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Complaint Review: Five Star Pit Bulls Kennel - Internet

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THE TRUTH ABOUT AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS. REAL FACTS HURT.
 
WORKING GAME BRED DOGS
 
REAL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER WAS GAME BRED DOG FOR WORKING IN HUNTING, WEIGHT PULLING, AND PERSONAL PROTECTION DOG. THE BREED WAS NEVER OVER 60 LBS FOR MALES AND NEVER OVER 50 LBS FOR FEMALES. THE BREED WAS GREAT DOG TO BE LOYAL, LOVELY BREED. UNDERSTAND REAL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER HAVE TIGHT FACE AND TIGHT BODIES. THEY NEVER HAD DROP FACE AND BIG BULLY HEAD. MERLE WAS NEVER IN THE ORIGINAL WORKING AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER. ALSO COLOR BLUE.
 
WHEN YOU CROSS AND HORSE TO DONKEY YOU CHANGE THE ANIMAL ORIGINAL SET STANDARD. THIS ALSO GO FOR OTHER ANIMAL AND ALSO FOR DOGS AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIERS, ENGLISH STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIERS, ENGLISH BULL TERRIERS, AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS  AND NEW BREED  CALL AMERICAN BULLYS/BULLIES ARE ALL DIFFERENT TYPE OF DOGS. THE ORIGINAL BLOODLINES OF GAME BRED AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER ARE JEEP, REDBOY, TUTLERBUSTER, GAINES, CHINAMAN, NIGERINO, JOCKO, PLUMBERS ALLIGATOR, ELI, COLBY AND A LOT MORE.
 
RAZORS EDGE GOTTILINES, GRAYLINES, XL, XXL, XXXL, BLUELINES, RED RUM, MONSTER G LINES, REMYLINES, MARCUSLINES, JAGGERLINES, NORSELINES, KINGPINLINES AND A LOT MORE. THESE ARE GREAT AMERICAN BULLY/BULLIES BLOODLINES. NOBODY IS HATING BUT POSTING REAL FACTS. THE TAGGING OF UKC AND ADBA NEED TO STOP. AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIERS, ENGLISH STAFFORDSIRE BULL TERRIERS, AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS AND ENGLISH BULL TERRIERS ARE TO DIFFERENT BREEDS. WE NEED TO KEEP THEM LIKE THAT. THE LYING NEED TO STOP.
 
 
Sincerely
LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT
OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.
We are here to Registry,
Rescue All Molosser Bulldogs,
AmBulldogs, Bandogges,
Bandogs and Mastiffs. We Also Are
HumanRights and AnimalRight Association.
Office: 646-265-4757
Office: 347-688-6327
Office: 843-568-6646
Office: 516-282-4591

OREBA REGISTRY KENNEL CLUBS INC.
http://www.OREBARegistry.com

OREBA RESCUE NETWORK GROUP
http://www.OREBARescue.webs.com

REAl WORKING MOLOSSER DOG PAGE
http://www.RealOldeEnglishBulldogges.webs.com

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#5 Author of original report

THE TAGGING AND HANGING PAPER WORK NEED TO STOP. THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT.

AUTHOR: HatingLyingPeople - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, May 26, 2012

I suggest you go educate your self. Real facts here.Razors Edge, Gottiline , GrayLines, XL, XXL, XXXL, BlueLines, Red Rum and Monster G line, Remyline, Marcuslines are not APBTS,? PITS, PITBULLS that is fact. F*** any moron that fight dogs don't work them out in Weight pulling, Hunting, and Personal Protection. But people really need to understand the
truth. These Bloodlines are new and different type of breed. It is call American
Bully/Bullies.

American Staffordshire Terriers , American Pit Bull Terriers, American Bullys/Bullies, English Staffordshire Bull Terriers, English Bull Terriers are all different breeds understand that. Razors Edge, Gottiline, GrayLines, XL, XXL, XXXL, BlueLines, Red Rum and Monster G line, Remyline, Marcuslines, Jaggerlines, Norselines, Kingpinlline and lot more are not APBTS,
PITS, PIT BULLS that is fact. Real APBTS, PITS, PIT BULLS are not Blue body and Blue nose.?

