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Neo-Tech Society Nova Tek Society Nouveau Tech Secret Socity

  • Submitted: Wed, January 23, 2008
  • Updated: Tue, November 17, 2009

  • Reported By:montgomery Alabama
Neo-Tech Society Nova Tek Society Nouveau Tech Secret Socity
850 South Boulder HWY, Henderson, Nevada 2435 W. Horizon Ridge PKWY, Nevada U.S.A.

Neo-Tech Society Nova Tek Society Nouveau Tech Secret Socity Crazy Secret Society Scam 24352435 W. Horizon Ridge PKWY Nevada

*Consumer Comment: True Facts Taken Out of Context

*Consumer Comment: Nouveau-tech is OLD-OUT-DATED name from a while ago

*Consumer Comment: Neo-Tech Society Nova Tek Society Nouveau Tech Secret Socity Crazy Secret Society Scam 24352435 W. Horizon Ridge PKWY Nevada

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This company goes by several different names including:
Nova Tek Society
Novus Tech
Nouveau Tech
Neo Tech
....just to name a few. I was suckered into ordering this stupid manual for $199 and when I wanted to return the stupid thing, all I was able to reach is an answering service who promised they fax or email the society. I kept calling because I never heard anything back and I demanded to speak to a manager to get this resolved. It was always the same thing. They were just the answering service and couldn't do anything but fax or email. I wasn't settleing for that.

So I dug up all kinds of different adresses for this scam company incluing Ohio, Nevada, Delaware, I accumulated all kinds of phone numbers and it was always the same crap.

So I turned up the steam a few notches and decided to play hard ball with these idiots. I kept calling the answering service 78 times in a row telling them I wanted my refund now. I didn't care what they said, I wanted my refund NOW.

Next, I faxed my contact info with the following message:

"WARNING: This fax is being documented and recorded for further Federal Investigative purposes.

AttN: Customer Refund Dept.
2435 W. Horizon Ridge PKY
Henderson, NV 89652-5786

I have been trying to get my refund for the Neo Tech Secret Society Manual since November 2007. I have sent the book back to you and it is now going on February 2008. I demand a FULL refund for $199 right now. If I do not receive my full refund by January 23. 2008, I shall involve any and all Federal and United States organizations, agencies, and legal counsel interested in this matter, including the Federal Trade Commission.

I really think this matter can be handled quickly and easily with a simple fedexed check. Send me my full refund now. You can call me directly at xxx-xxx-xxxx

Thank you,

PLEASE NOTE: The Federal Trade Commission considers fraudulent advertising of a money back guarantee a FEDERAL Crime punishable up to 20 years in prison and/or a six figure fine. I will stop at nothing to involve all persons, individuals, companies and entities concerned in this whirlwind. Let's get this resolved before this possibly escalates into something unpleasant. "

I then faxed every fax number I had 55 times. ( I have a virtual fax at rapidfax.com so It's just a matter of hitting the back button and clicking send over and over)

Within 45 minutes I had a man by the name of "Drew Ellis" tell me that he has a copy of my check in his hands and that he is fedexing it now and ask me why I was making such trouble. I told him as soon as that check is in my hands he will have me out of his hair. He told me "Well I think that would be good for both of us!!" and hung up.

These people will give your money back, if you literally DRILL them with faxes and phone calls. I literally hit redial as soon as I got off the phone and got the same 3 operators and I kept telling them "I want my refund figure out how to get to me now" click, redial and again, and again. Imagine something calling you every 4 seconds for the next 2 hours nonstop...you tend to come up with ideas rather quickly!

Here are all the numbers and addresses I've collected

Nouveau Tech Society
Ph. 716 871 2844
Fax: 716-447-7489
3357 H Southpark Place
Grove City, Ohio 43123


Neo Tech
2435 W. Horizon Ridge Pkwy
Henderson, NV 89052

Reverse DNS Look up on novustecksociety.org
reads back: John Alberts
Also I found a Frank R. Wallace and Thomas Caenen involved

And yes I called people's personal homes. These idiots can rot in hell

Bigg dogg
montgomery, Alabama

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#1 Consumer Comment

True Facts Taken Out of Context

AUTHOR: Yon - (United States of America)

