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Complaint Review: Grace Carrington - Internet

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Grace Carrington, Heather's Healing Light Telephone Psychic Fraud Scheme including Voodoo and Spellcasting For Money Ripoff Internet Based - Near Beaumont California Internet

*Consumer Comment: Setting the record straight on Grace Carrington, Psychic Fraud

*Author of original report: Grace Carrington lives in Banning, California

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington is a fraud, pure and simple. She continues to evade justice by telling lies.

*UPDATE Employee: Grace Carrington sets the record straight

*Consumer Comment: How Best To Deal With Psychic Fraud Grace Carrington + some background information

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Grace Carrington setting the record straight

*Author of original report: Response to Grace Carrington

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*Consumer Suggestion: Grace Carrington, setting the record straight

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

*Consumer Comment: Grace Carrington also known as "A Ray of Light" on Keen.com

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Grace Carrington/Heathers Healing Light/Ask Lillian - complete deceit!

*Author of original report: Grace Carrington is indeed Heather Falls aka Heather's Healing Light

*Consumer Comment: Heathers+Healing+Light IS MY WIFE & Colorado Springs, CO we've lived HERE ALWAYS!!

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Grace Carrington operates on a website called Keen.com, but also gives out her phone number which appears to be near Beaumont, California (near San Bernardino). She operates with both the name "Grace Carrington" (www.keen.com/grace+carrington) and "Heather's Healing Light" (www.keen.com/Heathers+Healing+Light). This is exactly the same person.

I'm a single mother living just outside Chicago. I called Grace about a relationship issue. Since a friend told me about her, I went into the situation feeling like I could trust Grace. It's important to say here that neither I nor my friend call Grace anymore, and we have both been treated exactly the same way. Also important is know that Grace is someone who gains your trust, disarms you, and then rips you off. It's a process that in hindsight seems like an elaborate "chess game" she plays on people, and which is calculated and organized very carefully so as to seem innocent and not at all contrived. But it is because it happens over and over again to many people.

When my friend told me to call Grace, she was still in the early stages of being ripped off by Grace and hadn't yet realized it. Grace clearly uses this fact to her advantage in building word-of-mouth referrals. In searching online about Grace, I have found other victims who report that originally everything seems fine and then it gets bad, in much the same way as happened with me and my friend.

Grace Carrington uses and encourages Spells and Voodoo type tactics.

Grace Carrington clearly uses and encourages "voodoo" or "spellcasting". In fact, I would say she takes it to an entirely new level. Before I explain why, it is important to respond/comment on another report on this site

that is a cut-and-paste of a supposed website Grace has which says she doesn't endorse nor encourage such "voodoo" or "spells". It is critical to note that that "site" is really just a post on a free advertising site that Grace put up AFTER she was exposed online for being a voodoo and spellcasting person. She also posted comments to that effect on other people's forums on the same day. The point is that she is in fact someone who takes money for spells, advocates spells, offers to do them on people, and charges money for such. This has happened with me, my friend, and others who have posted things on the web in various places to let people know.

Grace Carrington told me that if I didn't do as she said, she would put a curse on my children and they would be permanently hurt by this. She said that if I told anyone the same would happen to me. She also said she would deny that she does this and claim that I was insane and imagining things if I told anyone. She often clearly implied, though didn't say directly, that her curses and spells were important learning lessons for me and others, that it was her way of helping them to spiritually evolve and grow, that she was teaching in doing her evil work. For a while, I listened to this garbage and tried to extract the truth from in between the dogma, because she was referred by a good friend whom I trust. But in the end, it all made sense: she was only after my money, didn't care about my heart and soul, and would go to almost any length to get that money. Greed clearly motivates this woman from my view.

My friend and I have since talked and realize now we have been bilked out of over $12,000 collectively. There appear to be many other people online who are writing about this woman. I am encouraging them to come forward and write on this forum about their experiences, in detail. I certainly hope that something happens to stop this woman before she does more harm. It's most likely happening at this very moment.

I fully expect to be bombarded by negative posts by friends of Grace and Grace using an alias or two or three or four. In fact, someone in the background once called out to her using a different name on a call she placed to me from her home. I couldn't make out the name, but it clearly wasn't "Grace". My friend, who was in a horrible situation, was seriously damaged by "Grace Carrington". The money wasn't even the half of it. It was the mind game Grace placed on both of us, with a greater effect on my good friend, who is in counseling for it now. This woman who goes by the name "Grace" and "Heather" seems to have no morals whatsoever.

The problem with being abused like this is that it is embarrassing. How could an intelligent person like me be ripped off by this woman I don't even know and who isn't even using her real name? That's the problem with so many people in this situation. I'm pleased to report that my relationship, which Grace Carrington said was going to be over by this point, is flourishing. In fact, we are engaged to be married. To hide under the banner of "for entertainment purposes only" is equally irresponsible and revolting.

If you are reading this and you have been victimized by Grace Carrington and/or Heather's Healing Light, please make a report on here and go to your authorities to report this abuse, please.

Stephanie
Evanston, Illinois
U.S.A.

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#19 Consumer Comment

Setting the record straight on Grace Carrington, Psychic Fraud

AUTHOR: Carla - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 29, 2007

I'm writing this report on Grace Carrington who I came to know by several names other than Grace Carrington. I called Grace for the first time in summer 2004 through an online service, Keen, though she gave me her private number and her private website. I continued to call Grace off and on over a six month period. It's difficult for others who don't believe to understand how someone could call a psychic when they are down. I think the main reason is that it's totally anonymous which makes it easier in some ways. It's like having a "girlfriend" who can listen to your concerns, but privately, or so I thought. It turned out that Grace was really just in it for the money. Under any normal circumstances, I would have seen it clearly. When you are in dire straights it's never good to call someone who charges by the minute.

