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Complaint Review: Massage by Carly - Interchicagonet Internet

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Massage by Carly is a fat ,old 50's something disgusting w**** that steals pics from the internet and posts them as herself.She also steals ads from other providers and is so crazy and abusive that she can't keep a room mate for more than a short time.She steals anything she likes. She also has called police on other massage girls and tried to get them arrested.This nasty wench is fake and nothing real about her including her phony niceness!

she is sick,sick sick bi polar,insanely jealous of other women and always tries to hurt them if she can by lying about them.and a grandma!!! Here are some of her fake backpage ads chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sultry-mind-and-body-work-your-happy-hour-is-here-44/12015517 ,

chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/enjoy-epic-pampering-here-today-44/14963924.Those are not her pictures,she's gross. And her ONLY job is being a h*o,she even lies about that on her stupid site that she stoled from another girl.

www.massagebycarly.com,

Stay away from this fugly h*o unless you want trouble...don't say you weren't warned!!

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#6 Author of original report

Massage Plus By Carly,(773) 688-9018,LE Snitch

AUTHOR: Fugly Carly Massage Thief - ()

POSTED: Saturday, July 06, 2013

The guilty habitually seek to discredit a new victim/s by shifting the spotlight from the dissent to elsewhere..

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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Carly, please stop trolling women.

AUTHOR: Holly - ()

POSTED: Saturday, June 08, 2013

ps -- my phone number is published with her fake information, but i am not any of these ppl or associated with law enforcement. ask her to provide proof that links my phone number to these girls and it is suddenly missing.

if you google my phone number, you will just get a bunch of trolling responsing from her. nothing linking any of us together. when i asked her to walk me through her so-called google reseach since all the links would not open,  she couldnt do it and hung up on me. also when i offered her help and proved my innocence, she said it was "irrelevant".

her story is GREATLY reported earlier is greatly miscontruyed -- she asked me a few months ago for a reference. even though i told her i dont provide references, informed her that i only provided a few massages while i was in undergrad (it's not a business at all) and have left the massage business over a year ago, i still provided a reference b/c the client in question is a good guy. (he never saw carly, but that he never spoke to her again once he gave her his references or have ever heard of these other women she is trolling.) she flipped out that i didnt have a website to provide her and started verbally abusing over text message, becoming very unstable and threatening me well past midnight. i have the texts for proof. i told her to either except the reference or not, but to please stop texting me. we never talked on the phone that time, it was all through text message. also, what was taking out of context is that i said given her instability, if i had a website i wouldnt give it to my competition who seemed unstable and like to troll. 

about a week ago she started verbally abusing me via text and phone with wild claims that made no sense. i just assumed she had the wrong number and informed her several times that i was not isabella or datemari, and was clueless about the website in question. she was making violent threats, telling me that she was obsessed with taking me down if i dont take down a particualr website she refused to name. i told her i owned no website, and if she wanted to take down whatever website to go for it. this started a slew of threatening and pyschotic texts and phone calls. then over the phone she admitted to me that she the only reason she thought it was me was because i was the only provider in decades that hadnt given her a website, so "it must be me" and that i must be getting back at her for telling this guy that i cant be used as a reference, even though for over a year ive been out of this industry. when i tried to tell her that she should probably change her behavior since in my experience these reviews are accurate in terms of her behavior towards women, she said, and i quote EXACLY "watch how bipolar i get b***h." she hung up on me and refused to answer my call back. (i gave it try for about 10min before giving it up.)

and low and behold, even though she is acccusing other women of trolling, she is trolling now. 

here are all our emails, you be the judge (email addresses deleted for obvious reasons). hopefully you can tell none of them prove that any of these girls are linked to this bad review (or any other review), nor that i am any of these women. the top email i fwded to another provider who is being targeted and filing harassment charges against carly:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Holly
Date: Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:49 AM
 
Subject: Fwd: here is the connection DONE
To: 
here is what i have from her via email if that helps...
 
