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Complaint Review: Milton, Chadwick, & Waters - MCW - Brad Cofield - Angie Harbinson - Los Angeles California

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Milton, Chadwick, & Waters - MCW - Brad Cofield - Angie Harbinson unpaid wages, scam artists, liars, unethical, independent contractor misclassification, ripoff Los Angeles California

*Author of original report: Brad says he used my money for a funeral

*Author of original report: Brad says he used my money for a funeral

*Author of original report: The deleted officers of MCW

*Author of original report: The deleted officers of MCW

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At the end of July 2005 I received a call from Angie Harbinson of Milton, Chadwick, & Waters who had found my resume on monster.com. MCW had been hired by another company to hire, train, and pay a sales team on their behalf. Within three days I was working as a salesperson calling on car dealerships selling advertising.

The ad I responded to on monster.com advertised for a full time salesperson although MCW set me up as an independent contractor. Brad Cofield was held out to be the supervisor of Angie Harbinson. He has been accused as a con artist already on another report on this site.

MCW set up a quota of $12,000 a month in sales for me and I sold $18,000 my first month and was fired by Angie Harbinson two days later. My earnings came to about $5,000 and to this date they have only paid me $2,000 and have quit communicating with me.

My firing stemmed from a disagreement I had with MCW and how they were handling me as an independent contractor. The control they were exerting clearly indicated they were treating me as an employee. I won't go into too many details only to say that Angie Harbinson was reading my private e-mail without my permission.

At this point Brad Cofield who on their web site is described as Executive Vice President of World Wide Sales became involved. I had spoken with the owner of the company who hired MCW and let him know what happened.

Immediately after that he spoke with Brad and I was asked to call Brad to see about staying on with MCW with the understanding Angie Harbinson was out of the picture and I would work directly under Brad. I turned that down as it was plain to me that Brad wanted to treat me as an employee. I then began work with the company that hired MCW.

I had spoken to Brad a few times on the phone and was not impressed with his sales philosophy but when I spoke with him after I e-mailed him saying I would not work for him is when I realized I was dealing with a very unprofessional individual. In our conversation Brad tried to tell me I had not been fired but had actually quit and he had proof.

He threw out the statement that I didn't have a recording of Angie firing me. At that point I knew there would be problems. Brad had obviously forgotten he had spoken with the owner of the company who hired him specifically about Angie firing me.

At this point I decided to check up on Brad, Angie, and MCW. Here is the link to another report on this site accusing Brad of being less than honest. The company involved is spoken of in Brad's bio at MCW. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff111004.htm

I have found out a number of things about MCW that I will list. Before that, I should say that Brad removed all of the executive bios yesterday after I e-mailed him his address and told him he was committing a criminal act by refusing to pay me and cutting off communication with me. I had already printed off the whole web site as I suspected Brad would pull something like this.

Right now I still can't find an actual physical address for MCW. The address on their web site is simply a PO Box. Two other addresses I obtained do not pan out either.

I have reported MCW to the Labor Commission, IRS, and EDD concerning my wages and to get a ruling that although they hired me as an independent contractor I was legally an employee. The trick right now is tracking them down.

Also, there are no records anywhere that MCW actually exists so if Brad could provide that I'd be pleased. They did pay me $2,000 but they paid me with a bank check as opposed to a business check. The reason Angie gave me is they wanted me to be able to have my money available ASAP.

If you google their business name all you get is stuff about the movie with Al Pacino titled "the Devil's Advocate." The funny thing is in that movie their is a law firm with the same exact name as MCW and in the movie there is a character named John Milton who happens to be listed as the CEO/Executive Partner of Brad's company.

Not one thing can be verified on the MCW web site. That includes every bio they list which includes six people. Here is Brad's bio.

Brad Cofield is the head of worldwide sales for Milton, Chadwick & Waters. Mr. Cofield joined the team in 2005 with the acquisition of Salesbuzzard.com. Previously, Mr. Cofield held the Vice President of Sales and Business Development titles with Salesbuzzard.com, Eclipse Partners, The Excel Group and Just4fun.com. Mr. Cofield is also a respected expert in the successful launch and growth of startup companies, a process with which he has been involved no less than nine times.

Among his other accomplishments, he led a sales operation at Salesbuzzard.com that ramped up revenues more than 3500% in just three years. Mr. Cofield holds a BA in Theology from The American Institute of Theology. He lives in the San Francisco bay area with his wife, daughter and his two pets. The family cat Charlie and the Japanese Akita Tora.