Grace managed to exthort over $6,700 for me, both on and off the internet. I'm not the only one, either. In talking to the authorities, I've learned that she has quite a reputation. You might say it's been a journey for me. The service she uses to field her calls, Keen.com, apparently has multiple complaints against it with the A.G.'s in just about every state, including about Grace Carrington.

As with another woman who filed a report on here, Grace encouraged me to be an spiritual advisor just like herself, saying she had connections with the management to get me a top spot. She knew I had no more money to give to her, so maybe this was her way of milking more out of someplace there wasn't anymore to get. The most frightening thing is that anyone can do it, apparently, without any qualifications or skills, which probably explains how Grace Carrington got in there. Let the buyer beware but don't let the swindlers off the hook either. By any definition, Grace Carrington is a swindler, probably a professional one.

I've read many of the things online about Grace, and the accounts of others who have been swindled by her. I've also read Grace's rebuttals on here, and her written feedback on one of the places she does her work online. It keeps saying the same things over and over again about how bad she is, how she is cruel and yells, how she doesn't seem to have any ability, etc. There are common themes in all of this, similar to what I've experienced, things such as when you bring these things to her attention she yells at you and how she asks for large sums of money to perform services that are intangible and hard to verify, not to mention aren't real or possible. Just like talking to her on the phone, she seems to be an angry and miserable person who projects that onto others, blaming them for something she is doing to others. Reading her words, it's obvious to all of us she is trying to wiggle out of her liability for what she has done. But it won't be possible because there are literally hundreds of victims of Grace.

By the way, I once called Grace on Keen.com under an account called "Heather's Healing Light". That is the "Heather" who is noted on here, and who doesn't live in Colorado Springs, as Grace would have you believe. I know because I spoke to her and recognized her as Grace Carrington. All together, I have learned of 7 different names Grace uses to continue her criminal activity and consumer fraud.

Thanks for the others who referred me to this site. We must all gather together and fight this woman until she goes out of business. I'm confident that will happen soon, resulting in criminal prosecution for theft and fraud, which is what the authorities have told me her actions constitute. Maybe then she will make restitution for over $6,700 she stole from me and tens of thousands more she ripped off from others.

For Grace to post on here, as she has, that she is "setting the record straight" is rather like Hitler posting that the Jews are evil. I agree with others that Grace uses smokescreens and other diversionary techniques to redirect the attention away from her criminal enterprise. Then she lists her "phone number" as the number on the website that makes you pay to talk to her. You cannot call her without paying money, so she's violating the terms of this site by using it as a promotional tool. This shows her mindset, which is to use everyone and everything to her benefit, regardless of the effects or the rules.

Carla
Chapel Hill, NC

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Grace Carrington lives in Banning, California

AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 29, 2007

I have learned from another online source that Grace Carrington's psychic spellcasting business is based out of her home in Banning, California. I talked to the woman who reported that elsewhere and found that she lost over $5,000 to Grace Carrington and knows her quite well. She's going to be writing in to the Ripoff Report with the help of her attorney.

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Grace Carrington is a fraud, pure and simple. She continues to evade justice by telling lies.

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 29, 2007

My name is definitely Robert, not any other name, contrary to the "Grace Carrington" rebuttals, which are flat out lies. I previously posted my phone number on here and it was removed, or you could all call me and speak to me directly. I live in Skokie, Illinois, and run a small business. Previously I worked as a police officer for over 10 years, served my country in the USMC, and know a thing or two about how these fraudulent people, such as "Grace Carrington", operate. My beautiful wife and I have been married for 12 years and we have three wonderful children, one of whom is a special needs child.

"Grace Carrington" has taken significant amounts of money from me and from from quite a number of other people (there are several others who have posted here about her crimes against them, and one could easily assume therefore that there are others who aren't posted on here) by representing herself as a "psychic". She asks for people to send her money for removal of curses and through spellcasting. She continues to do her work on a website at keen.com and others.

Contrary to "Grace Carrington's" rebuttal on here, I have NOT been convicted of any crimes, nor have any of the others in the online forum referenced. None of us have the initials "G.L." as can be witnessed by reviewing our member roster (there are 43 of us), and contrary to "Grace Carrington".

My experience of "Grace Carrington" has been entirely through the website www.keen.com where she asked me to call her at her private phone number and send her a substantial amount of money ($2,400) so that she could remove a curse. I told her then as I write now: I do not believe in curses and if there were such a thing, "Grace Carrington" nor anyone else would have the ability to remove them, not for any sum of money.

I have just posted in our forum for others to come here and share their own experiences of "Grace Carrington". It is in that forum that I found out about this website, for which I am eternally grateful.

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Grace Carrington sets the record straight

AUTHOR: Grace Carrington - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 29, 2007

Grace Carrington, setting the record straight
I can be reached at 1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455. Be sure to visit my Keen blog.


This is Grace Carrington. 'Robert' 'Stephanie' 'Marie' 'Kim' or whatever name you choose to use now... You're just angry because I sent you to prison in 2002!!

I know EXACTLY who you are 'G.L'. You are not a Keen customer as you've been banned by Keen and your name is not 'Stephanie'!! You go by a different name yourself because you are NOT a 'single mother' whom supposedly called me for a reading and got 'Voodood' or 'spelled' blah... blah... blah...blah...blah which are ALL such WEIRD drug induced stuff and such obvious lies!

You are just so mad at Keen and me (and other psychics) since I was the one who was very instrumental in securing your conviction in attempted online grand larceny, attempted grand theft and attempted online identity theft. You must be so angy by the looks of all these weird rambling neurotic separate Ripoff reports (in different people's names from supposedly all over the US which you've submitted here) regarding how I do my psychic work and business...and this is all because you couldn't steal funds from me and because you got caught trying to steal from others as well as being kicked off of Keen for your ill fated attempts!! Keen changed their policy now so that everyone has to submit a credit card to open up an account now for identity purposes. So you can't get away with anything now and you're pissed off at Keen for that too!