she's clearly unstable. im fairly certain she just typed my phone number into info she emailed me. of course, conveniently the links proving my supposed guilt do not open. (she said she had the removed right before i opened them, but it usually takes some time to get thing removed if they are written by someone else, doesnt it?) she was obsessive about me taking down a particular website i supposedly created just to ruin her reputation, but when i kept asking for the website address, she refused to tell me. in fact, when i asked her for any conclusive information, she would just say, "im not telling you that b***h," "do your own research b***h," or "you already know that b***h" -- even when i would tell her that i cant help her if i dont know any of this. when i offered her legal and computer help for her to find out the real culprit, and even to meet in person as to prove my innocence, she said all of that was "irrelevant."
 
in fact, her only conviction is that it "must be" me (who is really myself, you, datemari, and isabella platinum) doing this b/c in the decades she's been doing this, im the only 'provider' that she's ever had trouble with (obviously not), and that my reference confirm to her that not only was me that did all this but she recorded my voice over the phone which he and other ppl confirmed that i was isabella platinum (who lives in tampa i later discovered). (he didnt, i checked. in fact he never spoke to her or saw her after the initial email.) but she thinks im getting revenge on her b/c after 2 or 3 months i give her a reference i was still pissed at her for stealing my business (even though she knows that i dont do massages). 
 
im not sure how she linked us all together, she obviously has no clue on how to research anything. and even stranger is how she just assumes that three different ppl are the same person in an elaborate ruse to f**k with her. it's pretty clear that at least someone doesnt like her and is doing this, possible different ppl, but judging by her behavior im not surprised. she is clearly unstable, paranoid and unhealthily competitive with other women.
 
I've saved the texts from her too if you need more info for your case. i hope everything works out!



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: >
Date: Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: here is the connection DONE
To: "Carly"


lady you are INSANE.
 
I am NOT ISABELLA PLATINUM.
 
by the way -- if you actually READ these reviews, you'd know that Isabella platinum LIVES IN TAMPA, FLORIDA. so I think you have your information all wrong here. It looks like your "research" has lead you into some false trails!
 
and once again, you've somehow managed to twist everything into some sort of delusional fantasy of your persecution. please stop contacting me, I have no authority to take down whatever reports you are talking about as i'm not the one posting them. keep targeting me, and see no results, or try to find the real culprit and get them taken down.
 
good luck.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Carly www.massagebycarly.com <> wrote:
the fact that U insulted me and didn't listen won't allow me to see anything else u say as nothing more than LIES..
 
u think u r a smartass
 
hmmm....


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Carly www.massagebycarly.com <> wrote:
I could care less who u impersonate or how many providers u r
 
I know that is how this business typically works and we don't run in the same circles
 
I didn't ask for any of this joe gomez gave me your info
 
he did that NOT me
strange how u have a rip-off report also
 
hmmm....  doesn't take a freakin brain surgeon to make that connection
 
REMOVE IT and stop posting ads anywhere about me and I will skip my way out of your life
HAPPILY  :)
 
this is cray-cray
 
 


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carly www.massagebycarly.com <> wrote:
just REMOVE and stop
and so will I
 
not engaging....
 
YOU STOP
I STOP...
 
this is all YOUR CHOICE


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Carly www.massagebycarly.com <> wrote:
 
 
 
 
Marinastherpy.com link* Hilarious!!!
 
 
 
From: H>
Date: Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: here is the connection DONE
To: "Carly www." <
 
*right. sorry speech-to-text mistake.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:57 AM, H> wrote:
Also, if you ever do find out who is doing this, I expect an apology and for you do the write thing and un-publish my number. If you were really interested in doing the right thing, you wouldn't publish my phone number for public use anyway. That's just abusive. Why would you want to be like your attacker?


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:51 AM, > wrote:
ps -- I just thought you should know that one of the components of being bipolar is exacting revenge on a target by stopping at nothing to destroy them; it's part of the mania phase, in which rationality and reason have no effect on this extremely focused emotional state. It is also a component in abusers, along with fixating your problems and accountability onto an external source as to deflect your own behavior and responsibility. Your interactions with me are only proving your bad reviews to be true, unfortunately to another person and not the one who originally perceived it and wrote reviews testifying it. Do you really want to be this person or someone with a good heart?


