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Complaint Review: John O'connor, EcoGrass Ecograss& Lawn, Eco Grass On Line, Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Industries - San Diego, Los Angles,Orange County California

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E-mails from John, O'Conner DBA no license
Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC,
EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape
Laguna Turf
C/O EcoScape Industries John O'Connor
165 Balboa St. Unit C3
San Marcos, Calif. 92069
Contact: 760.613.0938

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS

WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT
ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS
SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY

This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and it's affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company)

And: __
and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s).

Recitals

The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and

The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Ecoscape Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations.

AGREEMENT

1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor.

2Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses.
- San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf .
- No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors
- San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations
- Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty

3.Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows :

Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height
15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00
.
9.Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement.

The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature.


Dated: ____________Authorized Representative- EcoScape Outdoors LLC

Dated: ___________, Investor

ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF WHOLESALE PRICE LIST
Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections:

7/1/2008 first run
72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$33,750.00
Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 =$54,000.00
First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00

9/1/2008 second run
72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$46,250.00
Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 =$83,250.00
2 month profit $ 37,000.00

Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00
Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00

E-mail from John
Subject: Invoice
HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS XXXX SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL

ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX
Wells Fargo
XXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX

John O'Connor
Ecoscape Outdoors
760.613.0938

Invoice
Date
7/18/2008
Invoice # 627
Bill To
XXXXXXXXXXX
7/18/2008
F.O.B.
Georgia
It's been a pleasure working with you!
Total
Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount
3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00
9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00
Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00
$33,750.00

Don't let this guy rip you off,
Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Don't let this guy rip you off
San DIego, California
U.S.A.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

investor purchased material directly from supplier and ecograss/ecoscape outdoor never recieved any money false report

AUTHOR: Oconnor1871 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 02, 2008

Potential Investor Steve Perdue purchased material directly from synthetic turf mill called morningstar turf out of georgia mill and currently has possesion of 13,500 sq ft of grass which he purchased directly for $33,750.00. Ecograss Online/ Ecoscape Outdoors never received any money from a mister Steven Purdue or ever had a signed or binding contract. If mister Steven Purdue had given money to our company he would obviously have a record of it ie a check or wire deposit which he has not furnished He would also have a signed contract by both parties which he does not have because no such deal was made. the fact is he purchased product from another company and still has possesion of that product and is completely lying about us taking any moneys from him and running not the case completly false report and he will be sued for slander please remove report thank you

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AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 18, 2008

UPDATE: This report is not intended to damage the brand name EcoGrass, EcoScape Outdoor, LLC or any other name mentioned below or mislead you in any way as I do not know what company he actually owns if any.

If you own the brand name ECOGRASS or any other of the names mentioned you may want to contact John O'Conner yourself.

John, O'Conner does business under several names.

Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC, EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape, and EcoScape Industries which may be his father's company is Salem Org.
John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938

315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

E-mail and John's proposed agreement

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY

This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and its affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company) And: __ and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s). Recitals The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Echoscope Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations. AGREEMENT 1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor. 2Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses. - San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf . - No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors - San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations - Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty 3.Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows : Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height 15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00 . 9.Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement. The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature. Dated: ____________Authorized Representative- EcoScape Outdoors LLC Dated: ___________, Investor ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF WHOLESALE PRICE LIST Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 7/1/2008 first run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 =$54,000.00 First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00 9/1/2008 second run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 =$83,250.00 2 month profit $ 37,000.00 Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00 Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00.

*********Although A formal contract was not signed by the parties it was assumed implied consent by the following actions taken by the parties.

The following E-mail from John O'conner supports Johns approval as to terms verbally agreed upon by both parties or he would not have pursued getting the money wired nor would have the money been deposited by XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

Subject: Invoice

HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS XXXX SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX Wells Fargo XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

John O'Connor Ecoscape Outdoors 760.613.0938

INVOICE DATE 7/18/2008

Invoice # XXX Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia

It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00

The money was deposited and John did not follow through with his end of the agreement.

Then to add insult to injury on July 29,2008 he puts a post on Backpage.com "investor needed for established wholesale synthetic grass company 10-15k a month"

UPDATE:
Since this happened it was discovered that he ripped off an entire website from a turf company in Laguna California and I have been told by a wholesale turf company in Anaheim California that they were ripped off by John for more than they wanted to mention and taking legal action.

He also uses 315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

According to the city of Encinitas John has not responded to any of their request for him to contact them

Fortunally the turf was delivered in XXXXX name as lien holder.
But still there are 15 rolls of turf in the warehouse that required a monthly storage fee.

