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Complaint Review: NADN Oryan Corp - Las Vegas Nevada

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I responded to NADN radio commercial offering Tax Savings book and program.

Derek
Hartland, Wisconsin
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/05/2004 07:48 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/nadn-oryan-corp/las-vegas-nevada-89103/nadn-oryan-ripoff-nadn-oryan-corp-sold-worthless-internet-shopping-site-mislead-about-tax-90366. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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Dept of Justice Asks for Additional Info

AUTHOR: Derek - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 05, 2004

Email from: Evan.J.Davis@USDOJ.gov

(For those who have already received a similar message, this message differs slightly--we have added a few more names to the list of entities in which we are interest, plus we have asked a few more questions. If you have already responded, please respond again only if you have additional information in response to these additional questions and lines of inquiry).

It has come to our attention that you have submitted a complaint to ripoffreport.com or badbusinessbureau.com about the National Audit Defense Network (NADN), Oryan Management, or TaxReady. We are working on a civil injunction action, brought by the U.S. Department of Justice against a number of defendants including NADN and Oryan.

Information about our lawsuit can be found at these links:

http://www.usdoj.gov/tax/04_tax_233.htm
http://www.usdoj.gov/tax/04_tax_309.htm

As part of this lawsuit, we are seeking information from customers of NADN, Success Matrix Group, CPR Business Solutions, Oryan Management & Financial Services, and Keyword Gold. We are collecting e-mail information about these entities (some of which are not currently defendants in the injunction lawsuit but may have some connection to the suit) so we can use customers as witnesses in our case. Please note that we cannot assist you in obtaining a refund of funds paid to NADN or to figure out any personal tax issues. You may want to contact the Federal Trade Commission, Nevada Attorney General's Office, and the US Bankruptcy Court for refund issues and either a tax professional or the IRS with your tax questions.

If you are willing to share your experiences with us, please e-mail back to us your name, address, and telephone number, along with any details about your involvement with NADN, Oryan, Success Matrix, CPR Business Solutions, and/or Keyword Gold that you think we should know about. To give you guidance about the type of information that would be most helpful to us, we have listed some questions below. Please answer as many questions as you can in a reply e-mail. We are also interested in receiving from you copies of any documents that you have relating to NADN or Oryan. Please contact us by e-mail, although we have provided our telephone numbers in case any difficulties arise.

Address/info:

Evan J. Davis & Phyllis Jo Gervasio
U.S. Department of Justice
Evan.J.Davis@USDOJ.gov
Phyllis.Jo.Gervasio@USDOJ.gov
Tel: (202) 514-0079
Tel: (202) 514-6539

Our mailing address is:

U.S. Department of Justice, Tax Division
P.O. Box 7238
Washington, D.C. 20044

Questions:

How did you hear about NADN, Oryan Management, Success Matrix Group, Keyword Gold, and/or CPR Business Solutions?

If you were referred to any of these entities by someone else, please state that person's name, address, and phone number, and explain how you know that person.

How and when were you contacted by (or did you contact) any of these entities?

What specifically were you told about the products and services offered by these entities, including about the tax benefits of purchasing the products? Please be as detailed as possible with the specific statements, promises, etc. that were made. Please also include any questions that you asked and the answers given, to the extent you remember.

Which products or services did you purchase, when did you purchase them, and how much did you pay for each?

If you paid in part with a promissory note, please state what you were told regarding how the promissory note would or could be paid off.

Can you recall the names of any of the individuals you spoke with about the products and services of these entities?

Have you been contacted recently or are you still being contacted by any of these entities? If so, please describe the contact(s), providing names of sales persons and dates and subjects discussed.


Has a representative from any of these entities told you anything about the Justice Department lawsuit? If so, please describe.

If you have purchased a MallforAll or Shopn2000 website product, has any representative of any gentility tried to sell you any product or service related to the website? This could include search-engine optimization and/or a "hit generator."

In particular, what if anything did the representative say about these website-related products? Did they make any claims about the IRS or taxes? Did they make any claims about whether the products would make your website more profitable?