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:45 AM, > wrote:
im sorry carly, but you are clearly unstable and paranoid and need help.
 
I work as a women's abuse center, why would I want to abuse another women online in an industry I am no longer apart of? I help women like you! I never said that you created all these fake posts just to mess with me; I said that your "proof" linking 3 separate ppl as one person that is me is conveniently proof that doesn't actually prove anything except that you typed my phone number into this email to me. It's interesting how every single website that "links" my phone number to whoever is messing with you doesn't work.It's interesting that you claim to know ppl that prove it is me by tape recording my voice (whoa, talk about creepy!) but yet cant identify anyone that knows me. You probably didn't think I was going to check up on the one person that may possibly know me and find out you were lying. It's also interesting that you think that I would do this out of extreme jealousy of you considering I don't even do erotic massages or am in your business. Psychology 101 -- you're projecting your own paranoia on me because it is YOU who would really do this, deflecting your responsibilities and feeding your paranoia, which probably creates the very situation you got yourself into with whoever is writing bad report about you stealing their pics and trying to ruin other girls business. It's very common with abusers carly, which appears to be you -- youre the vengeful one here, not me. I'm trying to help. It makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER why I would try to "destroy" your business when I'm not even in your industry. I work at an women's abuse shelter for Christ sake! 
 
It's furthermore interesting how I'm NOT the person writing bad reviews about you, so I'm not sure what you think you are accomplishing me by bullying and brutalizing me. The problem isn't going to stop b/c you seem to create some serious enemies that aren't me. I don't have time for all this. And in my experience with you, those reviews are absolutely true in terms of how you unstable and paranoid you are. you do indeed come across as bipolar-seeming, a misogynist, and unnecessarily vengeful. You're targeting a complete stranger. Creating enemies among your competition -- who isn't me, by the way -- is only going to make your problems worse; you should try to figure out how to make connections and friends instead. Put all this energy into positive returns; it will get you much farther instead.
 
Honestly, as a feminist and a woman, I wanted to help out of the kindness of my heart -- I offered legal help, IT help, and even counseling help to try to help you figure who is ding this to you. I offered to meet you in person to prove to you that this isn't me, where you can help me understand all these different facets of a business I don't understand in order to help you. Not only did you refuse help to solve your problem or to clear this up, you manage to lie and twist everything into some paranoid unstable scenario with a complete stranger. You just want to focus your rage and revenge on someone, that is unfortunately the wrong person and me. Slamming me on the internet is only making me, an innocent person, a victim exactly how you were you made a victim, and you should be ashamed of your behavior. You need to get your s**t together and pull your head out of your a*s honey b/c there is someone trying to mess you up online, and spending all your energy exacting revenge on the wrong person (ME) isn't going to help you out one bit...
 
Again, I am still willing to help you and meet up in person to prove my innocence. If you want to post these emails, go ahead. I'm pretty sure anyone reading them will understand that I'm not the person targeting you. Any person who is trying to destroy your reputation wouldn't be this patient and want to help you solve your problem, nor would they be adamant about clearing their name. Calm down, think clearly, and stop indignantly threatening me, the wrong person.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Carly www.m> wrote:
Listen, you need to stop telling me that you want to clear this up then argue with everything I say.  There is nothing more to say because you want to argue with me and think I put that there to blame you.  Creepy, why would I want to put myself through this bullshit.  It seems only YOU have discussions with yourself on the Internet with datemari and isabellaplatinum as they are plastered all over the Internet.
 
I have sent u the links to what needs to be removed and that is it.
 
If it is taken down and I never have this crap come up with you again then I can pretend this never happen as long as you stop the drama.
 
If it is NOT taken down I will simply add that whole page that I sent you to my website and reference it all there.  In addition I will create a web page just like yours and promote it all over the Internet as you try to do with mine.  If I see one more backpage ad tomorrow that I have to remove I won't wait til Monday to do this.
 
