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Complaint Review: DirecTV - Internet

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Hello,
My name is Jeff **** and I am, unfortunately, a VERY unhappy former customer of DirecTV (account number 6312XXXX.) In fact, I am SO unhappy, I can't even fathom how you can keep claiming to be #1 in Customer Service, as every single customer service rep I spoke with in this debacle was rude, condescending, and frankly, a jerk.

I had been a loyal (10 years) Dish Network subscriber and was an early adopter of Satellite technology (remember Primestar? I was a customer there as well) so I'm not your average Satellite Service customer, but I'm not overly demanding either. I just want a fair price for the service I am promised, is that too much to ask?

Here is the short story:

I'll lay it out for you:

1. Your salespeople lied about what your equipment can do, what channels I would get, and how much the contract would cost.

2. Your installers break other providers equipment, sell people unnecessary upgrades to YOUR equipment, and kill people's trees because they can't read a compass.

3. Your customer service reps hate their jobs and your company and they take it all out on your poor customers, who only remain your customers because you lock them into a lengthy and expensive contract that ONLY THE CUSTOMER has to follow.

Here is the long story:

Apparently so.  Around October of 2011, I was shopping in the local Costco with my wife when I ran across a very flashy and exciting display by DirecTV about your service. I was impressed by the HD DVR with so many hours of recording capacity, and even more impressed by the fact you didn't charge me $250 to "lease" it, plus a monthly fee, something Dish has always done that made no sense to me.

I listened to the "special Costco Concierge Service plan" offered by your rep and he drew everything out on a whiteboard so I could see the different packages and channels available. We discussed the technology until he reached his knowledge limit (woefully short, but they always are) and then my wife got excited when he assured us that, unlike Dish Network, DirecTV's HD DVR was capable of recording four shows while watching a fifth, provided you had two HD DVR's with the WholeHome DVR service installed.

I was assured my bill would be around $45 per month for the first year, then jump to around $65 per month for the second, both still cheaper than what I was paying for Dish, and my wife, always the more frugal and intelligent of the two of us said, "Hey, before we sign that contract, take a picture of the whiteboard showing what he's promising us, you know, just in case." I should have listened. I didn't. I bought his sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. Another Snake Oil salesman wins the day.

So the problems began on day one with the installation of your service. Despite the fact that I have a 50 foot long south facing roof edge with several Dish Network, Primestar, and other Satellite project dishes installed on it, the installer assured me that the only place he could install my dish was on the front of my house, which faces west, using a fancy and expensive extra "Eaves Mount" for which I had to agree to an additional $99.00 fee (so much for the "free" installation, eh?).

Once I wrapped my head around the fact that the installer was not going to be willing to install on the south side where it belonged, he began his installation in a spot visible to the street and our master bedroom sliding glass door, as ugly as a trash can hanging from the side of my roof. I told him to move it further south so the trees would hide it and he insisted that were he to do that I would have to extensively trim one of my trees.

I got my compass out and checked his lineup and pointed out to him that he was off by more than 20 degrees of angle and that in fact the solution to the problem was to move the dish to the south edge of the roof but he wouldn't budge. Meanwhile his partner had cut and removed all cabling leading to my existing Dish Network dish, something I assure you DID NOT need to happen to install your equipment, so when I balked and told him, "just forget it, take it down, I'll go back to Dish" I was gleefully informed, "Dish is uninstalled, and you are under contract, so you will have to pay an early termination fee for that to happen."

I went back in the house to check my contract to see how it was possible that I could be under contract when a signal had not been received yet and found that the second worker had established a connection with your server's and begun the contract even before the dish was fully installed. I decided to just go with the program for now because Dish was now broken, and I trimmed my tree back to the point where it almost died over the next three weeks.

So the dish installer stated, "it's all good" and went inside to begin establishing the second signal on my second tv. After fiddling for thirty minutes and not being able to get a signal, the other installer came out and stated, "Dude, you're off on your point AGAIN!" which is what I had been telling him. Once they rotated the dish correctly you could clearly see that very little trimming of my tree would have been necessary, and they DEFINITELY could have put the dish on the south facing roof eave.

I went inside and called your customer service line on the special "Costco Concierge Service" line and was immediately greeted with a 30 minute hold time. After reaching a customer service rep and explaining that the installers had not done their job properly, I was unhappy with the service, and I wanted to cancel and go back to Dish I was told, "Sir, you're under contract. If you cancel at this time there will be a $450 early termination fee." I again explained that the service wasn't even turned on yet and how could I be charged a "termination fee" for a service I hadn't even used yet and she wouldn't budge and just kept repeating, "you're under contract sir."

