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- Gulf Coast Processing Inc. 2585 140th st. clearwater, Florida United States of America
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The Free Cruise
We've seen spokesmodel
Carmen Electra touting free cruises on TV, received the award booklet mailing
(with its official-looking stamps of approval from The Islands of the Bahamas,
Alamo and Our Lucaya Beach & Golf Resort) and discovered the offer while browsing the
Web. We're told that collecting our free cruise is easy: Call an 800 number,
or fill out a form, and it's time for two nights of zero-cost cruising.
Naturally, "scam" might be the first thing that comes to mind with such
an offer. And it quickly becomes apparent that the * means it's not actually
free. It'll cost you a minimum of $59 per person for government fees and port
taxes. There's nothing necessarily untoward here; the government taxes and fees
are clearly stated, and $59 per person for a two-night Bahamas cruise -- which includes
accommodations, all meals, entertainment and a call at Grand Bahama Island --
still seems like a decent deal for a quick getaway.
Still, people have
had serious complaints when trying to book the offer, ranging from confusion
about which company is making the offer (Caribbean Cruise Lines, which sends the
deal, or Celebration Cruise Line,
which operates the ships) to forced timeshare pitches and misleading pricing.
Cruise Critic did some research, including attempting to book a cruise, to help
you determine whether the offer is a scam or a good deal.
First, a bit
of background:
Who is Caribbean Cruise Line,
Anyway?
Let's clear up a key point of confusion right away.
Celebration Cruise Line is the actual name of the line on which you'll be
sailing. Caribbean Cruise Line is not a cruise line at all, but the name
of a wholesaler that's touting the free cruise. But, the difference between line
and wholesaler seems to be blurry at best, with many, many complaints on sites
like Cruise Critic, complaintsboard.com and ripoffreport.com conflating line and
seller. It doesn't help that each has a telegenic spokesmodel -- Daisy Fuentes
for Celebration and Carmen Electra for Caribbean.
As a travel
wholesaler, Caribbean Cruise Line is licensed and bonded in the State of
Florida, "Fla. Seller of Travel Reg. No. ST-37425." (Though, there are timeshare
marketing outposts in locations where the company is registered; for instance,
in New Jersey, it's registered by the New Jersey Real Estate Commission.)
Regardless of the official license, the charges against Caribbean Cruise Lines
have been fast and furious -- consumers have had difficulties getting refunds,
been subjected to aggressive sales tactics, discovered that salespeople had
misrepresented cabin locations -- and many equate the two companies or confuse
one for the other.
Angelina from Pennsylvania, who booked an
extended-stay vacation after seeing Carmen Electra touting the cruise on TV,
told us a horror story, which included more than five hours of timeshare
presentations that they were not told they'd have to attend. "You have to go, or
you will not be allowed to get on the cruise ship if you don't," said Angelina.
Florida's Division of Consumer Services has record of at least 40
complaints, the content of which we've yet to receive in the form of a public
record request. Moreover, the Better Business Bureau gives Caribbean Cruise Line
and "F" -- and the BBB has documented 459 complaints filed against business, 396
of which have been considered resolved. Still, according to a spokesperson at
the Florida Attorney General's Office, the body responsible for responding in
earnest to those consumer complaints, no official investigation has been opened
or closed on Caribbean Cruise Line.
Celebration Cruise Line, meanwhile,
debuted in March 2009 as the newest player in the bustling South Florida cruise
market. The line offers two-night budget cruises out of Palm Beach to the
Bahamas aboard its recently converted ferry, Bahamas Celebration. It's the first
cruise line to offer multiday sailings out of the Florida port since 1996,
according to the port authority.
Celebration Cruise Line is filling the
void left by Imperial Majesty Cruise Line, a similarly budget-minded,
first-timer offering -- and one that also relied on the free cruise timeshare
pitch to help fill its only ship. IMCL ceased operations in March 2009. (In
fact, Celebration's parent company is Fort Lauderdale-based Celebration Cruise
Holdings, which previously owned Regal Empress and chartered it out to Imperial
Majesty Cruise Line. Read more about the connection between IMCL and
CCL.)
