Kjc Concepts, cydcor, ken Lear, brandi Rucks, sam Carlile DREAM MAKERS ? DREAM FAKERS!!! DON'T FALL FOR THIS "CHANCE OF A LIFETIME" Birmingham Alabama

I am so amused that the current "happy" employee, otherwise known as brainwashed employee calls himself "Superstar."  That is exactly on point.  These uneducated buffoons that do make a little money from going door to door and pressuring businesses into buying more service that they probably don't need, think of themselves as "superstars."  That's just great.  Maybe it's easy for me to laugh since I only worked there for two weeks after college while searching for a job.  Now I make twice what these people make and don't have to break a sweat or con anyone into anything to do it.  It makes me smile to think about it.

People that are trying to get a job please dont stop here. This a scam. They lie to you from the very first moment they see you. They tell you that this is a sales job, but when you come for a second round interview you find out that it is a solicting job. Next they tell you that you will make 300 to 500 everyweek, but in reality you will make 30 to 100 on your 1st 2nd and 3rd check. Also they tell you that ledership you learn to train, interview, and run road trip, but they dont tell you that all of that is free of charge. This job will cost you alot of money, time, and wear and tear on your car. Yes i said money, time, and wear and tear on your car.

Money- You will pay for everything: Gas, lunch, brakes, oil, flats, cloths, and every other expense that comes around. But if you say something they lie and say it taxe deductible, which we know its not. Also they might tell you hey if you were a manager you would have to pay for it any way. Also they bash everyone else that is not working for them. But in reality a 16 year old bus boy at joes crab shack make more than 90% of the employees here, not to mention no expenses

Time- By the time you relize hey this is enough, you will have waste a lot of your time. Also they want you go on road trips with no per diem. and drive you on car, sleeping in the same room with 4 or five other people, eating ham and bologna sandwiches. Just imagine going to atlanta and have to eat a homemade sandwiches. Crazy huh

Wear and tear on your car- Self explantory. You drive everyday, all day, every where at you on expense.

The next phase after leadership ( or brokeship) is assistant manager. They say you are only in the office three month after you hit this but, they have a assistant manager the has been one for six, and proably about to drop down to leadership again if he loses his team.

As for the manager, when he interviews someone he tries to use this thing called the system on you. they are called fear-of-loss, jones effect, sense of urgeny, and indifference. He wants to make it seem like its a real interview process. But in reality if you come in with sharp clothes and looking nice you will get hired not matter what. 25 sharp one legged dogs could interview with Kjc and i rest assure everyone of them will be sell world wides and giving pic freezes the next week.

Sorry it took so long for me to post this just been kind of busy but this job is a rip off. you will lose it all. Do Not Start or i will kindly say i told you so.

Truth tell signing off

Reading all of these venom-filled responses is funny to me.

I worked for a Cydcor branch for about 3 months. When I got started, I had a background in outside sales and was pretty skeptical of the whole thing. I did, however, enjoy the attitudes and the "learning" atmosphere that I was in when I was at the office, and the work wasn't that bad. I made good money---$600-$800 per week, and there was a $30 mistake on my check once---that was corrected the following week, and I got a $20 bonus to make up for it.

Yes, it's a different atmosphere than you'll find just about anywhere else. Yes, the people "seem" brainwashed because they're all working towards what they envision as an incredible opportunity. Truth be told, it IS an incredible opportunity, but it's not for everyone. You have to work incredibly hard. You have to be willing to take rejection. You have to be totally dedicated to it---and I just wasn't. I got a job offer from a company I had applied for 6 months earlier and I accepted.

Bottom line is that it's not for everyone. Clearly the ones with the venom are the idiots who didn't have any work ethic whatsoever and were bitter that they suck at life. Conversely, the ones who defend Cydcor and "the opportunity" to the death are idiots too, because they don't realize that 99 out of 100 people they work with during their time there will never make it to ownership---and that includes them.

What is it? It's hard work. It can be unforgiving (like all commission-based positions). It can be frustrating. It can be rewarding. But it's CERTAINLY not for everyone, and few people will make it to ownership.

What it's not, however, is a scam. It's not fraudulent. It's not, inherently anyways, misleading, although some offices can be run that way. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it's not presented that way if the offices are doing what they are supposed to. It's not dishonest--you're not selling crappy products, you're geniunely selling products from mostly Fortune 500 companies (AT&T, Verizon, Quill).

In my opinion, ignore both ends of the spectrum--ignore the idiots who bash it like it's a scam, ignore the idiots who praise it like it's paradise. It is what it is---a good opportunity for those who want to work their asses off, make pretty good money, and maybe, possibly, have a 1% chance of making it to "ownership."

Reading all of these venom-filled responses is funny to me.

