Empress Shih Tzu Danielle Samuelson Cheated me out of $2500 Internet, Nebraska

Danielle "said" by email and I still have the email, that she would refund $1000 of Jiffys price because of all the genetic defects he threw, She was "supposed" to be drawing up a contract for me to sign and notarize and send back to her and her "promise" was she would then refund my money. Now she claims that I am slandering her which is a TOTAL down and out lie, and she refuses to do anything. I intend to take action.

Danielle and I have came to an agreement on what is fair for replacement of Jiffy, Once I have received the refund from her, I will make a public apology to her for this unfortunate situation.

If good ETHICAL breeders did not breed, where would families get their pets? BUT you are right it takes an ETHICAL breeder, one who doesn't breed just anything to make a buck.

Why don't the two of you stop making money off of forcing dogs to have babies for you to sell?  There are too many dogs already, millions get put to sleep every year, do you not know that?  Do you care?  If you truly love dogs, you wouldn't be perpetuating this business, making cash off the backs of these sentient creatures.  Maybe you can become a perpetual surrogate, see how you like it.

I would like to make a point about Luna. She too is a female that I purchased from Danielles group of friends. This makes 3 times I have been burned by this group. But this will be the last. While I do expect things to come up with any dog, as I know they are living things. what makes ALL the difference is how the breeder/seller handles the situation. How can anyone feel right about charging $2500 for a dog that threw this many genetic defects and not make it good. I know I could not. And to charge stud fees, is UNREAL, as I have so much money tied up with all the HUGE life threatening hernias I had to have repaired before I even thought about selling those puppies, not to mention, having to replace one with JRD AND the one still here that has JRD and all the vet bills I have incurred on her, not EVEN including all the heartaches of being so attached to her knowing her life will be shortened because of this.

Luna has been bred twice here and will not be bred again, She is being spayed after this litter is weaned and will be going to her new pet home, the end of Jan.

Please find the second half of my response that was removed from this page.  It contains information that is very pertinent to understanding this situation:

This particular disease is only produced from two parents that carry it.  Not only would this be caused from Jiffy, but also Luna.  Luna is Elondas female that produced the two puppies in question.  Elonda Womack has continued to breed Luna and currently has a litter for sale from her.  I have not bred Jiffy since getting him back from Elonda.  If Ms. Womack is truly concerned about the future well-being of puppies produced from the line, I believe that she would refrain from breeding her female that produced it.  I am not the first and I am quite positive that I will not be the last person that Elonda Womack tortures with her mental instability.  You can see her many ramblings on this very website.  Needless to say, there is a pattern that her behaviors follow.  I have no further comments regarding this unfortunate situation, but I will include the recent email conversation that I had Elonda Womack.  I have tried to piece them together so that they will make sense as Elonda was sending many emails for every response that I sent her.  You will find Elondas emails to me in red.  She continues to send harassing emails despite the fact that I refuse to respond. 

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:35 PM,(((Redacted)))> wrote:

Danielle do you think this girl would be big enough to breed? Also if she could be the replacement puppy? What lines does she carry

Thanks
Elonda

----- Original Message -----

From: (((Redacted)))

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:48 PM

Subject: Re: Regarding Mira

Hi Elonda,

The tip of her tongue sticks out a tiny bit.  I am going to place her in a pet home only.  I really prefer not to send you a dog just because I don't want the chance of any future complications.  I think it would be better if we settle on a dollar amount instead.  Not only did you get three litters out of Jiffy, but you also bred Luna again.  Which tells me that you know that not every mating is perfect, but that doesn't mean that the individual dog won't produce good results with another dog.  What happened with Luna and Jiffy is not something that either one of us could have predicted.  We live and learn, that is how we improve upon what we have.  Did you make money from each one of the litters that you had out of Jiffy?  I still think the best way to handle the situation is to treat them like stud services.  Please let me know what you honestly feel is fair.  I don't want this to cause any stress for either of us.  I want this handled peacefully and I would really like to come to an agreement together. 
Thank you,
Danielle

Luna the female that Danielle is referring to about me doing a repeat breeding. Was bred one more time to a male that tested out with Doggenes as a NON JRD carrier. I did that breeding after Danielle herself told me that I could do it and sell the puppies as pet only, if she was bred to a non carrier, since it takes both parents to actually produce puppies with the disease. BUT that is the last time Luna will be bred, she is already been placed in a loving pet home, once this litter is weaned. I DO NOT repeatedly breed genetic problems. 

Shame on you both for making a living off of puppies, GET A REAL JOB!  Both of you, there are so many dogs who need a home, in shelters and all you do is BREED dogs!