I notice in your ramblings as "Robert" that you have nothing good to say about the Keen company. I'm telling the truth about who you are G.L. and what you TRIED to do, but got caught at (with my help to turn you in) and then you got sent to prison for it!! NO WONDER you don't like Keen or any of the other psychics you mention here as we ALL must have helped to put you in prison! You ran the same scam over and over and got caught before you could pull it all off. Boy you must be pissed. You thought you stood to gain tens of thousands of dollars all at once by changing bank info to your own bank account on multiple psychic advisors accounts upon security break-ins by phishing and hacking YET YOU ENDED UP IN PRISON FOR THOSE ATTEMPTS INSTEAD!! It must have been pretty tough only making A FEW PENNIES A DAY FOR YEARS!! You are one pissed off fellow G.L. Seek therapy, get off drugs, get sober, and get a JOB !! Oh yeah everybody, G.L. is a MALE (obviously not much of one). You need to 'man up' and stay within the law because you should have learned after 5 YEARS, for Heaven sakes, that crime really doesn't pay.

How G.L. and I met:

Jan. 2002: You did call me on another psychic network telling me you were NOT seeking any reading from me but that you were actually Keen STAFF offering me the opportunity to join Keen because it was free to join and you knew by reputation, that I was a top reader at the company you contacted me at. I signed up as an advisor with Keen in March 2002 and, as expected, I started getting a whole LOT of calls!!! You waited for this success to fill my Keen account balance near the end of that month like a panther in the grass, you PREDITOR!! You then you called up Keen customer service in 2002 trying to tell them that you legally represented me claiming to have my power of attorney, telling them you needed my PASSWORD to my Keen account!!! Of course they turned you down flat and quickly alerted me of the attempted breach after you started yelling at them (yeah they told me G.L). A forgotten password is simply NEVER something you call customer service for, because you can always click on the little hyperlink on the sign-in page for that info to be sent to your own email account. Anyone who is clean and sober knows that fact G.L. (get OFF those drugs)

KEEN never gives out advisor's personal information to anyone. That is against their policy. Back then in 2002 I figured out that you wanted to get into my KEEN account, change my banking information to reroute my earnings to YOUR OWN bank account. I alerted Keen to it and that's what made you have a whole lot of really bad days, isn't it. SO HOW WAS THAT PRISON FOOD G.L.? When Keen turned you down in your request for my password and alerted me to the problem advising me to change my password (making it EXTREMELY hard to hack) then you got really pissed off. You've had 5 years of prison time to stew on this trouble YOU caused yourself. I suggest you do something constructive with your life, instead of accuse mulitple psychics of bad business practices, simply because you cannot access their earnings or just to get revenge for your own online hacking fraud failures. You got out of prison for theft/fraud sometime around Sept 2006, which is when I noticed you have posted all these weird (rather comical) garbage about me all over the place online! Gosh, you do have a lot of time on your hands don't you? Hey G.L., only a druggy would think of trying to ruin another psychic's business, by saying she does 'Voodoo' or 'spells' or some such garbage, in order to prevent new customers from calling her. If I did do that Voodoo stuff, then why do I have all my trusted REPEAT customers? Hey it might be best to get off those drugs and get a real job. It's more honest. Besides, you don't even make a good crook! And as far as the issue of me having different accounts on Keen? Well anyone and everyone reading this, just ask yourself these questions: How is it that some of these other psychics 'Stephanie' speaks of have a few of the same customers that I do? Also, notice these other psychics don't look like me? LOL!!

Oh, and for your information, I've written each of these psychics an email on Keen advising them to make sure their passwords are changed often, have some capital letters in there and numbers too. It's always a good practice for everyone to do that with online accounts which have funds in them and banking information. I never ask for phone numbers nor give mine out unless it's my Keen phone number, which is listed below. Be sure to check out my blog on Keen too, if you want to get a feeling for what kind of psychic I am everyone!! Thanks!


Record is straight now,


Grace Carrington

1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455

Submitted: 7/25/2007 12:59:12 PM
Modified: 7/25/2007 2:12:47 PM Stephanie
Chicago, Illinois
U.S.A.

Response to Grace Carrington
My name is Stephanie. I live just outside of Chicago in Evanston, Illinois. I have not and never would be associated with a website called Keen.com or it's company in any way, nor do I claim to have any 'psychic' ability which would allow me to feel good about placing myself on such a service.

Grace's so-called 'setting the record straight' post on here is another attempt to do what she does well: deflect and blame others, whether they exist or are figments of her apparently vivid imagination, when in fact she has tormented people all over the country via her self-described 'psychic abilities'. If I could post my phone number on this site (I checked and you cannot) I would and anyone could call me and ask me personally and I'd tell them.

What is completely true is that Grace is a liar and a fraud who takes people's money under false pretense, uses the name 'Grace Carrington' which belongs to a famous person, and gets people to send her money to her home directly when they call her through the www.keen.com website. I've reviewed their Terms of Use and it strictly prohibits this kind of behavior, yet she still operates on that site, from what I see and know, as Grace Carrington, Ask Lillian, Visionary Rays of Light, and Heather Falls.

I know and have met in person others who have been scammed by 'Grace'. Plus, I've met others online who have been victimized in exactly the same way. This is a clear pattern on her part.

Do not believe Grace's posts on this board as they are as fraudulent as the lies and scams she pulls on others, as can easily be seen by doing a simple google search on Grace Carrington.

Again, I am Stephanie and I live in Evanston, Illinois. I urge everyone to do their own search on this woman and they will find what she is all about.