If you bought a hit generator or search-engine optimizer, please provide all information about any results seen, including any reports showing increased "hits" received and commissions earned.

We look forward to hearing from you. Please distribute this list of questions to whoever else may be interested.

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filed a 2nd appeal with Bank of America to have the $2495 reversed

AUTHOR: Judith - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 10, 2004

Derek,
You say NADN refunded your $2495 when you contacted Discover Card. What exactly did you say to your credit card company? I have filed a 2nd appeal with Bank of America to have the $2495 reversed, due to fraud on the part of NADN, but it's still under appeal. The credit card company says they have strick guidelines they must follow, but my question is this, how much does a company have to think about refunding money sent to NADN. Every agency I know of is investigating them for fraud, illegal operations, tax evasion, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. jlredwine at juno. I'm very glad you were able to get your money back. I did not sign the contract either and of course when I told Oryan that I would not sign they did the ping pong thing back to NADN. Both of these companies are like grease (everything slides off them). I am currently contacting a lawyer to investigate the possibility of filing a class action lawsuit. I've seen numerous other posts that discuss a lawsuit, but I have yet to hear that one has been started.

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Promisory Note Registered with State of California

AUTHOR: Derek - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 05, 2004

I was lured into reviewing the MallforAll business package June 2002.

After receiving information in the mail, I looked at the MallforAll website and recognized that the website was weak at best. I never signed or returned the contract to Oryan.

I contacted Oryan and told them I wasn't interested in their program. They told me it was too late, the time period to cancel had expired. Buried in the fine print of the contract was a 72 hour cancellation clause. So despite never having sign and returned their contract, they were not going to refund the $2495.00 that had been charged to my credit card.

So I went directly to Discover Card and complained. Eventually NADN refunded my $2495.00.

That was great! I thought my relationship with NADN and Oryan was over with. I took their contract and shredded it, hoping to never have to deal with these snakes again. That was Jan 2003.

It wasn't too long after that I began receiving phone calls from NADN again. I told them that I wanted to be put on their "DO NOT CALL LIST".

Even after I told them to stop calling, I continued to receive calls from the Las Vegas (702) area code. I recogized them on my caller ID and simply stopped picking them up. I figured they were going to try and convince me to take a look at another money making scheme they had.

Things remained quiet for the next year because I didn't take any calls from the (702) area code.

But then this past Monday, May 3, 2004 I received a phone call from the Las Vegas area, and I decided to answer it and remind them that I was on the "DO NOT CALL LIST"

Instead of it being someone from NADN, it was someone from a different company called CPR Business Solutions, Las Vegas, NV. ph 866-586-7451

He told me that he was calling to help me establish a business plan that would direct internet traffic to my MallForAll website and help pay off my $8000 promisory note to Oryan Corp.
CPR Business Solutions, wanted me to sign a contract promising 150,000 visitors to my website for $3500.00.

I was flabergasted! I told him that I did not own a MallForAll website. He informed me of the staus of the Dept. of Justice lawsuit against NADN, and that Oryan Corp. had registered a $8000 promisory note with my name on it with the State of California.

He encouraged me to act fast; that time was running out. I told him that if I've learned anything while working with NADN it's that I wasn't going to rush into anything. I've declined to work with CPR Business Solutions. I'm not pouring any more money down this rat hole! I'll take my chances.

I have never taken any of the business deductions related to the MallForAll on my income taxes, because until I received this phone call this past Monday, I thought I had severed my relationship with NADN. Unfortunately, since I have shredded all the documents related to this business transaction I am flying somewhat blind on what Oryan believes I've agreed to.

Based on the lawsuit filed by the DOJ in Washington, DC (April 2004)it appears to me that NADN is in deep trouble and may not survive. What I am concerned about is whether Oryan's registration of a $8000 promisory note with the State of California has any legal merit.

I don't think I owe the $8000 and perhaps a class action lawsuit is needed to put a stop this this situation, for all of us!

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