• Report: #959136
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L&W Investigations

  • Submitted: Tue, October 23, 2012
  • Updated: Sun, October 28, 2012

  • Reported By: Screwed by Neal Lyons — Miami Florida United States of America
L&W Investigations
182 Turnpike Road, Suite 101 Westboroough, Massachusetts United States of America

L&W Investigations LWI, Lyons & Wolivar L&W Investigations found guilty of fraud. Neal Lyons, CEO, admits under oath of making false representations. Westboroough, Massachusetts

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Rebuttal Filed by Neal Lyons

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not True,Facts totaly inaccurate

*UPDATE Employee: Neal Lyons is truely a crook

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L&W Investigations is a private investigation franchise and business scam.

In certified public documents obtained from the Orange County Superior Court on Civil Case No. 06CC00692, Neal Lyons was sued by eleven (11) plaintiffs for fraud.  The company settled this suit for fraud by paying $500,000.  

We discovered public, certified court documents from this case showing that his prior business partner, Michael Wolivar gave his sworn Declaration on March 6, 2006, and stated "...it appeared to me that Lyons and others associated with the franchising operations of L&W (Stuart Larimer and Scott Crowell), were targeting individuals who lacked knowledge of the investigative services industry for potential franchisees. I think it was Lyons who quoted Barnum and Bailey, 'there's a sucker born every minute' in referring to the franchisees. Lyons and others were basically telling potential franchisees misleading information in order to sell a franchise. Lyon's sales tactics ranged from gross exaggeration to outright deception...I and others at the office became increasingly uncomfortable with the actions of Lyons, Larimer and Crowell." 

He went on to say "Employees at Wolivar and Associates began to express concerns that L&W may becoming a 'Ponzi scheme'...Lyons threatened me with litigation if I disclosed certain information about L&W.  One of Lyon's expressions was 'intimidate and litigate,' which I understood to refer to his course of action regarding franchisees."

Multiple pages from this Declaration spell out how Neal Lyons, Scott Crowell, and Stuart Larimer lied to potential franchise owners simply to get them to pay them their $100,000 or more to own a "turnkey" franchise.

In another lawsuit filed with the Orange County Superior Court Civil Department, documents showed in Case No. 30-2009-00120252-CU-BU-CJC, for Breach of Contract, the three plaintiffs' in this law suit alleged multiple counts of business and contract fraud associated with the sale and operation of franchises sold under the names Lyons & Wolivar and L&W Investigations.

This suit was filed against Neal Lyons, his wife, Anne [Kathy] Lyons, R. Scott Crowell, Mark Green, and Stuart Larimer.  Multiple public documents were discovered showing that the company lost this case too. 

In the Final Award found online, the arbitrator, Superior Court Judge, Hon. Haley J. Fromholz (Ret.) wrote "Neal Lyons, L&W's Chief Executive Officer and principal witness, conceded under oath that he had misstated his work and educational background on numerous occasions, including in filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As a result, his credibility was seriously compromised."

The judge went on to write and identify the multiple fraudulent statements and lies told to entice the plaintiff to purchase a franchise. The specifics pretty much mirror the sworn Declaration made by Mr. Lyon's prior business partner, Mike Wolivar in the prior case noted above where Mr. Wolivar swore under oath that pretty much everything that Neal Lyons and Scott Crowell told potential franchise buyers was false, misleading, and grossly exaggerated.

The judge went on to say "Mr. Lyons, L&W's CEO, was especially able to lead the Enterprise because he had graduated from the University of Nebraska and earned an MBA at Harvard, and that he had been the president of Van's, a shoe manufacturer.  All of the representations were false." 

The judge also pointed out "Michael Wolivar, a well known and successful private investigator, was involved with the daily operations of L&W and would participate in training.  In fact, Mr. Wolivar had disassociated himself from L&W in 2003, and had done so, at least in part, because of what he believed to be unethical behavior on the part of L&W."

The judge also wrote "L&W had 150 national clients...In fact, L&W had a small fraction of 150 national clients..."  He also said "L&W employed over 100 people who would support franchisees in marketing and business development efforts.  In fact, L&W had 15 employees in 2005, and soon reduced that number."

In the judge's Final Award, the judge found "L&W's misstatements and omissions, detailed above, amount to fraud." 

The final judgment was Certified in the Orange County Superior Court against this company by the Hon. James J. Di Cesare in the amount of $564,928.67. 

In our research, we found multiple law suits filed by franchise owners, all claiming fraud and deception by Neal Lyons and Scott Crowell. 

