Huggins' Huge Profit Systems, Millionaire Originator, Home Ownership Center, Mortgage Solutions, Trusted Advisor Training loan officer, loan originator Atlanta Georgia

Having survived the same ordeal, I can only confirm that Carolyn was right on the money with her complaint.
In my opinion the original complaint as filed here does do justice to magnitude of the deception perpetrated by Doug Huggins, Jimmy Vee, Travis Miller and Joel Bauer, on the many hundreds of people they have victimized.

Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer.... Inductees into the Consumer Hall of Shame!

It is also unbelievable how the perpetrators of this deception have so carefully and methodically attempted to refute all allegations against them by Smear Tactics, Ridicule and Denial. Sorry Carolyn, It's apparently OK for You to Get Ripped Off because you once made a mistake and got convicted of something!
Any body find it interesting that the Four Amigos have avoided a similar fate?
After Suffering through twelve months of the most inane and senseless regimen of task based marketing (TIME WASTING) ever conceived by man. I can honestly say that I Was Ripped Off Just like Carolyn!

Absolutely Nothing They Delivered Was like What They promised.INCLUDING THE GUARANTEE!
Promised materials were not even delivered during the entire period of this so called program.

A 100% Money Back Guarantee that is worthless as the paper this program was written on...BECAUSE!

At the sole discretion of the Four Amigo's your claim can and will be denied for any reason. For Example, in the FINE PRINT...If you don't host a radio show! YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND! If You Don't Open Your Own Mortgage Company YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND! Enough Said!

And in addition...This so called program is so designed that it is impossible to continue doing your existing job and finish the meaningless tasks and senseless concepts YOU ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE! But Wait...Task Based Marketing...What Happened To That Old Gravitational Marketing?
NOT ONE CENT OF EXTRA INCOME DURING A TWELVE MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
THOUSAND OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM
-And as far as Creating irresistible attraction to draw customers to you (Gravitation Marketing) this concept and the book were pitched to us and marketed to us on the T.M.O website and seminars. It didn't work either.

Da-- You Joel Bauer....You Delivered US Lambs to the Slaughter.

AND THE CLAUSE IN FINE PRINT THAT STATES THAT THEY CAN SUE US IF We COMPLAIN! SHOWING THEIR REAL INTENT! Now You Know WHY So Few People Have Actually Complained.

To Sum It All Up....Nobody I Have Talked Too Has Anything Good To Say About Doug Huggins, Jimmy Vee, Travis Miller, Joel Bauer Or This Worthless Program.

Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer.... Inductees into the Consumer Hall of Shame!

A Former Member Supports Carolyn!

Having never met Carolyn I can only confirm that she was right on the money with her complaint.
In my opinion the original complaint as filed here does do justice to magnitude of the deception perpetrated by Doug Huggins, Jimmy Vee, Travis Miller and Joel Bauer, on the many hundreds of people they have victimized.

Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer.... Inductees into the Consumer Hall of Shame!

It is also unbelievable how the perpetrators of this deception have so carefully and methodically attempted to refute all allegations against them by Smear Tactics, Ridicule and Denial. Sorry Carolyn, It's apparently OK for You to Get Ripped Off because you once made a mistake and got convicted of something!

Any body find it interesting that the Four Amigos have avoided prosecution?

After Suffering through twelve months of the most inane and senseless regimen of task based marketing (TIME WASTING) ever conceived by man. I can honestly say that I TOO HAVE BEEN Ripped Off!
This is not how the program was presented and sold.
Old out dated programs and incomplete materials
Magazines That Don't Even Exist....FRAUD?
Companies that No Longer Exist (basis for the 800# mail box) like the Home Ownership Center FSBO program.
-Project after project as I completed the program DOES NOT WORK, and the case of the 800 mail box MUST BE TOTALLY REDONE to even function.
-Promised materials were not even delivered during the entire period of this so called program.

-A 100% Money Back Guarantee that is worthless as the paper this program was written on...BECAUSE!

