Central Florida Regional Hospital Unfair hospital billing for the uninsured Ripoff Sanford Florida

The hospital billed the insurance company (Blue cross) $52,000. I was only in the hospital 4 days! Blue cross payed the hospital around $22,000.

Sandi
C, Oregon
U.S.A.

''Healthcare' is a perfectly acceptable form of the word. I too work in the healthcare industry, and it is used daily. Microsoft Word also recognizes that format.'

Not really! The test of whether the spelling of a 'compound' word is right or wrong depends on what the major dictionaries say about the word. Microsoft Word does not contain a major dictionary! It only took me about 10 minutes to discover that 'Healthcare' is NOT the preferred spelling for health care. In addition, as YOU are using the word, it should be hyphenated as in Health-care because it is used as a 'modifier'.

Just say the word, and I will immediately provide you with all of the references you neglected to look up, and 'walk' you through how it is done.

Better than that, try to do your own research 'before you blast others with minor nitpicks' again.

You misspelled nitpicks. It needs to be hyphenated!

Just like Wawa and Stacey, with your vast 'knowledge' of Health care, you provided absolutely nothing to the Author!

Pot(Sandi) meet the Kettles('Wawa' and 'Stacy')

Stacey
Dallas, Texas
U.S.A.

'Since you cannot post your own name here seems to me that you have something to hide or you just like playing games'

Guess! Space filler. You left off a period.

'I do not have to prove my intellect to you or anyone else - Healthcare is what my company uses behind their first name (or used to use) Now it is Healthsystems'

You have already proved your intellect! Read YOUR OWN posts. You left off a period again. I am glad your company wised up and dropped 'Healthcare'.

'I read post after post where you tear down comment made'

That sentence is illiterate. Try it again. You substituted a dash for a period.

' - My suggestion
Get a job'

Guess. You substituted a dash for a period again.

'- You are almost catching up to Charles from Phenix City with your worthless posts'

Stacey, you are almost catching up to Charles from Phenix City with your worthless posts. Like him, you have said nothing useful whatsoever to the author, other than trying to make him look silly, and in the process made yourself look like an bonehead.

Attacks on an author happen when posters have nothing else to say!

As to the others - thanks
Stacey (i sign my REAL NAME)

Sure you sign your 'REAL NAME'. You substituted a dash for a comma this time.

If you need examples of relevant posts that do not attack authors check out the following:

J.G.Shruged

Edgeman

Robert
Irvine, California
U.S.A.

Try to learn how to post from them!

And anyone with any intelligence working in health care KNOWS that. Keeping Cobra insurance and paying the premiums is not always an option for a family. My individual health insurance is nearly $300.00 a month and that's with a $5,000.00 deductible. If I had to add a spouse or children to my policy, I could not afford it. I always shop procedures if I haven't met my deductible. Unfortunately, there are emergencies and that isn't always an option for many people. Any "hospital" who refuses to work with the uninsured when they are attempting to pay a bill is pathetic. Anyone with any intelligence working in health care would also KNOW that there are many families who do not have health insurance because of the cost.

And to the poster that said "apartment dwellers and renters" don't pay for Medicaid (or Medicare), someone correct me if I am in error -- I just pulled my real estate taxes for this year and it doesn't say a thing about Medicaid or Medicare. My PAYROLL checks do. It has nothing to do with owning property.

Since you cannot post your own name here seems to me that you have something to hide or you just like playing games
I do not have to prove my intellect to you or anyone else - Healthcare is what my company uses behind their first name (or used to use) Now it is Healthsystems
I read post after post where you tear down comment made - My suggestion
Get a job - You are almost catching up to Charles from Phenix City with your worthless posts
As to the others - thanks
Stacey (i sign my REAL NAME)

Since you cannot post your own name here seems to me that you have something to hide or you just like playing games
I do not have to prove my intellect to you or anyone else - Healthcare is what my company uses behind their first name (or used to use) Now it is Healthsystems
I read post after post where you tear down comment made - My suggestion
Get a job - You are almost catching up to Charles from Phenix City with your worthless posts
As to the others - thanks
Stacey (i sign my REAL NAME)

Since you cannot post your own name here seems to me that you have something to hide or you just like playing games
I do not have to prove my intellect to you or anyone else - Healthcare is what my company uses behind their first name (or used to use) Now it is Healthsystems
I read post after post where you tear down comment made - My suggestion
Get a job - You are almost catching up to Charles from Phenix City with your worthless posts
As to the others - thanks
Stacey (i sign my REAL NAME)

Andromeda,

You have posted a worthless post.

"Healthcare" is a perfectly acceptable form of the word. I too work in the healthcare industry, and it is used daily. Microsoft Word also recognizes that format.

I'd suggest you research things before you blast others with minor nitpicks.

