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Complaint Review: OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC. - Internet

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  • OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC. 1 Maiden Lane 5th Floor Internet United States of America

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Where do I start? I found his website from his facebook page "Masterofallbulldogs RealworkingDogs" and I liked the pictures of the dogs. So I sent a message to him asking for more information. He claimed to be in charge of some registry/rescue which later I found out to be something he completely made up and is not recognized by any Registry in the world. 

He gave me his site, http://www.OldBulldogs.com, which is also listed as http://realoldeenglishbulldogges.webs.com

I went to his site with intentions of getting a pup, but he kept pushing me on a 2yr old Male which he said was one of his best pets on his yard. After about 5-7 phone calls, we agreed upon the male. I shown my family the dog. My wife and daughter fell in love with the dog as we saw numerous pictures, and we couldnt wait to get the doggie and make him a member of our household. 

First, he lied about the price, told us the charges were $1500 which included shipping, so I paid. About a few days after payment, he called me begging to "Borrow" $250! That was the first red flag! What type of reputable company calls begging their customers for money, even after they've made payment? I totally refused to lend money to anyone I didnt know. A few days later He called and said, "In order for me to send the dog. I will need $250 for shipping." I had already spent $1500, and didnt want to lose that so I immed sent $250 which I at this point was totally nervous about. 

About 1 and a half months go by he finally shipped the dog (which after I made several threats to call police and take legal action). When I got the pup from the airport I couldnt believe what I saw. He was completely underweight, his ribs were heavily showing and had a sagging belly. I immed took him to our local vet. The vet was almost in tears herself and couldnt believe that anyone, especially a kennel would treat a dog in such a way. To make a long story short, Madden (our dogs new name) had a stomach full of worms, and was heavily malnourished. We had to spend close to another $1000 just to get him back in tip-top shape. My family is truly blessed that we have saved a dog's (Madden) life. He is the best dog anyone can have. He runs, play with the frisby and even sits on back of my daughter's powerwheel. 

I called Old Bulldogs to explain to them the total neglect Madden had received in their yard. this time I got a lady on the phone (which turned out to be his girlfriend) who explained to me that they are not responsible for any dogs once they leave their yard. I was highly upset at this point and explained to her that I will be taking her kennel to court. She cursed me out telling me to go to h*ll and said these exact words, "Just a little piece of advice, Never buy a dog off the internet"......I was floored by her ignorance and non-willingness to help. This company needs to be shut down, once and for all. IF YOU HAVE PURCHASED A DOG FROM THIS KENNEL/REGISTRY/RESCUE (or whatever they like to consider themselves), PLEASE LET YOUR EXPERIENCE BE KNOWN!!!! Its sad that a company which consider themselves a kennel rescue would treat a dog like filth.  

I've called the UKC, ADBA, and AKC and all 3 of them have never heard of his registry "Oreba Kennel Registry." 

THIS GUY IS A COMPLETE BACKYARD BREEDER!!! HE SUCKS YOU IN TELLING YOU HE OWNS A KENNEL REGISTRY, DOG RESCUE BUSINESS AND HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE THE 1950s. HE IS A COMPLETE LIAR AND I WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS TO OTHERS!!!!!!

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#7 Consumer Comment

Everything Leo/Kwame says is a LIE!

AUTHOR: Pissmeoff - ()

POSTED: Sunday, March 01, 2015

He ripped me off as well. Kwame and Leo ae the SAME person. The guy has mental problems, look above he clearly addmits to selling the puppy then says he never did lol. He did the SAME to me! After my incident I found this site that had all these facts about this scammer.

orebaregistery.tripod.com/

 

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YOU ARE KNOWN LIAR AND CRAZY LADY

AUTHOR: OldRedEnglishBulldogsKennelInc - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 25, 2011
I TOLD YOU BEFORE I SEND YOU THE PUPPY IT HAD LITTLE HEALTH PROBLEM. THAT WAS UMBILICAL HERNIA ON HIS BELLY BUTTON. I TOLD YOU DO YOU WANT A DIFFERENT PUPPY YOU TOLD ME NO. LET KEEP REAL. YOU ARE FOOL.  WHAT THE CONSUMER WANT THE CONSUMER GET. THAT IS HOW WE DO BUSINESS. LET KEEP IT REAL YOU TOLD ME THE UMBILCAL HERNIA WENT DOWN BY IT SELF. I HAVE E-MAIL YOU SEND ME WITH YOUR AOL E-MAIL. YOU DON'T FIND ME ON FACE BOOK. YOU FIND ME ON PUPPY FOR SALE WEB SITE. LETS BE REAL. YOU KNOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE REALLY SLOW, STUPID AND KNOWN LIAR. I KEEP IT 1000% WITH MY CONSUMERS. I DON'T HANGED PAPER WORK LIKE SOME OF YOU PEOPLE DO. I HAVE REAL GAME BRED WORKING HUNTING APBTS.   I WILL POST THE E-MAIL YOU SEND ME. I SAVE EVERYTHING. REAL DOG BUSINESS HERE. MY OLDERS DOGS FIX THE ORIGINAL SET STANDARD OF THE REAL APBTS. 35 TO 60LBS FOR MALES. THEY DON'T HAVE HANGING LIPS LIKE BULLDOG HAVE THEY ARE NOT BLUE. WHY LIE ON HERE I HAVE REAL PROOF. YOU WAS LOOKING ON http://www.hoobly.com.
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YOU ARE KNOWN LIAR AND CRAZY LADY

