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Report: #682614

Complaint Review: Greg Hall - Heber City Utah

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  • Greg Hall 520 N. Main Ste 405 Heber City, Utah United States of America

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Do not believe anything that comces out of this mans mouth. His "Terms And Conditions" on the back of contract will excuse him from everything he claims verbally that he will do. KICK HIM OUT!!!!!!.

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#19 Author of original report

This Is So Familiar

AUTHOR: J H - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, March 26, 2011

Greg, Have you dismissed the problem you have with me? I havent seen a refund yet! What is going on? I tried to call you and all I have ever got is your answering machine advising me to reread my contract. Have you gone back to your deceptive ways?  Do I need to do some detective work to find out where you live so that we may discuss the matter face to face. That seemed to work for the last victim. So what do you say?

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#18 Author of original report

Clean Sweep?

AUTHOR: J H - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, March 04, 2011

So Greg, How about a clean sweep here. I am still out my $300.00. Is it on the way?

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#17 Consumer Comment

Money returned.

AUTHOR: garagedoorsonly - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 02, 2011

Money returned today. Thank you for doing the right thing.

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#16 REBUTTAL Owner of company

FOR THE RECORD............

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, February 27, 2011

For the record:
You stated in your last post that the Sheriff said that we had made false statements. Afterwhich we called him. His response: "No true. I don't even talk like that and I did not even get a statement from your wife." Also, he wants to be in court to tell the judge himself that what you posted was no true.

Futhermore, on your last post you stated that "my own attorney" told you that I asked him to call and "threaten you." Afterwhich we called him also. His response: "That doesn't even make sense, this guy is not honest."
At this point I must point out once again to whomever is reading this:

In our advertising contract we never guarantee anything we cannot control. That is why it reads the way it does. If you have a problem, approach me in a professional manner and I will do whatever I can to help you. We have been helping customers since 1983 and have no problem if you are decent in the way you approach things.

The Garage door guy came to my home late at night, talking about how he had to make himself leave his gun at home. He went on to demand a refund trying to tell me that he had 72 hours to cancel. Which you do not by law in a business to business agreement. He went on to futher try to convince me that a check could not be made out to me, which by law it can. He also went on ranting about my address. The reality of it is, I don't need someone like him at my door in the middle of the night. He brought his young children, trying to play that card telling me he was 6 months behind on his Mortgage. He tryed every trick in the book. Bottom line he was trying to bully. Wrong approach with me. (just be nice) That's why my attorney was asked to call him and explain the law.

This customer has lied about me, the sheriff and my attorney now. We have attorneys, police and others documenting each post he is making. It will only take a minute in court to show the judge that he's been dishonest since the minute he started this harrassment and string of lies.We look forward to setting the record straight. And yes, he agreed on the back of his contract that we would be entitled to recover our attorney fees in the event legal action in any way is needed to defend this contract. Which we will, if this ends up in court. (read #15 Mr. Garage Door guy)

Bottom line: The law is clear on such things as harrassment and other types of things which he is doing. I am sure he will post more lies. Remember, consider the source.In the event he wants to calm down, we have no problem running his ad, and working with him in the future to make sure he feels he got his moneys worth, but right now he is digging a hole for himself with our local law enforcement and a firm with over 15 attorneys who are friends with John Buckley. One of the most honest, kind and thoughtful attorneys which I have ever had the pleasure to deal with.

I want to thank our sheriff and my attorney for their help and apologize for this customer wasting their time.Have a great week and let's try to get along. Otherwise just like your credit card or mortgage agreement, mine will stand. It has for 28 years.  Thank-you.    Greg

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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thanx-you Jack!

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, February 26, 2011

Thank-you for your last comments. I am sorry that things got so out of hand, as I can see you are also. I know you work hard for your money, as we all do. I never would have taken your money if you had not agreed to the terms. As with most contracts, they can be harsh. I felt that you knew what you had agreed to and understood the conditions. By the time I drove 300 miles round trip and did the work you asked me to do I was angry when you tried to back out. I have built my business on trust and being very black and white. I honor my agreements and expect others to honor theirs.
If you would have approached me last year as you have today, things would have turned out different. The next time I am in your area I would like to stop in and take you to lunch and start over. I too, work hard for my money and respect you for the hard work you do.
I look forward to seeing you again. Thanks again,  Greg

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#14 Author of original report

You have to ask yourself!!