I worked for a Cydcor branch for about 3 months. When I got started, I had a background in outside sales and was pretty skeptical of the whole thing. I did, however, enjoy the attitudes and the "learning" atmosphere that I was in when I was at the office, and the work wasn't that bad. I made good money---$600-$800 per week, and there was a $30 mistake on my check once---that was corrected the following week, and I got a $20 bonus to make up for it.

Yes, it's a different atmosphere than you'll find just about anywhere else. Yes, the people "seem" brainwashed because they're all working towards what they envision as an incredible opportunity. Truth be told, it IS an incredible opportunity, but it's not for everyone. You have to work incredibly hard. You have to be willing to take rejection. You have to be totally dedicated to it---and I just wasn't. I got a job offer from a company I had applied for 6 months earlier and I accepted.

Bottom line is that it's not for everyone. Clearly the ones with the venom are the idiots who didn't have any work ethic whatsoever and were bitter that they suck at life. Conversely, the ones who defend Cydcor and "the opportunity" to the death are idiots too, because they don't realize that 99 out of 100 people they work with during their time there will never make it to ownership---and that includes them.

What is it? It's hard work. It can be unforgiving (like all commission-based positions). It can be frustrating. It can be rewarding. But it's CERTAINLY not for everyone, and few people will make it to ownership.

What it's not, however, is a scam. It's not fraudulent. It's not, inherently anyways, misleading, although some offices can be run that way. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it's not presented that way if the offices are doing what they are supposed to. It's not dishonest--you're not selling crappy products, you're geniunely selling products from mostly Fortune 500 companies (AT&T, Verizon, Quill).

In my opinion, ignore both ends of the spectrum--ignore the idiots who bash it like it's a scam, ignore the idiots who praise it like it's paradise. It is what it is---a good opportunity for those who want to work their asses off, make pretty good money, and maybe, possibly, have a 1% chance of making it to "ownership."

Reading all of these venom-filled responses is funny to me.

I worked for a Cydcor branch for about 3 months. When I got started, I had a background in outside sales and was pretty skeptical of the whole thing. I did, however, enjoy the attitudes and the "learning" atmosphere that I was in when I was at the office, and the work wasn't that bad. I made good money---$600-$800 per week, and there was a $30 mistake on my check once---that was corrected the following week, and I got a $20 bonus to make up for it.

Yes, it's a different atmosphere than you'll find just about anywhere else. Yes, the people "seem" brainwashed because they're all working towards what they envision as an incredible opportunity. Truth be told, it IS an incredible opportunity, but it's not for everyone. You have to work incredibly hard. You have to be willing to take rejection. You have to be totally dedicated to it---and I just wasn't. I got a job offer from a company I had applied for 6 months earlier and I accepted.

Bottom line is that it's not for everyone. Clearly the ones with the venom are the idiots who didn't have any work ethic whatsoever and were bitter that they suck at life. Conversely, the ones who defend Cydcor and "the opportunity" to the death are idiots too, because they don't realize that 99 out of 100 people they work with during their time there will never make it to ownership---and that includes them.

What is it? It's hard work. It can be unforgiving (like all commission-based positions). It can be frustrating. It can be rewarding. But it's CERTAINLY not for everyone, and few people will make it to ownership.

What it's not, however, is a scam. It's not fraudulent. It's not, inherently anyways, misleading, although some offices can be run that way. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it's not presented that way if the offices are doing what they are supposed to. It's not dishonest--you're not selling crappy products, you're geniunely selling products from mostly Fortune 500 companies (AT&T, Verizon, Quill).

In my opinion, ignore both ends of the spectrum--ignore the idiots who bash it like it's a scam, ignore the idiots who praise it like it's paradise. It is what it is---a good opportunity for those who want to work their asses off, make pretty good money, and maybe, possibly, have a 1% chance of making it to "ownership."

Reading all of these venom-filled responses is funny to me.

I worked for a Cydcor branch for about 3 months. When I got started, I had a background in outside sales and was pretty skeptical of the whole thing. I did, however, enjoy the attitudes and the "learning" atmosphere that I was in when I was at the office, and the work wasn't that bad. I made good money---$600-$800 per week, and there was a $30 mistake on my check once---that was corrected the following week, and I got a $20 bonus to make up for it.

Yes, it's a different atmosphere than you'll find just about anywhere else. Yes, the people "seem" brainwashed because they're all working towards what they envision as an incredible opportunity. Truth be told, it IS an incredible opportunity, but it's not for everyone. You have to work incredibly hard. You have to be willing to take rejection. You have to be totally dedicated to it---and I just wasn't. I got a job offer from a company I had applied for 6 months earlier and I accepted.

Bottom line is that it's not for everyone. Clearly the ones with the venom are the idiots who didn't have any work ethic whatsoever and were bitter that they suck at life. Conversely, the ones who defend Cydcor and "the opportunity" to the death are idiots too, because they don't realize that 99 out of 100 people they work with during their time there will never make it to ownership---and that includes them.