God forgive you

Whatever Danielle, I HAVE NOT caused any problems with any breeder that sold me what I pay for. I just bought a female from a VERY good breeder of whom you have at least one dog from, I think those folks could tell you after meeting me I am NOT a problem breeder. They sold me a fantastic puppy and I am quiet happy with her. Funny if Jiffy was so great, Why did YOU place him, I should have known you placed him because he was JUNK. $2500 for JUNK. The OTHER breeders you seem to be referring to, also sold me JUNK for high dollar and anyone that wants to read those reports can search Fairytail Shih Tzu (Calley Razzo and Susan Barto) these are the breeders Danielle is referring to, I tried to download pics of the crappy defective puppies (two of them) that those ladies sold me for high $ as well, but they would not download on this site. Keep TRYING to make yourself look good, truth is you are a lousy, lieing, cheating breeder that one day will get what is coming to you. I have told MANY my experience, in fact just told one last week, that has bought dogs from you recently, Now I think she may be worried. I will continue to do so. The fact is I will still be here, being honest with customers when you are LONG gone.

As much as I refuse to play into the games of Elonda Womack of Classy Paws Shih-Tzus in Indiana , I would like to provide a bit of information about her allegations.   I too gave Elonda Womack a second chance to purchase a dog from me.   The first time around was quite a crazy experience and she was very difficult to communicate with, so it was not too surprising that it did not go well.  
 
Knowing what I dealt with the first time that I sold her a dog, I still chose to give her a second chance.   So I allowed her to adopt an adult male named Jiffy and a puppy that she named Whisper.   She claims that I sold her a defective dog (Jiffy).   I would never deceitfully send a sick dog, or a dog that was producing genetic defects to another person.   I certainly would not send a dog to Elonda Womack that I thought she would not be happy with.  
 
I purchased Jiffy over the internet from another well-known breeder.   He produced four healthy litters for me before Elonda Womack adopted him from me.   After Elonda received Jiffy, she bred him to three of her females.   She claims that one of the litters resulted in puppies that had Juvenile Renal Dysplasia.   From the time that Elonda Womack claimed that Jiffy produced two puppies from one litter with JRD, I offered to work something out with her to make her happy.   I paid for Elonda to ship Jiffy back to me, and at that point we were still discussing what would be a fair replacement or cash refund, because Elonda produced three litters out of Jiffy while she had him in her care.   Elonda decided to take a puppy from a future litter, which at the time I was agreeable to.  
 
Recently, Elonda Womack has caused more problems with a couple of other breeders which made me very concerned about sending her another dog.   I decided to write to her and ask her to settle on a dollar amount instead of a puppy replacement.   Her response was unwarranted and very irrational.   She immediately began to abuse me with her profanity and hateful comments regarding myself and my family.  
 
To this date, I still have not received proof from a licensed Veterinarian that these puppies do in fact have JRD.   This particular disease is only produced from two parents that carry it.   Not only would this be caused from Jiffy, but also Luna.   Luna is Elondas female that produced the two puppies in question.   Elonda Womack has continued to breed Luna and currently has a litter for sale from her.   If Ms. Womack is truly concerned about the future well-being of puppies produced from the line, I believe that she would refrain from breeding her female that produced it.   I have not bred Jiffy since he was returned to me. 
 
I am not the first and I am quite positive that I will not be the last person that Elonda Womack tortures with her mental instability.   You can see her many ramblings on this very website.   Needless to say, there is a pattern that her behaviors follow.  
 
I have no further comments regarding this unfortunate situation, but I will include the recent email conversation that I had Elonda Womack.   I have tried to piece them together so that they will make sense, as Elonda was sending many emails for every response that I sent her.   You will find Elondas emails to me in red.   She continues to send harassing emails despite the fact that I refuse to respond.  
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:35 PM , PuppyFind.com <buyer@puppyfind.com> wrote:
Danielle do you think this girl would be big enough to breed? Also if she could be the replacement puppy? What lines does she carry Thanks Elonda
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Danielle Samuelson
To: tzulady@etczone.com
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Regarding Mira
 
