MissJ Facial Plastic Surgery forum MissJ MissJ521@aol.com MissJFacialPlasticSurgery forum Solicits money from plastic surgery patients , trouble some , crazy , works for plastic surgery doctors, Internet

Part of what the OP posted is untrue, for "but we never heard her commenting about any plastic surgery done on herself."  Just search on her board for missj cheek implants to refute this. 

Can the OP please post here or on MissJ's board to clarify why they are doing this now?  If this is the same person, it appears he resolved matters with his surgeon several months ago and deleted a lot of negative posts and his blog(s) about that surgeon:

http://www.ratemds.com/social/?q=node/49926#comment-213363
"positively resolved" July 21, 2011: http://www.ratemds.com/social/?q=node/44725

So I don't understand why he -- if it is the same person -- is going after MissJ now.  Did something else come up recently, and this is the only way to put something out there?  Thank you.

I have known MissJ for well over five years. I am a former moderator on MMH and I can assure everyone that MissJ's expertise and opinions on MMH were well-received.  She gave of her time and expertise in the PS field at no charge on the public MMH forum. Due to MissJ's extensive knowledge of doctors and their default (her word) surgical area of expertise, she is able to suggest to those in need of PS those doctors best suited to their particular issue. Thus, her opinions and suggestions were/are always respected and welcomed on MMH and on any other site on which they are offered.

In all of the years I have known MissJ she has conducted herself professionally, honestly and ethically, unlike the original poster of this complaint. MissJ is the consummate professional.

I have been a poster on Miss Js board for a few years now and she has never been anything but honest, forthright and helpful.  I had my own private analysis with her which was extremely informative and helpful to me in finding the right doctor to achieve my aesthetic goals.  She is not greedy, money hungry or pro-doc, instead, IMO, she is extremely intelligent, amazingly savvy in all aspects of PS, as well as being very kind and generous.  Sad that someone who regrets the choices they *freely* made decides to take their frustrations out on her.

I have been an active member of Miss J's forum for over three years now and have been extremely happy with both Miss J and the forum as a whole.  There is now a nominal one time administration fee for membership to the forum, and that does not include private consultation services, legal services or any other possible professional services.  It is a place to openly discuss plastic surgery, facial aesthetics and other cosmetic procedures with other like minded people, not a place to try to garner free legal counsel or extensive 1:1 free aesthetic consultation.  Miss J does offer incredibly detailed and infinitely helpful private aesthetic consultations, and rightly so requires compensation for her time and expertise. 

It saddens me deeply to see someone try to exploit and discredit Miss J this way, especially considering she tried to help the complainant as much as she could.  It is libelous and misdirected.  I understand that he is unhappy with his personal plastic surgery choices and results, however none of which are Miss J or her forum's fault in any way, shape or form.   His situation is purely the result of his own choices, as no specific result or outcome is ever guaranteed with any procedure.   I certainly hope he realizes how childish and hurtful his libelous actions against Miss J, deletes this outrageous complaint and repairs the damage he has caused to poor Miss J's reputation.

http://missjfacialplasticsurgery.com/missjforum/yaf_postsm131158_Mailicious-internet-post.aspx#131158

I am including a link to my message board regarding this topic.

MissJ's forum was originally free. Because the forum contains no banner ads etc., she eventually started charging a one time fee of $15.00 for new signups, in order to pay for bandwidth. From time to time she will give full privileges to people in need free of charge. 

The additional money the complainer refers to is for a private evaluation, which is time consuming on MissJ's part. I'm wondering if the complainer was under the impression that the $15.00 was for a private consultation, which is not the case. MissJ freely disperses a great deal of information on the forum, but if you want a detailed private analysis of recommended procedures for your own particular situation, there is additional monetary charge. 

MissJ is not a nun, nor is she some kind of trust fund baby. She's just like the rest of us. She needs to earn her living, and $15.00 for several hours work doesn't really cut it in the 21st. century. People are welcome to view almost all of her forum free of charge. There are a couple of areas in the forum that are restricted to paying members, and that's where we 'let our hair down'. The typical non paying viewer to her site can gather lots of plastic surgery information, just by looking at past threads.
I am a satisfied member of the MissJ forum and I have never been solicited for money on her site, over a period of several years.

Just want to chime in regarding this individual's stated gripe against MissJ. I have known of MissJ (anonymously) and followed her posts since 2004, so I would judge myself to be more than just familiar with MissJ's credibility, professionalism, knowledge about plastic surgery techniques and related topics, and her genuine empathy for those who seek her advice. To describe MissJ as one who "lurks around plastic surgery message boards" is a gross insult. To say that in posting at MMH and other sites MissJ is "soliciting money from us plastic surgery patients" is completely inaccurate.