BLUE IS FALSE THE ORIGINAL BREED SET STANDARD. THAT IS FACT. YOU PEOPLE HATE THE TRUTH. AMSTAFFS ARE NOT APBTS. THAT IS ORIGINAL COLOR COME FROM. REAL APBTS ARE NOT CONFORMATION SHOW DOGS. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. REAL
APBTS, PIT BULLS, PITS ARE REAL AGGRESSIVE TO ANIMALS. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THIS. WHEN YOU KEEP? CROSSING BULLDOGS AND MASTIFFS THAT DOGS ARE NOT REAL
AGGRESSIVE TO ANIMALS. YOU CHANGE THE BREED ORIGINAL HISTORY OF THE ORIGINAL
BREED.

REAL APBTS, PIT BULLS, PITS ARE REAL AGGRESSIVE TO ANIMALS. PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS. REAL APBTS, PIT BULLS,? PITS ARE NOT FOR EVERYBODY. THAT IS WHY THE AMSTAFFS WAS CROSS TO BE NON AGGRESSIVE TO ANIMALS.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT BREEDS. YOU NEED TO EDUCATED YOUR SELF. I KNOW TO MUCH. BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG LONG TIME.

Razors Edge, Gottiline , GrayLines, XL, XXL, XXXL, BlueLines, Red Rum and Monster G line, Remyline, Marcuslines, Jaggerlines, Norselines, Kingpinlline and lot more are not APBTS, PITS, PIT BULLS that is fact. Real APBTS, PIT BULLS, PITS are not Lay back dogs. Real APBTS, PIT BULLS, PITS Don't have hanging Bulldogs lips and jaws. You need to understand this. Real APBTS, PIT BULLS,? PITS are not Blue or Merle in color. It is false in the
breed. You mad because The truth hurts.

The Truth Hurts that is why name calling is starting with you. I understand. Most of you dumbass americans love to lie just to make money. But the truth need to be told. Don't get mad because Real facts are in the world. Stop tagging and hanging paper work with these American Bullys Bloodlines. Like Razors Edge, Gottiline , GrayLines, XL, XXL, XXXL, BlueLines, Red Rum and Monster G line, Remyline, Marcuslines, Jaggerlines, Norselines, Kingpinlline and lot more, Real Facts are in your face.? 

WE BROUGHT THIS BUSINESS FROM MR KWAME WINSTON BACK IN 2006. THESE PEOPLE ARE KNOWN LIARS. THIS MAN DON'T LIKE THE TRUTH. HE DON'T HAVE REAL APBTS. THAT IS FACT.

Sincerely

LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT
OLD RED ENGLISH
BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.
We are Dog Registry, Dog Rescue of
All Molosser Bulldogs, AmBulldogs, Bandogges, Bulldogges, Bandogs and Mastiffs.

We are Also Human Rights, Animal Control and Animal Rights Association.
Office: 646-265-4757
Office: 718-570-7106
Office: 843-568-6646
Office: 516-282-4591
Fax : 888-469-5071
OREBA REGISTRY
KENNEL CLUBS INC.
http://www.OREBARegistry.com

OREBA RESCUE NETWORK GROUP INC.

http://www.OREBARescue.webs.com


 

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Complete Lie

AUTHOR: Five Star PItbulls - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 18, 2011

I have attached my UKC Entry Card which serves as proof of registration. Look at the card and read the breed which states "APBT" (American Pit Bull Terrier). As a true business man and dog lover, I take great pride in ensuring all of my dogs are properly registered, and DNA-Profiled to prove their 100% Pitbulls. He posted up UKC standards, and I come right back and display my UKC card. He's basically helped my claim. Thanks.

See people like him don't have proper paperwork from reputable and world-wide recognized kennel registries.  So him and his friends tried to create their own registry out of his apartment, when people took offense like myself,  we started to investigate into his kennel and found a lot of interesting facts, you can get an idea by clicking on the above links in my 1st rebuttal. 


I have one more link I would like to provide everyone with:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MasterOfAllBulldogs#p/u/50/tXYEc3Rqm-I
HE RANTS ABOUT HATING COPS, AND AMERICANS AS A WHOLE, SAYS HE CANT GET A JOB BECAUSE OF THE "WHITE MAN"...........This guy is a total waste of everyone's time. 