The only information I found was here when I did a search on salesbuzzard and I found two complaints against them. One listed Brad and another person who is listed as the Advisory Board Chairman for MCW as working a scam together. Of course, he denied it.

Right now I am out $3,000. I would warn anyone about doing business with MCW. To this day I can not verify even one other client in the history of MCW so I would welcome that here from anyone from MCW who cares to reply. Brad Cofield early on said his first priority was to pay me my earnings.

The owner of the company who hired Brad has long ago sent Brad the money with the expectation Brad would pay me immediately. MCW also earned a percentage based on my sales. Another thing worth noting is Brad Cfield himself took a month to sell for the company who hired him and he failed completely. Also, I was the only person to this day who has sold anything for them and they have chosen to keep my money. Beware of MCW and Brad Cofield.

Allan
Buena Park, California
U.S.A.

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Brad says he used my money for a funeral

AUTHOR: Allan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Brad has not communicated with me for a few months. I have talked to Angie Harbinson but she wants nothing to do with me and thinks I'm going a bit overboard in pursuit of my money.

Well Brad has proven himself to be a seasoned liar and he has lied to the owner of the company who hired him about me as well as saying he used my money for a funeral! I'll simply quote him directly and comment.

Here are his first comments.....

"I am not going to talk about Allan Adams with you. He is leaving me messages saying that both of you are planning on suing me and using "all of the deals2cops resources" to do this. He also is saying that you are telling him that I am ripping you off. He has also stated that you are cc'ing him on our emails . If that is ture it's all third grade bulls**t so I don't care."

The thing is.... each thing he states is a bold faced lie and I dare him to provide proof because it does not exist. Remember, this is the alleged VP of World Wide sales talking here.

Below is the final gem from Brad's communication with the owner of the company.....

"As far as Allan goes, I cannot even talk to this guy. I have enough trouble without getting screamed at by this guy. Listen, the cash flow was slow (but I believed that it was going to go up in a big way) I got caught off guard by the sudden death of a close family member. I made a judgment call to help lay to rest this person thinking that the money would be regained without a hitch. I was wrong, s**t happens. Do I feel good about it? No, did I anticipate it going this far? No. The fact is that we are talking about $2518.00 that is twelve days late. That's a small claims case. Case in point that you are late in paying me $1500.00, but am I calling you six times a day and threatening to broadcast your home address all over the internet? No. I need the cash myself but I understand that sometimes things happen. I can cry about that or I can try to make more. It is my choice, Allen also has that choice, he prefers to try to make life hard on me instead of making more money for himself and you. That is his call. If I had it to pay, I would pay him right now. but I am not going to bow down to the other demands that he adds on. I am sure you will forward this email on to him so now he has the information."


What's important to remember Brad supposedly represents a company that has worked for Fortune 500 Companies and in his bio his exploits are detailed although I think it's all a crock. Again, I'd love for Brad to provide proof.

So what is the VP of World Wide Sales doing in using my money to help pay for a funeral? Does that sound the least bit professional or simply a questionable sob story? You be the judge. But how can such a large company be so broke? Brad often told me how he oversaw untold millions of dollars for various clients. I would love to see himshow me proof of just one. Fat chance.

He then talks about my other demands. I don't seem to recall them. Maybe he can cite them. That would be hysterical. I simply want money that was given to him by the owner of the company that hired him with the only purpose being that Brad give it to me. But here he admits he used it for an alleged funeral. I simply can't buy it.

Right now the goverment can't even confirm his company exists. They simply put up an address that was a PO Box and used an 800 phone line. So since I don't know if that company is a corporation, LLC, partnership, etc. I can't pursue him for my money. My option is small claims court but I'm not sure that would be wise as he might simply weasle out of that.

I earned my money honestly only to have this man steal it from me. And I'm not the only person on this web site who has issued a report on him.

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Brad says he used my money for a funeral

AUTHOR: Allan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Brad has not communicated with me for a few months. I have talked to Angie Harbinson but she wants nothing to do with me and thinks I'm going a bit overboard in pursuit of my money.

Well Brad has proven himself to be a seasoned liar and he has lied to the owner of the company who hired him about me as well as saying he used my money for a funeral! I'll simply quote him directly and comment.

Here are his first comments.....

"I am not going to talk about Allan Adams with you. He is leaving me messages saying that both of you are planning on suing me and using "all of the deals2cops resources" to do this. He also is saying that you are telling him that I am ripping you off. He has also stated that you are cc'ing him on our emails . If that is ture it's all third grade bulls**t so I don't care."