Submitted: 7/26/2007 6:16:01 AM
Modified: 7/26/2007 6:58:39 AM Grace Carrington
Malibu, California
U.S.A.

Grace Carrington setting the record straight
Gosh G.L., (or I guess you're calling yourself 'Stephanie' or is it 'Robert' these days)

On ONE posting you are saying you HAVE NEVER associated yourself with Keen, yet I see by a PREVIOUS posting dated 4/15/07 which YOU YOURSELF placed here under the alias 'Stephanie' on this very RipOff Report site, that you claim you supposedly had called me on Keen for a reading at one time!

So, gosh which is it? You also state that one cannot post their phone number here on this site. That's funny, I did it. so why can't you? Afraid I'll get the authorities after you again G.L.? So how was that prison food?

My phone number is 1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455 so obviously I am very accessable with nothing to hide.

You claim one thing, then you claim another in YOUR OWN postings here! You really should give up those drugs 'Stephanie', 'Marie', 'Kim' or 'Robert' (whatever multiple names and stories you are using these days WHICH YOU SADLY CANNOT KEEP STRAIGHT EVEN WHEN YOU CAN READ BACK TO REFERENCE THEM ON THIS FORUM. drugs are BAD G.L.!!)

Also, calling Keen to get my address is against the Keen membership agreement. Claiming Keen gave it to you is outrageous! Besides, what would be the point!? Stalking is against the law! I'm real sure this harassment and attempted stalking of all of these psychics you mention here on this site simply has to be some sort of a parole violation.

What's the matter? Didn't these other psychics give you their passwords either after you falsely claimed to be on the Keen staff like you tried to claim when talking with me? You're just pissed because none of us would fall for that nonsense.

Also, your claiming that Keen legally violated their own privacy policy by giving you my address. Claiming that publicly on this forum won't pan out too well for you in any civil suit, if KEEN chose to level one against you in court either G.L. They are a big company and they would most likely win but you've got no assets.

My advice to you? Get clean, get sober, and get a JOB!! Quit bashing all of these Keen psychics simply because you are jealous of them because they still work on Keen and you have been banned from Keen. You were banned for good reason. Attempted fraud and identity theft are good reasons. Hey, crime doesn't pay.

My advice to everyone? Please stay in school or you'll end up like G.L. . Such a sad thing.

My phone number again: 1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455

Setting the record straight,

Grace Carrington

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How Best To Deal With Psychic Fraud Grace Carrington + some background information

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, July 26, 2007

My name is Robert and I'm from Skokie, Illinois, just outside Chicago. I have quite a lot of insight into this situation and want to add my part too.

How I found Grace Carrington.

A while back I called Grace Carrington on Keen.com after I received an email offering from them. Like the others, I am embarrassed that I fell for this scam. In the dark of the night it seems easier to fall prey to your emotions. Perhaps we do things then that we wouldn't otherwise consider. As a professional, I am personally embarrassed that I ever called a psychic hotline much less through the internet. But I did. I talked to several people on the site, some of whom were very nice and well-meaning but not particularly gifted in any way, certainly not psychically.

Grace is dismissive and condescending.

Grace Carrington was a good talker. However, as others have reported, she seemed self-righteous and talked down to me like I was stupid. What I noticed was that if I disagreed with her in any way, she became dismissive: just like the posts on this website which don't really address the problem but put up a smokescreen for what is really the case.

Grace doesn't seem to have any psychic ability and encourages people to call her at an alternate number.

Perhaps I was stupid to call Grace in the first place. I talked to her on three separate occasions, wanting to believe that her tone with me maybe wasn't inappropriate. She made several predictions plus she pointed out things about my private and personal issues that never panned out and/or were completely off the mark. In the third call to her, she shared her private phone number with me, asking me to call her directly. She also gave the URL to a place I could go to find her away from the Keen.com website and where she could accept payment for such services. She said that this was better since she wanted a more direct connection with me. This is what made me very suspicious of her. So I simply stopped calling, cut my losses, and tried to resolve the matter through more traditional means.

Stephanie is a real person who lives near Chicago also.

However, the abuse by this woman was hard to shake off. I did an online search found others who had been horribly abused by her, including people right here in the Chicago area, through an online forum discussing so-called psychics, including some of those on Keen.com. Through that forum, I met Stephanie and three others who live here in Chicago. I've spent a lot of time listening (on the phone) to her own account of Grace Carrington, so I feel comfortable saying that she is definitely a real person who lives here and suffered real-life emotional damage from Grace Carrington's antics. She is quite a lady. Talking to her has helped me to see more clearly.


Grace Carrington is one of many aliases used by this person.

Grace Carrington as it turns out also goes by several other names. The notices of others about the other accounts she has on the same website are genuinely true and significant in that the website's terms of use appears to limit the number of listings and accounts each person can have. The online forum I referred to in here is filled with accounts of others who have noticed this as well and who have reported it to the same site, with no visible change except that Grace Carrington has changed her name a few more times, apparently to hide from those who have discovered that she is milking the system for all she can get and seemingly they don't care and in fact support her in doing so.

Grace Carrington has and continues to victimize many people.

The online forum has a myriad of people who have been hurt by Grace Carrington, who have reported her to the powers that be at Keen.com, and who have never gotten any resolution. What Stephanie and others seem to be saying is not that they NEVER had an account on Keen.com, for in fact to call anyone on there you have to sign up for an account, but instead that they NO LONGER have an account on that site.

Grace's allegation that we are disenchanted former Keen.com psychics is FALSE.

Certainly no one in our forum and certainly not Stephanie or myself have ever been a psychic on keen.com, so that is flat out wrong. However, to imagine that anyone would be upset about being disassociated with such a service or jealous of those on it seems, at best, misguided. I should think that anyone of any value would want to divorce themselves from Grace Carrington or any outfit she figures prominently in, such as Keen.com.