Thank You,
Johnny Thomas
Five Star Pitbulls

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Five Star Pit Bulls Kennel JOHNNY THOMAS BUYER BEWERE OF THESE SCAM AND LYING BREEDERS HERE. THEY DON'T HAVE REAL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS THAT IS FACT. Internet

AUTHOR: HatingLyingPeople - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, September 18, 2011

AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
Official U.K.C. Breed Standard
Revised October 21, 2004

History

Sometime during the nineteenth century, dog fanciers in England, Ireland, and Scotland began to experiment with crosses between Bulldogs and Terriers, looking for a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the Bulldog. The result was a dog that embodied all of the virtues attributed to great warriors: strength, indomitable courage, and gentleness with loved ones. Immigrants brought these bull and terrier crosses to the United States. The American Pit Bull Terrier's many talents did not go unnoticed by farmers and ranchers who used their APBTs for protection, as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions. Today, the American Pit Bull Terrier continues to demonstrate its versatility, competing successfully in Obedience, Tracking, Agility, Protection, and Weight Pulls, as well as Conformation.

The United Kennel Club was the first registry to recognize the American Pit Bull Terrier. U.K.C. founder C. Z. Bennett assigned U.K.C. registration number 1 to his own APBT, Bennett's Ring in 1898.
General Appearance

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a medium-sized, solidly built, short-coated dog with smooth, well-defined musculature. This breed is both powerful and athletic. The body is just slightly longer than tall, but bitches may be somewhat longer in body than dogs. The length of the front leg (measured from point of elbow to the ground) is approximately equal to one-half of the dog's height at the withers. The head is of medium length, with a broad, flat skull, and a wide, deep muzzle. Ears are small to medium in size, high set, and may be natural or cropped. The relatively short tail is set low, thick at the base and tapers to a point. The American Pit Bull Terrier comes in all colors and color patterns. This breed combines strength and athleticism with grace and agility and should never appear bulky or muscle-bound or fine-boned and rangy.
Characteristics

The essential characteristics of the American Pit Bull Terrier are strength, confidence, and zest for life. This breed is eager to please and brimming over with enthusiasm. APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. Because most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression and because of its powerful physique, the APBT requires an owner who will carefully socialize and obedience train the dog. The breed's natural agility makes it one of the most capable canine climbers so good fencing is a must for this breed. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable. This breed does very well in performance events because of its high level of intelligence and its willingness to work.

The American Pit Bull Terrier has always been capable of doing a wide variety of jobs so exaggerations or faults should be penalized in proportion to how much they interfere with the dog's versatility.
Head

The APBT head is unique and a key element of breed type. It is large and broad, giving the impression of great power, but it is not disproportionate to the size of the body. Viewed from the front, the head is shaped like a broad, blunt wedge. When viewed from the side, the skull and muzzle are parallel to one another and joined by a well defined, moderately deep stop. Supraorbital arches over the eyes are well defined but not pronounced. The head is well chiseled, blending strength, elegance, and character.

SKULL - The skull is large, flat or slightly rounded, deep, and broad between the ears. Viewed from the top, the skull tapers just slightly toward the stop. There is a deep median furrow that diminishes in depth from the stop to the occiput. Cheek muscles are prominent but free of wrinkles. When the dog is concentrating, wrinkles form on the forehead, which give the APBT his unique expression.

MUZZLE - The muzzle is broad and deep with a very slight taper from the stop to the nose, and a slight falling away under the eyes. The length of muzzle is shorter than the length of skull, with a ratio of approximately 2:3. The topline of the muzzle is straight. The lower jaw is well developed, wide and deep. Lips are clean and tight.

Faults: Snipey muzzle; flews; weak lower jaw.

TEETH - The American Pit Bull Terrier has a complete set of evenly spaced, white teeth meeting in a scissors bite.

Fault: Level bite.

Serious Faults: Undershot, or overshot bite; wry mouth; missing teeth (this does not apply to teeth that have been lost or removed by a veterinarian).

NOSE - The nose is large with wide, open nostrils. The nose may be any color.

EYES - Eyes are medium size, round to almond-shaped, and set well apart and low on the skull. All colors are equally acceptable except blue, which is a serious fault. Haw should not be visible.

Serious Faults: Bulging eyes; both eyes not matched in color; blue eyes.

EARS - Ears are high set and may be natural or cropped without preference. If natural, semi-p***k or rose are preferred. p***k or flat, wide ears are not desired.
Neck

The neck is of moderate length and muscular. There is a slight arch at the crest. The neck widens gradually from where it joins the skull to where it blends into well laid-back shoulders. The skin on the neck is tight and without dewlap.