Don't let this guy bs you, Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs some help.


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John O'connor from Salem Oregon doing business in So California under several names

AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 17, 2008

UPDATE: This report is not intended to damage the brand name EcoGrass, EcoScape Outdoor, LLC or any other name mentioned below or mislead you in any way as I do not know what company he owns if any.

If you own the brand name ECOGRASS or any other of the names mentioned you may want to contact John O'Conner yourself.

John, O'Conner does business under several names.

Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC, EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape, and EcoScape Industries which may be his father's company is Salem Org.
John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938

315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

E-mail and John's proposed agreement

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY

This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and its affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company) And: __ and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s). Recitals The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Echoscope Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations. AGREEMENT 1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor. 2Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses. - San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf . - No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors - San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations - Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty 3.Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows : Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height 15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00 . 9.Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement. The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature. Dated: ____________Authorized Representative- EcoScape Outdoors LLC Dated: ___________, Investor ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF WHOLESALE PRICE LIST Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 7/1/2008 first run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 =$54,000.00 First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00 9/1/2008 second run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 =$83,250.00 2 month profit $ 37,000.00 Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00 Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00.

*********Although A formal contract was not signed by the parties it was assumed implied consent by the following actions taken by the parties.

The following E-mail from John O'conner supports Johns approval as to terms verbally agreed upon by both parties or he would not have pursued getting the money wired nor would have the money been deposited by XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

Subject: Invoice

HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS XXXX SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX Wells Fargo XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

John O'Connor Ecoscape Outdoors 760.613.0938

INVOICE DATE 7/18/2008

Invoice # XXX Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia

It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00

The money was deposited and John did not follow through with his end of the agreement.

Then to add insult to injury on July 29,2008 he puts a post on Backpage.com "investor needed for established wholesale synthetic grass company 10-15k a month"

UPDATE:
Since this happened it was discovered that he ripped off an entire website from a turf company in Laguna California and I have been told by a wholesale turf company in Anaheim California that they were ripped off by John for more than they wanted to mention and taking legal action.

He also uses 315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

According to the city of Encinitas John has not responded to any of their request for him to contact them

Fortunally the turf was delivered in XXXXX name as lien holder.
But still there are 15 rolls of turf in the warehouse that required a monthly storage fee.

Don't let this guy bs you, Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs some help.


Southern California

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John O'connor from Salem Oregon doing business in So California under several names

AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 16, 2008

UPDATE: This report is not intended to damage the brand name EcoGrass, EcoScape Outdoor, LLC or any other name mentioned below or mislead you in any way as I do not know what company he owns if any.

If you own the brand name ECOGRASS or any other of the names mentioned you may want to contact John O'Conner yourself.

John, O'Conner does business under several names.

Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC, EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape, and EcoScape Industries which may be his father's company is Salem Org.
John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938

315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

E-mail and John's proposed agreement

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY

This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and its affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company) And: __ and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s). Recitals The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Echoscope Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations. AGREEMENT 1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor. 2Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses. - San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf . - No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors - San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations - Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty 3.Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows : Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height 15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00 . 9.Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement. The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature. Dated: ____________Authorized Representative- EcoScape Outdoors LLC Dated: ___________, Investor ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF WHOLESALE PRICE LIST Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 7/1/2008 first run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 =$54,000.00 First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00 9/1/2008 second run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 =$83,250.00 2 month profit $ 37,000.00 Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00 Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00.

*********Although A formal contract was not signed by the parties it was assumed implied consent by the following actions taken by the parties.

The following E-mail from John O'conner supports Johns approval as to terms verbally agreed upon by both parties or he would not have pursued getting the money wired nor would have the money been deposited by XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

Subject: Invoice

HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS XXXX SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX Wells Fargo XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

John O'Connor Ecoscape Outdoors 760.613.0938

INVOICE DATE 7/18/2008

Invoice # XXX Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia

It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00

The money was deposited and John did not follow through with his end of the agreement.

Then to add insult to injury on July 29,2008 he puts a post on Backpage.com "investor needed for established wholesale synthetic grass company 10-15k a month"

UPDATE:
Since this happened it was discovered that he ripped off an entire website from a turf company in Laguna California and I have been told by a wholesale turf company in Anaheim California that they were ripped off by John for more than they wanted to mention and taking legal action.