She wouldn't let me speak to a manager, refused to answer any of my questions, and refused to transfer me to anyone who would. I hung up on her and told the installers, "Get that crap off my house and turn my Dish Network back on, they can sue me for the early termination fee." The installers laughed and began packing up. I demanded they remove the equipment and they told me, "We are installers, you'll have to call DirecTV for the removal guys, we only do installs."

I demanded they fix my Dish Network installation they had maliciously removed and they refused again, saying, "that equipment belongs to Dish Network. We aren't allowed to touch it." I asked him how he had been able to cut the cabling leading to it if he wasn't allowed to touch it and he stated, with a smirk, "oh, that was my mistake. I thought it was an old Comcast cable."

I called customer service six more times that day and the next, always received very rude and dismissive responses, refusals to assist me, and that ever-present threat of "you're under contract sir". Finally, having no more time to mess with it, I left for work for the weekend.

My wife called almost immediately to inform me that the Whole Home DVR service wasn't working and that she could only watch one and record one, not record two and watch one. More lies and false promises from your staff and salesman.

I gave up. I'm ashamed to say it, but I couldn't find a government entity responsible for making you guys comply with fair and appropriate customer service laws, so I gave up.

I called occasionally over the first year to complain about the broken Whole Home DVR service, and channels that would fade out and disappear or randomly move around. My wife complained constantly about the shifting channel order and that she would schedule a months worth of recordings only to have the channels shift and she would end up with a recording of something she didn't want.

At the end of the first year my bill jumped to $97.51 including an "Early renewal" for the NFL Sunday Ticket, which I had never ordered or received and didn't want.

I called the customer service people and found some more of your employees who obviously hate your company and their jobs or they would NEVER speak to people in that fashion.

After wasting another entire day on five different phone calls getting transferred all over heck and back, I finally reached an at least helpful, though bitchy employee, who explained that the NFL Sunday Ticket had been included in my initial contract and if I didn't want to renew it I could just cancel it and get THE REMAINING BALANCE BACK. I said, "but I never ordered it in the first place, haven't watched it, and the bill says "early renewal" so since it hasn't started yet anyway (Bill dated 08-02-2012) just cancel it and refund my money back.

Nothing doing. I cancelled my contract on the spot and told him, "you can sue me for the early termination fee."

I've since been sent to collections by your bean counters, and I REFUSE TO PAY. How on EARTH can you stay in business treating people in this fashion.

I just did a google search on "DirecTV Lied" and got 202,000 hits. I then did one on "DirecTV horrible customer service" and got 245,000 hits.

You get the picture right? You need to clean up your act and stop making your business profits off of people you've conned into signing up for services you can't or won't provide, and then taking money out of their pockets when they catch you lying.

I've already complained to the BBB, and I will continue telling others, just as over 500,000 more of your customers have done on sites like www.consumeraffairs.com, beingfrugal.net, www.bbb.org, and the Consumerist have done. And go ahead and sue your customers over early termination fees. It's probably the only way you'll be able to stay in business if this is how you really do it. 

I had originally thought mine was just a rare occurrence, but after doing some research, it is obvious to me that my experience is the norm, not the exception.

Jeff ****
Former customer guaranteed NEVER to come back who is being sued by your company for service they didn't ever satisfactorily provide.
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PS...after attempting to send this email to the president of DirecTV, Michael White, his email address bounced, no doubt after he changed it due to the massive number of complaints he was receiving.

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AUTHOR: christysmt - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, November 26, 2013

In reading what you went through with Dtv, I am appalled at the kind of people that you delt with.  I just recently left the company because of the birth of my son.  I can tell you that I wish that you would have talked to someone like me because I would have been of a lot more assistance.  

DirecTv was a good company to work for that treated their employees fair but the hardest part about it was talking to  people that would throw temper tantrums while you were trying to help them or people that would call you names and degrade you simply because they didn't have to see your face while saying it.  Despite all of this, I tried to help everyone the best I could assuming that they respected me.  

 I felt that as a company, DirecTv's contract for the customers wasn't unlike anyone else's.  Just like any other company that you go through there are cancellation fees if you don't fulfill the contract, so it shouldn't be a surprise if you get those fees along with an early cancellation.  However in your particular case, granted you had some physical proof of it, I believe that you could pursue a lawsuit and win.  I'm just making this assumption that based on the legal binding contract, DirecTv did not fulfill their part of the contract; I'm not a lawyer, just making an assumpion.