Faults: Neck too short and thick; thin or weak neck; ewe neck; dewlap.
Forequarters

The shoulder blades are long, wide, muscular, and well laid back. The upper arm is roughly equal in length to the shoulder blade and joins it at an apparent right angle.

The forelegs are strong and muscular. The elbows are set close to the body. Viewed from the front, the forelegs are set moderately wide apart and perpendicular to the ground. The pasterns are short, powerful, straight, and flexible. When viewed in profile, the pasterns are nearly erect.

Faults: Upright or loaded shoulders; elbows turned outward or tied-in; down at the pasterns; front legs bowed; wrists knuckled over; toeing in or out.
Body

The chest is deep, well filled in, and moderately wide with ample room for heart and lungs, but the chest should never be wider than it is deep. The forechest does not extend much beyond the point of shoulder. The ribs extend well back and are well sprung from the spine, then flattening to form a deep body extending to the elbows. The back is strong and firm. The topline inclines very slightly downward from the withers to a broad, muscular, level back. The loin is short, muscular and slightly arched to the top of the croup, but narrower than the rib cage and with a moderate tuck-up. The croup is slightly sloping downward.
Hindquarters

The hindquarters are strong, muscular, and moderately broad. The rump is well filled in on each side of the tail and deep from the pelvis to the crotch. The bone, angulation, and musculature of the hindquarters are in balance with the forequarters. The thighs are well developed with thick, easily discerned muscles. Viewed from the side, the hock joint is well bent and the rear pasterns are well let down and perpendicular to the ground. Viewed from the rear, the rear pasterns are straight and parallel to one another.
Faults: Narrow hindquarters; hindquarters shallow from pelvis to crotch; lack of muscle; straight or over angulated stifle joint; cow hocks; sickle hocks; bowed legs.
Feet

The feet are round, proportionate to the size of the dog, well arched, and tight. Pads are hard, tough, and well cushioned. Dewclaws may be removed.

Fault: Splayed feet.
Tail

The tail is set on as a natural extension of the topline, and tapers to a point. When the dog is relaxed, the tail is carried low and extends approximately to the hock. When the dog is moving, the tail is carried level with the backline. When the dog is excited, the tail may be carried in a raised, upright position (challenge tail), but never curled over the back (gay tail).

Fault: Long tail (tail tip passes beyond point of hock).

Serious faults: Gay tail (not to be confused with challenge tail); kinked tail.

Disqualification: Bobbed tail.
Coat

The coat is glossy and smooth, close, and moderately stiff to the touch.

Faults: Curly, wavy, or sparse coat.

Disqualification: Long coat.
Color

Any color, color pattern, or combination of colors is acceptable, except for merle.

Disqualification: Merle
Height and Weight

The American Pit Bull Terrier must be both powerful and agile so actual weight and height are less important than the correct proportion of weight to height. Desirable weight for a mature male in good condition is between 35 and 60 pounds. Desirable weight for a mature female in good condition is between 30 and 50 pounds. Dogs over these weights are not to be penalized unless they are disproportionately massive or rangy.
Gait

The American Pit Bull Terrier moves with a jaunty, confident attitude, conveying the impression that he expects any minute to see something new and exciting. When trotting, the gait is effortless, smooth, powerful, and well coordinated, showing good reach in front and drive behind. When moving, the backline remains level with only a slight flexing to indicate suppleness. Viewed from any position, legs turn neither in nor out, nor do feet cross or interfere with each other. As speed increases, feet tend to converge toward center line of balance.

Faults: Legs not moving on the same plane; legs over reaching; legs crossing over in front or rear; rear legs moving too close or touching; rolling; pacing; paddling; sidewinding; hackney action; pounding.
Disqualifications

Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Unilateral or bilateral deafness. Bobbed tail. Albinism. Merle.

Note: Although some level of dog aggression is characteristic of this breed, handlers will be expected to comply with U.K.C. policy regarding dog temperament at U.K.C. events.