At the sole discretion of the Four Amigo's your claim can and will be denied for any reason. For Example, IN THE FINE PRINT...If you don't host a radio show! YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND! If You Don't Open Your Own Mortgage Company YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND! Enough Said!

And in addition...This so called program is so designed that it is impossible to continue doing your existing job and finish the meaningless tasks and senseless concepts YOU ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE! But Wait...Task Based Marketing...What Happened To That Old Gravitational Marketing?

NOT ONE CENT OF EXTRA INCOME DURING A TWELVE MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
THOUSAND OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM

-And as far as Creating irresistible attraction to draw customers to you (Gravitation Marketing) this concept and the book were pitched to us and marketed to us on the T.M.O website and seminars. It didn't work either.

Da-- You Joel Bauer....You Delivered US Lambs to the Slaughter.

AND THE CLAUSE IN FINE PRINT THAT STATES THAT THEY CAN SUE US IF We COMPLAIN! SHOWING THEIR REAL INTENT! Now You Know WHY So Few People Have Actually Complained.

To Sum It All Up....As Another Millionaire Originator Most Succinctly Said...This Was An $18,000 Photo Shoot Where I Got To Pay The Photographer and Pay To Get The Pic's Developed.

Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer.... Inductees into the Consumer Hall of Shame!

Having never met C.J. I can only Tell You that she was right on the money with her complaint.
In my opinion The original complaint as filed here does do justice to magnitude of the deception perpetrated by Doug Huggins, Jimmy Vee, Travis Miller and Joel Bauer, on the many hundreds of people they have victimized.

It is also unbelievable how the perpetrators of this deception have so carefully and methodically attempted to refute all allegations against them by Smear Tactics, Ridicule and Denial. Sorry C.J. It's apparently OK for You can get Ripped Off Because you once made a mistake and got convicted of something!

After suffering through twelve months of the most inane and senseless regimen of task based marketing (TIME WASTING) ever conceived by man. I can honestly say that I HAVE BEEN Ripped Off!

-Nothing is as they said it would be

-Old out dated programs and incomplete materials

-Magazines RePrints of Magazines That Don't Even Exist....FRAUD?

-Companies that No Longer Exist (basis for the 800# mail box) like the Home Ownership Center.

-Project after project as I completed the program DOES NOT WORK, and the case of the 800 mail box MUST BE TOTALLY REDONE to even function.

-Promised materials were not even delivered during the entire period of the this so called program.
-A 100% Money Back Guarantee that is worthless as the paper this program
was written on...BECAUSE! At the sole discretion of the Four Amigo's your claim can and will be denied for any reason. For Example. in the FINE PRINT...If you don't host a radio show! YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND! And in addition...This so called program is so designed that it is impossible to continue doing your existing job and finish the meaningless tasks and senseless concepts YOU ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE! Wait...Task Based Marketing...What Happened To That Old Gravitational Marketing?
NOT ONE CENT OF EXTRA INCOME DURING A TWELVE MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
THOUSAND OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM
-And as far as Creating irresistable attrraction to draw customers to you (Gravitation Marketing) this concept and the book were pitched to us and marketed to us on the T.M.O website and seminars. It didn't work either.

Da-- You Joel Bauer....You Delivered US Lambs to the Slaughter.

AND THE CLAUSE IN FINE PRINT THAT STATES THAT THEY CAN SUE US IF THEY COMPLAIN! SHOWING THEIR REAL INTENT! Now You Know Why So Few People Have Actually Complained.

To Sum It All Up....As Another Millionaire Originator Most Succinctly Pointed Out...I Paid over $18,000 for the directions to a Photo Shoot Where I Got To Pay Extra For The Photographer and Pay To Get The Pic's Developed.

Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer....Another Inductee into the Consumer Hall of Shame!

