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More Downline Members David Gervell Vanilla Reload, Reloadit, scams Unsure Unsure
The website is very poorly made for the amount of money charged for their services. Below is what was send to me in an email on how to pay and receive my services. You can only order services by emailing them with the pin number from a Vanilla card or Reloadit card.
First email is their FAQ's:
"I will copy and paste from our website our FaQ's which anwsers all of your questions.
What if you can't find anyone to jon my program?
We never fail to get people to join a program as logically they are already 1000's of people in your program so if they joined we can find others who will join. Even though this will never happen if we do fail to find the specific amount of people you ordered we will continue to work until we do find these people. If a full or partial refund is necessary we will do this also.
How long will it take to get me all the people for my order?
It will take up to 17 days or sooner to fill your entire order. You will see signups start to come in around day 2 or 3.
How long have we been doing this? For 5 months now.
THIS IS FROM AN EMAIL RESPONSE ON PAYMENT TO THEIR COMPANY:
"Our next topic to cover are our payment options. Unfortunately we don't accept credit cards or paypal and the reason why is below.
Credit card processing comes at some risk for the merchant and the customer. We would like for people to be able to pay for their orders with us
withough having to give us their sensitive personal information such as credit card number, cvc, number and expiration date. Also if we offered credit cards as a way to pay you would need to put in your full address. Thats a lot of personal information and we would rather not have access to this type of personal information. Just recently in the national news the company Target had thousands of customers had their credit card info stolen by a hacker who got into the Target data base and stole all these people's credit card and personal info and used it to make tons of purchases. Target was held liable and some customers were not happy as you can imagine. So this type of incident is exactly why we are not accepting credit cards as a form of payment. If we don't have your credit card info. there can be nothing we can be held liable for and this allows you to keep your information safe and with you.
Next we also do not accept Paypal payments. The reasons why are for one, on Paypal websites it clearly states you are NOT allowed to use Paypal's services for mlm, network marketing, and anything that supports pyramnid structured programs etc. You can go to the Paypal website to see this for yourself in writing. Paypal has a bad habit of freezing people's accounts for these type matters and it would ruin us if we conducted transactions through Paypal and one day they decided to freeze our account. I copy and pasted this from the Paypal website
relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs,
The payment we do accept is very accessible and safe. Its a prepaid method either Reload-it or Vanilla Reload. In your area they have reload it at the following stores. All you do is go there and pick up the card which is GREY in color and take it to the cashier and have them load $175,$270,$395 or whatever the amount you want on to the card and then turn the card over and scratch off the scratch off on the back and email us the 10 digit number on the back underneath the scratch-offf. This card looks Nothing like a credit or debit card. It does NOT have a 16 digit number on the front nor does it have a cvc code or expiration date. If you pick up a card that looks similiar to a credit or debit card ITS THE WRONG CARD! They are easy to find at the locations below near you. All orders must be paid in full before we will start working on them. Please email us back or call if you have questions. Below is where you can find the Reload-it Card."
THEY DO NOT HAVE A SECURE PAYMENT OPTION.
When I asked why and that I was just doing my home work, David got defensive and this was the email I received afterwards.......
"You are suppose to be getting the Reload-it Card in your area and we even gave you the address to places in your area that sell this. We have a new client from WakeUpNow and we got him a signup on his first day with us. Look we don't have time to play the "convincing game". If you think this is a scam simply don't use us. Good luck in your business."
I never did order their service. They had a couple people contact me as a testimonial but they really had the same info sent to me by the owner of the site and lived in Seattle, which is the same city of the websites phone number.
The number comes up as a cell in Seattle. It is all to amateur and cheap. There is nothing secure about the site.
The site has 3 simple sections and not really anything to show it is legitimate.
I would love to know if anyone has had any experience with him to prove me wrong.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 03/15/2014 06:14 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/more-downline-members/select-stateprovince/more-downline-members-david-gervell-vanilla-reload-reloadit-scams-unsure-unsure-1130829. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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