When I received the Neo-Tech Information Package in the mail I was STUNNED by the incredible ideas, the incredible VALUE, that this information brought to me!  I'd like to share some of that value with you here, as it forms an appropriate response to the above report.   This is just a tiny fraction of the value available to you in the Neo-Tech Literature:

In life there are people who create or produce more than they consume or destroy - such people are Net Value Creators, and every single Net Value Creator makes the world a better place.  Every Net Value Creator EARNS his or her happiness and genuine pride.  You too can become a Net Value Creator, just start NOW to do more good than ill - tighten your discipline with your finances: cut costs, live within your means, attack your debt, increase your productivity.  If that sounds hard, the Neo-Tech Information Package has over one hundred advantages that make becoming a Net Value Creator easier and easier!  Depression and Suicidal thoughts evaporate as your honest efforts begin to make life better and better for yourself and everyone around you!  Sad and frustrated feelings are naturally replaced by feelings of excitement and joy, enthusiasm and vigor, and pride and happiness.  These good feelings open the door to romantic love.

Also in life there are people who have given up on the idea of ever earning a living through honest efforts.  Such people are sour and envious of happy innocent honest Net Value Creators.  Their self loathing, the result of their lack of discipline and irrational self indulgences - their personal treasons, is too painful for them to bear, and so they lash out and attack that which reminds them of their iniquities.  They attack honesty, beauty, discipline, and value.  They promote degradation, injustice, violence, murder, drugs, promiscuous sex, sacrifices of blood or money, theft, destruction of families, half-truths, out-right lies, and wars.  The attacks launched by Net Value Destroyers include the overt and incredibly tragic attacks on the Twin Towers on 9/11.  These same attacks on values can also come through subtle covert methods: The Foisting of False Guilt or Demands for 'self-sacrifice' to invented 'higher causes' where proceeds are funneled towards lavish self-indulgences.

Attacks on Innocent Net Value Creators also come as non-sequiturs (jumping to irrational conclusions), attacking ad hominem (attacking the person/people when an honest discussion would focus on the issue or the product or the transaction), and most destructively - using true facts out of context; after all, who can argue with true facts?  And who can argue that a fact has been omitted; it isn't there!

By learning how to recognize the sad flailings of envious losers, it becomes easy to side step them.  Ultimately pathetic value attacking losers want everyone to be as miserable as they are.  Instead, fill your own life with incredible value creation and honest efforts.  Doing so helps everyone, including those sad losers.

The Neo-Tech Information Packages can LIBERATE anyone from the destructive influences of Net Value Destroyers.  The Neo-Tech Literature can prime the rockets to launch anyone into a new world of exciting value creation!

While Bigg Dogg may have genuinely had a frustrating experience, there are a number of data that would have considerably added to his report:

When was the Neo-Tech Literature Purchased?
Did he read it?  What 'suckered' him into ordering it?
When did he send it back for a refund?
Was it within the 30-days?

These are important points that could have easily been included lending even more strength to his position, their omission leads me to believe that Bigg Dogg is attempting to paint a picture that people who return their product within the specified 30-days will be treated as he was treated.  Most likely Bigg Dogg discovered that his life-style was under-attack;  Neo-Tech points out for all to see that livelihoods gained through initiatory violence, threat of violence, and fraud are WRONG!  That's a bitter pill for someone who has found a way to obtain values from others through camouflaged laziness.

As I was reading the report, I couldn't help but notice the tone of glee and malice as Bigg Dogg described his fax attack, his phone attack, and his statement "And yes I called people's personal homes."  I'm surprised he wasn't sued for harassment.

Honest Businesses uphold their promises, like a 30-day satisfaction guarantee, but it is also the duty of honest businesses to stand up to these kinds of abuses.  If Bigg Dogg asked me for a refund within the terms that we agreed to at the time of purchase he would get it, but if was attacking and harassing my employees, and attempting to get a refund outside of our agreed upon window, I'd like to think that I would stand up to him.  But I know I would cave too - the risks are too great; there are too many incredible people for whom my company creates honest jobs, too many customers that desperately want what we are providing!  To let one net value destroyer put my employees jobs and lives at risk through costly and lengthly litigation, or to slow down the stream of incredible values flowing to our happy customers - it just isn't worth it.