B.P

The original complaint as filed here does not do justice to magnitude of the deception perpetrated by Doug Huggins, Jimmy Vee, Travis Miller and Joel Bauer, on the hundreds if not thousands of people they have victimized.
It is also unbelievable how the perpetrators of this deception have so carefully and methodically attempted to refute all allegations against them by Smear Tactics, Ridicule and Denial.
After Suffering through twelve months of the most inane and senseless regimen and of task based marketing (TIME WASTING) ever conceived by man. I can honestly say that I HAVE BEEN SCREWED!
-Nothing is as they said it would be!
-Old out dated programs.
-Incomplete materials
-Magazines That Don't Even Exist....FRAUD?
-Companies that No Longer Exist like the Home Ownership Center.
-Project after project as I completed the program DOES NOT WORK, and the case of the 800 mail box MUST BE TOTALLY REDONE to even function.
-Promised materials were not even delivered during the entire period of the
The program.
and...a 100% Money Back Guarantee that is worthless as the paper this program
was written on...BECAUSE! If you don't host a radio show! YOU CAN'T GET A REFUND!
And more....This so called program is so designed that it is impossible to continue doing your existing job and finish the meaningless tasks and senseless concepts
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE!

So Much For Jimmy & Travis and There (Gravitational Marketing) Marketing Expertise....Bring Customers To Me! Not A Chance!

NOT ONE CENT OF EXTRA INCOME DURING A TWELVE MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.

THOUSAND OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM

D--n You Joel Bauer....You Delivered US Lambs to the Slaughter.

AND THE CLAUSE IN FINE PRINT THAT STATES THAT THEY CAN SUE US IF WE EVEN COMPLAIN! SHOWING THEIR REAL INTENT!

To Sum It All Up....As Another Millionaire Originator Most Succinctly Said...This Was An $18,000 Photo Shoot (RIP OFF) W/O Them Even Giving Us The Pictures Back Developed.
Doug Huggins, Travis Miller Jimmy Vee and Joel Bauer....First Inductees into the Consumer Hall of Shame!
B.P

I am familiar with Ms. C, as she contacted me about the possibility of filing a law suit against Mr. Huggins.

I was a member of The Millionaire Originator Inner Circle (TMOIC). It providing me with tools and a marketing education I highly value today.

Ms. C is like many others who signed up for TMOIC and did not follow instructions, then want to blame others for their lack of success. I know she was not following instructions because we were given specific instructions for how our emails were to appear and her's was not even close to the instructions given.

My personal story is that I had immediate results from 2 small techiniques given at the seminar. Doug Huggins, Joel Bauer, Jimmy Vee and Travis Miller continued to be supportive and responsive throughout my membership. My view of my experience is I received the equivalent of a marketing degree. This is especially great since the mortgage meltdown costy me my business.

The instructions for TMOIC members were explicit and all 4 "owners" basically pleaded for new members (and at subsequent meetings, all members) to simply follow instructions.

As my membership continued, Mr. Huggins asked me to help some struggling members. Not one of them were willing to put out the work required. One even to me he had never opened the packages and was using the initial package as a door stop.

My view: Ms. C made a rash decision about her business, then when she didn't want to work it, she went on a full-out campaign to ruin a good man in Doug Huggins. I see her accomplices, with their complaints, as whiners who want someone else to do the work and they'll just take the money.

If you are considering one of Doug's systems, I recommend them. Call his office before ordering, as TMOIC is no longer available, but Doug and his staff can guide you to which system to purchase first so this works for you-BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE WILLING TO DO THE WORK YOURSELF.

You can also check out other loan officer's complaints against Huggins on Broker Outpost.

ALL OF WHAT HE SAYS IS A LIE, except for the fact I do have a conviction. The denial of my license is being contested because the State had the incorrect dates - they were 4 months off. The conviction was for receiving social security benfits for my children 10 yrs. after social security later determined that I was not supposed to get them. My attorney and I were given incorrect information on their 800# in 1999.

