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Report: #156942

Complaint Review: National Small Business Alliance - Palm Springs California

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  • Reported By: Dunedin Florida
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  • National Small Business Alliance 180 Luring Drive Suite 300 Palm Springs, California U.S.A.

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I received a packet in the mail from the NSBA and did not reply to any of their offers. I received a charge of $149 on my debit card and another charge of $239 neither of which had been authorized!

How they obtained this information I have no clue but it evidently was not legal!

I give them a flat out F-! They are not a helper of others. They re THIEVES! I KNOW! They stole from me!

Richard
Dunedin, Florida
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

WE DON'T BUY THAT INFORMATION

AUTHOR: Dennis - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, September 23, 2005

Richard,

As I stated before, we have no way of obtaining your account information without it being provided by you or someone who had access to your information

In the few cases where the person swears they didn't sign up, upon further investigation on it is uncover that a spouse, friend, partner or one of their children actually signed on their behalf and then was too afraid or embarrassed to admit it. In other cases, the person did sign up then was afraid to admit it to their spouse and made us the fall guy.

I feel that one of the scenarios above is probably the case. Please check with your family members and friends.

Dennis Mario
NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC.
760-322-5572 Main
760-902-8415 Cell
760-406-6035 eFax
dmario@natlsba.com

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

WE DON'T BUY THAT INFORMATION

AUTHOR: Dennis - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, September 23, 2005

Richard,

As I stated before, we have no way of obtaining your account information without it being provided by you or someone who had access to your information

In the few cases where the person swears they didn't sign up, upon further investigation on it is uncover that a spouse, friend, partner or one of their children actually signed on their behalf and then was too afraid or embarrassed to admit it. In other cases, the person did sign up then was afraid to admit it to their spouse and made us the fall guy.

I feel that one of the scenarios above is probably the case. Please check with your family members and friends.

Dennis Mario
NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC.
760-322-5572 Main
760-902-8415 Cell
760-406-6035 eFax
dmario@natlsba.com

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#3 Author of original report

SIGNED UP ON THE INTERNET?

AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005

Dennis

I was not ON the Internet and did NOT sign up at your site! As I said, you procured the information you have from some company out there selling it.

I repeat: I did NOT register anything ONLINE! Tell me again just how you procured my personal information!

You said:"You or someone who had access to your checking account and personal information such as Social Security Number HAD to sign up over the Internet."

AGAIN I REPEAT I WAS NOT AT YOUR WEBSITE! HOW COULD I HAVE GIVEN YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THIS INFORMATION?

Oh? Who then was it that signed me up over the Internet? When was this done and how was it done? I need to know all the details of the so called 'transaction' (Date and time of transaction please)

If you have the last 4 digits of my SSN you stole that information!

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

YOU SIGNED UP OVER THE INTERNET

AUTHOR: Dennis - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2005

Richard,

You or someone who had access to your checking account and personal information such as Social Security Number HAD to sign up over the Internet.

There is no way we can obtain your information without it being submitted to us.

All charges are clearly stated in the disclaimer prior to hitting the submit button.

Please Call me directly to discuss.

Dennis Mario
NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC.
760-322-5572 Main
760-902-8415 Cell
760-406-6035 eFax
dmario@natlsba.com

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#1 Author of original report

Update NSBA

AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 13, 2005

To add damage to what has already been done, my bank is now charging ME over $200 dollars in fees for being overdrawn, which I would NOT have been if the NSBA had left my account alone! A swift refund would be appropriate since the taking from my acount was not! Illegal activity has caused my bank to foreclose on my account. Thanks NOT Dennis!
I also discovered that they are in cahoots with First National Credit Card of LV, NV.

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