I can not comment on the poster's being charged via PayPal to join MissJ's board. I was not charged anything to join her board, but this is MissJ's decision. If she feels that revenue opportunities exist in a forum membership, that is her call. PayPal is a secure transaction intermediary for online commerce. To deduce that any confidential information would somehow be handed over from PayPal to MissJ to the surgeon in question is ludicrous. Rather, it is far more likely that the individual identified himself or his unique issues sufficiently on OTHER message boards (MMH, et al) - some of which share information with surgeons if legal action is threatened.

In the 8 years that I have followed the posts of MissJ, I have never gotten the impression that she is "pro doctor" much less pro any specific doctor. She may advise a person about a surgeon who she feels is competent for a particular procedure, but that is by no means indicative of her "working for a doctor" as the poster claims.

I find it pathetic and misleading that the poster accuses MissJ of going after him for more and more money. In reality, as MissJ states, she was informing this individual that getting genuine legal advice for his case would COST MONEY. Yes, lawyers do not work for free. I think MissJ went beyond the call of duty to offer to put this individual in touch with a qualified lawyer to help him go after the surgeon. Why is it that this crucial fact was not included in the poster's complaint?

Also, the poster claims that MissJ never talks about any plastic surgery procedures SHE has had done on herself. That is flat out false. On several occasions, MissJ has shared experiences going back 20 years on procedures she has had done - some she was pleased with, others not so much. To infer that MissJ somehow gets a kickback from the doctors she promotes is yet another wild fact error.

Without knowing who this scurrilous individual is, I am going to stick my neck out and say he is probably frustrated in having paid for a "botched" surgery, is now casting about for sympathy, and is doing his best to tarnish the reputations of the surgeon and MissJ - without even getting the facts straight. Such erroneous reporting - even on a site like Ripoff Report - lends not a dash of credibility to this person's claims. My advice to this poster: Get over yourself.

Miss J provides a professional, detailed consulting service for those after advice on PS. She draws on a range of experience, a great aesthetic eye, and a genuine interest and compassion for patients. She provides detailed an independent advice. I have no problem paying for this as I would any other service.

Miss J is a highly professional consultant for those interested in PS. Her advice is detailed, articulate, and reflects a diverse and deep experience base. I have no problem paying for this service, as I would any similar service or product. I have always found her generous with her time and experience. I am not sure what went wrong with this guy but given he isn't even a customer of Miss J, I have to question the basis for this complaint.

Hello. This is Miss J.  I am responding to the BOGUS complaint made about me and will explain the circumstances of this particular complaint.
 
First and foremost,  the complaint here is not actually from someone who has paid me for private PS consulting services.  Ironically, it is a complaint from a person trying to rip ME off of private consulting services.
 
Yes, that is correct.  The person lodging this complaint is from MALTA and had attempted to rip ME off of private consulting services; as to have private consulting services from me at no charge. 
 
Here are the facts and circumstances:
 
This is a patient from MALTA who, with absolutely NO private help from me, elected to choose a PS, on his own, based solely on the marketing of the plastic surgeon, (Paul Nassif).  Let me just say, that patients who do elect to compensate me for private time and attention as to choosing an 'on target' doctor don't have the type of problems this patient has had.  So, the patient, who is NOT and was NOT a private client of mine at all, used his own 'intelligence' to choose a PS for him self.  To make a long story short, the patient was not happy with his selection of PS.
 
Patient later got in touch with me for LEGAL advice as to how to go about dealing with this PS. I told the person (from MALTA), that although I am NOT a lawyer, I would be happy to get in touch with a legal expert I know who could
help him with intellectual property law and contract law and this would be the best approach for his legal issues with the PS of his selection for whom he was not happy with.  I made it quite clear to the patient that EXPERT legal advice (and from my own lawyer mind you who is expert in these matters) is NOT 'free' and NOT an extension of the very generous free advice I often give on public message boards.
 
In my opinion, it is perfectly appropriate for me to tell a person getting in touch with me privately and especially about LEGAL issues, that my capacity to HELP them is limited to getting a GOOD legal expert and also telling them there would be a charge (lawyers don't work for free) for any advice from my legal expert.  Hence, I told this person that if he wanted expert legal advice, I could get that FOR him but said legal advice would be at a fee which would go to the lawyer. It's rather simple:  Lawyers are NOT 'free' and that includes the very good lawyers I could get him in touch with for his problem.  I simply told him that.
 