So, all my skeletons are out of the closet. I have never knowingly ripped off any one Like Huggins has. It's too bad he has to stoop so low to bring up personal issues to discredit me - this had nothing at all to do with the mortgage business. Unlike Huggins, I have never had a complaint from any client, broker, lender, employer or state for being dishonest in my business because I am an honest woman with integrity.

Because of my stupidity in being duped into Huggins program, I used all of my savings, and I even ended up filing bankruptcy because the promised income did not come into me as the contract stated. And, yes, I like many others followed his program to the letter - but, it did NOT work at all. If his items are still on some website out there, it's because he has not taken my sites down. I am NOT currently using any of his ideas or advertising because they don't work.

I feel others should know about his illegal, unethical, fraudulent practices so they don't get caught up in his scam even if it has caused me personal damage to my name and reputation which it has. I am also a social worker, and I have always fought for the underdog even when I am not involved in a situation.

I was one of MANY that have cancelled his program and filed complaints against this man and his companies with the BBB, the state, etc. I have the names and address of at least 24-25 other people that they have been scammed also. I have a list of other people that had signed up for his program and have quit for all of the reasons originally listed here. I also have copies of several letters that these other people have had their attorney's write to Huggins about his fraudulent companies and practices.

You can also check out several other's complaints against Huggins

ALL OF WHAT HE SAYS IS A LIE, except for the fact I do have a conviction. The denial of my license is being contested because the State had the incorrect dates - they were 4 months off. The conviction was for receiving social security benfits for my children 10 yrs. after social security later determined that I was not supposed to get them. My attorney and I were given incorrect information on their 800# in 1999.

So, all my skeletons are out of the closet. I have never knowingly ripped off any one Like Huggins has. It's too bad he has to stoop so low to bring up personal issues to discredit me - this had nothing at all to do with the mortgage business. Unlike Huggins, I have never had a complaint from any client, broker, lender, employer or state for being dishonest in my business because I am an honest woman with integrity.

Because of my stupidity in being duped into Huggins program, I used all of my savings, and I even ended up filing bankruptcy because the promised income did not come into me as the contract stated. And, yes, I like many others followed his program to the letter - but, it did NOT work at all. If his items are still on some website out there, it's because he has not taken my sites down. I am NOT currently using any of his ideas or advertising because they don't work.

I feel others should know about his illegal, unethical, fraudulent practices so they don't get caught up in his scam even if it has caused me personal damage to my name and reputation which it has. I am also a social worker, and I have always fought for the underdog even when I am not involved in a situation.

I was one of MANY that have cancelled his program and filed complaints against this man and his companies with the BBB, the state, etc. I have the names and address of at least 24-25 other people that they have been scammed also. I have a list of other people that had signed up for his program and have quit for all of the reasons originally listed here. I also have copies of several letters that these other people have had their attorney's write to Huggins about his fraudulent companies and practices.

You can also check out several other's complaints against Huggins

ALL OF WHAT HE SAYS IS A LIE, except for the fact I do have a conviction. The denial of my license is being contested because the State had the incorrect dates - they were 4 months off. The conviction was for receiving social security benfits for my children 10 yrs. after social security later determined that I was not supposed to get them. My attorney and I were given incorrect information on their 800# in 1999.

So, all my skeletons are out of the closet. I have never knowingly ripped off any one Like Huggins has. It's too bad he has to stoop so low to bring up personal issues to discredit me - this had nothing at all to do with the mortgage business. Unlike Huggins, I have never had a complaint from any client, broker, lender, employer or state for being dishonest in my business because I am an honest woman with integrity.

Because of my stupidity in being duped into Huggins program, I used all of my savings, and I even ended up filing bankruptcy because the promised income did not come into me as the contract stated. And, yes, I like many others followed his program to the letter - but, it did NOT work at all. If his items are still on some website out there, it's because he has not taken my sites down. I am NOT currently using any of his ideas or advertising because they don't work.

I feel others should know about his illegal, unethical, fraudulent practices so they don't get caught up in his scam even if it has caused me personal damage to my name and reputation which it has. I am also a social worker, and I have always fought for the underdog even when I am not involved in a situation.