Grace's allegation that we have been convicted of any crimes is FALSE.

Finally, I feel it is also important to respond to the allegation Grace Carrington has made that we have committed crimes or been convicted of such crimes. This is simply NOT true. If you think about it, we couldn't be here writing these things if she were somehow instrumental in getting us busted for crimes we never committed. In fact, Keen.com provides a way for its customers to call the psychics on their site without either party giving out private information, even their names. Anyone who takes the time to read the website's terms of use or Member Agreement knows that they do not guarantee the authenticity or efficacy of the psychic and in fact are only a neutral third party intermediary. So I guess that makes them feel like they are off the hook. But then if you look at their site and their practices, including the fact that people have brought these violations and breaches of contract to their attention, it seems like they encourage these things.

The story of Grace Carrington, whoever she really is, appears to be one among hundreds of nightmares and frauds committed. This is why it is an important piece to grasp, so when you multiply it by the number of psychics on their service, it begins to sink in what an unregulated and unchecked scam this is and continues to be.

ANYONE can sign up as a psychic on Keen.com

In fact, ANYONE can sign up on Keen.com and say they are psychic. See for yourself. No one checks for real-life abilities or verifies credentials. Grace Carrington's only verified credentials seem to be, ironically, in the insurance business. Even those have been deleted.

Grace Carrington used to work for Miss Cleo

On some of her online profiles, she boasts as having been a part of the Psychic Readers Network, which is also known for the Miss Cleo fiasco. That says it all.

Grace Carrington's feedback is padded including by other psychics

Also, there is one person in our forum who went directly to the people who run Keen.com and complained about Grace Carrington and a slew of others. These psychics (including Grace) were allegedly padding each others' feedback (i.e. leaving false positive feedback for one another) and therefore deceiving the customer. Keen.com offered money to this individual as a sort of buy off to go away and be quiet by the offer was refused. Instead that agreement has been posted in the forum for all to see. It's very revealing.

I'm encouraging the others in the forum to come forward and post their account of Grace Carrington aka Heather aka Lillian aka the other names mentioned.

It should be noted that Grace has posted her phone number on here as well, but in order to call her on it you have to pay money ($4.00 a minute and up for Grace!) and register on Keen.com! Heh! So it's like an advertisement for her services.

Robert

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Grace Carrington setting the record straight

AUTHOR: Grace Carrington - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, July 26, 2007

Gosh G.L., (or I guess you're calling yourself "Stephanie" these days)

On ONE posting you are saying you HAVE NEVER associated yourself with Keen, yet I see by a PREVIOUS posting dated 4/15/07 which YOU YOURSELF placed here under the alias "Stephanie" on this very RipOff Report site, that you claim you supposedly had called me on Keen for a reading at one time!

So, gosh which is it? You also state that one cannot post their phone number here on this site. That's funny, I did it. so why can't you? Afraid I'll get the authorities after you again G.L.? So how was that prison food?

My phone number is 1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455 so obviously I am very accessable with nothing to hide.

You claim one thing, then you claim another in YOUR OWN postings here! You really should give up those drugs "Stephanie", "Marie", or "Kim" (whatever multiple names and stories you are using these days WHICH YOU SADLY CANNOT KEEP STRAIGHT EVEN WHEN YOU CAN READ BACK TO REFERENCE THEM ON THIS FORUM. drugs are BAD G.L.!!)

Also, calling Keen to get my address is against the Keen membership agreement. Claiming Keen gave it to you is outrageous! Besides, what would be the point!? Stalking is against the law! I'm real sure this harassment and attempted stalking of all of these psychics you mention here on this site simply has to be some sort of a parole violation.

What's the matter? Didn't these other psychics give you their passwords either after you falsely claimed to be on the Keen staff like you tried to claim when talking with me? You're just pissed because none of us would fall for that nonsense.

Also, your claiming that Keen legally violated their own privacy policy by giving you my address. Claiming that publicly on this forum won't pan out too well for you in any civil suit, if KEEN chose to level one against you in court either G.L. They are a big company and they would most likely win but you've got no assets.

My advice to you? Get clean, get sober, and get a JOB!! Quit bashing all of these Keen psychics simply because you are jealous of them because they still work on Keen and you have been banned from Keen. You were banned for good reason. Attempted fraud and identity theft are good reasons. Hey, crime doesn't pay.

My advice to everyone? Please stay in school or you'll end up like G.L. . Such a sad thing.

My phone number again: 1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455

Setting the record straight,

Grace Carrington

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AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 25, 2007

My name is Stephanie. I live just outside of Chicago in Evanston, Illinois. I have not and never would be associated with a website called Keen.com or it's company in any way, nor do I claim to have any "psychic" ability which would allow me to feel good about placing myself on such a service.

Grace's so-called "setting the record straight" post on here is another attempt to do what she does well: deflect and blame others, whether they exist or are figments of her apparently vivid imagination, when in fact she has tormented people all over the country via her self-described "psychic abilities". If I could post my phone number on this site (I checked and you cannot) I would and anyone could call me and ask me personally and I'd tell them.

What is completely true is that Grace is a liar and a fraud who takes people's money under false pretense, uses the name "Grace Carrington" which belongs to a famous person, and gets people to send her money to her home directly when they call her through the www.keen.com website. I've reviewed their Terms of Use and it strictly prohibits this kind of behavior, yet she still operates on that site, from what I see and know, as Grace Carrington, Ask Lillian, Visionary Rays of Light, and Heather Falls.

I know and have met in person others who have been scammed by "Grace". Plus, I've met others online who have been victimized in exactly the same way. This is a clear pattern on her part.

Do not believe Grace's posts on this board as they are as fraudulent as the lies and scams she pulls on others, as can easily be seen by doing a simple google search on Grace Carrington.