AUTHOR: J H - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, February 26, 2011

 

Greg. By now you have to be asking yourself, "What am I doing wrong".  I guess you’re first indication should be when your customers are "up in arms mad" at you. Don’t you get it? A satisfied customer is what a business owner strives for. Speaking for myself, I will loose money on deals to make sure my customers are happy and would give me a positive review to friends and family. Don’t you hope for repeat business?  People do business with people they know and trust. Are you building trust with people?   
                                                                                                                                                   
Isn’t it coincidental that you have accused the people who are posting here all for Twisting Things Around? Maybe we are just expecting the things that you verbally described to us. I am sure that is why you rely so heavily on your "Contract". It helps you take advantage of people legally. Yes I did read your contract line by line. The things I was looking for were phrases that would obligate me to an automatic renewal.  Unfortunately I did not catch the parts that dismissed the WHOLE verbal presentation.  

I think most business owners would rather have a satisfied customer than a good-signed contract.  And finally, I am crying over being taken for $300.00. I have to work hard for my money too. Do the right thing.
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#13 Consumer Comment

I guess we will see you in court

AUTHOR: garagedoorsonly - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, February 26, 2011

I guess you can watch for a summons jack wagon.

PS.. the only fees for small claims is paid on my end, then I can charge it to you after I win, and you won't have an atty to hind behind either.

you might want to double check what me and your atty have discussed before posting things.

He also notified me that you asked him to threaten me.. nice try. 

channel 2 should be on your trail soon also. 

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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT......(IT MIGHT HELP)

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, February 26, 2011

For the record:

Fact #1: When you came to my door you were told we "we have been working on your proof" and yes, I have a witness to that. And you have a recording of that fact.
Fact #2: While at my door you said "it was all I could do to make myself leave my gun at home"
Fact #3: After many threats and demands, you got more angry as you saw that I was not going to "let you break the contract." (That'a what a contract is for)
Fact #4: After you left the Sheriff personally saw your proof (yes, it was done)
Fact #5: Due to your threats all concerned felt it was best that your proof be mailed to you (in case you had your gun with you upon proof showing in person)
Fact #6: The contract says that we shall "provide" a proof, nothing says it had to be in person
Fact #7: You told my attorney that the reason you had not received the proof was because the address you have on your invoice is not an address that you really get mail at. That anything mailed to you was forwarded to a P.O. Box in another city, and that is why you had not received it. Therefore, we have now sent another proof certified mail.
Fact #8: No 'solicitors license" is a vaild complaint. A requirment that we were not aware of. The city has been contacted by my attorney and has informed us that it is a mere "infraction" and that a warning would be issued. The worst case, a citation. Not per business as you suggested.
Fact #9:After the sheriff spoke with you, he called me. Telling me that he still had no idea why ou were so mad. He also told me that you told him that your threats would cease. (they haven't)
There was no "false statement"
Fact #10; My attorney really told you was that a. you cannot cancel your contract b. it is legal to make a check out to me.
Fact #11: During the phone call you gave him the real address of you post office box where the proof could reach you (it was sent certified)
Fact #12: Feel free to take me to small claims court. There a judge will explain the law, and will be able to hear how you have tryed everything you could to twist the truth. There also, I will file a counter claim for attorneys fees. 

If you want any other response from me, get it in court. Have a nice day.

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#11 Consumer Comment

JH, WestHaven,

AUTHOR: garagedoorsonly - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, February 25, 2011

JH, my company number is 801-404-1200, call me monday, I have alot of information that might be helpful.

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#10 Consumer Comment

John Buckley, Atty for Mr Greg Hall

AUTHOR: garagedoorsonly - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 25, 2011

Greg, your own attorney, Mr John Buckley, has discussed alot with me over the past week, and the interesting thing about "slander, etc." is that the CONTENT has to be lies in order to qualify as SLANDER or DEFAMATION in a court of law.  You forget, I have witnessess on every discussion you and I have had.  You, on the other hand, don't.  I have a recorded conversation between you and I, I played it for the Wasatch county Sherriff that you called on me, his statement to me was "Mr Greg Hall and His wife have provided false statements against me, and the report will reflect that". 

Also, you are being investigated by the Spanish Fork Police Department.  You have solicited businesses in Spanish Fork and Payson without complying with city ordinances.  You are required to submit an application and have a background check done prior to soliciting anyone or any business within the city limits, each offense (meaning each business you have solicited) is chargeable with fines and possible criminal offense charges. 

Finally, you broke my contract by not showing up on Tuesday, at 10am -11am, with my so called proofs to review, today is friday, still no package in the mail.  And even if it did show up, no where in our contract does it show that you have that option to "mail" the proofs.  You have broken the contract.  I notified you in person, at your residence (since you have no real place of business) within 6 hours of signing, that I wanted to break the contract.  At that time, you stated the proofs were not done.  You supposedly hurried up and sent them saturday? 

I suggest you humble yourself, make things right, and get on with it.  You will not win against me.

Your attorney has informed me of his suggestions to you.  You obviously haven't taken your own Atty's advice. 