He also uses 315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

According to the city of Encinitas John has not responded to any of their request for him to contact them

Fortunally the turf was delivered in XXXXX name as lien holder.
But still there are 15 rolls of turf in the warehouse that required a monthly storage fee.

Don't let this guy bs you, Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs some help.


Southern California

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John O'connor from Salem Oregon doing business in So California under several names

AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 16, 2008

UPDATE: This report is not intended to damage the brand name EcoGrass, EcoScape Outdoor, LLC or any other name mentioned below or mislead you in any way as I do not know what company he owns if any.

If you own the brand name ECOGRASS or any other of the names mentioned you may want to contact John O'Conner yourself.

John, O'Conner does business under several names.

Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC, EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape, and EcoScape Industries which may be his father's company is Salem Org.
John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938

315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

E-mail and John's proposed agreement

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY

This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and its affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company) And: __ and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s). Recitals The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Echoscope Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations. AGREEMENT 1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor. 2Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses. - San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf . - No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors - San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations - Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty 3.Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows : Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height 15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00 . 9.Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement. The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature. Dated: ____________Authorized Representative- EcoScape Outdoors LLC Dated: ___________, Investor ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF WHOLESALE PRICE LIST Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 7/1/2008 first run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 =$54,000.00 First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00 9/1/2008 second run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 =$46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 =$83,250.00 2 month profit $ 37,000.00 Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00 Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00.

*********Although A formal contract was not signed by the parties it was assumed implied consent by the following actions taken by the parties.

The following E-mail from John O'conner supports Johns approval as to terms verbally agreed upon by both parties or he would not have pursued getting the money wired nor would have the money been deposited by XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

Subject: Invoice

HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS XXXX SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX Wells Fargo XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

John O'Connor Ecoscape Outdoors 760.613.0938

INVOICE DATE 7/18/2008

Invoice # XXX Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia

It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00

The money was deposited and John did not follow through with his end of the agreement.

Then to add insult to injury on July 29,2008 he puts a post on Backpage.com "investor needed for established wholesale synthetic grass company 10-15k a month"

UPDATE:
Since this happened it was discovered that he ripped off an entire website from a turf company in Laguna California and I have been told by a wholesale turf company in Anaheim California that they were ripped off by John for more than they wanted to mention and taking legal action.

He also uses 315 S. Coast Hwy 101 Ste. 277
Encinitas CA 92024
888-275-8969

According to the city of Encinitas John has not responded to any of their request for him to contact them

Fortunally the turf was delivered in XXXXX name as lien holder.
But still there are 15 rolls of turf in the warehouse that required a monthly storage fee.

Don't let this guy bs you, Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs some help.


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John O'connor, uses several business namesSan Diego, Los Angeles,Orange County California

AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Several DBA's no license John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938 John O'Connor 760.613.0938 Invoice Date 7/18/2008 Invoice # 627 Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00 Don't let this guy rip you off, Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and needs XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Don't let this guy rip you off San DIego, California
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AUTHOR: Don't let this guy rip you off - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, August 28, 2008

This guy operates on Craig's List and Back Page
Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale

John O'Conner post:

NEED INVESTOR FOR 90 days booming synthetic grass business

Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 6/1/2008 first inventory investment 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 = $33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 = $54,000.00 3 month gross profit $ 20,250.00 3 month profit investor after investment reimbursed 50/50 split $ 10,125.00 9/1/2008 second inventory invetsment 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 = $46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 = $83,250.00 3 month gross profit $ 37,000.00 3 month profit investor after investment reimbursed 50/50 split $18,500.00 THIS ACQUISTION AND DISTRIBUTION PRICE LIST IS SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT AND CHANGE BY COMPANY BASED ON ECONOMIC AND MARKET CONDITIONS. WE ANTICIPATE TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER PRODUCT FROM OUR NORTH COUNTY WAREHOUSE AND ALSO FOR DELIVERY THROUGHOUT THE GREATER SOUTHWEST REGION- CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, NEVADA, UTAH
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After I funded his so call wholesale project be placed the same investor ad on backpage.com

Then to add insult to injury:
After I paid for the 15 rolls he stopped returning my calls. If he ever did it was nothing but lies and excuses.

