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Complaint Review: Lovesystems - Internet

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I signed up for a bootcamp with a company "Lovesystems" after some search on the internet about how to pick up women. After reading their reviews and being suckered into taking a bootcamp a few months ago, I discovered it was just like anything else in this world: A COMPLETE RIPOFF!

It was three days and two nights at a bar. I had read one of their books called Magic Bullets. I was pretty good at picking up women at bars, clubs and anywhere else at night. I figured these guys must be amazing. The first day of the seminar they went over "opening" and "attraction", which I already knew. They advertise that its supposed to only be an 8 person bootcamp but there were more people there than that. So, they called in former students to "help" or should I say try to help? Anyways. The entire class was filled with weird guys. They were nice people but just weird and really had no chance of getting girls at all in my views.

We go to the bar the first night and it was a complete joke. The instructors sit there, drink beer and tell each of us to go ask questions to girls with the openers we were given. They would then have some weird student be our wing man. It was downright pitiful and embarassing. No matter what the result was the instructors would ask how it went and then give some standardized answer if it didn't go well. It was like loser camp. I saw only one instructor actually demo on different sets but he clearly wasnt that good. He would get them to laugh and then leave. Big deal, anyone can do that. One instructor got very drunk and the others just kinda stood around watching, telling us to open and giving us the same standardized answer.

The same things happened on the second night out at a bar. The weird thing was this one student who kept saying how great it was. I wonder if he was a plan or something? I was pretty upset so I called to get a refund but was refused a refund because the guy on the phone said I didnt ask for one during the bootcamp. Thanks a lot. I would have rather flushed my $2,950 down the goddam toilet.

Peter
Daytona, Florida
U.S.A.

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#7 Consumer Comment

This sounds like a legitimate review

AUTHOR: Jimmie - ()

POSTED: Monday, November 04, 2013

This actually sounds like a very legitimate review of the company, I took a bootcamp and had a similar experience.  Also if you actually read his review he says that he actually DID ask for his money back, but waited until he was home to call the company itself.  The company then told him that he wasn't qualified for a refund because he didn't ask for one AT the event.  Lovesystems actually expects you to ask the very people who ran the bootcamp for a refund when you're there in front of all the other students.  Believe me when I say that this experience is very uncomfortable and awkward to ask for a refund in these circumstances.  

If the company really wanted to create a fair refund policy, they would give you a 24 hour window after the bootcamp to contact lovesystems and ask for a refund.  The types of people who take bootcamps are generally not assertive and would not ask for a refund in person, I would even say they should even allow students to submit refund requests via email.  If Lovesystems is so confident in their teaching methods, they would not make their refund policy so stringent as students would be truly satisfied and not ask for a refund.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

But it WAS a hoax

AUTHOR: Love Systems - ()

POSTED: Thursday, October 17, 2013

The OP even admitted it in a post on theattractionforums.com.

By the way, Love Systems does not own ripoffreport.  If they redact or remove information, perhaps it's because they became aware of the hoax. 

 

If it were a legitimate report (it's not - Love Systems bootcamps are nothing like this, as been documented many times over by real news organizations), all the customer would have had to do is use the money back guarantee.

Love Systems has successfully helped men succeed with women since 2004, and the money back guarantee has always been part of everything we do.  Our refund rate is lower than 0.5%, but it does exist.  A legitimate customer would have used it, especially since the very first thing we do on all of our programs is pass out a one-page sheet of paper that reminds clients of the money back guarantee policy.  Not only that, every customer has to sign it to show that he's read it.  Even though Love Systems has by far the best dating coaches in the world, this helps focus their minds that their job is on the line, every night of every program, with every client.  

Read unbiased reviews (positive and negative) of Love Systems here http://www.theattractionforums.com/reviews-dating-coaches-books-dvds/ or read what independent third-party media has to say here http://www.Lovesystems.com/media. 

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#5 Consumer Comment

Lovesystems is a scam

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, December 22, 2011

I was also ripped off by Lovesystems for the same amount of money. Nick "Savoy" Benedict is a scam artist selling 100% pure snake-oil.

Don't believe what the owner/employee above said. He is full of s***.

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#4 General Comment

Rerferences

AUTHOR: Dave - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, October 20, 2011

Why were the references in this article removed?

I seen reports about the bootcamp as being a ripoff, but I haven't seen any negative comments about the book Magic Bullets. I would be interested in seeing what people have to say about that.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Consumer #2

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, July 31, 2010

Hi, this is Consumer #2. If you want to figure out the truth behind this company, there is a great article you should read. There are two versions, one on (((Redacted)))
and another on (((Redacted)))
If you have been scammed by this company, threatened, or attacked in any way, or you believe and or know about these shady practices, please let me know. I would like anyone to either be a witness for the money they stole from me or if you are a victim, we could support each other, and go against the company. The power of people is immeasurable, numbers matter!


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#2 Consumer Comment

Company is A Scam

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 27, 2010

I find it hilarious that a company owner would handle a disgruntled customer in such a manner. Just stating that the report is a hoax and then going to provide more false information or links does not justify or support this company.

I can advocate for the user who filed this report because I am in a similar situation. This company has cheated both of us and essentially stole our money. The site that the owner has listed is his own scam site, this could even be seen based on how the site is constructed, it is a cheap design. On top of this, that entire forum and website is basically run by the moderators, with most of the posts and reviews being fake ones from them. The owner will probably reply with another no-substance post soon enough or maybe he will see this and not say anything.

If anyone has been in this same situation before, whether it is the one who filed this report, or one of the other users who have filed reports here, or anyone at all, who has been scammed by this company, please contact me. We will get a Class Action Lawsuit and some other form of attack going, until this company refunds us. Rest assured, the victims of this company will not stop.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Hoax

AUTHOR: Love Systems - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, January 28, 2010

This comment appears to be a hoax.  We have no record of anyone by this name attending any Love Systems program in the past year.

If you type "Love Systems reviews" into any search engine, you will find any number of legitimate reviews of Love Systems products and services.  For example:

http://www.theattractionforums.com/love-systems-reviews/

Love Systems can be reached at www.lovesystems.com for further information.

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