We could not find any evidence that these people or company is even licensed in the State of MA to operate as a private investigation firm.  According the State, they must hold a valid license to operate and conduct business as investigators.  It appears that the principals in this company have never been licensed as private investigators in the State of MA.  In our research, we found that Neal Lyons may have fraudulently used another MA franchise owner's license, claiming that it was his, or the company's license whenever challenged or asked to provide a copy of their license.  If this is true, this company has operated illegally for years, thus making any evidence presented to the courts inadmissable and also fraudulent.  


This company is bad news.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Rebuttal Filed by Neal Lyons

AUTHOR: Screwed by Neal - ()

The rebuttal that was actually filed by Neal Lyons is totally false, and just another attempt to cover his tracks!  Look at the response.  Anyone who has EVER gotten any written material from Mr. Lyons has seen and knows that he doesn't have the faintest idea of how to use the English language or punctuate.  Guess they forgot to teach him that when he got his MBA from Harvard.  Oh wait, what I read in the public records, he admitted under oath that he NEVER attended any college.  Suspect his graduating from high school may even be in question based on his attempted writing skills.  

He mentions that Mike Wolivar never testified in the mediation.  Mr. Lyons forgot that it was an arbitration, not a mediation, so technically, he is correct...Mr. Wolivar never testified in a mediation, but his testimony can be found in the public records from the case filed by 11 individuals who alleged FRAUD, WON, and received a $500,000 payout because of his deliberate and intention falsifying of facts.  Neal calls it a nuisance case...gee 11 people all agree that he committed fraud, and his insurance company bailed because the facts were so strong against him that they would have paid out the policy limits anyways.  He forgot to mention the case of HIS insurance carrier filing a lawsuit against him for FRAUD.  Google "Navigators Insurance and Neal Lyons and see what you find.  Gee, that one got settled too by Neal releasing the company from their policy and refunding his money.  Does anyone else see a pattern here?  In the next case, he is correct.  They were not found guilty of fraud.  The judge found them GUILTY OF FLAGRANT FRAUD.  Technically, he is correct, there is a difference.  It was also noted in the public documents found on line that Mr. Lyons admitted under oath that he lied to the Securities Exchange Commission about his lack of education and professional experience.  Guess he learned how to fabricate the truth much earlier than trying to steal millions for unsuspecting franchise owners.  

The FACTS speak for themselves Mr. Lyons.  Log on to the website for the CA Orange County Superior Court Civil Cases and type in Lyons, Neal and see the multiple cases that come back on him.  Sorry Mr. Lyons, but your rebuttal is a total lie, just like everything else you say.  As the franchise owners have said for years...if Neal's mouth is open, he's lying!  

Nice try Mr. Lyons, but no matter how you spin it, the facts speak for themselves.

Screw by Neal - and I'm still a CURRENT owner!   
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not True,Facts totaly inaccurate

AUTHOR: Happy Franchise - ()

These statements about L&W or Neal Lyons being found Guilty are not accurate.Mr.Lyons has never been found guilty of such a charge,in fact the case this person is referencing is confused with a case from 2006.Mr.Lyons was found not guilty by an arbitrator of any personal wrong doing,and was dismissed.I know I did work for the company and saw documents.I also know these documents they refer to from 2006 11 franchisees was settled by Insurance where Mr.Lyons had no control of the settlement.And was considered to be a nuisance by Insurance company.Also there was a clause no discussion on outcome.Obviously someone not only broke their agreement but distorted the facts.

And Mike Wolivar never testified in this mediation.All not true.I hope someday people are held responsible for their own actions on the internet.You distort facts and call others liars and crooks.How are you any different?
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#3 UPDATE Employee

Neal Lyons is truely a crook

AUTHOR: screwed by Neal too - (United States of America)

Unfortunately, as a current franchise owner, I can attest to the fact that everything in this report is accurate and correct.   Neal Lyons is only interested in himself and if he will make a penny in the deal.  I have worked cased for him for Delta Airlines, and submitted my bill to Global Options who is the investigative company approved to handle surveillance for ESIS Insurance.  Neal contacted Global Options, telling them that our franchises were in reality branch offices, in stead of franchise offices, so he collected all of my billed invoices, and kept them. After months of trying to collect from this crook, he finally paid me after I threatened legal action.  

Neal Lyons and Scott Crowell will do whatever they need to to scam anyone they come in contact with.  I understand tha they have stoppped selling franchises. because they have moved into other areas to scam people. 

I have received numerours calls about Neal hirimg independent contractors to work cases for him  He has them complete the work, cuts and pastes there reports under his letterhead, signs the report as if he wrote the report, and never pays the invesitor. His response is simple..."Sue me, it will cost you $150k to sue me, and even if you win, I won't pay you a penny!j?  Seems to be his MO. 

The only thing that Neal Lyons and Scott Crowell are concrened with is how they will capture their last penny, regaurdless of who they steal it from.  They are both crooks and need to be in prison!

A Current Franchise Owner!

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