Complaint Review: Natalie Anne Dowing - Tulsa Oklahoma, Internet
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- Natalie Anne Dowing 2382 Tulsa Tulsa, Oklahoma, Internet U.S.A.
- Phone: 428-981-6281
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Natalie Anne Dowing Ripoff scamming Tulsa Oklahoma
*Author of original report: Proof natalie and tatjana murdered Robert Stickel
*Author of original report: Natalie Anne Downing
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Natalie Anne Downing
*Author of original report: Natalie Anne Downing
*Author of original report: Natalie Anne Downing
*Author of original report: Natalie Anne Downing
*Author of original report: Natalie Anne Downing
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Natalie Dowing(tison, Chambers is a hooker murder lier and all around scumbag,)
She had done credit card fraud ripped off people and lied to get money she has done child molesters and befriended Tatjan Guenther a sweethart scammer.
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
Lynn Stickel, as personal representative
for the estate of Robert Stickel,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Johnny L. Chambers; Natalie A.
Chambers; Tatjana Guenther,
Defendant.
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No. CV 99-2189-PHX-MHM
ORDER
Presently pending before the Court are two letters from Defendant Tatjana Guenther.
The first letter the Court has construed as a Motion to Vacate the Judgment (Doc. 40). The second letter the Court has construed as a Motion to Remove the Case (Doc. 42), however this letter looks like a continuation of Defendant's request to vacate the judgment. Plaintiff has filed a Response. The Court considers the papers submitted and issues the following Order.
BACKGROUND
This lawsuit was filed on December 14, 1999. Defendant Tatjana Guenther was personally served with a summons and complaint on May 14, 2001. Judgment was entered against all Defendants, including Ms. Guenther on April 5, 2002.
Defendant Guenther's now requests to vacate the judgment based on the following:
(1) it is unfair that she has been subject to post-judgment collection efforts in Oklahoma, and
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(2) Jeff and Sandy Chrisman, who are not parties to this action, are persons whose character Ms. Guenther questions.
LEGAL STANDARD
Rule 60(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides as follows:
On motion and upon such terms as are just, the court may relieve a party or a party's legal representative from a final judgment, order, or proceeding for the following reasons:
(1) mistake, inadvertence, surprise, or excusable neglect;
(2) newly discovered evidence which by due diligence could not have been discovered in time to move for a new trial under Rule 59(b); (
3) fraud (whether heretofore denominated intrinsic or extrinsic), misrepresentation, or other misconduct of an adverse party; (
4) the judgment is void;
(5) the judgment has been satisfied, released, or discharged, or a prior judgment upon which it is based has been reversed or otherwise vacated, or it is no longer equitable that the judgment should have prospective application; or (6) any other reason justifying relief from the operation of the judgment. The motion shall be made within a reasonable time, and for reasons (1), (2), and (3) not more than one year after the judgment, order, or proceeding was entered or taken.
DISCUSSION
Initially, the Court notes that Defendant Guenther did not serve the instant Motions on the Plaintiff. This is in direct violation of Rule 5 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Defendant is directed to serve on the Plaintiff any further documents that she files in this case. Defendant also is warned that failure to serve documents on the Plaintiff will not be looked upon kindly by this Court.
Over five years have passed since entry of judgment in this case. Therefore, pursuant to Rule 60(b), any request to vacate the judgment for reasons (1), (2) or (3) of Rule 60(b) is untimely. Ms. Guenther has not suggested a basis under reason (5) that the judgment has been satisfied, released, or discharged. Thus, Defendant's Motion must be considered under reason (4) that the judgment is void or under reason (6) that other reasons justify relief from the operation of the judgment.
A judgment is void only if the court that rendered the judgment lacked jurisdiction over either the subject matter or the parties, or acted in a manner inconsistent with due
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process of law. In re Center Wholesale, Inc., 759 F.2d 1440, 1448 (9th Cir. 1985). Ms.Guenther has made no showing of any facts to suggest that the judgment here is void.