The thing is.... each thing he states is a bold faced lie and I dare him to provide proof because it does not exist. Remember, this is the alleged VP of World Wide sales talking here.

Below is the final gem from Brad's communication with the owner of the company.....

"As far as Allan goes, I cannot even talk to this guy. I have enough trouble without getting screamed at by this guy. Listen, the cash flow was slow (but I believed that it was going to go up in a big way) I got caught off guard by the sudden death of a close family member. I made a judgment call to help lay to rest this person thinking that the money would be regained without a hitch. I was wrong, s**t happens. Do I feel good about it? No, did I anticipate it going this far? No. The fact is that we are talking about $2518.00 that is twelve days late. That's a small claims case. Case in point that you are late in paying me $1500.00, but am I calling you six times a day and threatening to broadcast your home address all over the internet? No. I need the cash myself but I understand that sometimes things happen. I can cry about that or I can try to make more. It is my choice, Allen also has that choice, he prefers to try to make life hard on me instead of making more money for himself and you. That is his call. If I had it to pay, I would pay him right now. but I am not going to bow down to the other demands that he adds on. I am sure you will forward this email on to him so now he has the information."


What's important to remember Brad supposedly represents a company that has worked for Fortune 500 Companies and in his bio his exploits are detailed although I think it's all a crock. Again, I'd love for Brad to provide proof.

So what is the VP of World Wide Sales doing in using my money to help pay for a funeral? Does that sound the least bit professional or simply a questionable sob story? You be the judge. But how can such a large company be so broke? Brad often told me how he oversaw untold millions of dollars for various clients. I would love to see himshow me proof of just one. Fat chance.

He then talks about my other demands. I don't seem to recall them. Maybe he can cite them. That would be hysterical. I simply want money that was given to him by the owner of the company that hired him with the only purpose being that Brad give it to me. But here he admits he used it for an alleged funeral. I simply can't buy it.

Right now the goverment can't even confirm his company exists. They simply put up an address that was a PO Box and used an 800 phone line. So since I don't know if that company is a corporation, LLC, partnership, etc. I can't pursue him for my money. My option is small claims court but I'm not sure that would be wise as he might simply weasle out of that.

I earned my money honestly only to have this man steal it from me. And I'm not the only person on this web site who has issued a report on him.

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The deleted officers of MCW

AUTHOR: Allan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 25, 2005

For whatever reason Brad Cofield deleted this information from the web site www.mcwsalesforce.com when I let him know I had his address and that he was committing a criminal act by not paying me.

I would have to say the company is bogus as well as these officers unless Brad is willing to provide proof this is a legitimate company. All I can verify is that Brad Cofield and Angie Harbinson actually exist. None of the others ever responded to my e-mails.

The following is the bios of the MCW executives. As of today, nothing can be verified for any of these people. I welcome proof to be presented. I will say salesbuzzard.com did exist at one time but information about them is difficult to find. There is a complaint here already about them which specifically accuses Brad Cofield and George Krajewski of being scam artists. Supposedly MCW acquired salesbuzzard.com. What is interesting is that the MCW web site is basically a copy and paste of salesbuzzar.com right down to the agreement they have new hires sign. They simply removed a few things and changed salesbuzzard to read MCW. If you know of a way I can get solid information as to the real story of MCW I would appreciate it.

John Milton-Chief Executive Officer/Executive Partner

John Milton is more than the business visionary and chief strategist for the company - he is the most prominent and respected evangelist and thought leader for the fast-growing sales outsourcing industry, and has helped to pioneer breakthrough applications for corporate sales performance, branding and online marketing. Many major media outlets have interviewed Mr. Milton on the business value of sales outsourcing applications and the state of small business in North America. Mr. Milton is a recognized pioneer of the sales and performance outsourcing space. He is a graduate of Yale University and he currently splits time between his Manhattan apartment and his home in Malibu, California. Mr. Milton shares his life with his wife and two daughters.

Arlen Chadwick-Executive Partner

Achadwick@mcwsalesforce.com

Arlen Chadwick is a founding partner of Milton, Chadwick & Waters. Mr. Chadwick is responsible for Milton, Chadwick & Waters' customer and partner strategies for bringing the high-value applications of the firm's proprietary process to the marketplace. Mr. Chadwick is a widely respected thought leader on the business values of sales outsourcing and performance enhancement. He helped pioneer the business model of enabling revenue generation from territorial rights management, and has spoken on the impact of sales outsourcing and performance enhancement at many venues around the world. Mr. Chadwick holds an MBA and Masters degree from Concordia University. Mr. Chadwick lives in Seattle with his wife and his German Shepard Arpo.

