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Report: #238926

Complaint Review: Keen, Ingenio, Ms. Cleo, Psychic Friends Network, LiveAdvice, Kasamba - San Fransisco California

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  • Keen, Ingenio, Ms. Cleo, Psychic Friends Network, LiveAdvice, Kasamba www.keen.com San Fransisco, California U.S.A.

Keen, Ingenio, Psychic Friends Network, LiveAdvice, Kasamba Keen, Ingenio, Ms. Cleo, Psychic Friends Network, LiveAdvice, Kasamba Scamming, over billing, bookstore psychics, and non psychic script readers Ripoff San Fransisco California

*Consumer Suggestion: kasamba and how much they made

*Consumer Comment: Kasamba takes 40%

*UPDATE Employee: Hmmm ok?

*UPDATE Employee: Hmmm ok?

*UPDATE Employee: Hmmm ok?

*Consumer Comment: Chris!

*Consumer Suggestion: Psychics - answer this one....

*UPDATE Employee: Not True

*Consumer Comment: Karen you're wrong

*UPDATE Employee: Kasamba

*UPDATE Employee: About Kasamba

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Keen, Ingenio, Psychic Friends Network, Ms. Cleo, and Kasamba are all owned by the origional Ms. Cleo's network. They were told not to open up another psychic site and were not allowed to do internet businesses due to their scamming and over charging practices.

Keen has been bought out by the origional Ms. Cleo and Psychic Friend's Network over 3 years ago. They are doing the same illegal business practices as before.

People are being over billed. Psychics are being replaced with bookstore psychics who are script readers and not psychic at all. There are ads for these people and they make .25 cents a minute while you are being charged 2.99 or 3.99 a minute. They are not psychic.

Some of the feedback is actually feedback that use to belong to a real psychic. It is being handed to a non-psychic and when she leaves her listing is being given to another script reader.

Currently, Ms. Cleo's network, (aka Keen) is buying up the psychic sites and turning them into cattle farms of fake psychics. There is an onion effect. Some of the best readers are still there on Keen but when you go to call them some of the calls are actually diverted to a bookstore psychic.

Buyer beware.

Karen
New York, District of Columbia
U.S.A.

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#11 Consumer Suggestion

kasamba and how much they made

AUTHOR: Wendyw007 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, August 09, 2007

Here, if your curious on how much they made, they were just bought over from "LivePerson" heres the report.

In 2006, the experts generated approximately $20 million in gross fees of which Kasamba received approximately $7 million, an increase from approximately $8.4 million in gross fees and approximately $2.7 million in net revenue to Kasamba in 2005.

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#10 Consumer Comment

Kasamba takes 40%

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

POSTED: Thursday, July 05, 2007

As a client I have spent way too much on Kasamba. Mostly fake readings not worth 5 cents. But I ask the question, who is really getting ripped off? One thing I do know, Kasamba must be making a TON OF MONEY!

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#9 UPDATE Employee

Hmmm ok?

AUTHOR: Mrs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 16, 2007

Chris, don't you think you'd know it all if you read every book ever written? Well why don't you? Oh wow that's because you might want to eat, or hmm sleep, or gee, go to a movie, or gosh LIVE A LIFE? How on earth could you have a conversation with someone in your head telling you the next moment to come every moment? That's just silly to think that a psychic is told everything about EVERY THING. Who would want to be? How boring!

We're told what we need to be when we need to be. We push things back when we need to, and we tune in like you turn on your television when we need to. I'm not angered by your question because it's evident you don't understand, and ignorance is just that. I would have to ask you why on earth you'd even ask that sort of question if you'd done your homework?

As to the original poster, you're incorrect. Please provide us with the source of your information so we can investigate that matter for ourselves.

I can't even image how you'd personalize a reading with a script? If there's a way I'm not aware of it. I can only speak for myself as an employee of kasamba in saying that no I don't use a script. I can also speak on behalf of several extremely gifted friends who work on keen who don't use a script. As to the other sites, I can't comment on something I don't know for a fact.

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#8 UPDATE Employee

Hmmm ok?

AUTHOR: Mrs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 16, 2007

Chris, don't you think you'd know it all if you read every book ever written? Well why don't you? Oh wow that's because you might want to eat, or hmm sleep, or gee, go to a movie, or gosh LIVE A LIFE? How on earth could you have a conversation with someone in your head telling you the next moment to come every moment? That's just silly to think that a psychic is told everything about EVERY THING. Who would want to be? How boring!

We're told what we need to be when we need to be. We push things back when we need to, and we tune in like you turn on your television when we need to. I'm not angered by your question because it's evident you don't understand, and ignorance is just that. I would have to ask you why on earth you'd even ask that sort of question if you'd done your homework?

As to the original poster, you're incorrect. Please provide us with the source of your information so we can investigate that matter for ourselves.