To obtain relief under Rule 60(b)(6), a party must demonstrate extraordinary circumstances which prevent or render him unable to prosecute [the case]. Martella v. Marine Cooks & Stewards Union, 448 F.2d 729, 730 (9th Cir. 1971). The party must demonstrate both injury and circumstances beyond her control that prevented her from proceeding with the defense of the action in a proper fashion. United States v. Alpine Land & Reservoir Co., 984 F.2d 1047, 1049 (9th Cir. 1993). Ms. Guenther's primary issue with the judgment seems to be that the judgment from this Court was registered with the United States District Court in Oklahoma pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1963. Ms. Guenther also takes issue with the alleged post judgment conduct by persons who are not parties to this lawsuit.
Ms. Guenther states that the reason she did not file any sort of responsive pleading in this case was because she had just moved out of Tulsa, Oklahoma and was going on a missionary trip out of the country and firmly believe that [she] was innocent. . .Def.'s March 26, 2007 Letter to the Court. These assertions are not grounds for vacating the Court's judgment under Rule 60(b)(6). Defendant has not demonstrated injury and circumstances beyond her control that prevented her from proceeding with the defense of this action. Accordingly, Defendant's Motion to Vacate the Judgment is denied.
CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, IT IS ORDERED that Defendant's letter construed as a Motion to Vacate the Judgment (Doc. 40) is denied.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Defendant's letter construed as a Motion to Remove the Case (Doc. 42) is denied.
DATED this 10th day of July, 2007.
Case 2:99-cv-02189-MHM Document 44 Filed 07/11/2007 '
Jack
denver, Colorado
U.S.A.
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#7 Author of original report
Proof natalie and tatjana murdered Robert Stickel
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 20, 2008
Natalie Chambers would announce periodically that Robert and Richard were elders and partners in the Chambers securing a church in Phoenix. When they did get the church at 1501 W. Peoria Ave., Natalie said that there would be about 5 or 6 partners. We never did notice or it was announced that there were more than Robert and Richard.
Natalie called us on Sunday morning, probably the day it was discovered that Robert died. Catherine answered the phone at the time and Natalie asked us to help out at the church that morning. I told her that we would be unable to do so, because it was too short of a notice to make it on time, plus we could not leave my mother alone. I asked her why and she said that Robert died and that Tatiana called and told her that they found his body that morning. I asked her what happened and if he had a heart attack; she said she didn't know what happened. She said that they were going to investigate her, because she was the last one to see him alive that previous night and he was found face down in bed. She said she saw him around 10:00p.m. that previous night. That evening service we asked Natalie what was going on and she stated again that she was going to be investigated regarding Robert's death. Natalie also stated to others in the church that night that she was going to be investigated. She was quite upset about being questioned.
About a week later, Natalie mentioned to us and others that no one from the church was allowed to attend Roberts funeral, because the family didn't want anyone from there.
Catherine and Christine noticed that on numerous occasions Robert would write out checks in large amounts of money to Natalie and Johnny to pay his tithes to the church. We overheard Natalie on various occasions prodding Robert to give her more money. Other church members knew of this too.
#6 Author of original report
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Natalie, No matter who you pay or how much. we will be coming for you to collect just pay it and we will stop if not you will be hiding the rest of your life. We now know all about you and your family all your lies are coming to a end are you still hiding from your ex-husband you drama queen we will catch you later oh and by the way we have taught our childeren well or did you not follow up on that... the joke is on you for thinking we would not put that together and take care of your little game keep it up and one day the shoe will be on the other foot. We also know about your little movies that you and johnny are in.sicko.
#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Natalie,
We have all the info on you and will be coming to collect better keep running. Here it is you scammer.
Margaret Tison
TISON, MARGARET ELIZABETH
Margaret Elizabeth Lefevers Tison, 77 passed away Friday night, March 14, 2008 in Gainesville, Florida. She was a resident of Hawthorne, Florida. She moved to Florida from Indiana 53 years ago. She retired from Sunland Training Center after 28 years as a Cottage Supervisor. She was a member of Smyrna Assembly of God in Smyrna, Georgia.
