• Report: #771916
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  • Submitted: Thu, September 01, 2011
  • Updated: Sun, April 29, 2012

  • Reported By: RIPPED PENNY — United States of America
Internet United States of America

icloudcenter stolen source code for HIGH prices, Internet

*Consumer Comment: Reputation fixing

*Consumer Comment: iclodcenter is a total rippoff & a scam!

*Consumer Comment: Maybe the problem is that...

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Nash wants to buy our script to resell

*Author of original report: now extremely overpriced!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The source code is our original code

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I bought code from icloudcenter.com for a penny auction website.

At that time the code was advertised for $99.00 (it ha since gone up to $499.00) and was claimed to be original code. And that a refund could happen if not satisfied. Site page has been rewritten since removing the promise of refund! (new page is:)


I never installed the scripts. I had issues after I unpacked the scripts and noticed several SwooPo logos inside the subfolders. I requested a refund but they insisted I had installed the software and that they had given me "tech support" so I could not return it. I complained to Discover and they lied to discover and managed to keep their $99.00

They refused to answer my questions about where the swoopo logos came from. Save your money and do not trade with this site! There is cheaper and even free software out there!

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#1 Consumer Comment

Reputation fixing

AUTHOR: nebzero - (Czech Republic)

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#2 Consumer Comment

iclodcenter is a total rippoff & a scam!

AUTHOR: JRoll - (United States of America)

I unfortunately am also a victim of icloudcenter and their software scam.  I am embarrassed that I even read the 3 other complaints about this company and still decided to try their product.  I thought to myself, maybe these people were just unlucky, or just those type of people who complain.  I run a business, and I know you cant please everyone.

That being said, this is definitely not the case in this situation.  They sell you open source freeware scripts, with a slight modification to add their company logo to it.  The scripts are out of date, and are full of bugs.  I bought several scripts at once, installed them on different servers, and they all had the exact same bugs.  They know about the bugs, but want you to pay them to fix them, even though they claim they offer full support of their scripts for free for 90 days.

Its a 2 man show, with Alexander as the salesman, and Chana as the programmer.  They are based in Israel, so being in the US, their hours are not good, they are only available from 2am to 8am EST.  They tell you to pay them anytine you find a new error with the script, and they get very rude if yo disagree with them.

The biggest issue I find is that they claim these scripts are original, made ny them, the problem is that if they wrote them, then they are terrible programmers, since they are full of bugs.  the reason I doubt they wrote them is because they dont even know how to fix the issues that come up.  I ended up hiring a local NJ company to rewrite thei script.

Also, the penny auction script database code is written poorly, and the site will crash if you get more than 20 people on your site at one time, learned this the hard way.

Avoid Icloudcenter at all costs, they are a total scam.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Maybe the problem is that...

AUTHOR: boysha - (Canada)

this Alexander person is a crook, because he robbed me for $69 with faulty script.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Nash wants to buy our script to resell

AUTHOR: hits0025 - (United States of America)

Nash is Russian speaking guy from New Zealand. He is going to buy our script (we speak already 1 week about it) so he knows well that our script is better...Dear report after, if you want people to believe you at least you should tell your name...
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#5 Author of original report

now extremely overpriced!

AUTHOR: RIPPED PENNY - (United States of America)

When I bought their NASH SOFTWARE CODE RIPOFF they only overcharged me 89.99! They now want $499.99 for the same crappy ripoff but they have made an attempt to make thir LOOK more like Nash's scripts! Nash's script only cost me $19.99 and has much better support and is more reachable and does not seem susceptible to the PHP drill attack that lets people cheat on this auction software!

Additionally the line about stealing their code is a tired one and one they overuse to claim against you. The original page had a money back guarantee and that has been removed with the new prices!

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

The source code is our original code

AUTHOR: hits0025 - (United States of America)

I don't know who is this person, he didn't say his name and I didn't find his case.
You can easily compare our source with any other script and you'll see it's original code.
Furthermore some people tried to grab code from us!
It's possible that this person is one of our competitors. Anyway he didn't try even to prove anything, so it's obvious he is just liar.
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