• Report: #393701
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Firebird - Scentura Creations

  • Submitted: Fri, November 21, 2008
  • Updated: Fri, May 01, 2009

  • Reported By:ELMHURST Illinois
Firebird - Scentura Creations
909 South 83 Suite106 Elmhurst, Illinois U.S.A.

Firebird - Scentra Purfume - larry Hahn, scam brain washing, lie lie lie Elmhurst Illinois

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: At it again Rob?! Let's get some answers we're really looking for!

*UPDATE Employee: Taa Daah! Perception is reality!

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i've been reading about a man named larry hahn and how great his purfume co. is and recently i recieved a job at a co. called firebird which is a branch of larry hahns purfume co. but then i read that all these other co. with other names have been scams and they change there names of the co. just to keep the co. going. i sat in a 4.5 hour i2nd interview yesterday thank god i found out through the internet this is a scam.

all the facts that people are giving are true as stated because like i said i was there myself the same speeches they gave them are the same speeches i heard youll make alot of money they say and you dont get paid for training but they claim you will have cash in your pockets on the first day. the br. managers are rikki and rob, and i just read about another co "name" which was different at the time who also had a rikki and a rob so i say coincidence i think not what a scam i feel sorry for all the people who were there yesterday who got "hired" and are giving up good paying jobs, to work for free, cause really thats what they will be doing.

these people have children what kind of a co would take christmas away from a child cause thats how it seems like they are doing to me, and the rest of them poor people.(oh everyone who got hired starts in dec.) im glad i found out about this before i quit my job. they play loud music, talk very loud and use colorfull language, and have "bonus questions" to make the co seam very interesting, or is that just there way of keeping people from finding out the truth? i'm glad i only waisted two days of my time opn this co. what a waiste

ELMHURST, Illinois

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

At it again Rob?! Let's get some answers we're really looking for!

AUTHOR: Noah From Chicago - (U.S.A.)

Hello again Rob! We've had our back and forth and EVERY time you dance around the issues at hand to brag about how much money you make and others can make through your borderline criminal pyramid scheme tactics.

So for the 5th or 6th time, I implore you to give us some honesty!!!! Please answer the following questions. Failure to answer these questions truthfully will result in me posting more facts about Scentura and the next one will be a testimonial from a former owner of seven years. Soooo here it goes;

1. Why do you send people out to sell on the streets without sales permits? You know it's illegal but you send people out anyway! When they get a ticket or a court date do you help them?

2. Why do you hold contests for large cash prizes and fail to deliver? You know it's true, you tell people that the ones who sell the most during FFAAR will get a generous cash prize (in my case $750) and lie to them the next day saying the group as a whole didn't sell enough.

3. Why do you post ads for receptionists and office help when that's not what the job entails? And don't try to tell me that you only advertise for management because you know that's BS.

4. Why do you lie about how much people will make during training? You tell people they can make hundreds a week but they don't. I've read countless accounts from people who worked for a Scentura branch for months and took home well under $500. I even read accounts from owners that said the majority of what you make pays for the office and advertisements and you take home little to nothing in the end.

5. Why do you promise company vacations when you're really just making people sell in other towns? You know you make them pay for everything themselves and I'm sure you're familiar with the term room bottle.

6. Why do you call people such mindless, unprofessional and immature names like weak piece of s**t if they don't play into your deception?

7. If this isn't a scam as you two continue to claim. Why are there so many reports against this company? Also, why did the Better Business Bureau and an Illinois State ruling call Scentrua multi-level selling company? Don't try saying that Ford, McDonalds and Wal-Mart have complaints against them too! These companies are at least upfront about their job duties, they pay their employees a steady paycheck and they don't try selling to random people in parking lots without the proper permits.

8. How do you sleep at night? This is a question of conscious so don't go bragging about how expensive your house, bed or car are because it's all from dirty money no matter how you look at it. I really don't understand how you guys live with yourselves by taking advantage of so many young professionals that are just trying to get ahead.

Here's your chance to come clean so don't try saying I'm not being fair!
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Taa Daah! Perception is reality!

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

You would have sat through what amounts to a 3.5 hour interview process, where, as you would know, the business owners were very forthcoming about the pitfalls of the training process as well as the long term benefits to running a company that distributes the fragrance products. But, because people always take things out of context or manipulate things that are said, it can sway the information to sound distasteful. A person can "I Love You", but because of how it is said or manipulated it can be perceived in many different ways. Just the idea that there is a negative opinion of an individual who says she gave training 1-2 days would ordinarily be discounted. But , because it is R**OFFREP**T.com it must be a horrible business. Oh Please! Every money making business that operates on a nationwide basis has perceived negative propaganda about it out there. All the non money making business' that were out there are out of business. Who complains about what no longer exists? It's just perception and and don't be afraid to meet the owners and staff of a business for yourself. They don't ask for your money, the title to your car, your bank account info., or your children! They just want to expose you to a business that many others have followed through on and found much happiness and success through. The worst thing that happens is you aren't interested or they aren't interested in you! But, don't forget, the character in Green Eggs and Ham didn't like them at all! Till he tried them!!! Don't knock and soil what you voluntarily admit that you never even gave a committed, positive effort to. It takes away from the hard working, generous people who committed their efforts and time to you. Don't forget, while you were sitting in these meetings, the owners were putting their best efforts into explaining to you the opportunity. These are people who have worked through sickness, disappointments, abuse through the use of cowardly anonymous web postings, frustrations, and have still and always will remain excellent model business owners, tax paying citizens, community leaders, and continuous examples of sticking together, working through difficult times and taking dreams and turning them into achievable goals. See for your own eyes! Real examples are few and far between. Sometimes, the person who takes an interest in you and helps you change your life can be found in the most uncommon of circumstances! If not for you, do be it! Working at many places at many different types of work is not for everybody. We all ahve our interests and disinterests. And that is what it is! NOT A SCAM, A PERCEPTION. R & R
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