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Complaint Review: Cydcor - St. Louis Missouri

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  • Cydcor 734 Westport Plaza Ste. 270 St. Louis, Missouri U.S.A.

Cydcor Deceptive, False hope, With holding Information, ripoff! Nationwide

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Stephanie, do you feel you walked away having learned more about yourself or less

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I am writing to inform everyone that has had any ties to Cydcor exactly what it is about. I recently left Cydcor, after a seven month employment, and I have learned every technique or method of deception they have. Please note that things in quotes are the terminology they use, much of it will be familiar to you.

It begins with the interviewing. They use the same "Four Factors of Impulse" (Jones Effect, Indifference, Fear of Loss, Sense of Urgency) to entice the recruit as they do in "The Field" to lure innocent business owners into the sale. Upon impulsing a recruit to start with no benefits, no expense reimbursement, and working on straight commissions, you are trained. You are trained by your "Leader", usually another innocent person who honestly believes they will succeed in "The Four Phases"(Distributor, Leader, Assistant Management, and Management) as well. When your training is concluded, you go out on your own.

When you are out on your own, you travel to a given location, and you pitch your product, whether it is Quill, AT&T, BFI Waste(I have worked on all three), SBC, Talk America, UPS, Credit Card Processing, Web Design, or any other of the "Campaigns" that they have. You are responsible for your gas, car maint., food, and any other expenses you may accrue. They use pre-emptive strikes in dealing with these issues. They use various "Theories" to make you believe that this happens to everyone, and don't lose sight of the big picture.

I personally witnessed myself, my manager, and my co-workers work themselves into debt, always hoping for the day to come when they would receive that six figure paycheck. Personally, I had other financial resources to support me while in the field, but most do not. Unfortunately, I witnessed people fall $10,000, even $20,000 in debt, and still believe there was light at the end of the tunnel. You may say why do they do it, but you are truely brainwashed from day one to have faith in "The System". Ultimately, I saw two very intelligent, talented men make it through the field, and even then fail.

I was not only a decent salesperson, I was also very good at the management aspect. I took on many responsibilities far and above my call of duty, or my paycheck. As a matter of fact, in the seven months I was employed there, I never received a paycheck over $500. Having been taught that it was my fault for not using "The 4,5', and 8's", (Four Factors Of Impulse, Five Steps to a Conversation, and Eight Great Work Habits)I always went on another day, despite what my family and other co-workers said.

In the office, or "Atmosphere", there is no negativity allowed, and as a leader, you have to constantly be in the company of new recruits so that they cannot communicate doubts they may have in addition to physically walking them to their car for the same purpose.

There are also Vice Presidents, who do make rediculous amounts of money, but these people are few and far between, and understand that they began in the business at a completely different time. A time when there wasn't an office in every major city, and it was easy to grow and expand.

By the way, nearly every office uses the same methods to recruit, popular employment websites. Search in any major city for Marketing, Advertising, or Public Relations, and you will see
***SPORTSMINDED PEOPLE WANTED********
***ENTRY LEVEL MARKETING REPS*******

These are without a doubt, Cydcor offices. If you are going on an interview any time soo, put the managers on the spot, ask them about some of the points I have made, and watch them squirm, and avoid answering the question directly.

FYI: Everyday every office takes out on average 3 "Day of O(bservation)". 3x5Days Of the week = 15. 15x52 Weeks in the Year=780 Days Of Observation per year. An average office will promote 2 Managers per year. Odds are 780:2 that you will not succeed. Clearly, it is a numbers game.

Finally, all of the accusations of other complaints about the interviews, cold calling, and other aspects are true. This was just to give you a bit of insight to the practices they use, and I regretfully admit, I fell prey to Cydcor. Don't make the same mistake.
JUICE

Stephanie
St. Louis, Montana
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Stephanie, do you feel you walked away having learned more about yourself or less

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 08, 2004

Hi Stephanie,

You may know who this is. I am one of the former presidents of the company you refered to.

Looking back, I probably could not agree with you more. Although I advanced quickly through the company things really never changed except for the fact that, not only was lyed to, I was starting to lie to others.

Cydcor and its empire of small, indiviudally incorporated businesses who are run by young, entrapenueal men and women like ourselves was, and still is today, run for those at the top of the pyrmid.

Even as an "owner" I made no more than the guys going out into the field every day doing sales. I just had a title. And the real truth was that it was just smoke and mirrors. I had nothing except my ability to convince people that the opportunity to work with me was not only an option, it was their only option!

But I know now why I was there and why it worked.

I was 22, had brown, spiked up hair, wore a suite and owned my own company. I imagine that was very attractive to young kids coming out of school.

All and all I am glad I had the experience and I hope that you are too. If you were smart enough not to lose to much of your integrity, self esteem and money than you know what? You came out way ahead!

The one good that they do teach, which I believe is sound, is how to lead and how to deal with people effectivly. Those principals, if correct, are universal. And that is what life is really about.

Let me know if this is the Stephanie that was under Jill.

All My Best

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