Years ago went to one of those drug stores to get a script filled for my wife. They ask if I have her insurance card. IF I have her ins card, her co-pay will be $20 and the total price of the med will be $35 with her insurance company picking up the other $15. I tell then no and ask how much it's gonna be if I just pay cash. They tell me $22. I tell them to fill the script. I'm not gonna make a second trip for 2 frickin' dollars.

Was listening to a show the other night where they suggested you bargain with several docs and several hospitals on prices BEFORE you have a procedure done. Years ago when I got picked up by EMS, they sent me a bill for $250. I asked 'em where they came up with that price. They told me that since ONLY one out of five people actually pay for their run, they let the one who DOES pay, pay for the four who don't. Now an EMS run is $450 to $500. It's interesting that you bring up the "poor" class. THEY don't pay ANYTHING.

THEY could care less what the bills are cause someone else, the "middle" class mostly, is fronting the bill. I'm paying a couple a hundred dollars PER MONTH in local hospital tax for the "poor" to go to a hospital I've never set foot into cause I'm covered. But I do like your other idea.

Stacey
Dallas, Texas
U.S.A.
I work for a healthcare agency

'So you have no insurance then I suggest next time you need medical attention go to a county hospital which is payed for by homeowners taxes.'

How do you know there is one near where lives? Prove it! You misspelled Health care, and left off a period! !

'My company is for profit because - We have to pay the doctors, the er staff, the office staff, the off site staff, the taxes, the lawyers, the vendors, the nurses and on and on - you think that healthcare is free?? get real'

Where did the Author say he wanted health care free? I can't find it. You misspelled Health care, and left off a period!

Your company has nothing to do with what happened here. Besides you are 'President' of your own company('My company is for profit because....'), not the one the Author is complaining about.

'You want free healthcare?? I know CPT code and how billing and coding work
You should thank your lucky stars you do not live in a third world country where healthcare is a luxury'

Where did the Author say he wanted health care free? I can't find it. Where did the Author ask you if you know CPT code and what kind of work you do? I can't find it. You misspelled Health care, and left off a period!

'You want Medicaid - guess what!!! that is also payed by taxpayers not apartment dwellers or renters'

Where did the Author say he wanted Medicaid? I can't find it. You left off a period!

'as for the last poster - stop trolling the reports pointing out every little stupid detail you thinks is useless - try trolling for some idiots'

I don't need to troll. I just found an idiot named Stacey('try trolling for some idiots').
You misspelled 'think'. You left off a period

From your post, you are definitely not intelligent enough to work in health care. My advice is that you take some remedial English Grammar courses before you post again or apply to another company for employment. If you don't, It will hurt your chances of being hired anywhere!

Show us line by line why my post to Wawa was wrong. Prove it! I will show you where you goof up. Do the same thing for the post I just replied to from you.

Do It Now! I dare you! Prove to us that you really do have a 'brain'.

So you have no insurance then I suggest next time you need medical attention go to a county hospital which is payed for by homeowners taxes
My company is for profit because - We have to pay the doctors, the er staff, the office staff, the off site staff, the taxes, the lawyers, the vendors, the nurses and on and on - you think that healthcare is free?? get real
You want free healthcare?? I know CPT code and how billing and coding work
You should thank your lucky stars you do not live in a third world country where healthcare is a luxury
You want Medicaid - guess what!!! that is also payed by taxpayers not apartment dwellers or renters
as for the last poster - stop trolling the reports pointing out every little stupid detail you thinks is useless - try trolling for some idiots

So you have no insurance then I suggest next time you need medical attention go to a county hospital which is payed for by homeowners taxes
My company is for profit because - We have to pay the doctors, the er staff, the office staff, the off site staff, the taxes, the lawyers, the vendors, the nurses and on and on - you think that healthcare is free?? get real
You want free healthcare?? I know CPT code and how billing and coding work
You should thank your lucky stars you do not live in a third world country where healthcare is a luxury
You want Medicaid - guess what!!! that is also payed by taxpayers not apartment dwellers or renters
as for the last poster - stop trolling the reports pointing out every little stupid detail you thinks is useless - try trolling for some idiots

So you have no insurance then I suggest next time you need medical attention go to a county hospital which is payed for by homeowners taxes
My company is for profit because - We have to pay the doctors, the er staff, the office staff, the off site staff, the taxes, the lawyers, the vendors, the nurses and on and on - you think that healthcare is free?? get real
You want free healthcare?? I know CPT code and how billing and coding work
You should thank your lucky stars you do not live in a third world country where healthcare is a luxury
You want Medicaid - guess what!!! that is also payed by taxpayers not apartment dwellers or renters
as for the last poster - stop trolling the reports pointing out every little stupid detail you thinks is useless - try trolling for some idiots

So you have no insurance then I suggest next time you need medical attention go to a county hospital which is payed for by homeowners taxes
My company is for profit because - We have to pay the doctors, the er staff, the office staff, the off site staff, the taxes, the lawyers, the vendors, the nurses and on and on - you think that healthcare is free?? get real
You want free healthcare?? I know CPT code and how billing and coding work
You should thank your lucky stars you do not live in a third world country where healthcare is a luxury
You want Medicaid - guess what!!! that is also payed by taxpayers not apartment dwellers or renters
as for the last poster - stop trolling the reports pointing out every little stupid detail you thinks is useless - try trolling for some idiots

Wawa
SANFORD, Florida
U.S.A.

