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Complaint Review: Innovative Mechanical & Electrical - Temecula California

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  • Innovative Mechanical & Electrical 41769 Enterprise Circle N Temecula, California United States of America

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Innovative Mechanical and Electrical aka (IME) or Heating and Air Technology of CA did a horrible job for us. (CA Lic #792329) We had to hire another contractor to finish the job and fix all the damage they caused.  When they refused to make an adjustment and particial refund we filled a complaint with the California Contractors Board.  Turns out we are not the only customer that has been ripped off by them.  The CA Attorney's General is investigating this company for illegal activities and fraud.  If you've been a victim of shoddy workmanship or fraud by this company, you can file a complaint with the Contractors Board and add your name to the long list of victims.  Refer to case #S2006-000490.  Their phone number is five, six two, three, four, five, seven, six, five six.   Hopefully, they will get their license revocted and spare some innnocent consumers a lot of greif.

 

 

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#14 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Court?! You filed BK7 & ran like dogs!

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 02, 2012

Pathetic!

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#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Beware the Thyssen name...

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 02, 2012

http://thyssendeceit.blogspot.com/

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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

What a tool

AUTHOR: Get Rid of Trash - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, December 10, 2011

Jim,

 Its amazing and understanding why your wife left you.....Just do me a favor I hope you put this much energy into your new position and you might actually start making some money where you can keep you phone on, and one day support yourself.

 Its amazing how you lie, and cheat your way into getting what you want. Karma is a b**ch! see you in court!

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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

And, there you have it!

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 10, 2011

The extremely immature and completely unprofessional comments posted by the actual owner(s) of Heating & Air Tech of CA, Innovative Mechanical & Electrical aka Bailey Electric is even further proof that completely validates all those that have posted their accurate and factual comments against this so called company(s) prior to myself that have also been victimized by them. 

Again, I urge all that have been contacted by this company(s) to stay as far away as possible from these heinous and fiendish creatures. 


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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Jim, What a piece of sh*t

AUTHOR: Get Rid of Trash - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 09, 2011

Jim, 

Wow your a real piece of sh*t I can tell you that! First you beg everyone in the office for money, you steal leads from the company, and yes we have proof and will sue your dirty a*s until you live on the street, oh wait I hear you already are since Greg kicked you out, unless you moved in with mommy. That is a promise. Once you were fired you start all this drama...... wow you really must be desperate.

Why don't you man up once in your life and take some responsibility. Keep it buddy !

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 07, 2011

*********************************** NOW possibly using the name of BAILEY ELECTRIC !!!

?????????????????????????????????????Contact me at 714-367-4544 or leave
an email address and I will give you even more proof that this so
called company continues to fraud, swindle, and scam homeowners and
commercial property owners to this very day. They NOW are possibly going
by the swindling name of Bailey Electric. This company takes your money
by bullying its victims. I'm talking with the North County Times, O.C.
Register, and The L.A. Times right now in developing a huge story
regarding these creatures heinous and disgusting actions - sad...

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Counter Suites - what a joke!!!

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#8 Consumer Comment

"No thank you!!"

AUTHOR: Potential Client - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, March 18, 2011

There's enough red flags on this company to keep me, a potential consumer, away for good. Not only are all the accusations enough, and the passion by which others have spoken out against this company, but the shameless, immature and unprofessional nature of their rebuttals have, in my opinion, sealed their fate as a likely crooked contractor. All I can say is, "no thank you!!"

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tell the truth

AUTHOR: Mthyssen - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 12, 2010

First i'm shocked to find out I have a stalker....I'm honored to have someone with so much time in their life to research someones history. It would be great however if you don't twist everything around.

1. Innovative Mechanical & Electrical Inc is a completely separate entity from Heating & Air Technology of California, feel free to research that.

2. Manfred Thyssen has filed for Chapter 13. Ch 13 is reorganization, under Chapter 13 you must repay your debt.The previous filings if you take the time to read the documents were incorrect filings by our attorney, or the case was dismissed, if we were abusing the BK Laws we would not be in CH 13 Protection. Manfred Thyssen and Manfred H Thyssen have filed chapter 7 before due to medical issues only.

3. Again if anyone would like to see the actual paperwork of the filings or any other paperwork such as our cross-complaint against the CSLB as well as against the complaining parties please let me know, as stated before we have nothing to hide.

One thing that really bothers me is that these people that we have supposedly caused damage to have not filed a single small claims action (these have never been mentioned) or filed complaints with reputable organizations such as the BBB, or the CSLB. These people also hide behind user names, for all anyone knows its the same person with no life and tons of free time to dig up dirt.

Heating & Air Technology of CA is a very successful and reputable company with thousands of satisfied customers, yes we have made bad business decisions doing work for certain people, hiring shady employees that steal, and others that fail drug tests & yes they have tried suing us over labor issues such as wrongful termination most have been in retaliation of contacting the authorities and pressing charges, we have won cases and we have lost cases. We have also done work for customers that do not have the money to pay us for the work completed and after we file to foreclose on their homes they goto the CSLB and say we did horrible work that is why they did not pay us. I could go on and on, but at the end of the day anyone that cares to see the actual proof, let me know since we have nothing to hide!!!!!!

You have to also understand how the CSLB works, anyone that files a complaint against you gets filed away, after you recive x-amount they review the cases and see if you broke and B&P codes. Just as in our case these are claims that were filed over a period of time, it is now our turn to play the CSLB game and go infront of a commisoner and go over each case and what happend, at the end we will give the CSLB some money and life goes on. You can goto the CSLB site and see how many cases the CSLB has against contractors. If we would have really done the things the CSLB has accused us of, why would they have renewed our license, why have they not shut us down.....