Carolyn Waters- Executive Partner

Carolyn Waters is a co-founder and Executive Partner at Milton, Chadwick & Waters and a general partner of NFN Network. She previously served as a director at Eclipse Partners and Harbor Technology Group. She is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and holds an MBA from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. Mrs. Waters is currently enjoying semi retirement with her husband and son. She resides with her family in Philadelphia.

Brad Cofield- Executive Vice President of Worldwide Sales

Brad Cofield is the head of worldwide sales for Milton, Chadwick & Waters. Mr. Cofield joined the team in 2005 with the acquisition of Salesbuzzard.com. Previously, Mr. Cofield held the Vice President of Sales and Business Development titles with Salesbuzzard.com, Eclipse Partners, The Excel Group and Just4fun.com. Mr. Cofield is also a respected expert in the successful launch and growth of startup companies, a process with which he has been involved no less than nine times. Among his other accomplishments, he led a sales operation at Salesbuzzard.com that ramped up revenues more than 3500% in just three years. Mr. Cofield holds a BA in Theology from The American Institute of Theology. He lives in the San Francisco bay area with his wife, daughter and his two pets. The family cat Charlie and the Japanese Akita Tora.

Angie Harbinson- Executive Vice President Of Marketing

Angie Harbinson is Milton, Chadwick & Waters' Vice President of Marketing. Ms. Harbinson joined the firm in 2001. Ms. Harbinson is directly responsible for the high performance of the firm's marketing, advertising, and copywriting divisions. Previously, she was Vice President of Marketing for several firms such as The Mecklenberg Group, Syracuse Ventures and Luxman Perkins. In this position, she is responsible for building and executing a unified services and applications marketing strategy. Ms. Harbinson has successfully introduced several new product lines and launched a distributor relationship program that increased revenues. She is a frequent presenter at major industry events and has been invited to speak and chair sessions all over the world. She currently resides in California with her husband.

Bruce Angler-Chief Financial Officer

Mr. Angler manages all financial aspects of Milton, Chadwick & Waters business. As chief financial officer, he is responsible for guiding the company's growth, including subscription and license revenue, and all corporate financial matters. Mr. Angler comes to the firm from Nakagawa-Stevenson where he was CFO and vice president of finance and operations. He previously held management-level finance positions at Matsushita, where his responsibilities included helping to launch three subsidiary companies. He began his finance career at Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, and has been involved with other entrepreneurial businesses. Mr. Angler holds MBA and BS degrees from Santa Clara University.

George Krajewski- Advisory Board Chairman

George is a senior business executive with more than 20 years of experience, specializing in sales outsourcing, corporate performance and direct marketing. He has held the positions of president and chief executive officer, Salesbuzzard.Com, which was acquired by Milton Chadwick & Waters in 2005, chief operating officer, MLM The Magazine Inc.; and senior vice president and general manager, Leads Media. While at Salesbuzzard.Com, George conceptualized and developed a unique new sales outsourcing and direct marketing product family providing integrated revenue enhancement. With George's addition to board leadership, Milton, Chadwick & Waters is poised to take on the new millennia. George currently resides with his family in Boston.

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The deleted officers of MCW

AUTHOR: Allan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 25, 2005

For whatever reason Brad Cofield deleted this information from the web site www.mcwsalesforce.com when I let him know I had his address and that he was committing a criminal act by not paying me.

I would have to say the company is bogus as well as these officers unless Brad is willing to provide proof this is a legitimate company. All I can verify is that Brad Cofield and Angie Harbinson actually exist. None of the others ever responded to my e-mails.

The following is the bios of the MCW executives. As of today, nothing can be verified for any of these people. I welcome proof to be presented. I will say salesbuzzard.com did exist at one time but information about them is difficult to find. There is a complaint here already about them which specifically accuses Brad Cofield and George Krajewski of being scam artists. Supposedly MCW acquired salesbuzzard.com. What is interesting is that the MCW web site is basically a copy and paste of salesbuzzar.com right down to the agreement they have new hires sign. They simply removed a few things and changed salesbuzzard to read MCW. If you know of a way I can get solid information as to the real story of MCW I would appreciate it.