I was one of MANY that have cancelled his program and filed complaints against this man and his companies with the BBB, the state, etc. I have the names and address of at least 24-25 other people that they have been scammed also. I have a list of other people that had signed up for his program and have quit for all of the reasons originally listed here. I also have copies of several letters that these other people have had their attorney's write to Huggins about his fraudulent companies and practices.

You can also check out several other's complaints against Huggins

Frankly, I've had it with this lady! She's gone out of her way to try to ruin me, and the companies I own or am connected with, even though she only did business with one company. And her complaints are filled with lies and distortions and she know it.

Second, it is important to note that this lady is a three-times convicted felon. And while she complains about her experience with one of our businesses, she was denied a Mortgage License in the State of Washington because of her three-Federal Felon Convictions. To see proof of this fact go to:

dfi.wa.gov/CS%20Orders/C-07-166-07-SC01.pdf


Third, she states that the State of Georgia started an investigation against me and my companies. That is correct. However, what she fails to state is that she is the one who filed the complaint back on March 18, 2007 with the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs.

We discovered that she had done so by one of her postings to a couple of websites. I immediately contacted the Governor's office and wanted to know if it was true and what I had to do to respond. Ms Laurie Harris with the Governors Office stated that they would review Corthell's report and get back to me. On March 30, 2007 we received a letter from Ms. Harris requesting "your position on this matter." Not exactly a strong enditement.

We promptly answered the complaint with over 30 pages of hard, factual evidence; not the bogus allegations and lies told by Ms. Corthell. That was Nine Months Ago. We've received no response from the State of Georgia. No actions have been taken whatsoever. Despite the fact that her complaint was dismissed by the State of Georgia months ago, Carolyn cotinues to use the fact that State of Geogia requested info from us based on her complaint as an open enditement of me and my companies.

Although Ms. C had a business contract with only two of the companies she listed in her Rip-Off Report, she decided to go out of her way to maliciously malign any and all companies I and my family own or with which I have an association.

Ms. C signed a contract with The Millionaire Originator/Trusted Advisor Training, LLC. The billing was handled by The Home Ownership Center. The other companies she listed were not in any way shape or form involved. Huge Profit Systems and Mortgage Solutions, Inc. happen to own the copyright to some of the training materials provided to Ms. C. That's all.

The bottom line is this - our records clearly indicate that Ms. C did not follow our directions and did not actively participate in our coaching or actively use the materials we taught her. There are a couple of exceptions. On her current website one of the webpages and free reports are exact copies of our materials which she continues to use dispite the fact that she consistently slams me and the materials.

I have a simple question - If my materials are so bad and do not work, why does she continue to use them even after months after she was terminated from the training.

She complains that we provided no customer support. In the evidence provided to the State of Georgia we showed multiple emails, call reports and two certified letters sent to Ms Corthell over a two month period of time requesting that she contact our offices for help implementing out training. She never once contacted us asking for help.

The few contacts she had directly with our offices revolved around the fact that she had discovered a few typographical errors in some of the training manuals. Not errors that effected the value of the information mind you, just simple typos. Ms Corhtell became irritated with us when we refused her offer to proof-read our materials in exchange for several months of free training.


Ms C never, not once, requested to be released from her contract with our company. And on three seperate ocassions she has given three different dates on which she claims she cancelled her contract. Ms Corthell's contract with our company was terminated by us for non-payment on her part.

What we find most puzzeling is that Ms C is upset that we actually guarantee our members success, in writing, provided that member follows our instructions and implements. Ironically, her greatest complaint is that we guarantee ones success if only they take accurate action as we instruct.

Most of my companies that she has maligned are family owned companies that have been around for decades. None of these companies have ever been sued by a consumer. And I have never been convicted of anything greater than a traffic ticket. We certainly have not been convicted of multiple Federal felonies.

If she were a witness in a court case, her credibility would be completely shot and her testimony ignored.