Fact of the matter was this particular person, was angry that he was unable to RIP ME OFF for legal advice.
Fact of the matter is that I, myself, am NOT going to PAY out of my own pocket for a lawyer to help him.  Most reasonable people would 'understand' that although, I, "Miss J" have extensive knowledge in PS aesthetic issues and also
can hook one up with the right legal expert, this is NOT a service I offer or imply to offer for 'free'.  This particular patient from MALTA 'entitled' himself to legal services from lawyers I have to PAY MYSELF for the type of advice he needed and was angry with me that such services were not provided to him FROM ME when he wrote to me seeking 'help'.
 
Later, this particular patient from MALTA went on to complain about his PS on several PS message boards and used SEVERAL MULTIPLE IDENTITIES to do so.  Because I am a TRUSTED participant on the MMH boards and also because it is
their policy for ONE SCREEN NAME PER USER, I told the administration that this particular patient from MALTA was using SEVERAL different screen names on their board to complain about Dr. Nassif.  As a trusted provider of information on the
MMH boards, it's not a thing I can 'turn my head the other way' when I see board abuse as I witnessed from this particular patient.  Although I have no particular sympathies or affiliations with his particular PS (with whom he was
unhappy), I feel that it is quite UNFAIR to the other readers of a message board for one person to ABUSE the board by taking out many multiple IDs to complain about the same doctor. It's ETHICALLY WRONG for OTHER patients to be subjected to one (as this particular person from MALTA lodging the complaint about ME) pretending to be many "different" patients.  So as to protect the other readers who were FOOLED into thinking that there were many complaints about one doctor from "many" patients, I told the admin at MMH to check the IP of the "many" patients complaining to cross reference that the complaint was coming from an IP in MALTA.
 
Subsequently, this particular complainer was discovered as taking out MANY screen names and has now become VINDICTIVE towards ME.  The BOGUS complaint here is an EXAMPLE of that.
 
In essence, the particular person lodging this complaint is just someone who is MAD that I did not let him rip ME off for valuable private consulting services.  That is to say, the person complaining is NOT actually a person who financially compensated for ANY private services from me or my legal associates.  Fact of the matter is that he is angry that he did not get very valuable private info services from me for FREE.
 
I will mention here that one of the problems of my giving very useful, on target advice to public message boards on a purely volunteer basis as to help the most people possible, is that I often run into very selfish, self entitled people who 'expect' that MY private time and attention and great advice should be given to them for FREE.  It does not work that way.  Free private time and focus from me and my expert legal associates is NOT an extension of my volunteer philanthropic work to give such to the general public on open message boards.  The person complaining here is simply someone  entitling themselves to private services from me which I don't render or imply to render.  Fact of the matter is that I clearly state on my 'signature' on each public post I make on MMH is this" :  NO PRIVATE MAIL PLEASE.  Private time and attention based on your specific problem is NOT an extension of my public participation on the boards.
 
That said, for those reading this complaint and my response to it, I do NOT provide valuable private time and attention on a 'gratis' basis.  The person who lodged this complaint is  simply someone feeling he 'should' be 'entitled' to my
expert on target advice for 'free'.  He does not 'deserve' that. Nor do I deserve this type of BOGUS complaint from someone who got MAD because I would not render services for free.
 
In short the person is 'complaining' about private services he NEVER even paid for.  He is complaining because I refused to let HIM rip ME off for valuable private time and focus.  He is also being VINDICTIVE because, being the
HONEST person that I am, I informed the MMH boards that he was ABUSING their TOS by taking out MULTIPLE screen names.
 
As is said; "The reward for VIRTRUE is virtue itself" or "All good deeds go punished". Hence he is punishing me for GOOD DEEDS and honesty when this particular anon entity is being DISHONEST.
 
Again, this person was NOT  a private client of mine but rather someone who I did not allow to rip ME off of VALUABE private time and focus.  People who DO hire me for private time and focus don't make the WRONG PS choices as this one
did.
 
By the way, this person did NOT participate on my private board BECAUSE I PROTECT my readers from board abuse of multiple ID sign ups such as this one.
 
Maybe Rip Off Reports should consider using the same policy. Maybe do a check on how many complaints  you have about PSs from MALTA.  It's all coming from same anon loser.