'You could have continued your insurance for 18 months through Cobra after your husband was 'laid off' or if you are employed you could have provided insurance yourself. Either of these would have been a wise and responsible choice.'

How did the Author turn into a female? How does he 'continue' his insurance, or get his own insurance if he has none and can't get any insurance?

'I would imagine that if you child had a serious illness and the actions of this hospital had failed to find it, you would have run to the offices of Morgan Colling and Gilbert, screaming that the lax Doctors had failed to properly treat your child. The treatment you child received could have been over done but when such a large portion of the populace is armed and ready to sue if someone caused them to stump their toe, all medical caregivers have to be over cautious. Do you actually think that these people did not have the best interest of your child at heart? Or would you prefer that they half way diagnose her and possibly send her home while really sick?'

You're guessing! Prove the Author would do what you said he would do. You can't can you?

Congratulations Wawa. You just made a useless and irrelevant post!

You could have continued your insurance for 18 months through Cobra after your husband was "laid off" or if you are employed you could have provided insurance yourself. Either of these would have been a wise and responsible choice. To try to lay the blame for this bill at the hands of the medical care providers is typical of a lot of people now. I would imagine that if you child had a serious illness and the actions of this hospital had failed to find it, you would have run to the offices of Morgan Colling and Gilbert, screaming that the lax Doctors had failed to properly treat your child. The treatment you child received could have been over done but when such a large portion of the populace is armed and ready to sue if someone caused them to stump their toe, all medical caregivers have to be over cautious. Do you actually think that these people did not have the best interest of your child at heart? Or would you prefer that they half way diagnose her and possibly send her home while really sick?

Dear Sir, I appreciate your response however I must tell you that my numbers are not bogus. I am probably one of the few people ever that demanded an itemized bill with CPT ICD9 codes I then ran the codes the numbers that were produced are exactly to the penny the dollar amount insurance companies will pay for that procedure. I realize it's hard to believe but it is in fact.

Medical insurance plans do have 'negoiated deals' with doctors and hospitals.

My medical insurance plan can get a 30% to 50% overall hospital bill reduction depending solely on how each specific charge is adjusted.

Years ago (1969 -ish) you could safely be self-insured, but not anymore.

National healthcare is not a garanteed cure-all. Look at what we do have now.

England has national healthcare and many Brits have told me stories of extended waits for NHS treatments, but if they simply agreed to 'pay private' they would be treated right away.

Your situation is why I accepted an offer I could not refuse many years ago. Freelance work was liberating, but the prospect of being where you are now made me reconsider corporate america.

Medical insurance plans do have 'negoiated deals' with doctors and hospitals.

My medical insurance plan can get a 30% to 50% overall hospital bill reduction depending solely on how each specific charge is adjusted.

Years ago (1969 -ish) you could safely be self-insured, but not anymore.

National healthcare is not a garanteed cure-all. Look at what we do have now.

England has national healthcare and many Brits have told me stories of extended waits for NHS treatments, but if they simply agreed to 'pay private' they would be treated right away.

Your situation is why I accepted an offer I could not refuse many years ago. Freelance work was liberating, but the prospect of being where you are now made me reconsider corporate america.

Medical insurance plans do have 'negoiated deals' with doctors and hospitals.

My medical insurance plan can get a 30% to 50% overall hospital bill reduction depending solely on how each specific charge is adjusted.

Years ago (1969 -ish) you could safely be self-insured, but not anymore.

National healthcare is not a garanteed cure-all. Look at what we do have now.

England has national healthcare and many Brits have told me stories of extended waits for NHS treatments, but if they simply agreed to 'pay private' they would be treated right away.

Your situation is why I accepted an offer I could not refuse many years ago. Freelance work was liberating, but the prospect of being where you are now made me reconsider corporate america.

Medical insurance plans do have 'negoiated deals' with doctors and hospitals.

My medical insurance plan can get a 30% to 50% overall hospital bill reduction depending solely on how each specific charge is adjusted.

Years ago (1969 -ish) you could safely be self-insured, but not anymore.

National healthcare is not a garanteed cure-all. Look at what we do have now.

England has national healthcare and many Brits have told me stories of extended waits for NHS treatments, but if they simply agreed to 'pay private' they would be treated right away.

Your situation is why I accepted an offer I could not refuse many years ago. Freelance work was liberating, but the prospect of being where you are now made me reconsider corporate america.