Again, I am Stephanie and I live in Evanston, Illinois. I urge everyone to do their own search on this woman and they will find what she is all about.

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AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 25, 2007

My name is Stephanie. I live just outside of Chicago in Evanston, Illinois. I have not and never would be associated with a website called Keen.com or it's company in any way, nor do I claim to have any "psychic" ability which would allow me to feel good about placing myself on such a service.

Grace's so-called "setting the record straight" post on here is another attempt to do what she does well: deflect and blame others, whether they exist or are figments of her apparently vivid imagination, when in fact she has tormented people all over the country via her self-described "psychic abilities". If I could post my phone number on this site (I checked and you cannot) I would and anyone could call me and ask me personally and I'd tell them.

What is completely true is that Grace is a liar and a fraud who takes people's money under false pretense, uses the name "Grace Carrington" which belongs to a famous person, and gets people to send her money to her home directly when they call her through the www.keen.com website. I've reviewed their Terms of Use and it strictly prohibits this kind of behavior, yet she still operates on that site, from what I see and know, as Grace Carrington, Ask Lillian, Visionary Rays of Light, and Heather Falls.

I know and have met in person others who have been scammed by "Grace". Plus, I've met others online who have been victimized in exactly the same way. This is a clear pattern on her part.

Do not believe Grace's posts on this board as they are as fraudulent as the lies and scams she pulls on others, as can easily be seen by doing a simple google search on Grace Carrington.

Again, I am Stephanie and I live in Evanston, Illinois. I urge everyone to do their own search on this woman and they will find what she is all about.

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AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 25, 2007

My name is Stephanie. I live just outside of Chicago in Evanston, Illinois. I have not and never would be associated with a website called Keen.com or it's company in any way, nor do I claim to have any "psychic" ability which would allow me to feel good about placing myself on such a service.

Grace's so-called "setting the record straight" post on here is another attempt to do what she does well: deflect and blame others, whether they exist or are figments of her apparently vivid imagination, when in fact she has tormented people all over the country via her self-described "psychic abilities". If I could post my phone number on this site (I checked and you cannot) I would and anyone could call me and ask me personally and I'd tell them.

What is completely true is that Grace is a liar and a fraud who takes people's money under false pretense, uses the name "Grace Carrington" which belongs to a famous person, and gets people to send her money to her home directly when they call her through the www.keen.com website. I've reviewed their Terms of Use and it strictly prohibits this kind of behavior, yet she still operates on that site, from what I see and know, as Grace Carrington, Ask Lillian, Visionary Rays of Light, and Heather Falls.

I know and have met in person others who have been scammed by "Grace". Plus, I've met others online who have been victimized in exactly the same way. This is a clear pattern on her part.

Do not believe Grace's posts on this board as they are as fraudulent as the lies and scams she pulls on others, as can easily be seen by doing a simple google search on Grace Carrington.

Again, I am Stephanie and I live in Evanston, Illinois. I urge everyone to do their own search on this woman and they will find what she is all about.

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AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 25, 2007

My name is Stephanie. I live just outside of Chicago in Evanston, Illinois. I have not and never would be associated with a website called Keen.com or it's company in any way, nor do I claim to have any "psychic" ability which would allow me to feel good about placing myself on such a service.

Grace's so-called "setting the record straight" post on here is another attempt to do what she does well: deflect and blame others, whether they exist or are figments of her apparently vivid imagination, when in fact she has tormented people all over the country via her self-described "psychic abilities". If I could post my phone number on this site (I checked and you cannot) I would and anyone could call me and ask me personally and I'd tell them.

What is completely true is that Grace is a liar and a fraud who takes people's money under false pretense, uses the name "Grace Carrington" which belongs to a famous person, and gets people to send her money to her home directly when they call her through the www.keen.com website. I've reviewed their Terms of Use and it strictly prohibits this kind of behavior, yet she still operates on that site, from what I see and know, as Grace Carrington, Ask Lillian, Visionary Rays of Light, and Heather Falls.

I know and have met in person others who have been scammed by "Grace". Plus, I've met others online who have been victimized in exactly the same way. This is a clear pattern on her part.

Do not believe Grace's posts on this board as they are as fraudulent as the lies and scams she pulls on others, as can easily be seen by doing a simple google search on Grace Carrington.

Again, I am Stephanie and I live in Evanston, Illinois. I urge everyone to do their own search on this woman and they will find what she is all about.

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Grace Carrington, setting the record straight

AUTHOR: Grace Carrington - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, July 20, 2007

This is Grace Carrington. "Stephanie", You're just angry because I sent you to prison in 2002!!


I know EXACTLY who you are "G.L". You are not a Keen customer as you've been banned by Keen and your name is not "Stephanie"!! You go by a different name yourself because you are NOT a "single mother" whom supposedly called me for a reading and got "Voodood" or "spelled" blah... blah... blah...blah...blah which are ALL such WEIRD drug induced stuff, obviously lies!

You are just mad at me since I was the one who was very instrumental in securing your conviction in attempted online grand larceny, attempted grand theft and attempted online identity theft and you must be so angy by the looks of all these weird rambling neurotic separate Ripoff reports (in different people's names from supposedly all over the US which you've submitted here) regarding how I do my psychic work and business...and this is all because you couldn't steal funds from me and because you got caught trying to steal from others as well as being kicked off of Keen for your ill fated attempts!! Keen changed their policy now, thank goodness, to where you have to submit a credit card to open up an account now for identity purposes. So you can't get away with anything now and you're pissed off at Keen for that too!

