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Complaint Review: Kenneth Ham, David Ham-Owners Of Allthenutz.com & Yournutz.com - Santee California

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  • Kenneth Ham, David Ham-Owners Of Allthenutz.com & Yournutz.com 10953 Ramsgate Drive Santee, California U.S.A.

Kenneth Ham, David Ham-Owners Of Allthenutz.com & Yournutz.com - Rude conversation over of the phone and using Bait & Switch Tactics - Beware of these based companies! Santee California

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Hi All, I have been buying "bulls balls" type truck balls for years, I get a new truck every year. I am a retired big rig trucker who spends most of my time online, much to my wife's dismay, trying to find interesting things.

The other day I "googled" bulls balls and found this website, selling the same sets that I have bought in the past from the manufacturer's site. The
prices were slashed in price from what I usually paid at bullsballs.com.

I then went to bullsballs.com and checked their prices, they were still the same as they have been for years. I then clicked on a link called Compare Imitators, I've been there a couple of times before, it is page the boys over there put together a few years back comparing the other companies, products, prices and services. Other information under "updates" tells a pretty sorrid story about the Ham Brothers and their lack of business ethics.

According to Information at bullsballs.com, this allthenutz, isn't even a dealer for them, they indicate that they are an Unauthorized Dealer and I knew these were the real bulls balls, so I wondered how they had these balls for sale if they aren't a dealer. So i went back to the manufacturer's site and looked around some more and discovered that these guys must be buying their balls from some other Authorized Dealer in small quantities and placing pictures and info on their site so that they could get ill gotten traffic, when people searched for truck balls. By doing this, they seem to be using the trademark bulls balls illegally.

Well, I decided to call allthenutz, get the lowdown and see why their prices are so cheap. After talking to them, and asking if these were the real bulls balls, they said yes. Well, I buy all my stuff online and am always trying save a few bucks, I asked if the chrome and blue bulls balls were in stock, the answer was no, I asked how come it says they were both in stock, I don't know, I'll check. Somebody else came to the phone and said the webmaster hadn't updated the page yet and he tried to switch me to one of their smaller nuts.

It was then I really started to get the run around, this person kept trying to get me to buy something else and started to get kind of nasty when I kept saying no, I only want the bulls balls. So I asked about other colors, they were out stock too. I knew then, I was being had and told him so, he hung up!

Well, combined with what I just read about this company, I decided to call my old trucking buddy and asked him to call and order some, the very same same thing happened to him.

In conclusion, taking into consideration all the bull I read earlier at bullsballs.com and what we experienced over the phone, we agreed, this was the old "bait and switch" routine.

So anyway, I went to Bullsballs.com and ordered my balls. After thinking about it for couple of days, my buddy and I decided let people know about this bait and switch operation at allthenutz.com.

Keep on Truckin! But be careful out there.

DON - I watch for bad people
Key Largo, Florida
U.S.A.

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AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, September 07, 2009

about time for John beaman and John saller  to have their balls end up on a truck bumper

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BUlls Balls John Saller and John Beaman Fraudulent posts beware

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 01, 2009

The truth about John beaman and John saller the first has been issued a harrasment restaining order and the other is a convicted violent felon... read on

What would you say if you came across a company that publishes on their website that if you sell their truck nuts for less that the prices they sell for they will not ship any future orders? That was posted on their site for almost two years until they were called on it. Then they changed it to you can set your price as in the past? But in the past, they fixed the price. Then they deny that dealers of theirs conspire with them to fix prices? I have a copy of a letter sent to TRAILERTOYS, one of their dealers, that states they can NOT discount the price because of the agreement with the manufacturer. That was Jan 09.

Then the owner of the company, John D Saller, created several identities (donwilsonflorida, bigrigtex, harry333, and posted lies regarding one of his compettitors. He accused them of identity theft and bait and switch. We have documented IP adresses proving that it came from the owner of Bulls balls. Received: from BBBHCOFFICE (unknown [71.36.165.21])
(Authenticated sender: bullsballs@qwestoffice.net)
The above IP address has been used to post under the created names by John D Saller of BullsBalls and Jaydee sales llc in
AZ. Additionally, by masquerading as anonymous third party
consumers on various third party boards, John D Saller is violating the terms of use under which he is permitted to post to those third party boards. John D Saller at bullsballs.com and Jaydee sales llc.s
behavior may subject them to liability to these third parties, and may
constitute a civil and criminal violation of the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act 18 U.S.C. 1030 et seq.

What would you do? Well for one I would stay away from that site. The owner has breached his contract of privacy, and the web master John R Beaman of the wwwebfactory stated he had no privacy on his site that runs the checkout for sales. HMMM, Beaman gets all the personal and credit info and provides ZERO privacy.

Well, since Saller has committed felonies in my opinion, so a criminal complaint has been filed. States attorney generals have been notified and the investigation is underway.

As you can see and intuitively feel, impersonating someone to post lies about a business is criminal, in AZ it is a felony.

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