John Milton-Chief Executive Officer/Executive Partner

John Milton is more than the business visionary and chief strategist for the company - he is the most prominent and respected evangelist and thought leader for the fast-growing sales outsourcing industry, and has helped to pioneer breakthrough applications for corporate sales performance, branding and online marketing. Many major media outlets have interviewed Mr. Milton on the business value of sales outsourcing applications and the state of small business in North America. Mr. Milton is a recognized pioneer of the sales and performance outsourcing space. He is a graduate of Yale University and he currently splits time between his Manhattan apartment and his home in Malibu, California. Mr. Milton shares his life with his wife and two daughters.

Arlen Chadwick-Executive Partner

Achadwick@mcwsalesforce.com

Arlen Chadwick is a founding partner of Milton, Chadwick & Waters. Mr. Chadwick is responsible for Milton, Chadwick & Waters' customer and partner strategies for bringing the high-value applications of the firm's proprietary process to the marketplace. Mr. Chadwick is a widely respected thought leader on the business values of sales outsourcing and performance enhancement. He helped pioneer the business model of enabling revenue generation from territorial rights management, and has spoken on the impact of sales outsourcing and performance enhancement at many venues around the world. Mr. Chadwick holds an MBA and Masters degree from Concordia University. Mr. Chadwick lives in Seattle with his wife and his German Shepard Arpo.

Carolyn Waters- Executive Partner

Carolyn Waters is a co-founder and Executive Partner at Milton, Chadwick & Waters and a general partner of NFN Network. She previously served as a director at Eclipse Partners and Harbor Technology Group. She is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and holds an MBA from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. Mrs. Waters is currently enjoying semi retirement with her husband and son. She resides with her family in Philadelphia.

Brad Cofield- Executive Vice President of Worldwide Sales

Brad Cofield is the head of worldwide sales for Milton, Chadwick & Waters. Mr. Cofield joined the team in 2005 with the acquisition of Salesbuzzard.com. Previously, Mr. Cofield held the Vice President of Sales and Business Development titles with Salesbuzzard.com, Eclipse Partners, The Excel Group and Just4fun.com. Mr. Cofield is also a respected expert in the successful launch and growth of startup companies, a process with which he has been involved no less than nine times. Among his other accomplishments, he led a sales operation at Salesbuzzard.com that ramped up revenues more than 3500% in just three years. Mr. Cofield holds a BA in Theology from The American Institute of Theology. He lives in the San Francisco bay area with his wife, daughter and his two pets. The family cat Charlie and the Japanese Akita Tora.

Angie Harbinson- Executive Vice President Of Marketing

Angie Harbinson is Milton, Chadwick & Waters' Vice President of Marketing. Ms. Harbinson joined the firm in 2001. Ms. Harbinson is directly responsible for the high performance of the firm's marketing, advertising, and copywriting divisions. Previously, she was Vice President of Marketing for several firms such as The Mecklenberg Group, Syracuse Ventures and Luxman Perkins. In this position, she is responsible for building and executing a unified services and applications marketing strategy. Ms. Harbinson has successfully introduced several new product lines and launched a distributor relationship program that increased revenues. She is a frequent presenter at major industry events and has been invited to speak and chair sessions all over the world. She currently resides in California with her husband.

Bruce Angler-Chief Financial Officer

Mr. Angler manages all financial aspects of Milton, Chadwick & Waters business. As chief financial officer, he is responsible for guiding the company's growth, including subscription and license revenue, and all corporate financial matters. Mr. Angler comes to the firm from Nakagawa-Stevenson where he was CFO and vice president of finance and operations. He previously held management-level finance positions at Matsushita, where his responsibilities included helping to launch three subsidiary companies. He began his finance career at Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, and has been involved with other entrepreneurial businesses. Mr. Angler holds MBA and BS degrees from Santa Clara University.

George Krajewski- Advisory Board Chairman

George is a senior business executive with more than 20 years of experience, specializing in sales outsourcing, corporate performance and direct marketing. He has held the positions of president and chief executive officer, Salesbuzzard.Com, which was acquired by Milton Chadwick & Waters in 2005, chief operating officer, MLM The Magazine Inc.; and senior vice president and general manager, Leads Media. While at Salesbuzzard.Com, George conceptualized and developed a unique new sales outsourcing and direct marketing product family providing integrated revenue enhancement. With George's addition to board leadership, Milton, Chadwick & Waters is poised to take on the new millennia. George currently resides with his family in Boston.

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