You called up Keen customer service in 2002 trying to tell them that you legally represented me. You claimed to have my power of attorney and asked for my PASSWORD to my account!!! Of course they turned you down flat and alerted me of the attempted breach after you started yelling at them (yeah they told me G.L). A forgotten password is simply never something you call customer service for, because you can always click on the little hyperlink on the sign-in page for that info to be sent to your own email account. Everyone of sound mind knows that G.L. (get off drugs)

KEEN never gives out advisor's personal information to anyone as that is against their policy. Back then in 2002 I figured out that you wanted to get into my KEEN account, change my banking information to reroute my earnings to YOUR OWN bank account. I alerted Keen to it and that's what made you have a whole lot of really bad days, isn't it. So how was that prison food? When Keen turned you down in your request for my password and alerted me to the problem advising me to change my password (making it EXTREMELY hard to hack) then you got pissed off. You've had 5 years of prison time to stew on this trouble YOU caused yourself. I suggest you do something constructive with your life, instead of accuse mulitple psychics of bad business practices, simply because you cannot access their earnings or just to get revenge for your own online hacking fraud failures. You got out of prison for theft/fraud sometime around Sept 2006, which is when I noticed you have posted all these weird (rather comical) garbage about me all over the place online! Gosh, you do have a lot of time on your hands don't you? Hey G.L., only a druggy would think of trying to ruin another psychic's business, by saying she does "Voodoo" or "spells" or some such garbage, in order to prevent new customers from calling her. If I did do that Voodoo stuff, then why do I have all my trusted REPEAT customers? Hey it might be best to get off those drugs and get a real job. It's more honest. Besides, you don't even make a good crook! And as far as the issue of me having different accounts on Keen? Well anyone and everyone reading this, just ask yourself these questions: How is it that some of these other psychics "Stephanie" speaks of have a few of the same customers that I do? Also, notice these other psychics don't look like me? LOL!!

Oh, and for your information, I've written each of these psychics an email on Keen advising them to make sure their passwords are changed often, have some capital letters in there and numbers too. It's always a good practice for everyone to do that with online accounts which have funds in them and banking information. I never ask for phone numbers nor give mine out unless it's my Keen phone number, which is listed below. Be sure to check out my blog on Keen too, if you want to get a feeling for what kind of psychic I am everyone!! Thanks!


Record is straight now,


Grace Carrington

1-800-275-5336 Ext. 0182455

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Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 24, 2007

This woman has many aliases. Her real name is Marilyn. I do not know her last name, but know she lives in Banning, California. Some of her numerous online posts say she lives in Malibu. Banning, for anyone's information, is inland from Los Angeles and not near Malibu.

Her many names on the website Keen.com include, and continue to mutate (it appears she can change her identity at will and in a moment): keen.com/VisionaryRaysOfLight, keen.com/Grace Carrington,keen.com/AskLillian. She has also been known on Keen.com as "Heather Falls". It appears her "Heather Falls" account has been changed to "A Ray of Light" and then "VisionaryRaysofLight" as indicated.

While many people have apparently reported this woman to various authorities, she is still up and running. This information is to help those looking for her to get to her so that they can be forewarned and also report her accordingly.

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Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 24, 2007

This woman has many aliases. Her real name is Marilyn. I do not know her last name, but know she lives in Banning, California. Some of her numerous online posts say she lives in Malibu. Banning, for anyone's information, is inland from Los Angeles and not near Malibu.

Her many names on the website Keen.com include, and continue to mutate (it appears she can change her identity at will and in a moment): keen.com/VisionaryRaysOfLight, keen.com/Grace Carrington,keen.com/AskLillian. She has also been known on Keen.com as "Heather Falls". It appears her "Heather Falls" account has been changed to "A Ray of Light" and then "VisionaryRaysofLight" as indicated.

While many people have apparently reported this woman to various authorities, she is still up and running. This information is to help those looking for her to get to her so that they can be forewarned and also report her accordingly.

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Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 24, 2007

This woman has many aliases. Her real name is Marilyn. I do not know her last name, but know she lives in Banning, California. Some of her numerous online posts say she lives in Malibu. Banning, for anyone's information, is inland from Los Angeles and not near Malibu.

Her many names on the website Keen.com include, and continue to mutate (it appears she can change her identity at will and in a moment): keen.com/VisionaryRaysOfLight, keen.com/Grace Carrington,keen.com/AskLillian. She has also been known on Keen.com as "Heather Falls". It appears her "Heather Falls" account has been changed to "A Ray of Light" and then "VisionaryRaysofLight" as indicated.

While many people have apparently reported this woman to various authorities, she is still up and running. This information is to help those looking for her to get to her so that they can be forewarned and also report her accordingly.

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Grace Carrington also known as VisionaryRaysOfLight on Keen.com

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 24, 2007

This woman has many aliases. Her real name is Marilyn. I do not know her last name, but know she lives in Banning, California. Some of her numerous online posts say she lives in Malibu. Banning, for anyone's information, is inland from Los Angeles and not near Malibu.

Her many names on the website Keen.com include, and continue to mutate (it appears she can change her identity at will and in a moment): keen.com/VisionaryRaysOfLight, keen.com/Grace Carrington,keen.com/AskLillian. She has also been known on Keen.com as "Heather Falls". It appears her "Heather Falls" account has been changed to "A Ray of Light" and then "VisionaryRaysofLight" as indicated.

While many people have apparently reported this woman to various authorities, she is still up and running. This information is to help those looking for her to get to her so that they can be forewarned and also report her accordingly.

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Grace Carrington also known as "A Ray of Light" on Keen.com

AUTHOR: Elizabeth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, May 13, 2007

Grace Carrington aka Heather's Healing Light aka Heather Falls aka Ask Lillian aka Marilyn W of Banning California is known as "A Ray of Light" on Keen.com as well.

I would avoid that person as its the exact same person as Grace Carrington with exactly the same tactics and format.