If my money is not returned, in the amount of $450, you will be summoned to small claims court in Payson.  I have notified them of your soliciting without a license and another company in Payson has come forward and stated that you solicited them last week also. 

Man UP.  Eternal progression isn't worth $450.  You have made covenants to be "honest in your dealings with your fellow man", live up to them.

JH, from West Haven, look me up online, garage doors only, santaquin, I'm not hard to find.  Feel free to call me next week at my office.  James.

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#9 Consumer Comment

little girl

AUTHOR: anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 24, 2011

Greg. you are full of threats. threatening is all you can do. don't call one a cry baby when you you cant stand up for yourself and take threats like a man your solution to everything is call your attorney you are not a real man Greg. you are a little girl.

 you like to wear hott pink mini skirts when no one is looking and call yourself candy. oh?? my gosh did i  just say something mean??? call your attorney little girl. run away go tell on me.

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

My lawsuit against you is the only thing building steam :O)

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

You think you are so clever leaving an "anonymous" feedback, trying to make it look like someone other than you has complained. At least you spelled the words right this time, in your "anonymous" post. I have to wonder if as a child you cryed so much when things didn't go your way. The BBB closed your case, there is nothing you can do to bully the legal system, so still you sit there crying over spilt milk. Why don't you tell everyone how you were the one who had me do work for you, then RIPPED ME OFF by not paying your bill in full. Maybe, you should tell them about how you read each and every item under "TERMS AND CONDITIONS" and still had no idea what it meant. (Low comprehension skills in 3rd grade I'm assuming?)
You are nothing more than a big crybaby who, when you don't get you way, continue to cry until someone listens.
It's going to be fun to watch you cry in front of the judge. Do me a favor and act like it's not coming, because it is.
You have committed a lot of actions which are not legal. You, I promise will be held accountable. I think it's time for me to post some info on you, your business dealings with me and a warning to people to stay away from you and your business on RIP OFF REPORT. It will be interesting to see what a "honest" report does to your business as people look you up trying to decide if they should deal with you. 
So, keep the reports coming. The lawsuit against you is the only thing building steam..........:O) (crybaby!)

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#7 Author of original report

Building Steam

AUTHOR: J H - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Greg. Thats 3 unsatisfied customers. They all seem to have had similar issues with you. It appears this report may be getting a head of steam. Maybe the best thing for you to do at this point Greg, is to try and make it right with us. You know that you are not ethical in your dealings. Why not start today and try doing the right thing.  (PS hey garagedoorsonly, I would be interested in the info you have on Greg for myself. He is a little slippery when it comes time to look him up.)

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#6 General Comment

BE ACCOUNTABLE that your ripping everyone off

AUTHOR: anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Gregs contract states that he does not have to do anything he tells you.  his contract protects him from everything. when Greg comes in he does not show you this contract until done and signed and its to late.  grow up Greg

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT YOU AGREE TO!

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 22, 2011

This is very simple. This customer agreed to certain terms and conditions and then was not willing to live by the terms he agreed to. We honor our agreements and expect others to honor theirs as well.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

BE ACCOUNTABLE!! READ YOUR AGREEMENT!!

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 22, 2011

Grow up and stop the slander, defamation etc... If not, a judge on a much larger scale will see to it that you are Mr. Customer.

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#3 Author of original report

RIP OFF ARTIST II

AUTHOR: J H - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 18, 2011

Well well, I see you found my report. I wonder if Rip Off Report is on your list of things to check every day. Mr. Hall, I promise you that if you had half as many people that think you are honest and trustworthy as I do, we would not be sending these nasty remarks of each other.  If your contract indeed reflected the same thing that you verbally presented, we would not have a problem.  One more thing, The Better Business Bureau says this    " Out of Business According to information in BBB files, this company is no longer in business. If you have an unresolved dispute with this company you may wish to seek legal advice"  Go ahead Mr.Hall send your leagle team. Once I talk to them, I think the only one that may be in trouble is YOU.

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#2 Consumer Comment

RIP OFF ARTIST

AUTHOR: garagedoorsonly - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 18, 2011

Greg, you son of b****, you will be hearing from me and the payson PD.. you have one chance to return my $450.. on chance only.  I have your license plat number, your DL # and I will be after you.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

VERY DISHONEST CLIENT (We've all had them)

AUTHOR: Greg Hall - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, January 28, 2011

This customer would not pay his bill in full. He read and understood both the front and back of the agreement before signing. The customer is upset because he could not force a refund of the partial payment he made. Nothing more than a person who is not accountable for his actions. Our attorney has been sent a copy of his report for legal action to be taken for slander, defamation and libel. Next time Mr. Customer, only agree to terms you can honor!

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