What is it? It's hard work. It can be unforgiving (like all commission-based positions). It can be frustrating. It can be rewarding. But it's CERTAINLY not for everyone, and few people will make it to ownership.

What it's not, however, is a scam. It's not fraudulent. It's not, inherently anyways, misleading, although some offices can be run that way. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme, and it's not presented that way if the offices are doing what they are supposed to. It's not dishonest--you're not selling crappy products, you're geniunely selling products from mostly Fortune 500 companies (AT&T, Verizon, Quill).

In my opinion, ignore both ends of the spectrum--ignore the idiots who bash it like it's a scam, ignore the idiots who praise it like it's paradise. It is what it is---a good opportunity for those who want to work their asses off, make pretty good money, and maybe, possibly, have a 1% chance of making it to "ownership."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6by6t2xZx3M

The best part about my experience with CYDCOR and Ken Lear is I NEVER got caught in the whole management brainwashing BS. KEN LEAR....you NEVER once impulsed me on any of the management dreams...EVER. You have the worst reputation in the entire CYDCOR business pyramid and everyone knows it. You talk s**t about Adam Dorfman and Jamie Hepp but guess what? There names arent bombarded all over the internet about how they are huge pieces of garbage. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!! I cannot stress that enough. Despite the dollars in your bank account, or the overrides that you encure; everyone will always think you're a scam artist and a piece of trash. Now I have to go to my sales APPOINTMENT in my company car, but before I must put gas in my tank with my company credit card. I succeeded Ken....you d****ebag. Next time I see you, im pouring a beer over your head...and i cant wait.

Another add on to google,
Josh

Nothing is laid out in the interview. The administrator on your first contact with the company refuses to answer questions about compensation especially the commission part. What they usually like to say is average compensation will be $30 plus. Unfortunately, in reality the reps average $60 a day in these offices over a course of a week (and that's a 6 day week). That turns into an average of about 19000 per year. Will one or two people do better and maybe come close the 30K, yes of course, but it's not the average as promoted. The first interview will consist of avoiding questions about commission, and the second will avoid them at all costs til lunch. Now you finally found out, but they don't talk about the phases too much in the part, just the managerial phase and then say that managers average over 100K in the first year. Will one or two make that, yes of course, but the average is more around 30-40K for a manager in their first year. So bottom line on that, nothing is laid out on the interview dealing with commission.

The type of work isn't explained either until you get to the field. All the ads you will see will say things like; managers needed, sports-minded individuals, and when actually speaking of the job, will say face to face presentation without the mention that it is door to door not pre-set appointments.

The high turnover rate is a result of people being misled about the opportunity. Many of the people who come and go didn't leave because they didn't have work ethic and had to be weeded out. The example is simple as the majority of the people will end up out earning their managers in the next year or two.

Positive of Cydcor: The basic sales experience and aggressive approach that most sales forces in companies never learn.

The Genius of Cydcor: Cydcor itself is genius. The company has no risk or costs associated with it and leaves everything to it's pawns who supposedly own their own companies but yet still allow Cydcor to control everything it does. If an office opens up, Cydcor makes money. If an office closes down, there are no costs associated to Cydcor, everything is in the owners name so there is no liability to Cydcor itself. If something uncontrollable happens to an employee, i.e. injured reps, lawsuits, Cydcor will provide council but still will not be under any legal responsibility for any of the actions. If you got a job in the Cydcor main office, you more than likely will be pretty secure and make a good buck. If you join one of the companies under the Cydcor umbrella, you're more than likely to accrue debt and live in practical poverty for your days with the company.

Cydcor is a company that gives you the skills you need to manage yourself and other people. Its what you put into it, if you don't want to work the long hours and can't think big picture, then yeah its probably not for you. Its called DELAYED GRATIFICATION, you don't see the results right away. Cydcor works with only Fortune 500 companies, its not as if this is some kind of street vendor selling fake purses. Everything is laid out in the interview and most people don't make it because they can't see long term. I have been working for a Cydcor market share for a few months now and I love it. This is free school. They give you everything you need to become a better leader and entreprenur, Sales is hard no matter what company you work for, but don't mistake a person's lack of experience leading them to not hit goals with a poorly run company because that isn't the case at all. Cydcor is a company full of overachievers and the high turnover rate is just a product of weeding out the people who dont want it as badly as they thought.

It seems to me that this company is unprofessional. I have fallen victim to a few companies like this one before. Their true colors are revealed when you call them out.
I am an American worker that has dreams of a successful future. I am also entrepreneur at heart. That does not mean that If I work at Mc Donalds I'm any lesser that that! Most Americans are realists. That does not mean they have no future. They just tame their dreams to keep from drowning in an a flood of unrealistic expectations from a company like KJC concepts. They do work hard making ends meet, supporting families, paying bills, and SAVING for their dreams. Working 11 hrs a day running around chasing pointless leads, wasting gas at the same time isn't that dream. Like I said, I have done this before. I just want to say Thank you for this report.
I had an interview with this company. Now I'm just not going to show up.
And as for all of the other people that work hard in this country, I say thank you. Your not alone!!!!
Oh and as far as retirement goes. Not many, if any, companies offer that anymore.

