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Complaint Review: Larry H. Miller Used Car Supermarket - Sandy Utah

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  • Larry H. Miller Used Car Supermarket 10910 South Automall Drive Sandy, Utah U.S.A.

Larry H. Miller Used Car Supermarket. Prestige Financial Services, Landcar Services SOLD a salvage vehicle without disclosing it, fleeced by the best deceptive company ripoff BULLY Liars Sandy Utah

*Consumer Comment: WHATEVER

*UPDATE Employee: Prestige doesn't sell cars

*Consumer Comment: Sandy, Rip-off capitol of UTAH

*Author of original report: Larry Miller to expand search !

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This happened 10 years ago, but I just found this site. I bought a used car from Larry Miller at this location when it was first opened under a different moniker. It was a salvage vehicle, which was never disclosed to me as required under Utah law. I bought a Mitsubishi Galant with all the bells and whistles. I should have listened to the salesman, he wanted me to buy the Plymouth next to it for the same price and seemed troubled that I insisted on the Mitsubishi. I mean I wasn't stupid, the Mitsubishi was more car for the same price! The car had anti-lock brakes and all wheel drive with automatic power distribution. My wife had her first auto accident in 20 years three days after we bought this car. When the new plates arrived the dealership was kind enough to install the plates and put the registration papers in a SEALED envelope in the glove box. Then, when all of the financial loss over-burdened my budget and I got behind in payments they were right on top of repossessing this vehicle. I was wise enough at that point to let them keep it. The repossession led to paper work that opened my eyes to the salvage status--two years later after the statute of limitations had run out on this CRIME in Utah. (Let me say, as an aside, that the Mitsubishi dealership I went to, for service, is cupable, also. Their service department had the history of the vehicle on their computer and their representative actually had to dance to keep from disclosing the salvage status to me, when it became obvious that I did not know.) Of course, this was financed through Lary Miller's Prestige Financial Services because no other loan company would have touched this scammy deal without disclosing the facts to me. A worthless extended warranty was thrown in with Larry Miller's Landcar Services company. To confuse matters they kept barraging me with different contracts with different terms, seven of them by my count. And, to add insult to injury, Larry Miller and co-conspirators wrote off their 'loss' on this vehicle and reported it to the IRS as a 'gain' on my part. Maybe the statute of limitations ran out, but the IRS didn't swallow that BS after seeing my documentation. Utah is full of sheep and I was fleeced by the most expert wolf among them! Larry H. Miller is represented by LIARs. Larry H. Miller perpetrates FRAUD. Larry H. Miller CHEATed me. And just for good measure-- He is documented to have assaulted at least one haggler while his basketball team played, so Larry H. Miller is a BULLY. No wonder the mailman chokes when it is time to deliver, he knows this guy doesn't deserve any accolades! Just for the record, this last remark is only my humble opinion. Gregg Fresno, California
U.S.A.

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#4 Consumer Comment

WHATEVER

AUTHOR: Gemsnake - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, March 18, 2011

So what if Prestige is a sub prime lending company?  There are other reasons people have to do subprime lending...such i.e. self employment among other things.  We got a loan from them and I will never do business with them again.   Most Financial Institutions have hardship settlements and will waive fees if you can prove financial hardship...Prestige doesn't do this.  And the reason their collectors are so aggressive is because they are offered weekley prizes such as 50" LCD's, cars, computers, vacations, etc etc.  The top collector wins a prize!!  And these are ellaborate.  So now you know why they won't waive fee's work out hardship settlements, etc etc.  We were also lied to about our interest rate.   I can't remember what it was...but it wasn't an 8.75% that we were told we were getting, as well as we were told that the rate would go down after so many payments were made on time that didn't happen either.  We went 4 years on a six year loan without any late payments...now we are three months away from being out from under their wrath and have had financial hardships over the couple of years and they won't give us a break..do you really think after almost 6 years we are just going to quit making our payments?  Because we do value our credit.   But I will NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN.  I am done with new cars.  We have ended up paying about $28,000.00 for a $13,000.00 Vehicle.  They are a joke.  And you know let them call my neighbors...they will get laughed at.  My neighbors know first hand what these hard economic times have done to us...as well as have seen this car sitting broken down in the driveway......lol..JUST DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.  AND WHOEVER WROTE THIS YELLING AT PEOPLE ABOUT HAVING BAD CREDIT, I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR CREDIT.  s**t HAPPENS.  MEDICAL BILLS, JOB LOSSES, PAY CUTS, HOUR CUTS, THESE ARE HARD ECONOMIC TIMES AND FOR YOU TO BE SO CALLOUS WITH THAT STATEMENT, SOMEDAY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN TO YOU AND IT WILL BE KARMA.  DON'T JUDGE.