As more and more people read the Neo-Tech Information Packages, the world will change.  People will discover the euphoria of value creation -> they will find their passions and turn those passions into profitable businesses that enrich the lives of all their abundantly satisfied customers.  Those who currently sustain themselves through the use of initiatory force, threat of force, or fraud will have fewer and fewer victims as individuals realize who is attacking them and how those attacks are being executed.

Since I read the Neo-Tech literature may life has been a steady march of value creation.  It WAS HARD at first!  I had to really make some changes in my life!  But the honesty that I found in the Neo-Tech Information Packages gave me the courage to try!  Today, with productivity and profits constantly on the rise, life is improving for me, my family, my customers, and my community.  It is easier than ever to see through the dishonesties of context-manipulating losers.  You too can earn your livelihood through honest efforts; discover euphoric value creation; defend yourself and your loved ones against the ravaging hoards of parasitic net value destroyers seeking to live off wealth of others earned through honest value creation that benefited thousands of satisfied customers; achieve genuine pride and self-esteem; embrace the lover of your dreams; and experience real romantic love with deeper joy, connection, and passion than you ever dreamed.

When your invitation comes, don't let the drivel of envious losers keep you from discovering the life you were meant to live.

But even before your invitation arrives, you can start TODAY!  Get GOING NOW!  Turn your life into a mighty engine that makes things better!  Start Today with yourself and your family!  Look where you are headed if things don't change!  How long before the credit cards are ALL maxed out?!?  How long before the eviction notice or the foreclosure?  How long before you resort to begging or criminality to get by?  You can turn around any downward trends!  YOU can DO IT!  THINK!  LOOK!  If you can't see a way to do it, ask an honest person for help and accept the disciplines they recommend.  IT IS HARD!  IT MAY HURT!  BUT IT's WORTH IT!  And EVERYONE will benefit from your efforts!  Find JUST ONE WAY you can reduce your expenses, even just $0.01!  Find JUST ONE WAY you can honestly earn a little bit more money.  Soon you will be living within your means, and that will be the turning point in your life!  From that point you'll be able to help your loved ones turn their lives around too!  Fixing the economy is not something that the government can do, it must come one family at a time through hard work and honest efforts.  And once you reach the point of living honesty and within your means, Neo-Tech will be waiting to launch you into a prosperity explosion unlike anything you've ever dreamed!

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Nouveau-tech is OLD-OUT-DATED name from a while ago

AUTHOR: Tom K. - (United States of America)

  It is now, and has been for some time, called the Neothink(R) Society. A legitamate life changing series of books with valuable knowledge, techniques, and concepts available nowhere else. It has changed my life for the better.
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Neo-Tech Society Nova Tek Society Nouveau Tech Secret Socity Crazy Secret Society Scam 24352435 W. Horizon Ridge PKWY Nevada

AUTHOR: E.ray - (U.S.A.)

Hello to you in Horizon Ridge Parkway, Nevada.

I also received a letter with regard to purchasing a Neo-Tech book.  I felt very special as the letter was definately speaking to me about things and occurances for which I have often considered in Life.   I know the books are large.  But if you take the time you can finish a 600 page book within the 30 days.  I know the letters say that if you are not fully satisfied you have 30 days to return for a full refund.   I spent quite alot of time reading the 1st so as to finish in the 30 days.   In fact, I could not stop reading this book.....every page carried exactly what I was looking for.

Then I received a second and third book.  Each carried a 30 day money back guarantee.  I never considered returning the material.  Even if I was not satisfied the books carry enough valuable information to rest comfortably on any home library shelf and retain their value.

I am sorry you had such a bad experience.   When you sent the book back did you send it certified?  I always do that (certified with a signature) so as to be sure the item is not lost in the disfunctional mail system.  I would have to say to you that you seem to hold alot of bitterness.   Please try to release all of that negativity as it is not healthy for you to hold on to all of that anger.

It's just a book......I had my foot crushed at work and lost my job due to the injury.  It was misdiagnosed and I almost lost my foot.  Because of the mis-diagnosis I had to spend one year in pain and have a total of three surgeries.   If I had chosen to be bitter I do not think I would have been able to keep my foot.

Since receiving the material from Neo-Tech, I have found a NEWER, MORE POSITIVE OUTLOOK IN LIFE that is PRICELESS.

Thank you for your time and I hope you can find some peace in your future dealings with mail order companies.  I am glad I received the material from Neo-Tech.

E. Ray

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