Hi Elonda,
The tip of her tongue sticks out a tiny bit.  I am going to place her in a pet home only.  I really prefer not to send you a dog just because I don't want the chance of any future complications.  I think it would be better if we settle on a dollar amount instead.  Not only did you get three litters out of Jiffy, but you also bred Luna again.  Which tells me that you know that not every mating is perfect, but that doesn't mean that the individual dog won't produce good results with another dog.  What happened with Luna and Jiffy is not something that either one of us could have predicted.  We live and learn, that is how we improve upon what we have.  Did you make money from each one of the litters that you had out of Jiffy?  I still think the best way to handle the situation is to treat them like stud services.  Please let me know what you honestly feel is fair.  I don't want this to cause any stress for either of us.  I want this handled peacefully and I would really like to come to an agreement together.  Thank you, Danielle
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
No Danielle that is NOT what you agreed on and I saved your emails. I don't think you would "settle" on a dollar amout. Yes I bred Luna to Atom only because as you said Atom is not a carrier of JRD, BUT her puppies will still be placed in pet homes only.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:05 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
and ALL those puppies I sold from Jiffy, I may have to replace. I have already had to replace one and kept Natalie here, so how do you think that would be fair to me, if I have to go back and replace all his puppies??????
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:07 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
If they are sick you should know it by now. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
NOPE not going to work Danielle , OK $150 or $200 a litter for stud service and I want the rest refunded now.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
I never said that Atom is not a carrier of JRD, how would I know that for sure?  You told me that you were going to breed her to Whitey again.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
because Atom was tested and according to Dog Genes atom is not a carrier. YOu KNEW Jiffy was bad, just like you knew every dog you got rid of was bad.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
IF you did stud service  I will NOT agree on what you said you were charging for stud service on Jiffy and he threw all the crap that he threw. Danielle you KNOW this is not right.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:07 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
huh Luna has NEVER been bred to WHitey even once. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe it was Baloo, and you said you were going to put her with Whitey this time.  I don't remember, but I do know that I never commented on whether or not Atom had JRD or not.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
LOL, Danielle I don't even have a baloo anymore and have not had him for over a year. Where in the hell did this come from. Baloo was gone long before i even got Jiffy or Luna had babies that were defective and its so d**n funny that her puppies that she had with Baloo are fine, they have been in their home for almost 2 years and no problems. hhhhhhhhmmmmm
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
That is what you said before.  Baloo and Luna produced healthy babies and that you were going to breed her to Whitey this time because his babies have always been fine.  I remember that now.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
make this good Danielle or I will pursue it I am sick of the s**t that I have been dealt.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:12 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
you have NO clue what you are talking about and as USUAL you are trying to scew someone out of money. I should have known better than to ever trust you again, and I will make SURE this time, I prove to you , I will do what I say. I am sick of thiefs
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
send me back $2G or I am not accepting this. and I do have your emails where you promised me another dog.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
I mean it this time Danielle, I am not letting this one slide. I have emails saved from you where you told me you would replace Jiffy, now you are trying to get out of it. Send my money back now if thats what you intend to do
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Find a way to get me  2G this week because now that you have started this, I will pursue it.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
and what about all the d**n stress, and vet bills I have had to put out on that damned defective dog? Do you REALLY think I made that much money on those litters???
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:32 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't know how much money you made, that is why I asked you.  PLease enlighten me.  What did you sell each puppy for?  And we all have Vet bills, it goes along with breeding. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Not discussing this anymore, just send me the money.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Regardless, I hope you can sell your puppies without puppyfind because I am going to do EXACTLY what I did with Calley and report this to them and send proof, from the vet. I will write a review on you and you will not be able to remove it. Danielle I am not accepting this. It is not fair. You said in your email you would replace Jiffy and if you are not I want a hell of a lot more money back than you are going to agree on. I already know that.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:39 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sending you a dime until we come to an agreement.  You are not going to rant and rave and throw a childish fit and get your way.  It might have worked for you in the past, but I am not playing your game.  When you are ready to discuss this like an adult let me know.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:43 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
What do YOU think is fair, LET ME GUESS
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:41 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle this will be the last time I would ever trust you on anything. Please just send me my money and don't ever contact me again, you have given me enough stress for a lifetime, Ido not need it nor do I deserve it, I am far above all you idiots. I have found WONDERFUL dogs that carry lines that I have ALWAYS wanted but could not get rights to,  I am super happy with what I have and I do not need the stress of all the thiefs out there. In the end, God will take care of all those who think they have to cheat others for their own benefit.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:46 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Stress Elonda!  You are the definition of the word.  This is exactly why I don't want to send you another dog. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
then send me my fing money B.TCH
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:42 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Proof from the vet, what a concept.  I would like to see the 100% without a doubt proof from the vet that Jiffy produced JRD.  Lets start with that. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:44 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
We shall see, I Have done this twice with Calley and tommy Logan , and both times, I won
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Jiffy was a carrier and also all those HUGE MONSTER hernias that he produced, Ihave never had them here. I have the proof and i will show it
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Please send the documentation to me.  I have been asking for it from the beginning of all of this, and i have yet to receive anything.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
What do you think is fair Danielle? I want to know, so i can laugh my a*s off.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:51 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
You are so d**n funny. Where in the hell do you get off thinking it is legal to send someone defective anything and think you have to do nothing about it. Proof the proof is in the d**n defective dogs you have already been sent proof on. I asked you for your d**n address again so I can send you the info on Natalie. SEND IT!!!!
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:54 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
AGAIN its Christmas and POOR danielle has NO money to buy her children gifts so she wants to screw someone else so she can. Same thing that happened when I got that defective dog.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Elonda,
 