Grace has personally asked me to send money to her home in southern California (I have the exact address if needed and can provide it, as I got it from customer service at Keen.com when I chatted with one of their customer service people one night and told them.

I'm pretty sure they are not allowed to do this, but they did). It seems that Grace has a certain arrangement with the people at Keen.com customer care because she appears to be immune to the rules; they do not seem to punish her or reprimand her.

I suggest filing a report with the Federal Trade Commission. This is clearly consumer fraud just like the psychic gypsies, which Grace seems to be. Often they go by many names.

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Grace Carrington/Heathers Healing Light/Ask Lillian - complete deceit!

AUTHOR: Vicki - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 09, 2007

I have been directed to this website by several others that have been a victim of Grace Carrington. I have read all of the comments here and I am traumatized by this woman.

Grace aka, Heather and Lillian all on Keen abuses her callers. I am one of them. She has asked me for money and favors off of Keen and I declined. She has also told me she was on the other sites after I found her on Heathers Healing Light. I recognized her voice and all the listings have the same things on them. And the format is like the same.

It was recently brought to my attention that she threatened another advisor on Keen and the proper steps are being taken for her to get the right action taken on her on Keen.

She deceives others and threatens them to do what she asked them to do. She tells them she will do *crazy* things to them if they do not go along. She does not counsel but yells and screams at them. I could not believe how she treated me when I called her.

I was going through a very difficult time and was extremely depressed. She told me to get over it. Thank goodness I do see a therapist also for my depression or I do not know what I would have done to myself after I got off the phone with her.

I right away called my support system and they helped me recover from the call to GRACE.

My concern is that there are many others that do not have that support system.

I did call other advisors on Keen throughtout a 3 month period and during that time I ran into Heathers Healing Light. After talking to her for a few minutes I recognized the voice. At first the voice was disguised then she started to talk differently. I thought to myself is this Grace Carrington??? For I will never forget that dominating voice!

I had to ask and oh my goodness she said "yes, what is it to you!" and started screaming at me within seconds and then told me that she was also Ask Lillian and what the h*** was I going to do about it. I hung up. I reported it to the Keens system.

This person is obviously seriously disturbed. And now to threaten a Advisor on Keen that I have found wonderful counsel with. I feel everyone should know about Grace Carrington. Please stay away from her and beware of her.

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Grace Carrington is indeed Heather Falls aka Heather's Healing Light

AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, April 19, 2007

Grace has told me she is Heather, and I have called both and they are the same person, so it's pointless to argue the obvious. I have checked my sources and Grace Carrington is also known as Marilyn W. and lives in Banning, California but works exclusively on the internet.

This is the information garnered from an investigation that was done by the police on this woman. Banning isn't very far, from the map, from Beaumont. So there's no Colorado Springs at all. It's a lie, just like everything else "Grace Carrington" says. I can prove everything I am saying, and do not mind doing so. Please keep up the lies.

Others will find this report and list their own. I've met other victims of Grace Carrington and know how to contact them. I've encouraged them to do the same as many others have done: reported her to the authorities and posted something here.

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Heathers+Healing+Light IS MY WIFE & Colorado Springs, CO we've lived HERE ALWAYS!!

AUTHOR: Antonio - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 18, 2007

Grace is honest! I'm MARRIED to Heather! Regarding keen.com/Heathers+Healing+Light
Heather IS MY WIFE! WE LIVE IN Colorado Springs ALWAYS!

My name is Antonio Garcia. I am MARRIED TO Heather. We live in Colorado Springs, CO and we have never traveled to Calif.!!!!

Lady, you have picked on the WRONG people. I am writing this rebuttal for a purpose. I NEED to set the record straight on these lies you put forth about my wife. I don't know who you are but I don't want to know someone who is so sick. (no wonder your relationships are rocky)

My wife happens to guide so many into the light of healing. She does this service on Keen.com network under the member name of Heathers Healing Light. Since she ALSO happens to be the light of MY life - I am glad to defend her from your weird stalking and sick lies. She has too much class rush to her own defense or to post anything here. Also she said she didn't want to give it energy. She is busy instead guided by God to help others heal from their pain so Heather doesn't want to give this site any attention.

For the record - My wife has spoken with Grace and she does live in CA but nowhere even Close to EVEN the COUNTY you mentioned (wrong County!). Grace USED TO have all of that information printed RIGHT ON HER LISTING for all to see and her regulars know it, but she deleted that info - so NOW we ALL KNOW WHY she deleted it! So by the fact that you got the WHOLE REGION WRONG plus OUR location wrong, this tells me that you HAD NEVER gotten ripped off by Grace Carrington at all. It is not my place to say which region of the State Grace resides in but you are way off (on so many levels)! ANYONE could have checked that out FOR THEMSELVES because it was POSTED right ON her listing page!!! Everyone could have seen the REAL LOCATION so you don't know it. WOW...you must not have even looked for it???! Heather knows Grace works in spiritual light because she has talked with so many of Grace's VERY SAME customers! As a matter of fact, they refer customers to each other all the time because my wife sponsors her group so many psychics are listed on it and they refer customers to advisors within this group titled "Angels in my Lighthouse" all the time!

You are so bitter from your own relationship failures which you do admit to even in your own post. Lady, you need serious counseling so you can stop blaming others for your addiction to calling psychics spending the kind of money you do on that. If it was true what you say about Grace Carrington then why don't you simply turn her in to the authorities yourself. You have already put it out in public here so you might as well tell the authorities. I see by your lies that you couldn't possibly have proof of what you say because you didn't get any information right except where you say that you might be insane. You need to forgive yourself and move past the guilt to learn that mistakes are only tools to learn a better way. Know that we do pray for your healing.

May we all pray for the tragically sick minds of stalkers. Pray also for the tragic massacres at our Nation's fine learning institutions today!

Truth in Light,

Antonio

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