John, O'Conner DBA Eco Turf Systems, EcoScape Outdoors LLC, EcoGrass Synthetic Turf & Landscape Laguna Turf C/O EcoScape Industries John O'Connor 165 Balboa St. Unit C3 San Marcos, Calif. 92069 Contact: 760.613.0938

E-mails from John

HELLO HERE IS THE INFORMATION PACKET ON THE INVESTMENT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME BACK DIRECTLY AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER I AM LOOKING TO LOCK IN AN INVESTOR BY THE END OF THE WEEK THANKS

WHOLESALE LICENSE AGREEMENT ECOGRASS TURF SYSTEMS SAN DIEGO. LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY
This Agreement, which shall be effective on the date signed below and is by and between EcoScape Outdoor, LLC, (hereinafter referred to as Company) and it's affiliates and assigns, (hereinafter referred to as Company) And: ___________________________________________________________ and his/her current or to be formed company, affiliates, designee, successor or assignee(s). Recitals The Company is a manufacturer, distributor and sales organization that has spent a considerable amount of time, resources and funding to develop new products and markets for outdoor living products, confidential information and marketing and sales techniques for the Company/Company's business; and The Investors agrees to invest a minimum of 33,750.00 dollars Ecoscape Outdoor for wholesale synthetic grass operations. AGREEMENT 1. Term. Investor agrees to invest 33,750.00 dollars to purchase initial 15 rolls of EcoGrass (900 sq. ft. per roll). It is recognized that the intial investment shall be repaid on a 60 day payment schedule $16,875.00 per month and on the 3 month profit shares in the amount of $10,125.00 shall be paid to investor. 2. Wholesale Overview. Ecoscape Outdoors is responsible for infrastructure all marketing in San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange County, as well as all operating exspenses. - San Diego Market is prime for wholesale turf . - No one is currently offering wholesale to the public or landscape contractors - San Diego county is currently offering $1.00 rebate per sq ft for any synthetic turf installations - Home owners love the zero maintenance aspect and the long 10 yr warranty 3. Products Covered. The specific products covered by this agreement are as follows : Ecograss 69 oz mono-thatch Royal 2' Pile height 15 rolls 15 x 60 = 900 sq ft each total of 13,500.00 sq ft for purchase price of 2.50 = $33,750.00 . 9. Modification. The provisions of this Agreement may be waived, altered, amended, modified, or repealed, in whole or in part, only by the written consent of all Parties to this Agreement. The Company and Dealer intending to be legally bound, have signed this Agreement on the date to the left of their signature.

Dated: ____________ Authorized Representative-

EcoScape Outdoors LLC Dated: ___________ ,
Investor ECOGRASS & ECOSPORT TURF

WHOLESALE PRICE LIST Eco Grass & EcoLawn Residential & Commercial Turf System Wholesale Projections: 7/1/2008 first run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 13,500 sq ft x $2.50 = $33,750.00 Conservative retail price 13,500 sq ft x 4.00 = $54,000.00 First 2 month profit $ 20,125.00 9/1/2008 second run 72 oz Poly Ethylene Premium Royal 18,500 sq ft x $2.50 = $46,250.00 Conservative retail price 18,500 sq ft x 4.50 = $83,250.00 2 month profit $ 37,000.00 Investor profit every 2 months 1st run $10,125.00 Investor profit evey 2 months 2nd run $18,500.00 ____________________________________________________________ E-mail

from John Subject: Invoice HELLO HERE IS THE INVOICE FOR THE 15 ROLLS "BLANK" SAID IF WE GET HIM PAYMENT TODAY OR TOMMORROW WE CAN GET ORDER DELIVERED BY NEXT FRIDAY 7 DAYS HERE IS HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND WIRING INFO I USUALLY DEPOSIT A CHECK DIRECTLY TO HIS ACCOUNT BUT WIRING WORKS AS WELL ABA XXXXXXXXAct# XXXXXXX Wells Fargo XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX John O'Connor Ecoscape Outdoors 760.613.0938 _____________________________________________________________

Invoice Date 7/18/2008 Invoice # 627 Bill To XXXXXXXXXXX 7/18/2008 F.O.B. Georgia It's been a pleasure working with you! Total Quantity Item Code Description U/M Price Each Amount 3,600 S2 Liberty Supreme (4 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 9,000.00 9,900 Spyglass Spyglass (11 rolls 60' x 15') sqft 2.50 24,750.00 Out-of-state sale, exempt from sales tax 0.00% 0.00 $33,750.00 _____________________________________________________________
Don't let this guy rip you off,

Has anyone else had this experience????

Lets pull together and stop this guy he is 26 and should not be taking advantage of anyone let alone the elderly.

I think father joe should send him back to Salem Oregon 97302
write and let me know what you think

Check out other complaints on e-bay reviews type in ecoscape.

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