She is survived by 2 sons, Larry R. Tison, Waterbury, Connecticut and Don B. Tison, Alpharetta, Georgia; 3 daughters, Becky Uzowihe of Marietta, Georgia, JoAnne Arenz of Hawthorne, Florida and Natalie Anne Downing of Tulsa, Oklahoma; 3 brothers, Thomas H. Lefevers of Graham, Florida, John R. Lefevers of Gibsonton, Florida and Jack D. Lefevers of Indianapolis, Indiana; 1 sister, Hazel M. Laney of Gibsonton, Florida; 16 grandchildren; 8 great grandchildren and her ex-husband, George E. Tison of Hawthorne, Florida.
She was preceded in death by her parents, Isaac Lefevers and Hattie Huff Lefevers. She leaves behind a host of loved ones and friends.
Graveside Services will be held Wednesday, March 19, 2007, 11:00 a.m. at Fairbanks Cemetery in Fairbanks, Florida with Pastor Shell Osbon officiating.
Arrangements are under the care WILLIAMS-THOMAS HAWTHORNE FUNERAL HOME, US 301 South at Lake Avenue.
#4 Author of original report
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 21, 2008
Natalie Anne Downing is her name now she is using other names Like Mari Anne Tison, Mari Anne Downin, Marie Anne Chambers, Anne Mari Tison ect she will do anything for money like use her to ADULT childern for car accidents, She like to harrass on the internet by posting false statments she has tried to get off a federal judgement along with Tatjana Guenther and her ex husband Johnny Chambers. Guess what it wont and didnt work why dont you quit while you are behind. We now know all the information we need to start coming after you for collections and the Budas cant help you nor can tatjana guenther. Why dont you just pay it. We will stop after you pay it. Shame on you for ripping off a old man this is elder abuse! And by the way We still have the website and your nasty pictures on it why dont you sue us chicken!
#3 Author of original report
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 21, 2008
Natalie Anne Downing is her name now she is using other names Like Mari Anne Tison, Mari Anne Downin, Marie Anne Chambers, Anne Mari Tison ect she will do anything for money like use her to ADULT childern for car accidents, She like to harrass on the internet by posting false statments she has tried to get off a federal judgement along with Tatjana Guenther and her ex husband Johnny Chambers. Guess what it wont and didnt work why dont you quit while you are behind. We now know all the information we need to start coming after you for collections and the Budas cant help you nor can tatjana guenther. Why dont you just pay it. We will stop after you pay it. Shame on you for ripping off a old man this is elder abuse! And by the way We still have the website and your nasty pictures on it why dont you sue us chicken!
#2 Author of original report
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 21, 2008
Natalie Anne Downing is her name now she is using other names Like Mari Anne Tison, Mari Anne Downin, Marie Anne Chambers, Anne Mari Tison ect she will do anything for money like use her to ADULT childern for car accidents, She like to harrass on the internet by posting false statments she has tried to get off a federal judgement along with Tatjana Guenther and her ex husband Johnny Chambers. Guess what it wont and didnt work why dont you quit while you are behind. We now know all the information we need to start coming after you for collections and the Budas cant help you nor can tatjana guenther. Why dont you just pay it. We will stop after you pay it. Shame on you for ripping off a old man this is elder abuse! And by the way We still have the website and your nasty pictures on it why dont you sue us chicken!
#1 Author of original report
Natalie Anne Downing
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 21, 2008
Natalie Anne Downing is her name now she is using other names Like Mari Anne Tison, Mari Anne Downin, Marie Anne Chambers, Anne Mari Tison ect she will do anything for money like use her to ADULT childern for car accidents, She like to harrass on the internet by posting false statments she has tried to get off a federal judgement along with Tatjana Guenther and her ex husband Johnny Chambers. Guess what it wont and didnt work why dont you quit while you are behind. We now know all the information we need to start coming after you for collections and the Budas cant help you nor can tatjana guenther. Why dont you just pay it. We will stop after you pay it. Shame on you for ripping off a old man this is elder abuse! And by the way We still have the website and your nasty pictures on it why dont you sue us chicken!
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