Collecting Our Free Cruise: What
Happened When We Called?
I grabbed the awards booklet that came
in the mail from Caribbean Cruise Line and called to go through the process.
Here's what I found:
I
reached Jerry Porter, who told me the conversation was being recorded to make
sure he didn't "promise me a trip around the world on the Queen Mary." Jerry
went on to clearly state that I would be responsible for the payment upfront at
the time of the call and that I'd have to book now or lose out on this
exceptional offer. He asked me if I had my credit card handy. Expecting my total
to be $118, port and government fees for two people, it was actually $217 --
Jerry had, by default, tried to sell me an upgraded oceanview cabin
instead of the cheapest cabin available. Jerry didn't tell me until I asked, but
there is also a $10 per person, per day, fee for gratuities, which is
automatically added to your onboard bill. It's a standard practice for cruise
lines, but it's not something that first-timers would necessarily know.
After my second
question, I was transferred to the supervisor. No one was particularly
rude, but the sales people stayed strictly on script. I had additional questions
and was given the number for the corporate office -- or, rather, "Travel
Services," a fulfillment center.
A woman who answered the phone and identified herself
as Tanesha provided information about Celebration Cruise Line and
Caribbean Cruise Line, stating that the companies were one and the same. She
said that the promotional department, Caribbean Cruise Line, handles the free
cruise giveaways and the extended-stay vacation packages, and the cruise line,
Celebration Cruise Line, sells cruises and cruise-stay packages.
Again,
according to Celebration Cruise Line spokesman Glenn Ryserson, there is no
connection; they are two separate businesses.
I tried calling a different free cruise 800 number I
found on the Internet. The drill was the same. On the second attempt, additional
questions were met with a curt, "We're instructed to send you to the Web site,"
and then they hung up on me.
For the next week, I received at least three phone
calls a day from the wholesalers. When I picked up, I heard a recorded message
touting Caribbean Cruise Line.
Booking Directly
Through the Line: A Different Tune
Attempting to book directly
through the line was a different story. I was quoted $199 per person for an
oceanview cabin. With port and government fees and auto-gratuities, which are
collected onboard, the total came to $269.92 per person. (A number of readers on
the Cruise Critic message boards have noted that they've had to pay the fuel
surcharge as recently as April. It's $9 per person, per day. I asked the sales
woman directly, but was told there were no fuel surcharges. Ryerson confirmed
that the company's policy was currently not to charge surcharges.)
That's $540 total -- quite a bit more than the $217 I was quoted by the
wholesaler.
More Hidden Costs from the Free
Cruise Offer? The Timeshare Pitch
OK, so there's a savings
potential, to be sure. But, there's yet another potential catch. On the back of
the mailing, we spotted this statement: "Promotion requires the attendance at a
presentation on the sale of independent vacation ownership resorts." The fine
print continues, clarifying the company's intent: "The advertising material is
being used for the purpose of soliciting sales of a vacation ownership plan." In
other words, the "free cruise" is the lure to get you to buy a timeshare.
And yet, on the two separate calls made to two different 800 numbers --
one received in the mail and one found online -- I was told that, in booking the
cruise-only portion, I would not have to attend a timeshare presentation.
At least a few Cruise Critic members have posted slightly different
stories. "I received my cruise confirmation from Celebration in the mail
yesterday for our April 24 sailing. Of course it says we must go to Fort Lauderdale to pick up our
vouchers prior to boarding in Palm Beach," writes member TracyESQ on the
message boards. Others have confirmed that the post-payment booking packet that
arrives in the mail directs passengers to a "welcome center," rather than to the
Palm Beach pier (or an online location) to pick up their boarding passes.
To confuse matters, some readers have noted that, after calling the
cruise line directly, they were told to proceed right to the pier and bypass the
"welcome center." Definitely follow the instructions of the wholesaler, says
Celebration's Vice President-Marketing Glenn Ryerson, an official spokesman for
the line -- again, the real name of which is Celebration Cruise Line, not
Caribbean Cruise Line. "We wouldn't want you to come to the pier and be unable
to board."