 

 

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Get a Life

AUTHOR: Gduner - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, September 11, 2010

Obviously you have to much free time on your hands to search everything about us, I would call it an obsession.Yet you hide behind a username.... You are correct that we have filed for Chapter 13 Protection, if you were educated you would also know that 13 is a reorganization and you still have to pay vendors etc. I would also recommend that you look at how many people we have sued over the years for various things.


 One thing is we have nothing to hide, if any one would like to know the real truth let me know. As much as you try and slander our reputation we have many very satisfied customers and continue to run a very successful business. In many ways your just showing everyone how obsessed and crazy you really are.


 

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#5 Consumer Comment

Court cases

AUTHOR: EliminateScum - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, August 28, 2010

Mr Thyssen has requested court cases.  There are numerous cases where the Thyssens or thier companies are named as defandants in lawsuits from vendors, customers and employeees. 

For starters, here are a few court cases that are relevent and would be of interest to anyone considering doing business with Heating & Air Technology and the Thyssens. 

Manfred Thyssen has filed for bankruptcy several times in an effort to keep from paying vendors, botched jobs and others they owe money to.  Since Heating & Air Technology is a sole propriotier personal bankruptcy is relevant.

Check out bankruptcy case #096667 in the federal bankruptcy court.  Filed in 2009. You can call the voice activated system to verifty this at (619)557-6521. Just enter in the case number or last name at the prompts.   In 2008 (case#083520) and in 2007(case#074428) Manfred Thyssen also filed bankruptcy.  In 2001, Manfred Thyssen filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy. (case#0112793)

Manfred Heinz Thyssen (junior) has also filed bankruptcy a number of times. Check out case #03314 filed in 2005.  Manfred Heinz Thyssen was Chapter 7 in 2003. (case #0512759)

 Many of these years the economy was good and any competent contractor would be solvent and able to pay their vendors, customers and employeees.  The Thyssens show a  pattern of filing bankruptcy over and over. This  demonstrates either they are massivly incompentent or they are abusing the bankruptcy laws to shirk thier obligations and responsibilities and stick it to their vendors, customers and employees.

Folks, when a tiny operation the size of Heating & Air Technology of California and the Thyssens are involved in so many lawsuits and court actions. it's not the customers, vendors or employees that are at fault.... it's the company.  Beware of this operation and the Thyssens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Speak the truth

AUTHOR: So Cal Flyer - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, August 16, 2010

A/C-Guy:


Obviously you are alittle mad that your employment was terminated. The items listed on the CSLB are accusations, we have not been convicted of any wrong doing. Further if you did sue the company what was the case number.


I hope you put as much energy into your new job as you did in your false complaint.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Attorney General Pursing Heating & Air Technology and Manfred and Karin Thyssen

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 03, 2010

Check out the Caifornia Contractor's web site.  Under lic #792329 for Heating and Air Technology of California you find a PDF file outlining the case against Manfred Thyssen, Karin Thyssen and their companies.  The Thyssens would have you believe there is only one accusation from one customer.  This is a major distortion of the facts. 

The California Attorney General is charging the Thyssens and their company's with over 50 causes for disiplainary action from numerous customers over an extended period of time.  You can read all about it in this 40 page document.  For instance, Karin Thyssen has had her contractor's license revoked before.  Manfred Thyssen is being accused of fraud and causing substantional injury to others.  CA law specifically phrobits someone that has had their license revoked from operating in a managerial capacity for another contractor. 

 

 

 

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Beware

AUTHOR: AC Guy - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, July 08, 2010

Go to the State license Board www2.cslb.ca.gov and search Manfred Thyssen under the personnel name search.  Mafred Thyssen is the father and Manfred Heinz Thyssen is the son.  You will see the number of complaints against them and also the number of different business names they used.  Why would a reputable company have to change names so often?

I worked for Heating and Air Technology of Kalifornia (they spelled California wrong) for a short time and in my opinion, the Thyssen family are corrupt and dishonest conmen.  The other player is Karin Thyssen, the mother who claims no responsibility but I personally saw here decieve customers, employees and advertisers.

By the way, I did sue and won!

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#1 UPDATE Employee

State the Truth

AUTHOR: Mthyssen - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, December 31, 2009

The claims asserted by the original report are false. Heating & Air Technolgy which is a seperate entity from Innovative Mechnaical & Electrical Inc completed the installation as per local codes. The installation was completed and inspected by the city building department with no code violations.

The customer was "unhappy" with the installation and filed a complaint with the CSLB months after the installation was completed, the customer has even signed a completion invoice stating that the project was completed to thier satisfaction. The CSLB has launched an investigation and we have demanded to have a site visit to review any supposed code violations, these would then be corrected.

The customer is in retaliation due to the customer knowing a former buisness partner of IME, Inc and that relationship has been disolved and is being handled in court due to tax issues and fraud. This matter is being handed over to our legal counsel and litigation against the customer and others related will begin soon for slander, false accusations, interferaing with the operations of the company.

Please feel free to contact us for any additional information regarding this case and the accusations at: Manfred@heating-airtechofca.com

The remaining issues on the CSLB are accusations only, these matters are being handled in a court of law and if you would like information on these cases please contact us.

 

 

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