Get real and keep it real
Daniel

No, Cydcor companies are not for people who expect their employers to be ethical, honorable, and truthful.

The dishonesty starts with the recruiting ads and the first interview. They never tell you that it is a door-to-door sales job, commission pay only, no fringe benefits, no holiday, no sick days, and no vacation.

You have to drive long distances to the areas they assign to you and they don't pay you for gas. They tell you that it is tax deductible, even though they know that employees' tax situation would not result in any tax deduction.

Cydcor companies have about 1,500 employees. Because of the high turnover rate they have to hire 25,000 people a year.

They lure you into working long hours and low pay with the promise of owning your own company. But they don't tell you that every year while they may open 160 offices, they also close 160 offices.

Think about it. Every year 160 guys become owners. And every year 25,000 people are hired.

No, Cydcor companies are not for people who expect their employers to be ethical, honorable, and truthful.

The dishonesty starts with the recruiting ads and the first interview. They never tell you that it is a door-to-door sales job, commission pay only, no fringe benefits, no holiday, no sick days, and no vacation.

You have to drive long distances to the areas they assign to you and they don't pay you for gas. They tell you that it is tax deductible, even though they know that employees' tax situation would not result in any tax deduction.

Cydcor companies have about 1,500 employees. Because of the high turnover rate they have to hire 25,000 people a year.

They lure you into working long hours and low pay with the promise of owning your own company. But they don't tell you that every year while they may open 160 offices, they also close 160 offices.

Think about it. Every year 160 guys become owners. And every year 25,000 people are hired.

No, Cydcor companies are not for people who expect their employers to be ethical, honorable, and truthful.

The dishonesty starts with the recruiting ads and the first interview. They never tell you that it is a door-to-door sales job, commission pay only, no fringe benefits, no holiday, no sick days, and no vacation.

You have to drive long distances to the areas they assign to you and they don't pay you for gas. They tell you that it is tax deductible, even though they know that employees' tax situation would not result in any tax deduction.

Cydcor companies have about 1,500 employees. Because of the high turnover rate they have to hire 25,000 people a year.

They lure you into working long hours and low pay with the promise of owning your own company. But they don't tell you that every year while they may open 160 offices, they also close 160 offices.

Think about it. Every year 160 guys become owners. And every year 25,000 people are hired.

No, Cydcor companies are not for people who expect their employers to be ethical, honorable, and truthful.

The dishonesty starts with the recruiting ads and the first interview. They never tell you that it is a door-to-door sales job, commission pay only, no fringe benefits, no holiday, no sick days, and no vacation.

You have to drive long distances to the areas they assign to you and they don't pay you for gas. They tell you that it is tax deductible, even though they know that employees' tax situation would not result in any tax deduction.

Cydcor companies have about 1,500 employees. Because of the high turnover rate they have to hire 25,000 people a year.

They lure you into working long hours and low pay with the promise of owning your own company. But they don't tell you that every year while they may open 160 offices, they also close 160 offices.

Think about it. Every year 160 guys become owners. And every year 25,000 people are hired.

You just criticized this person in an attempted defense of your opportunity. You just bashed working Americans everywhere for no apparent reason and then called them cowardly for not giving their name. Don't you think you should state your name in order to give your rebuttal some value?

You just criticized this person in an attempted defense of your opportunity. You just bashed working Americans everywhere for no apparent reason and then called them cowardly for not giving their name. Don't you think you should state your name in order to give your rebuttal some value?

You just criticized this person in an attempted defense of your opportunity. You just bashed working Americans everywhere for no apparent reason and then called them cowardly for not giving their name. Don't you think you should state your name in order to give your rebuttal some value?

Obviously, our company is not for everyone. It is very hard work, but the dividends defintely pay off. We look for someone with an entrepreneurial mindset, not someone who just wants to come in and work 8-5 for 35 years and then get a measley retirement. Noone is forced to come to team night or go on road trips. Is it recommended? Absolutely, because it helps to build relationships, but we do not require someone to attend to either. Any negative report on KJC cannot be taken seriously coming from someone that will not give their name. Its an obvious defamation without cause and I encourage the writer to take a break from McDonalds and come forward without being a coward. KJC has many satisfied employees who are working towards a long-term opportunity for success. If someone believes that they have what it takes, then we offer them the opportunity to control their future. For those who would rather take orders for the rest of their lives, our self-disciplined program will be beyond their ability to grasp.