In saying all of that, I am surprised that you weren't granted a supervisor when you asked for one.  We are trained to try to assist you and if a supervisor is still needed, we must send you to one.  I am convinced that if you talked to someone like me, you wouldn't have felt as betrayed by this company.

One thing that I wish this company did differently was the on site technicians.  I'm not sure what  the issue is, but it wasn't a rarity to hear about an installer being rude, late, or pompous. 

So all in all, I agree with some things that you say and disagree with a few things as well. It's just unfortunate that you spoke with that many misrepresentations of the company.

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Satisfaction Received!! Thank You COSTCO!!!

AUTHOR: jeff - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, October 12, 2012

So, a lot has happened in just a little more than 24 hours, and I'm really surprised!!  Looks like the threat of a Ripoff Report and the Better Business Bureau complaint I filed caught DirecTV's attention right away!!

As you can see from my last update, I received a call from DirecTV almost immediately stating they "want to help you finalize your account in a positive way" but they weren't interested in honoring their contract, just wanted to fish for what I had in the way of evidence so they would know whether I would be able to prove my accusations or not.

After verifying with me that I had called "asking about cancellation" immediately upon installation, they claimed that the notes about the call didn't specify what ABOUT cancellation I had asked, but they were sure enough to deny me.

I had actually called at the time of installation DEMANDING about 9 times that they remove their equipment from my house and restore my old service provider, Dish Network. They refused, having already locked me into a contract, and insisted they would sue me if I touched their equipment. 

Anyway, thank GOD I purchased this system through Costco. I contacted them yesterday with the same complaint I filed here, and at DirecTV, but they actually listened!!

I received an email from the DirecTV VIP Support for Costco members:

"Hello Jeff, We have waived the Early Cancellation Fee, zeroed your DIRECTV account balance and removed your account from Collections status.  Had your situation come to our attention sooner, the outcome would have been much different we assure you. Best wishes, Daniel E. Chorney DIRECTV Inc. VIP Support for COSTCO Members"

It's absolute crap, of course, as I had brought this situation to their attention via direct complaint, and the BBB, and they DENIED both times. But Costco came through for me!!

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That was QUICK!! But worthless.....

AUTHOR: jeff - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Almost no sooner did I file this report than I got a call from the DirecTV Dispute Resolution Center from a very smooth and calm young man offering to talk to me about the issues in my email that I had also submitted to DirecTV (same as in this report.) Thinking I might actually get somewhere, I went over the letter with him in detail and felt like for the first time ever, someone was actually listening to me!! NOT!!

After about 30 minutes on the phone with me he told me that he had located the call I had made to customer service "talking about cancelling" on the day of installation while the installers were still in my house. Without listening to the audio from that call he told me that the "notes were sparse" so "we couldn't really tell if you asked to cancel your account or not."

I said, "the call notes indicate I called you AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATION asking about cancellation, but you for some reason don't feel that is clearly a request to cancel the account?"

He said, "right, and we will listen to the call to be sure, but you showed us by your actions, by staying with DirecTV for more than a year after that, that you really didn't WANT to cancel your account."

I explained again that after being bullied by the customer service reps and facing $450 in Early Termination Fees, what other choice did I have? He told me that I could/should have gone ahead and cancelled the account if "That was really what you wanted."  Realizing this was going nowhere I asked him why DirecTV does not have a cancellation period where if you are unhappy with the service you can cancel within a certain period of time.

Imagine my surprise when I learned that DirecTV actually has a 24 hour cancellation period during which you can cancel your account with no penalties. So I pointed out that my call at the time of installation clearly mentions cancelling my account, and he stated, "it sounds as if you asked about cancelling, but it doesn't indicate that you actually requested to cancel the account."

He then told me that DirecTV was not responsible for the problems I had with the lying salesman or the idiot installers because I had purchased my account through "Smart Circle International", who is an "Authorized Reseller" and had made all of the promises and screwed up the installation.

I pointed out to him that none of the paperwork I was provided had anything but DirecTV on it, and that all of the salespeople and installation personnel I had dealt with wore DirecTV shirts and no one ever identified themselves as working for anyone else.  He told me that was "not DirecTV's fault, but it does sound like Smart Circle International did a poor job representing us in this transaction. However, since you stayed with DirecTV and we made several attempts to resolve your issues whenever you called to complain about them, we feel we have met the terms of the contract satisfactorily and that your early termination fee is therefore valid."

Nice.  Blame someone else, pretend I didn't cancel like 9 times during that call on installation day, then pretend you actually provided me with good service "because you didn't cancel despite the fee".

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