In a telephone conversation, Ryerson aimed to distinguish
Celebration Cruise Line from Caribbean Cruise Line. Ryerson tells Cruise Critic,
"There is no free cruise offer from Celebration Cruise Line and never has been.
A few wholesale companies may be promoting it as part of a package, the same as
with most other cruise lines."
So what does the line say about how
Caribbean conducts business? "I know that they do go up there with a taxes-only
cruise with the goal of selling a bigger package."
And those wholesalers
are very important to Celebration. Ryerson mentions that that some 30 percent of
passengers get onboard by way of wholesalers like Caribbean Cruise Line.
"What we do with every customer on the ship, whether they come through a
wholesaler or directly through us -- we don't care how they get on the ship --
we only care once they get onboard that the experience is a very positive one,
and 98 percent of the comments are positive. We haven't had the need to talk to
any business partners. From what I understand, these people are getting on the
ship for taxes only, and they would have never experienced a cruise otherwise.
The salespeople are earning commissions, and some of the people might be a
little more aggressive, but I definitely don't think they're disreputable in any
way."
But does the cruise line have rules that wholesalers must follow
when selling the brand?
"The only guideline for selling the cruises is
that if someone is promised a completely difference experience than was actually
experienced -- then we have a problem but there have not been any red flags
from our standpoint, and people are getting as much, if not more, than they
expected."
For its part, Celebration Cruise Line is accredited by the
Better Business Bureau, and has a rating of A-. Yet, the line is not without its own unusual
business practices, such as its fuel surcharge policy. The line reserves the
right to reinstate fuel surcharges of $9 per person, per day, if the price of
crude exceeds $40 per barrel -- a price at which oil hasn't been close to in
years. All other mainstream lines put the threshold at $65 or $70. And, it seems
that passengers have actually been paying the fuel fees in the recent past,
perhaps unknowingly. According to Ryerson, the line now "rolls everything into
the cost into the cruise, while we had, in the past, had a separate fuel
surcharge."
The Take Away
What we
can say at this point is this: Do your research as to the product being sold,
sight unseen. Read reviews of the ship on sites like Cruise Critic. Understand
that the ship is a converted Baltic ferry, this is a mass-market cruise
experience, and you will likely get a small inside cabin, perhaps set up with
bunk beds, if you pay the minimum $59 per person. It must be said that companies
like Caribbean Cruise Line have successfully booked thousands of cabins for
Celebration. Many passengers have shared their stories on Cruise Critic's Celebration Cruise
Line forum.
The Web site for the Florida Attorney General also
offers sound advice. Before deciding on any vacation certificate arrangement,
you should always call the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer
Services at 1-800-435-7352 to determine whether the company is registered, how
long it has been in business and whether there are any complaints against it.
Further, "Do not give your credit card number to anyone over the telephone
unless you initiated the call and are sure that the company's offer is
legitimate."
In terms of consumer protection, Florida statute says that
you have a right to cancel your purchase and receive a refund within 30 days of
the date of purchase or receipt of the vacation certificate, whichever occurs
later. You may also have the right to cancel at anytime if the accommodations or
facilities are not available pursuant to a request for use provided in the
contract if certain statutory terms and conditions are met. You must advise the
seller in writing of your wish to cancel, and include the certificate. The
seller has 30 days from the time of receipt of your notice of cancellation to
send you a full refund.
Still, you may have to fight for the refund, as
one Cruise Critic reader points out. "After lots of phone calls and arguing,"
Evaluator posts, "we got a full refund from Caribbean Cruise Lines ....
We have been on too many good cruises with Royal Caribbean to take a
chance on this company at this time. Maybe later, after the Bahamas Celebration
has been operating out of Palm Beach for a much longer time, we would
reconsider. And then we would only book direct with Celebration. Good luck to
those that choose this line."
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