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Complaint Review: Hunter Bailey - Nationwide

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Hunter Bailey O'Connor Marketing PYRAMID SCHEME TRICK YOUNG GRADUATES INTO BELIEVING THIS IS A MARKETING JOB Syndey, Brisbane, Melbourne Nationwide

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They are a pyramid scheme that have successful brainwashed young people who hope to get into marketing without any qualifications or previous experience. Essentially the job is to sell raffle tickets to other people at work in shops, cafes, restaurants and other businesses. They don't actually tell you this until you are on your trial day "shadowing" a leader who has done your job for a couple weeks and is now trying to convince as many people as possible to do this job so they can move up in the company and get a percent of your "sales." The owner Ronon O'Connor has multiple different businesses under the same name. I found a few similar ones on the internet O'connor marketing, Be Interactive and Hunter Bailey. 

They have multiple adverts on various websites. They ADVERTISE like this:

Hunter Bailey is an up and coming Sales and Promotions company, specialising in Event and Business campaigns! Based on Kent Street, Sydney, we are in the heart of Sydney's busy and bustling city culture, close to public transport and surrounded by amazing cafes, restaurants and the always amazing Darling Harbour!

You Will Be Involved In:

- Face to face customer interaction

- The development and improvement of new and existing promotional strategies

- The sales and marketing on behalf of our client

- The set up and execution of promotional events


If you're eager to start a career here in Australia, or just looking to earn some $$ while you travel, apply today!!
We are looking for people to start as soon as possible so get in quick!"

You get a call like immediately after you apply and are asked to come for an interview.

The INTERVIEW:

You arrive and speak to the receptionist and are seated with about 8 other people applying for the same job. There is pop music, everyone is under 30, no one actually has "experience" in marketing. You wait and have a 10 minute interview and then get a call later saying how impressed they were with your interview (it was 10 minutes long and not much was disscussed so you are slighty confused) they ask you to return the next day for a trianing day where they can teach you all about their marketing campaigns and their company. They don't really explain what the job entails. They use of lot of jargon and their website is vague. They never actually allude to their clients or any "concrete" work.

The Second Round:

You turn up for your first day at 8 am and wait again in the waiting room with a surprising number of newbies who all made it to the "second round". You are expecting to be in the office all day so you can learn these marketing stratedgies and all about the company. Instead you are assigned to a team leader who is also young and not actually had a job in marketing before this one. In fact no one has. You are told to follow her for work in the "feild". After signing a contract to say this is a training day and you won't recieve pay. You are told you are going to meet the clients but there are not actual meetings set up. You follow your leader to the assigned area (either public transport or you get in the car drive of your leader and drive an hour out of sydney) and are then explained that you are going to walk into all the businesses in one area (shops, cafes, pubs, resturants, lawyers offices, dentists, doctors, car repair warehouses etc.) and try sell raffle tickets to the people who are working in these buinesses. 

Everyone dresses smart and you are taught all the "right" words so you sound like you are professional and a real embassador. The raffle tickets are for a "real charity" so you say you are from the charity (prevents the marketing company from getting a bad name). You shadow your leader all day 8:30-5:30. He or She buys you lunch and is nice to you but thats only becuase they are making money off you helping them make sales and they really want you to stay so that they can move up the ladder faster. At lunch they explain the 4 tear process. This is a great job because you can advance to a manager position in only a couple months. You sell these raffle tickets everyday (at least 20 people need to buy per day out of the 200 people you have to pester). You get 28 percent and then you become a leader and "manage" 10 -15 newbies like myself and try your best to convince them to do the job so you can get a percent of their sales and like that you work your way up. The more people you convince and manage, the more money you make because you get a percent on everyone you recruit. Supposedly in one year you will open your own office and won't have to ever work on the feild again and just profit from all the other young and naive 20 somethings getting recruited.

THIS JOB IS HONESTLY TERRIBLE. Because its so negative on everyones mental health, they have these games in the morning where everyone is shouting and doing chants in their teams to psyc themesleves up. On the three days I was there, there were people getting interviewed and recruited everyday and then doing their training days without pay (basically an endless free workforce) and everyday at 8 am people where clapping, shouting and getting roudy to try convince themesleves that today they could go back out onto the feild and manipulate another 20 people into buying raffle tickets.

Everyone is smiling and no one is allowed to say anything negative. They all actually are brainwashed into believing this is a real marketing job. This is worse than the people standing on the streets asking for your money because you are actually walking into businesses UNINVITED and forcing yourselves upon them. You are well dressed and look professional and speak all the "right words" but it is honestly so unprofessional. You even push infront of customers at a coffee shop or cafe and ask the employer who is earning minimum wage (while they are mid service to give you attention instead of the people who are waiting in line to get served). And then if you can you try twist the arm of the manager to let you approacjh people who are eating their lunch at the resturant.  At one point I was opening doors to business's that don't even allow anyone to just walk off the street and intrude into their office space and then having to pitch this to more than 10 people sitting behind their screens looking at me like I was crazy.

I had business owners get very aggressive with me because "we go there so often" (my leader assured me they were all lying). I highly doubt it. Essentially you are walking into places where people are trying to do their job and then putting pressure on them to buy raffle tickets (the cheapest is 30 dollars for 10 tickets which is ridiculous because everyone has to buy 10 tickets minimum so its like saying one ticket.)

You are taught all these "ice breakers" when approaching people at work and are supposed to manipulate them into being your friend before you even tell them who you are or what you are selling so you can convince them to shell out money. And even the other emploees use these ice breakers on you to introduce themselves. Its so weird they all say the same sentences. In fact you are not even an employee, (you are considered a contractor). You can leave at any moment and they can fire you at any moment for obvious reasons. Most of the people are not Australian (they are here on working holiday visas from England and Ireland and France and other countries so they are more easily manipulated.) The only criteria is really that you look like very clean and smart and you are a smooth talker. Over the day they might throw at you some marketing straedgies and tell you to write them down just to pretend like its a marketing job. They are things like "The Law of Averages" sifting the positives through the negatives or the 5 steps of conversation or how to use fear, urgency, greed and other negative emotions to get someone to buy something.

At the very least they could advertise the job for what it is. Instead of manipulating young people into wasting their time and money and then managing to keep some there under false pretences. I am honestly worried about the mental health of some of the employees who have been there for a while (at least the ones who are the "leaders" and who have been working there between 1-8 months). They are manipulating them and it will have affects on them later in life. They are so good at this scam and trick its almost a real job. 

Obviously after your second round if you manage to make it through you are congratulated and given the job and your leader is so happy and you begin the next day. You are given a tour of the office and shown all these photos of your colleges having fun and getting awards and charts which show who is making the most sales and then the biographies on the managers and all this stuff which tries to make the company "credible." If you have never worked in an office before (like everyone there) then you will 100 percent believe that its a real office and a real compnay. Some people actually manage to do this for weeks or months. They have award ceremonies and lots of prizes all the time to keep your morale up. The main boss interacts with you and they have staff nights every thursday. They constantly tell you how everyone is amazing and there is an open door policy so you can talk to any of the VP's and all of them started at the bottom and so the lie continues. 

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