You have my proof, to you it is not proof so there is no need to further discuss it. You know what is happening Monday.  There is 100% NO chance of my meeting you as you don't want to help. 
 
Don't call or email me again as I will not respond.  If you do I will ADD this email to the website also. 
 
 


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:45 PM, > wrote:
carly --
 
im sorry if I agreed with that post in how you've treated providers b/c that's my experience with you. I think you may have a problem with other girls b/c its not me doing this.
 
if you like some help, I am willing to help you. im pretty much going to keep calling you until we can talk. im sorry if you cant talk about this calmly but i still would like to meet up so i can clear my name. this is honestly not me. im surprised you haven't figure that out yet...
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I did NOT write this review; My Experience with Carly

AUTHOR: Holly - ()

POSTED: Saturday, June 08, 2013

hi --

i did NOT write this review. however, the women this review is about is convinced that i did and is now harassing me through text message, email, and phone calls, depsite that i am a complete STRANGER and am no longer in this industry (for over a year).

in my experience with her, her instability, paranoia and threat to women is absolutely accurate -- i know nothing about the other claims in this review. (i have been on her website, and i believe her pics of herself are accurate though.) she is bizarrely convinced that i am pretending to be 3 or 4 people and suddenly posting bad reviews about her. i have been contact with some other women she is targeting and they all report the same harassment and bizarre delusions from this complete stranger (as well as confirmed that they did not write these bad reviews).

despite providing proof of my innocence, offering to meet in person to prove my innocence, and offering legal and computer help and counselling to solve this problem for carly, she is obsessive with exacting 'revenge' on us by pubhlishing fake bad reviews, pubishing our phone numbers for harassment, and getting everyone she knows to "f**k with us." (we all have email proof if anyone so desires.)

i would like to the author of this report to contact me and share your experiences with carly. depsite what anyone may think, publishing someone private contact information is against the law and civil liberties, and will evoke a legal investigation, including into that person's business.  

in order to keep this industry safe, we need to stop internet trolling -- it only creates more victims, violence, and injury than solving problems. as women, we should be working together for safety and protection, not threatening each other. as a community, we need to be vigilant against such trolling and not let such incidents escalate in an already unsafe environment!

no client, no amount of money that may be lost is worth getting arrested, abused, (sexually) assaulted, or worse. let's all be adults here and handle problems with maturity rather than with our wounded prides and egos. let's keep this industry safe!

thank you!

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#3 Author of original report

Proof of Massage by Carly fakeness

AUTHOR: Fugly Carly Massage Thief - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, June 05, 2013

Nice you posted two rebuttals,one under a fake name,lmao and are trying to annihilate other providers to throw off the scent,lol. Google doesn't lie,sweetie! And neither do I! Oh and her board name is "safe1" ,so I am sure more girls will be coming out of the woodwork . Getting what a bully ,le snitch deserves!

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#2 Consumer Comment

The Opening Report is Bull****

AUTHOR: johnwalker - ()

POSTED: Monday, June 03, 2013

I have known Carly for over 2 years, have visited her many time his . Never once did anything this person is accusing her of happen . I only conclude through my experience that the opening writer a disgruntled individual with an agenda.

 I highly recommend Carly for her sincerity , honesty, and massage therapy. She has over 50 reviews to back her up andto justify her services .

 

J.W.

 

 

 

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This ripoff report is UNTRUE!

AUTHOR: massagebycarly - ()

POSTED: Saturday, June 01, 2013

Anyone who knows me knows that I pride myself on being an HONEST, REPUTABLE Provider in the Chicago Massage Community!  The person who wrote created this report is a provider who uses numerous fake alias'.  Here's how the nightmare began...  A New Client called, gave me several providers to use as provider references so he could schedule an appointment with me.  I asked for the most recent and most seen provider.  He said Holly at 312-218-2137 who I discovered is also known as Datemari, www.marinastherapy.com aka www.isabellaplatinum.com aka www.simplyfunholly.com  This "ONE" AKA (also known as) provider through numerous investigations using google is the same provider with multiple persona's.  Google it for yourself if you wish but it is nasty drama!  She posts trash using "Cadillacer" as her alias and that is how I discovered everything else.  Put it all together like pieces of a puzzle and learned of her deception!!  Mind you many of the links will NO longer work, they were removed by the provider communities I belong to because they are UNTRUE!

