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Global Leadership Alliance, Inc. - Tim Herr

  • Submitted: Sat, January 24, 2009
  • Updated: Thu, April 16, 2009

  • Reported By:Honolulu Hawaii
Global Leadership Alliance, Inc. - Tim Herr
600 Anton Blvd. 11th Floor Costa Mesa, California U.S.A.

Global Leadership Alliance, Inc. WATCH OUT!!! A blatant and illegal pyramid scheme. Tim Herr's new alkaline scam. Costa Mesa California

*General Comment: Ripoff, Really?

*Consumer Comment: Tim Herr and Richard Cho ripped me off and my friends too while he was working at ACN

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Truth about GLA and Tim Herr

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WATCH OUT!! DO NOT JOIN!! Global Leadership Alliance or GLA is a definite illegal pyramid scheme and they will try to recruit you at all costs. The company sells their alkaline water bottles at a whopping $300-$350, yet you can get the same exact thing for only $99 straight from the very company that they resell from (www.myalkalark.com). They will claim these bottles are a "miracle" or "fountain of youth" product when in fact, there is no scientific research at all to back up those claims.

Would you really want to go out and rip off your friends and family by selling them these bottles knowing that they could save $200-$250? ...especially in these economic times where these products are far from necessary? Well guess what? You're not required to go out and sell any products at all. That's right... this company is based primarily on recruitment and excessive inventory loading, which is one of the main defining characteristics of a pyramid scam. Here's why:

Your position and income is based on bonus points (BPs). The more BPs you have, the higher position you can achieve with more income. The comapny's model is based on a binary system which means distributors only have 2 direct downline(2 "legs"), however the 2-get-2 expansion downwards is endless and infinite (endless chain of recruiting).

The ranks and requirements are:

Master Trainer: Requires at least 400 BPs in each leg
Area Team Leader: Requires at least 2,000 BPs in each leg
Regional Team Leader: Requires at least 5,000 BPs in each leg
Area Director: Requires at least 15,000 BPs in each leg
Regional Director: Requires at least 25,000 BPs in each leg
Senior Vice President: Requires at least 150,000 BPs in each leg
Global Vice President: Requires at least 750,000 BPs in each leg

Here's the buy-in options for new recruits:

Bronze Package: Costs $299 / Generates 160 BPs anywhere in your network.
Silver Package: Costs $599 / Generates 400 BPs anywhere in your network.
Gold Package: Costs $1,099 / Generates 800 BPs anywhere in your network.

The more expensive packages simply stocks more inventory of product to the new recruit initially. In turn, it generates more bonus points. What's really disturbing is that these positions can be achieved without a single product being sold to outside customers, and can be achieved solely by recruitment and inventory loading. There is NO REQUIREMENT to sell products AT ALL. Let's do an example to see why:

Let's say a distributor wanted to achieve Regional Director. He/She needs 25,000 BPs in each leg. This can be achieved simply by:

-Recruiting 32 people in each leg on the gold package (25,000 / 800)
-Recruiting 63 people in each leg on the silver package (25,000 / 400)
-Recruiting 157 people in each leg on the bronze package (25,000 / 160)

That wasn't counting the bonus points generated by what the company calls "autoship" (inventory loading). In order to qualify for ANYTHING... to receive ANY income or get promoted to ANY position in this company, the distributor HAS to always be on a monthly autoship program which costs an additional $100 a month. This "autoship" is a stock of products shipped to the distributor every month. For every distributor who's on autoship, it generates 80 BPs in the network, and since autoship is REQUIRED to qualify for anything, every distributor is going to be on it.

So say for example you got 200 recruits in each of your 2 downline legs. It doesn't matter which package they get... That would generate 16,000 BPs (200 x 80) per month for each leg. The BPs also never ever reset, so it just keeps adding and stacking up. So that would mean in 12 months, your 200 recruits would generate 192,000 BPs on top of the BPs received from their initial sign-up.

192,000 BPs per year... with only the distributors receiving products. You can clearly see why no product needs to be sold to non-distributor customers and that it is in fact a pyramid scheme. Often, when I confront them about it, their argument is that product IS being sold because the distributors are on autoship which means "product is being sold". The reality is that the autoship is simply part of the opportunity investment and is still considered "pay to play" in the scheme.

Actual selling to outside customers CAN be done, however, the BPs generated by doing so are miniscule compared to the BPs generated by recruiting.

GLA without a doubt, violates most, if not all Federal Trade Commission guidelines for recognizing illegal pyramid recruiting schemes.

http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm - Under "Looking Ahead"

Also take a good read through (((link redacted)))

I was unfortunately sucked into this for a few months and here's what I can tell you:

GLA is taking advantage of uneducated and naive investors through deception based on loose claims and promises. Most of the people that are invited down to the meetings and sign up are young students studying in college. They are preying heavily on the universities here in Hawai'i, brainwashing people to the point where everyone now thinks that any and every job where you have to "work for someone" or be an "employee" will result in a life of financial hell and poverty and that the only way to prosper is by "owning their own business in GLA".