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Prestige doesn't sell cars

AUTHOR: aperson - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 02, 2010

Presige doesn't sell cars, they FINANCE them.  Which means that if you bought a bunk car from someone it's the dealership that sold you the car and is responsible NOT the finance company.  They just gave you the money to buy the vehicle that YOU wanted to get.  Did you personally have them come out to inspect the vehicle?  I don't think so. 

You should have checked your loan documents.  If indeed you purchased a salvage title when you signed paperwork that stated otherwise then the vehicle would be a full recourse and you could return the vehicle within the first 12 months and not be held responsible.

THAT'S the law.  Do your homework instead of just bitching about it.  Car salesmen are liers... everywhere, not just at the LHM dealerships.  They don't make money unless they sell cars so they are going to tell you just about anything to get you to buy one.  You should be smart enough to do your homework before commiting to a legally binding contract.

And last but not least, they only reason that Prestige is the only company that would finance you is because you had shitty credit because your probably don't pay any of your bills and you just sit on your a*s complaining how much the world hates you and how unfair everything is.  Prestige is a sub-prime lender, a second chance finance company.  Which means you had a history of bad credit and you probably couldn't even get financed for a nice new car.

Some advice: Learn to pay your bills and stop complaining about how unfair life is, its never going to get better for you until you do.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Sandy, Rip-off capitol of UTAH

AUTHOR: Gregg - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 07, 2005

I can only shake my head at the unscrupulous business practices in Sandy, UTAH.

There are NUMEROUS complaints on this site about various dealerships on Auto Mall Drive in Sandy, Utah and other locations around the Wasatch Front.

What do they have in common? Why Larry Miller (the KING of sleaze, in my opinion) and his family.

Let me list a few of the dealerships we are talking about:

Larry Miller Subaru
10920 South State
Sandy Utah 84070

Karl Malone Toyota
10990 S. Auto Mall Dr
Sandy Utah 84070

Stockton to Malone Honda
10860 S. Automall Drive
Sandy Utah 84070

Larry H Miller Used Cars
10910 Auto Mall Dr
Sandy Utah 84070

Seeing a trend here?

Larry H Miller Dealerships
10985 Auto Mall Drive
Sandy Utah 84070

Other locations:

Larry Miller Hyundai
8633 W Bell Rd
Peoria Arizona 85382

Larry Miller Toyota
8425 W Bell Road
Peoria Arizona 85382

Larry Miller Sundance Dodge
222 Auto Drive
Boise Idaho 83686

Larry Miller Toyota
7300 North Broadway
Denver Colorado 80221

Seeing another trend?

Obviously this thief has no scruples. There is even a ripoffreport about a program to teach you how to be a sleazy salesman....for $500!

I believe the system they use is a variation of the Johnson system. Wear the shopper down. Confuse the shopper with different deals. Say one thing and put another in writing. Bait and switch. Bait and switch. Bait and switch. Sell damaged merchandise as un-damaged goods. RE-write the paperwork numerous times. The shadiness and sleaziness knows no bounds!

Word of mouth and reports, like the ones here, should slowly erode this scumbags customer base; so watch for name changes and 'under new management' claims.

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Larry Miller to expand search !

AUTHOR: Gregg - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 03, 2003

I used the word haggler when I meant heckler. Sorry, but I am such a perfectionist.

I was suckered and separated from my money. I was a fool to let it happen. I did, however, learn from the experience.

Don't fall for the line this scuzbucket's representatives hand you. Don't let them wear you down. LEARN from my experience.

If they touch you, it is assault.

If they keep you from leaving, it is kidnapping. Note: you may have to be assertive and/or abandon your vehicle. Touching or assaulting them to leave is not an option. Do not stoop to their level. It puts you in the wrong. It also allows mumbo jumbo about 'citizens arrest'.

You gave them your vehicle willingly, it is not theft. This is referred to as conversion. You turn over control of your vehicle for a specific purpose. Your vehicle is used for another purpose, that is conversion. A vehicle cannot be a hostage.

The authorities have a bias for the tax payer, and against a 'transient'. A 'transient' is whomever the tax payer finds objectionable.

If you live in Utah, you are accustomed to this crap. If you just moved to Utah, get use to it. If you are going to a Miller dealership in another state, all I can do is shake my head.

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