I can't even image how you'd personalize a reading with a script? If there's a way I'm not aware of it. I can only speak for myself as an employee of kasamba in saying that no I don't use a script. I can also speak on behalf of several extremely gifted friends who work on keen who don't use a script. As to the other sites, I can't comment on something I don't know for a fact.

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#7 UPDATE Employee

Hmmm ok?

AUTHOR: Mrs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 16, 2007

Chris, don't you think you'd know it all if you read every book ever written? Well why don't you? Oh wow that's because you might want to eat, or hmm sleep, or gee, go to a movie, or gosh LIVE A LIFE? How on earth could you have a conversation with someone in your head telling you the next moment to come every moment? That's just silly to think that a psychic is told everything about EVERY THING. Who would want to be? How boring!

We're told what we need to be when we need to be. We push things back when we need to, and we tune in like you turn on your television when we need to. I'm not angered by your question because it's evident you don't understand, and ignorance is just that. I would have to ask you why on earth you'd even ask that sort of question if you'd done your homework?

As to the original poster, you're incorrect. Please provide us with the source of your information so we can investigate that matter for ourselves.

I can't even image how you'd personalize a reading with a script? If there's a way I'm not aware of it. I can only speak for myself as an employee of kasamba in saying that no I don't use a script. I can also speak on behalf of several extremely gifted friends who work on keen who don't use a script. As to the other sites, I can't comment on something I don't know for a fact.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Chris!

AUTHOR: Katherine - (United Kingdom)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 08, 2007

Dear Chris,

how do you know that these psychics haven't foreseen these events.

Much as you are a disgruntled client or cynic are you saying you're psychic? You must be assuming that to make statements like you know what's in every psychics head.
I've seen your question on nearly all the posts here.

If you don't like psychics don't go to them period.

I've found some great psychics on the net, and will not say who they are as no doubt you and the likes of you would go and harass them. I've also found some that don't know what the hell they're talking about and couldn't guide themselves down the street let alone anyone else.
Either way your point which you think is so intelligent a question is particularly boring and pointless.

Why don't you go and bash it out in the chat rooms of psychics instead of posting inane comments all over the place and repeating yourself like an old record with no other points to make but showing yourself up to be thick?

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Psychics - answer this one....

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, May 03, 2007

A question to all the "psyhcics" who are posting on this hilarious thread.

You claim to be great at reading peoples futures, speaking with the dead, ect. You must have incredible "supernatural" powers.

Why is it that none of you could forsee these events?

It seems to me that any decent "psychic" should have been aware that this was upcoming and done things to prevent it. It seems to be a major disruption to many lives.

Is it possible that "psychic" powers are nothing more than another way to scam people out of their money? These people with "supernatural" powers posess nothing but an ability to tell people what they want to hear. They have the "power" to quickly reduce your bank account.

CONSUMERS! Look at all of the crap in this thread and ask yourself - would you trust any of these "psychic's" to help you with a problem? They can't even help themselves!

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#4 UPDATE Employee

Not True

AUTHOR: J - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 02, 2007

Kasamba is not owned by Miss Cleo and we do not use scripts. This claim is untrue and unproved.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Karen you're wrong

AUTHOR: Katherine - (United Kingdom)

POSTED: Saturday, April 21, 2007

Dear Karen,

You can look up some of these companies and they are not owned by the former miss cleo at all.
Kasamba has an ipo and owned by two individuals.
You should get your facts straight before submitting fraudulent claims.

I hope one of these companies sues you for libel

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Kasamba

AUTHOR: Heather - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007

I would like to know where you got your information regarding Kasamba to make the above claim, and I would also like to company information for same. Kasamba's company information is in the public domain for anyone to read, so if you have different information, please reveal it. That way consumers can conduct their own research.

I am a reader on Kasamba and I can assure you that they have nothing to do with our readings. We set our own per minute rate and as long as we follow Kasamba's Terms of Service (which anyone can publically read on thier site)they take their almost 40%, which, I feel, is not a bad rate considering the platform and the advertising that they do for the site. They do not tell a reader how or what to read.

I cannot comment on the other companies that you have named, as I have never had any dealings with them, only Kasamba, in which I have used as a platform for over two years.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

About Kasamba

AUTHOR: Shelley - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, March 26, 2007

I just wanted to take a minute and say something about this report. What you have said about these companies may be true, I can't really say for sure, because I only work on Kasamba. But I just wanted to say that I am a reader on Kasamba and I honestly can't say whom the owner is! So you may be right. But I do know that kasamba has nothing to do with the readers. They just let us use thier site and charge us a fee for using their chat platform. We are considered to be "self employed" so we don't work for them. And I can assure everyone that they never have given us scripts.

They don't care how successful we are as long as they are getting thier 40% on each reading. If they had ever given scripts I would have never decided to work on there, for sure! I can't speak for everyone but I do sincerely want to help people, and have actually turned people away if I can't feel the connection before I even begin.

So I just wanted to let you know that. But like I said I can't speak for the other companies. I do know Kasamba doesn't do the script thing. Hope that helps :)

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