First I try to find something on a provider named Holly "to vet her" so I know she is a safe provider to accept a reference from.  Unfortunately, I find nothing on Holly using the 312 number or the name Holly.  I search some provider resources as well and nothing shows up.  I text her my name, website and let her know I will be calling shortly.   I call, no answer. She calls me back.  I explain I sent her my info, remind her who I am calling on behalf of then ask if he is safe to see.

She says something I have never heard up til then.  She immediately responds with "now why would I do that?  You are my competition"  I said oh, I'm sorry you feel that way.  I give provider references all the time for clients and am HAPPY to do so.  I attempt to further explain the many benefits of nurturing relationships with other providers.  She isn't having it and things get ugly, she shared that she was really mad that the client gave her private phone number to me.  I tell her I have never had a provider act this way and I will let the client know she (AKA) should not be used as a reference again in the future.

I let the client know of my experience with Holly aka Datemari, aka datemarina, aka Isabella Platinum aka simplyfunholly.  Afterwards the Internet attacks began on me, my website, my name and phone number.  Anyone who knows me knows I am an upfront provider, share some of my life as I am a "REAL" person with a "REAL" life!  This AKA provider used details from my website and provider communities I participate in then aired then all over the Internet in an attempt to tarnish my reputation.  She seems to accuse me of many of the things she writes about me.  LIES, made up fairy tales that are way over the top exaggerations and untruths. 

My clients and provider friends know I am ONE person - Carly.  I am far from perfect, have made some mistakes along the way but am a reputable and trustworthy provider.  I would never intentionally mean anyone harm who was nothing but kind to me.  Let's remember I told ONE person (the client) that she "AKA" should not be used as a reference in the future.  AKA is now telling the Internet World untruths about me, my business and even had the nerve to mention my children/family.  NOW that crosses a line with me which I will strongly defend!  OUR issue is personal and should have stayed that way.  AKA is wasting her money placing negative ads about me.  Who does that??  Only an Internet TROLL Stalker has time for that! 

I am addressing this here, at my website and moving on because I don't believe this kind of drama is good for business. While I don't believe it can damage my business personally.  I feel I must address it in case someone sees any of this online.  ONLY I Can damage & hurt my business by treating people poorly.  I have almost fifty TER reviews that are linked to my website.  I take pride in my work and actually ENJOY seeing and visiting with my clients!  All in all, I am blessed with a lovely repeat business that has grown over my few short years.  I still see clients that saw me my first few months in business.  For the most part this business has been good to me and I am grateful for it and met some great guys too!

I suspect "AKA" will be here shortly adding more FAKE persona's, telling more tall tales and lies. She is fabulous at that!  She kind of reminds me of Sybil a movie about a girl with multiple personalities.  Probably considered more Bi-Polar today.  Who will "AKA" be today??  Who will "AKA" attack today??  Numerous providers told me she is in her 50's not the youthful girl she pretends to be.  I take a more upfront approach and want to see clients that want to see me.  A mature, BBW with fabulous DDD's.  I would never want to waste MY or anyone else's time using fake pics and pretending to be many years younger than am I.  No bait & switch here.  My ad, website and reviews state Carly is 45 years old, a BBW or plus size Lady with amazing DDD's.  Lucky me.... 

I will end with a great quote recently posted to the provider community.  SUCCESS is the BEST REVENGE!  I Gotta go, SUCCESS is calling!  Hope it call for "AKA" too so she can move on and get over herself and stalking me.  Ain't nobody got time for that!!

My best to you all, Carly  :)

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