Let me make clear that I don't offer or imply to offer private PS consulting services in any extension of my rather generous contributions on public message boards with regard to my highly specialized knowledge of who's who and who does what the best in plastic surgery.  So although this complainer is attempting to ruin my "business", let me just say, I don't have a profit
based 'business' aimed at private PS advice.  That is to say that my private time and attention and advice COULD save your a** from making very expensive mistakes in PS selection BUT if it's something one does not want to compensate me financially for it, it's not my 'task' to 'save' one from making costly mistakes.  Don't get me wrong, it's something I CAN do and have done for MANY who have compensated me for it BUT it's NOT my 'obligation' to do just because I'm in the capacity to save one from costly mistakes they can make on their own.
 
Hence, people wanting to draw from my extensive knowledge base and in PRIVATE (off the boards) can start thinking in terms of making me a financial offer to help them privately and I shall entertain that. I will tell you, that people who have, have not made the same mistakes the person complaining about me has made who is just disgruntled that ON HIS OWN, he:
 
a: chose the wrong PS for himself
b: chose to not compensate for legal help that he needed to deal with the
Medical Justice type contract he signed.
 
So now he's just FRUSTRATED that his OWN stupid (and illegal actions) got him in trouble.  Makes no difference to me that he is lodging a complaint--against WHAT???--a valuable private info service that he did not want to pay for which could have saved his a** in the first place.  What did that get him:  A screwed up nose from his own selection of PS and BANNING from multiple PS boards for using multiple ids to complain.
 
Fact of the matter is this:  People who don't want to compensate for my private advice which can save them from making a mistake, need to take RESPONSIBILITY for their own stupidity and STOP blaming ME for not saving them from THEMSELVES just  because they want 'free' private advice from me.  Let's face it, it's not my task to save people from themselves and their own mistakes just BECAUSE they are not up to compensating me for private advise that can save them from problems.
 
So, this guy did not see it was 'worth it' to compensate me for my private help and now, he's in a s**t load of trouble due to his own 'intelligence'.  Hence he is lashing out and complaining about ME because I request compensation for my private help????
 
Let it be said that this guy NEVER compensated me for private help and he has the GAUL to complain about me.  So, what's he complaining about???  He's complaining about private services that were actually NEVER rendered to him by
me because he ultimately wanted them for FREE.
 
So, here you have some dim wit complaining on "rip off" report.  Let me ask rip off report HOW someone can possibility complain about a service that was NEVER rendered to them in the first place because they wanted a service for
FREE???
 
Fact of the matter is this jerk is complaining about a service NEVER rendered to him BECAUSE the service was NOT rendered to him for FREE.

Hello. This is Miss J.  I am responding to the BOGUS complaint made about me and will explain the circumstances of this particular complaint.
 
First and foremost,  the complaint here is not actually from someone who has paid me for private PS consulting services.  Ironically, it is a complaint from a person trying to rip ME off of private consulting services.  Yes, that is correct.  The person lodging this complaint is from MALTA and had attempted to rip ME off of private consulting services; as to have private consulting services from me at no charge. 
 
Here are the facts and circumstances:  This is a patient from MALTA who, with absolutely NO private help from me,
elected to choose a PS, on his own, based solely on the marketing of the plastic surgeon, (Paul Nassif).  Let me just say, that patients who do elect to compensate me for private time and attention as to choosing an 'on target' doctor don't have the type of problems this patient has had.  So, the patient, who is NOT and was NOT a private client of mine at all, used his own 'intelligence' to choose a PS for him self.  To make a long story short, the patient was not happy with his selection of PS.
 
Patient later got in touch with me for LEGAL advice as to how to go about dealing with this PS. I told the person (from MALTA), that although I am NOT a lawyer, I would be happy to get in touch with a legal expert I know who could
help him with intellectual property law and contract law and this would be the best approach for his legal issues with the PS of his selection for whom he was not happy with.  I made it quite clear to the patient that EXPERT legal advice
(and from my own lawyer mind you who is expert in these matters) is NOT 'free' and NOT an extension of the very generous free advice I often give on public message boards.
 
In my opinion, it is perfectly appropriate for me to tell a person getting in touch with me privately and especially about LEGAL issues, that my capacity to HELP them is limited to getting a GOOD legal expert and also telling them
there would be a charge (lawyers don't work for free) for any advice from my legal expert.  Hence, I told this person that if he wanted expert legal advice, I could get that FOR him but said legal advice would be at a fee which would go
to the lawyer. It's rather simple:  Lawyers are NOT 'free' and that includes the very good lawyers I could get him in touch with for his problem.  I simply told him that.
 