I did not say that I wouldn't do anything for you.  You are making that up in your head.  Your lack of professionalism is really showing and I refuse to deal with a person that is irrational.  I did not receive an email from you asking for my address.  If I had, I would have responded.  I will get the address for my Vet and you can send it to them.  PLease do not contact me again if you are going to continue to abuse me. 
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:01 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Who is abusing who? you promised me another dog as full credit for Jiffy, now you are refusing so WHO is getting abused.
 
You have not told me what you think is fair. I can tell you all day what I think is fair and you will not agree on it, I already know that.
 
Just send $1500 and end this now, how is that?
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Your mouth is horrible.  You say very hateful and rude things.  Then in another email you are proclaiming God.  Come on Elonda, you aren't fooling anyone but yourself.  I didn't realize that I was being abusive by asking you to agree on a dollar amount instead of a puppy replacement.  I thought maybe we could have a respectful and adult conversation.  I want to know why you would even want another dog from me if you are so convinced that I am a theif and only send out defective dogs. Do you see why I am a bit concerned to send you another dog? I just didn't want to have to deal with it again.  If you want a puppy replacement, then puppy replacment it is.  You will get your puppy (same sex and equal value) and there will be no guarantee offered.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle just send me $800 forget it and be done. I am sure you will say that is too much also. With people like you, it would make the pope say swear
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle I will be selling whisper as I want NOTHING of your lines in my breeding program BUT she will NOT be coming back to you.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:19 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, thank you for letting me know your decision.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
You know, you are so poor you are WAY below me just forget it. I will donate to the poor. LOL
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:25 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
send me $50 for Jiffys DNA, or will you screw me out of that also???????
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Merry Christmas!! I hope you can buy your poor little children something nice.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:31 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
I think I can proclaim God a LOT more than you can, when you had all the christian things on your site. At least I do not scew people out of money CONSTANTLY. Isn't that one of the ten commandments? They shalt not steal
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:36 PM , Danielle Samuelson <empresstzu@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think that it is considered stealing when people give you donations.  I will accept your donation and our business is completed.  Thank you so much!  I will let my children know! 
Merry Christmas!
Danielle
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:38 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
LOL, its for SURE a donation because I am writing him off on my taxes  ( :
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:39 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
I WILL be looking for the $50 for the DNA.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
And I am not the only one you have stollen from. So you need to live by the ten commandments LOL
 
I can wait to tell MANY people my dealings with you.
 
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:42 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
go breed some more of your "Unsocialized kennel dogs" Everyone I have talked to that has purchased form you say their poor puppies are crazy when they get them. Poor babies
 
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
I do hope you enjoy whats coming to you. (: You know I NEVER give up.
 
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:51 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
IF Jiffy gets bred again, I am reporting you to AKC and PETA also.
 
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:24 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle since I do have your email, on second thought after speaking with my husband, I am calling my attorney tomorrow. I want CASH for Jiffy and I am not waiting on you to get it here. You have to be stopped as i talked to someone else today that you have screwed. As long as we let this go, it will continue. You sold me a dog that did not meet expectations for a high $ and for that I will see what the lawyer says.
 
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
I am sending proof to AKC that Jiffy is throwing puppies with JRD.
 
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:27 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle when do you plan on sending the $50 for the DNA?
 
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM , Elonda Womack <tzulady@etczone.com> wrote:
Danielle I have contacted AKC about Jiffy. They advised me to write a letter and send it to case mgmt, they will red flag any litters on him and the inspector will have record. I am not finished with this., To charge someone a stud service on a dog that threw all the garbage he threw here, is just not acceptable. This dog needs to be neutered and placed in a pet home. I will not stop on this until I know he has been. NO ONE should have to go thru what I have went thru on this for what I paid for that dog.
 

As anyone can see from the pics of the HUGE hernias Jiffy threw. I to as a responsible breeder spent hundreds of dollars to have these repaired before I placed these pups in their pet homes. NO WAY would I ever send a puppy out with a hernia like that to anyone. Now how can Danielle say I made much on those litters?? The point is I paid $2500 for a male that I could consistently use in my breeding program, and I did not get near what I paid for. Any reputable breeder would stand behind what they sell.