They will tell you to do "warm recruiting" which means soliciting friends and family to join the business. Using these mutual bonds of family and friendship as mere stepping stones for building a business will only result in strained relationships and alienation of family. GLA will force you to have a "non-negotiable & non-debatable" attitude to squeeze out the last remaining hopes of your friend's or family's' potential of signing up into the scheme... annoying them to the point where they won't ever want to talk to you anymore. Schemes like these can be even more damaging to your relationships with friends and family than it can to your bank account.

This whole scheme is based on greed for money and materialism. It makes me sick to my stomach to see many people now dropping out of college and throwing their careers away as a direct result of this company. More notably, one of my best friends who was a bright student studying engineering at UH Manoa, sporting 4.0's across the board and was on his way to a good solid career until he got recruited by GLA. Now he's not studying at all, and is now only promoting a scam. I also recently learned that he's now $50,000 in debt owed to the banks from loans. He's basing this all on the idea that he can achieve that "30 to 50 grand a month life-long success" etched into his mind by the scheme.

Don't let this money/greed cult mess with your mind. You will only be trained to deceive your close friends and family for personal gain. They will spit out what ever deceiving rhetoric they can to make you sign up if you are even the least bit skeptical. You are a slave for recruiting once they have your money. Keep your money safe. Don't ever give out your personal information to GLA recruiters. Run away if you have to.

Honolulu, Hawaii

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#1 General Comment

Ripoff, Really?

AUTHOR: SFranchitti - ()

People that join MLM and have success understand like in any business endeavor that there is a financial investment. If you chose to work with Mr Tim Herr and were unsuccessful due to a personal problem than do not report somebody for scamming you.

I am also in the military and I know that when you deploy you get many bonuses and you obviously had money to spend. The only reason you didn't have success working with Tim Herr was because of you. He does not mislead people, people just don't learn or understand what MLM really takes. That is why those same people will remain broke and struggling for a long time.

The only thing I can maybe believe him doing wrong was misunderstanding corporate policy as is a problem for many agents in many companies. I do know many people that he has personally blessed with financial freedom and I do not believe that he would ever scam anybody.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Tim Herr and Richard Cho ripped me off and my friends too while he was working at ACN

AUTHOR: Jason G - (U.S.A.)

Tim Herr and Richard Cho tricked my friends and me in to joining ACN 2 years ago they told us that we were going to invest in a good business a new DSL internet business that they were starting, all we had to do was sell DSL service and we would get a percentage of the monthly payments. They said in order to be a partner we had to invest $499 and sign up for the DSL service to make money faster. We trusted Richard Cho and Tim Herr so we invested in this business , there were about 20 of us that had just returned fron Iraq with a little money to invest. Tim Herr and Richard Cho made about $10,000 on all of us. Once they got the money they tried to get us to recruit more people at $499 we tried to back out of the deal but Tim Herr said it was to late and that we were were not getting a refund he then disappeared and we never heard from Timothy Herr or Richard Cho again. We found out that he is still ripping people off with a new company called GLA Global Leadership Alliance. We have to put a stop to these 2 clowns. find out more about Tim Herr at Feetratings.com
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The Truth about GLA and Tim Herr

AUTHOR: Markvi - (U.S.A.)


It's been reported by various defectors of GLA (Some of them higher ups and once Tim's loyal followers) that the Alkaline filters they were selling were ACTUALLY $50 and being sold for 6 TIMES THAT!

Also, Tim Herr has been known for misrepresenting himself and his company as a way to get people to trust and to believe in him. He and his loyal followers have made false claims about Tim "owning Alkalark (the company that makes the water filters)" and "being worth $200 million." NONE of such claims are true.

You want the truth? Here it is!

-Tim's first network marketing company was called NTC. He got busted for slamming a bunch of UCI students.

-Tim was a co-founder with Clif and Dave Braun, two of the biggest network marketing scammers in CA (2by2 and Infenet). Together they formed Vizion One (later named Blue Wave). This was a scammy telecommunications MLM that provided inferior services and made many false promises such as giving out luxury cars.

-Tim got busted in ACN 3 times. The first offense was for slamming in Arizona I believe. I dont know what the second offense was. The third time was just pathetic. As a way to quickly get commissions, he would encourage his downline to buy new voips for new reps with pre-paid gift cards. Though in the short term, he would make T-cabs, the voips a month later would sit there in limbo unpaid. ACN cracked down on this and did the right thing.

-He gets kicked out of 5 Linx! instead of the $499, they were selling the opportunity for $635 (499+Voip+Rep Web services). This was so reps could easily make money recruiting. Thus, making 5 Linx come off as a pyramid scheme. They NEVER mentioned just $499 during the presentation. They ONLY said $635! When I saw suckers give their new uplines their credit cards, the recruiters would copy their card numbers, expiration dates, security codes, and other required information and not even tell them that the Voip and Webservices were OPTIONAL. You only need 4 points (Webservices=2, Voip=2) to get your new rep qualified and get you paid.
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