Complaint Review: Deer Valley Watersports - Phoenix Arizona
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- Deer Valley Watersports 22444 North 19th Ave Phoenix, Arizona United States of America
- Phone: 6234342155
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- Category: Boat Brokers
Deer Valley Watersports Bad Business Practices Phoenix, Arizona
*Consumer Comment: Please.....
*Consumer Comment: Contact the Phoenix Police Dept
*Author of original report: Deal with Deer valley Watersports
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: PAID IN FULL
*General Comment: Do not give them a good business grade. This business will take you to the cleaners and never look back.
*Author of original report: Important update on Deer Valley Watersports
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The reason I am posting this complaint is to let you know of the bad business practices of Deer Valley Watersports, Ryan Martin and Kenny his sales person.
Before posting this complaint I sent them a copy of this complaint and asked them to take the necessaries actions to avoid this matter to go public. As they did not answer me I posted the complaint on ripoffreport.com.
Deer Valley Watersports (located at 22444 North 19th Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85027) trade in my old boat bayliner and promised me to give me a pay-off check of $10,000.00. As there was this economy crisis and Deer Valley Watersports had no more credit line they asked me if I would accept monthly payment of no less than $1,000.00 and the balance when the boat would be sold. Kindly, I did a notarized promissory note that they signed. All was fine till I found about the sale of my old boat. I contacted Ryan Martin (The broker of Deer Valley Watersports) and I asked him about my balance check. So, he gave me a check of $4,133.75 on August 13, 2009 for the balance of the pay-off of my old boat. He asked me to wait to be sure he had enough money on his account and I waited. When he told me to run the check at the bank I did so.
This check was returned twice with insufficient fund on August 21. We (me and my wife) contacted Ryan and he told us that he would get us a cashier check. But we did not get anything. So, I went to see a lawyer that wrote him and asked him to send me a cashier check. After sometime he told us that he had also bad checks and could not pay me but he was still working on something to get my money.
So with the advises of the lawyer, I wrote a consumer fraud to the Attorney General. I wrote a complaint to the Better Business Bureau of Arizona. I also filed a civil suit that was served. I sent him a Notice letter after seeing the Maricopas County Attorneys Office Check Enforcement Program before I might be able to file also complaint with this bureau. Today I am waiting the required legal time before I can go on( I have already sent the default jugdgementnotice and then I will do a writ of garnishment). I am trying by all means to get my money back because I need to pay my loan back on my old boat that was sold by Deer Valley Watersports.
I want also to say that after seeing the Fish and Game department my old boat can be repossess at any time by my bank (lien holder). So may be the new owners will read this complaint and they will contact Deer Valley Watersports to try to also solve this matter. I do not want them to be depossessed of the boat, they are not responsible for this issue. But if this matter is not solved it might happen. So sooner I get the money, sooner I can pay off my loan and my bank will not take any actions. My old boat is a Bayliner boat cuddy cabin 2001 (Hull ID BIYB23CNJ001) and the trailer is an Escort BT (Vin# 405120DA71). I have all the original document and legal document with me if you ever need them. Thank you for letting me posts my complaint.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/21/2009 01:37 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/deer-valley-watersports/phoenix-arizona-85027/deer-valley-watersports-bad-business-practices-phoenix-arizona-512842. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content
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#6 Consumer Comment
Please.....
AUTHOR: Lucky13 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 07, 2010
Spare us the lies, Ryan! You know all too well, that a MAJORITY of your customers have been scammed by you in some way, shape or form! If all your customers are paid in full, then why is it that the Attorney General's office has 10+ cases against you with claims from people who never got paid??? Another lie out of the mouth of Ryan Keith Martin!
#5 Consumer Comment
Contact the Phoenix Police Dept
AUTHOR: Lucky13 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 07, 2010
It seems Ryan Martin has made a career for himself in selling boats & then keeping the funds for himself. He's a criminal!!!!! DO NOT believe a word this guy says. He will lie to you without thinking twice about it and without missing one nights sleep. I recommend contacting the Phoenix Police Department and speak to Detective Raley @ 602.534.1739. Please tell him about your experience with Ryan, Kenny & Deer Valley Watersports.....they have an ongoing criminal investigation against them.
#4 Author of original report
Deal with Deer valley Watersports
AUTHOR: Michel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 15, 2010
Deer Valley Watersports was owing me $4,133.75. I did not take them to court or mediation. In fact we found a nice arrangement. As I needed paint and repair on my boat, I asked Ryan Martin to do the work and deduct it from my bill. He did a great job for a great price, and he did not try to charge me for the complete amount he owes me. From last I know he owes me around $1,400, and I am confident that he will pay me back what he owes or we will find another arrangement when times come. From this action I can say that he is honest and he is trying all he can do to stay afloat with his company.
#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company
PAID IN FULL
AUTHOR: DEER VALLEY WATERSPORTS - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 10, 2010
THIS CUSTOMER WAS AND HAS BEEN PAID IN FULL! I have asked mr Badder to please put a update in this matter and has not. I will give Mr. Badder 1 week to do so or like him I will publish his cell # for any customer to contact him directly! We have been in business for 11 years and have done so on the referrals of our customers. I nor Deer Valley Watersports has ever not paid a seller in full! Some times due to banks hold or things out of our control it will take longer then we would like to pay our sellers but, they have and always will be paid in full! Ryan Martin
#2 General Comment
Do not give them a good business grade. This business will take you to the cleaners and never look back.
AUTHOR: baybay - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 29, 2009
They have owed me $8550.00 for the past 6 weeks. They sold my rail (they say) but they have not given me the funds. I have ask for the car back and they will not tell me who/where the car is.
I have heard every story and have been lied to over the past 6 weeks. DO NOT believe a word they tell you in regard you receiving your funds.
There are several investigations going on with this company and (Ryan).
I tried to work with Ryan and all he did was lie to me. Everything from; It is the bank fault to my kid/wife has a doctor appointment and I cant get to the bank.
DONT BELIEVE A WORD THIS GUY TELLS YOU!!!
#1 Author of original report
Important update on Deer Valley Watersports
AUTHOR: Michel - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 03, 2009
Thank you to Ripoffreport.com Your web is very powerful. Deer Valley Watersports saw the complaint and contacted me straight away.
We had a long talk and it seems we are going to get an arrangement. They did write a check and it bounced because they had also a bad check of $8,700.00. They are trying to get their money back and have a writ of garnishment against the person that wrote the check. But they told me that they do not believe to get the money, and they will get the boat back that they will have to sell again.
At this time they do not have any way to pay me back, but they are proposing me monthly installments and paying the finance charges of my loan. They said they never intended not to pay me they just could not do it.
I proposed them to go to mediation for the civil suit and set up a plan to the mediator to have Deer Valley Watersports paying for my loan and finance charges till they can reimburse me in full. That was the agreement we settle down today and I believe that in this harsh economy they really have issues. Again thank you RIPOFF.REPORT and I will let you any of any updates on this case but at this time we have to get back Deer Valley Watersports in good business.
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