need of their current criminal record, to include traffic tickets, current addresses, and next of kin.

I would not advise you to use any online services that claim they can "track down dead beat dad's" they usually are non productive with results. It is wiser to go via an attorney. There are also private investigators that do simular searches, especially once you know where to begin your search. City, State, Neighborhood. They can verify employment, and other such things.

As for the burrocratic bs. They don't care, you are just another upset citizen, who is "out for revenge" in their eyes, and they won't be of any help. They are a waste of our tax dollars, and your time.

I hope some of the information I provided can help you. Stay strong, don't let people try to "care about your case" because in fact all they care about is your money. (ie. attorneys)

Best of luck! Keep us updated...