Fact of the matter was this particular person, was angry that he was unable to RIP ME OFF for legal advice.
Fact of the matter is that I, myself, am NOT going to PAY out of my own pocket for a lawyer to help him.  Most reasonable people would 'understand' that although, I, "Miss J" have extensive knowledge in PS aesthetic issues and also can hook one up with the right legal expert, this is NOT a service I offer or imply to offer for 'free'.  This particular patient from MALTA 'entitled' himself to legal services from lawyers I have to PAY MYSELF for the type of advice he needed and was angry with me that such services were not provided to him FROM ME when he wrote to me seeking 'help'.
 
Later, this particular patient from MALTA went on to complain about his PS on several PS message boards and used SEVERAL MULTIPLE IDENTITIES to do so.  Because I am a TRUSTED participant on the MMH boards and also because it is
their policy for ONE SCREEN NAME PER USER, I told the administration that this particular patient from MALTA was using SEVERAL different screen names on their board to complain about Dr. Nassif.  As a trusted provider of information on the
MMH boards, it's not a thing I can 'turn my head the other way' when I see board abuse as I witnessed from this particular patient.  Although I have no particular sympathies or affiliations with his particular PS (with whom he was
unhappy), I feel that it is quite UNFAIR to the other readers of a message board for one person to ABUSE the board by taking out many multiple IDs to complain about the same doctor. It's ETHICALLY WRONG for OTHER patients to be subjected to one (as this particular person from MALTA lodging the complaint about ME) pretending to be many "different" patients.  So as to protect the other readers who were FOOLED into thinking that there were many complaints about one doctor from "many" patients, I told the admin at MMH to check the IP of the "many" patients complaining to cross reference that the complaint was coming from an IP in MALTA.
 
Subsequently, this particular complainer was discovered as taking out MANY screen names and has now become VINDICTIVE towards ME.  The BOGUS complaint here is an EXAMPLE of that.
 
In essence, the particular person lodging this complaint is just someone who is MAD that I did not let him rip ME off for valuable private consulting services.  That is to say, the person complaining is NOT actually a person who financially compensated for ANY private services from me or my legal associates.  Fact of the matter is that he is angry that he did not get very valuable private info services from me for FREE.
 
I will mention here that one of the problems of my giving very useful, on target advice to public message boards on a purely volunteer basis as to help the most people possible, is that I often run into very selfish, self entitled
people who 'expect' that MY private time and attention and great advice should be given to them for FREE.  It does not work that way.  Free private time and focus from me and my expert legal associates is NOT an extension of my volunteer
philanthropic work to give such to the general public on open message boards.  The person complaining here is simply someone  entitling themselves to private services from me which I don't render or imply to render.  Fact of the matter is
that I clearly state on my 'signature' on each public post I make on MMH is this" :  NO PRIVATE MAIL PLEASE.  Private time and attention based on your specific problem is NOT an extension of my public participation on the boards.
 
That said, for those reading this complaint and my response to it, I do NOT provide valuable private time and attention on a 'gratis' basis.  The person who lodged this complaint is  simply someone feeling he 'should' be 'entitled' to my
expert on target advice for 'free'.  He does not 'deserve' that. Nor do I deserve this type of BOGUS complaint from someone who got MAD because I would not render services for free.
 
In short the person is 'complaining' about private services he NEVER even paid for.  He is complaining because I refused to let HIM rip ME off for valuable private time and focus.  He is also being VINDICTIVE because, being the HONEST person that I am, I informed the MMH boards that he was ABUSING their TOS by taking out MULTIPLE screen names.
 
As is said; "The reward for VIRTRUE is virtue itself" or "All good deeds go punished". Hence he is punishing me for GOOD DEEDS and honesty when this particular anon entity is being DISHONEST.
 
Again, this person was NOT  a private client of mine but rather someone who I did not allow to rip ME off of VALUABE private time and focus.  People who DO hire me for private time and focus don't make the WRONG PS choices as this one
did. By the way, this person did NOT participate on my private board BECAUSE I PROTECT my readers from board abuse of multiple ID sign ups such as this one.
 
Maybe Rip Off Reports should consider using the same policy. Maybe do a check on how many complaints  you have about PSs from MALTA.  It's all coming from same anon loser.

This complaint really does not stack up at all.  It does not tally with my experience or my knowledge of the woman.  It seems to me to be quite malicious. There is no charge for joining her forum.  I have never been asked for money.

It made me a little sad to see how easy it is to malign someone's reputation online.  Maybe others will chime in.

PN