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Five Star Pit Bulls Kennel JOHNNY THOMAS BUYER BEWERE OF THESE SCAM AND LYING BREEDERS HERE. THEY DON'T HAVE REAL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS THAT IS FACT

AUTHOR: HatingLyingPeople - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, September 18, 2011
WRONG PERSON. THESE PEOPLE ARE TAGGING UKC WITH THESE BIG PIT BULL MASTIFFS CROSS DOGS. LOOK AT UKC AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER SET STANDARD OF THE BREED. IT SAID 60 LBS FOR MALES AND FEMALE 50 LBS THIS MAN GOT OVER THAT. HIS DOGS DON'T LOOK LIKE REAL AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER. HE IS KNOWN LIAR. HE HAVE AMERICAN BULLYS/AMERICAN BULLIES NEW BREED. WATCH OUT FOR THESE PEOPLE. I AM NOT THE MASTEROFALLBULLDOGS. THAT IS LIE.

Sincerely
LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT
OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.
We are here to Registry,
Rescue All Molosser Bulldogs,
AmBulldogs, Bandogges,
Bandogs and Mastiffs. We Also Are
HumanRights and AnimalRight Association.
Office: 646-265-4757
Office: 347-688-6327
Office: 843-568-6646
Office: 516-282-4591

OREBA REGISTRY KENNEL CLUBS INC.
http://www.OREBARegistry.com

OREBA RESCUE NETWORK GROUP
http://www.OREBARescue.webs.com

REAl WORKING MOLOSSER DOG PAGE
http://www.RealOldeEnglishBulldogges.webs.com
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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Complete Lie

AUTHOR: Five Star PItbulls - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 18, 2011

This guy is a complete lie, all of our dogs are UKC registered. We have no problems displaying all paperwork to anyone. Also, you can contact the United Kennel Club (269)-343-9020 and they will happily verify the breed of all of my dogs.

This guy is mad because I (and about 10 other kennels) have started a petition to have his business shut down, due to his numerous scams on innocent people. He is truly hurting our breed by lying, scamming, and selling sickly dogs to customers. Its bad enough that people already frown upon this breed, but he is really adding fuel to the fire by his ignorant, and childish antics.

He has over 20 complaints posted about his kennel/ business practices on this site alone.

He hates white people and once he finds out that the seller of his dogs are white, he ships them a malnourished dog. Please read the provided complaints on this guy, he answers all your questions about his character in his rebuttals to the complaints about his company. We have contacted the authorities and animal control. All he does is move the dogs to his friend's house and change the name of his business. 

"http://www.ripoffreport.com/animal-services/kwame-winston/kwame-winston-nothing-but-a-li-9adbq.htm" <-------his rebuttal to this complaint is "This B*tch is a liar, all White people are known liars." Please read and see for yourself. Its sad because I have spoken to Mary (the dog buyer) and she is one of the sweetest people in the world. 

"http://www.ripoffreport.com/animal-abuse/old-english-bulldogs/old-english-bulldogs-kennel-k-4m8pp.htm" <---------his rebuttal to this complaint is "People hate because they are jealous of black and hispanic people." His ignorance is negatively impacting the Pitbull Breed and he needs to be shut down.

"http://www.ripoffreport.com/animal-services/old-red-english-bull/old-red-english-bulldogs-buyer-2ca4e.htm"

"http://www.ripoffreport.com/dog-breeders/old-red-english-bull/old-red-english-bulldog-kennel-93s67.htm"

"http://www.ripoffreport.com/dog-breeders/kwame-winston-realbu/kwame-winston-realbulldogs-b2e3p.htm"


THIS IS HIS KENNEL RESCUE YOUTUBE VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIJQDv-f2c
On the video you can clearly see his does not own a reputable Kennel, and/or Dog Registry. He looks completely high off of drugs and even says he will "Still Knock a dude out, knock them out," while showing his biceps. You can see he tries to use brute force on innocent customers once they find out his dogs are not what he explained to them.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MasterOfAllBulldogs#p/u
This Youtube Video within the first 1min talks down on an old company he use to own OREBA, as if it was not his company. When you go to the company's website and look at the board of directors this nimrod didnt even take time or think of changing the last name of the Founder when he made the alias name up: Eddy Winston (his name is Kwame Winston). Also on the youtube video, if you scroll down he even has the link to the OREBA as the original standard of dogs. He must of forgotten that he was talking down on OREBA because he highlighted his old company on youtube (if he deletes, no worry I have a printscreen of it).

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VIDEOS, HE'S RUNNING HIS KENNEL OUT OF HIS BEDROOM. 

THIS GUY NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN, WITH THE HELP OF EVERYONE WE CAN JOIN TOGETHER IN SHUTTING HIM DOWN BEFORE HE SCAMS/HURT OTHERS.

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