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Complaint Review: Leo Palmer - California

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Leo Palmer Leo Palmer Scam Artist and Liar California

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I found Leo Palmer while researching online business.  He represented a company called Tidom.  Tidom is a wonderful company and once I got away from Leo the Liar, I started prospering.  I rue the day I ever met this man.  The company has five levels to come in on.  2000, 3500, 6500, 12500 and 22500.  I had researched how the company does business and found it to be a reputable company.  I came in at the top level.  Leo promised to help me build the business.  He claimed to be a Christian businessman, which I found out was a bunch of lies.  He was always using Christian terms and called me brother. Boy am I a brother of the devil.

 So I struggled along trying to make it work.  I had no sales.  Leo sold me some bogus leads which he promised to deliver to me.  On his web site, he said these leads are exclusive to you Jim.  And the web site promised for him to send me these leads.  So I had him run a campaign for me.  10,000 leads for $300.  So he ran a text campaign.  Out of this supposed 10K lead I got about 5 calls.  Most of them were dead broke, and could not even come up with the $2000 to start up a business.  Leo assured me that I would get at least one new customer from each text blast. I did not.  And several people I talked to said they had received texts from some other person.

 When I pressed Leo to send me the list, he said he did not do that.  I had screen captured of his promise, and then went back to look at the web site again, and he had changed it.  Leo, Leo, Liar, Liar, pants on fire. Caught and challenged by Jim.  Obviously he was selling the list to several people.  And of course never sent it to me.  

So I lost interest in this liar, and knew that the concept of Tidom and their one up really worked.  I found another man with a similar company.  I told him my story, and he let me join his company and qualified me all the way to the top, for about half what it normally costs.  This is a great company and my sponsor is very good and answers all my questions.  

And so last year in late December, I got an email from a guy named Tony Smith.  He said he had found my Tidom site, and wanted to come in at the top level.  He did not give me his phone number and said he was out of the country in China.  Here is the email.

Hi Jim,

I have seen this program before but I have never seen such an amazing marketing technology before. I truly want in. I am going to be joining at the $12,500.00 level or the $22,500.00. I am outside the country as we speak. I will be back on the 3rd of January. I will call you to arrange the sign up. I am very familiar with this program but the only reason why I want to join under you is because the marketing system that you are using. I do have some questions about it. What is the cost to do this texting system, is there a cost based upon the amount of text you send, do I need to buy my own leads and lists or do you provide them to me. Also what are the other cost associated with this program besides the actual  $22,500.00 and the administration cost of $495.00? Can I pay you using a bank wire or a cashier's check?

I am in China for the holidays so I do not have a good working cell phone number to use. I am 100% in though. I have several ways for marketing but I am blown away with yours.

Can't wait to get started, one last question, in what state are you at?

Sincerely,

Tony

So I told him about this other company and tried to get him to join me in that and get away from Leo the liar.  He sent me this email then.

 

Jim,

Thank you for responding to my email. I do appreciate your input and comments. I have done lots of research and  I am 100% sold on Tidom. I have decided on jointing them. Are you still doing Tidom? Can I sign up under you if you are ? If not, would you direct me to the person who you signed up.  I am extremely impressed with the marketing system in which you found me, In answering your question, you had sent me a automated text and that was what got me interested a few months back. I had some family and health issues which kept me distracted until now.

I need you to respect my decision to want to do Tidom. If you cant help me with it, I will understand, but please do not attempt to convince me otherwise and please respect my decision. Your emails that you sent me a few months back, you spoke extremely highly of Tidom and that of your sponsor which you had mentioned had a one of a kind marketing system.

In the event that you are still active and are willing to help me join Tidom and Tidom only. I do have some additional questions and comments. I did some more due diligence about Tidom and the different levels that they offer. I will be joining at the 22k level. I intend to be very aggressive with the marketing and I do not want to lose out on any opportunities.

I have been involved in two other programs in the past which are also high ticket and I joined at mid levels, more than once I lost big money and future sales to my sponsor due to the fact I was at a lower level than she was. I wish she would of told me and explain to me what you guys call a "roll up". After watching your videos again, it came clear to me that the best way to maximize the compensation and profits from this business is to come in all in.

This brings me to ask you a couple of additional questions. What level are you at? Are you qualified and if so at what levels? If you are not at the highest level, does that mean that I will be working with you and someone else? I have spoken with several people that I have worked with in the past and I am almost sure that upon getting started, I will have my 22k qualifying sale within days. One of my contacts has committed to sign up at the 22k right away.
This is one of my main motivations to step it up to the highest level from day one.

I am very experienced in this industry and I will not need much hand holding however, I will need some guidance at first until I learn your system. Will you make yourself available to help me at first?

I do apologize to be so direct but I will be making a pretty big investment and I want to make sure that I am picking the right team to be part of. Lastly, I will be sending you a bank wire once I sign up next week. I anticipate to do so on either the 5th or 6th of January. Will you consider to offer me any type of deal or extra value due to the fact that I will be signing up at the 22k and will have my qualifying sale right away?

I look forward to your response. I am planning to fly to southern California on the week of the 12th of January, I would love to meet you if at all possible.

Tony
 
And this also on Dec 31, 2016
 
Good looking family my friend, God bless you all. Two quick questions, are you all fully qualified with TiDom at the 22k level? Also, I will feel more comfortable sending you out a bank wire when I sign up next week, will that be acceptable to you? And lastly, my qualifying sale, will be Robert, he does have several restaurants in New Jersey and does a lot of cash business. He wanted to know if he could pay you in cash, and if so how can he send it to you safely and legally?

Thank you

Tony  
 
So I am thinking that Leo would get his money, and I would be fully qualified and get my first sale of$22,500.  In my mind I knew that Tidom was a great company and I would just break away from Leo and do it myself.  Leo even made a video about me. Of course when he reads this he will delete it.  
 
Well to my surprise, on Dec 31, last day of the year he calls me up and says he has a great offer to me.  If I give him $6,000 instead of $22,500 he would qualify me at the top of the Tidom ladder.  So in my mind, then I would get Tony's money and his first sale, and make 45,000.  Too good to be true. I wired him the money in New York where he was vacationing.  He told me on the phone he made $954,000 last year and was trying to hit a million. So Forrest Gump (me), Stupid is as Stupid does,
sent him the money and I was qualified all the way to the top.
 
Guess what.  Tony Smith never emailed me back. How stupid was I.  So in the meantime I found a great group of folks doing Tidom and joined with them.  They let me in for a small gift, and qualified me to the top.  I still have to one up the 22.5K but that is OK as now I have a group who is very supportive and I am making sales now.  So I had confronted Leo and threatened a lawsuit and to report him to the Tidom ownership. I confronted him about Tony Smith and of course he denied it.  "Oh brother, I am an honest Christian businessman and would never do something like that."  Liar, Liar, Liar.  I told him to send me my $6,000 back and we could get on with out lives.  I am still waiting for that.
 
 So I signed up with Tidom with these other folks and paid by registration fee to them to get away from Leo.  I also found out the the email address for Tony Smith and Leo Palmer were on the same ISP originating in California.  I am sure I would win in court, but I decided against reprisal and reporting him. "Vengence is mine, said the Lord, I will repay."  So I will not retaliate and let God take this story and do what he wants with it.  I am postively sure that some folks researching Leo Palmer will read this and not join.  Hope it costs him lots of sales.  If some of this customers and trying to make Tidom work and they need help they can find me and I can help them.  I am easy to find on the Internet.  I made three sales in July 2017, and will ride this all the way to the top.  Hope this helps some to stay away from that crook.  
 

 

 

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