AUTHOR: OldRedEnglishBulldogsKennelInc - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 25, 2011
YOU PAYED $750 FOR THE PUPPY IN 5/11/2010 I SHIP THE PUPPY FOR YOU COD. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR PUPPY PURCHASE CONTRACT. THIS IS A LIE. YOU HAVE ONE LIE RIGHT THERE. MY PUPPY WAS SEND FROM VETERINARY HOSPITAL BE FOR GET ON THE PLANE TO COME TO YOU. I TOLD YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PUPPY. YOU TOLD ME TO SEND IT. YOU ARE MAD BECAUSE I DON'T USE ADBA OR UKC PAPER WORK. THAT IS REAL PROBLEM. YOU ARE KNOWN LIAR. THAT IS FACT. SO SORRY ABOUT MY OTHER RACIST POST. I WAS MAD BECAUSE THIS WHITE LADY IS TELLING LIES. TO THE WORLD. MY GREAT GRAND FATHER STARTED THIS BUSINESS IN 1950. I DON'T LIE AT ALL. YOU ARE IDIOT AND MORON. I NEVER SOLD YOU SICK DOG. YOU REALLY NEED TO STOP LYING. LET KEEP IT REAL AND STOP BEING LYING b***h. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE BEING RIGHT NOW.  I WILL POST UP THE  PUPPY PURCHASE CONTRACT THAT YOU SIGNED  YOU ARE KNOWN b***h AND KNOWN LIAR. I WILL ALSO POST E-MAIL THAT YOU SAID THE DOG WAS GREAT AND YOU LOVE HIM.

Sincerely
Old Red English Bulldogs Kennel Inc.
The Finest Breeds Available
Home Of the Imported Bloodlines
Home Of The Winston Bloodlines
Office: 347-231-8242
Office: 516-204-2643
Office: 843-688-5098
Office: 347-403-0729
Fax: 843-688- 5128
http://www.OldBullDogs.com

http://www.WorkingMolosserDogs.com
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION Inc. (OREBA)

AUTHOR: HatingLyingPeople - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2011
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP LYING TO MUCH. PEOPLE NEED TO STOP GETTING MAD THEN TRYING TO LIE ON SOMEBODY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CLUE ABOUT. THIS IS A LIE. I WILL KEEP SAYING THIS. MY NAME IS LEO ROMAS THE PRESIDENT OF OREBAINC. THIS LADY CALL UP THE BBB AKA BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU THE STAFF MEMBER FROM THERE NAME WAS REGINA DIAZ. YOU CAN CALL UP THE BBB (columbia.bbb.org). SHE WAS TRYING TO GET $600 OUT OF ME. LIKE I SOLD HER THE DOG OR PUPPY. WHAT A MORON SHE IS. WHAT A FOOL SHE IS.  I TOLD THEM THAT WE NEVER SOLD THIS LADY A DOG IN MY LIFE. THIS LADY IS CRAZY AND MAD ABOUT LIFE.  WATCH OUT PEOPLE. PEOPLE LIE JUST TO MAKE OTHER PEOPLE LOOK BAD.



OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION Inc. (OREBA)
DOGREGISTRY- DOGRESCUE- HUMANRIGHTS- ANIMALRIGHTS 


The OREBA Registry and Rescue is a not-for-profit association dedicated to the love and safety of all canine breeds. We are a young agency working diligently to enhance our development as a proprietary entity in the animal care industry. We are avid animal lovers who are trained and skilled in optimal pet care and strive to ensure the wellbeing of all animals.

Our Registry provides professional registration of your pet and its pedigree. We validate that your animal is of its own distinguished breed.

Our Rescue Mission is a gracious effort to help abandoned and stray canines as well as assist owners who no longer can adequately care for their pets. We are available 24 hours a day to rescue these less fortunate animals.

Our Soon To Be Prison Dog Training program provides companionship, an encouraging boost to morale, expert training and preparation for employment upon release for non-violent convicts. We also rally efforts for todays youth. We provide a safe outlet for the young to beat the streets and channel their high energy into constructive activities with our structured animal care youth training program.

All around OREBA offers fulfilling and positive interaction between animals, particularly canines and humans. We enhance the love and reveal the genuine benefits of the owner/pet relationship.

The OREBA is aware of the infractions against honest and law-abiding pet owners who have been characterized as animal abusers by a few zealous animal rights organizations. Many of these alleged animal rights advocates seek their own gain and serve their own agendas. It is ironic as well as oxymoronic to allege to promote the rights of vulnerable animals, particularly canines and order the senseless killing of many of the breeds they confiscate from often falsely accused owners. That is why at the OREBA we are working to expose false animal rights manipulators and perpetrators who prey on innocent animal lovers and seek to exterminate certain canine breeds. We know that not all animal rights advocates are the same. We have however witnessed entrapments of innocent pet lovers by such political lobbyists. Many who seek personal fame and gain rather than the true safety of animals. Cases in particular, are BSL, PETA, HSUS, ISPEAK Inc and a lot more. Who have used unethical ensnarement and entrapment practices to deceive the innocent.

We need your help to prevent criminalization and victimization of those who love all breeds. We need help to ensure that your civil rights, constitutional rights and human rights are not further violated. We are here to help breeders and other dog lovers to safely enjoy their breeds and understand the unwarranted and subtle campaigns of false animal rights advocates. Join us in this effort. Help us fight the lies, hypocrisy and victimizing tactics used by these self consumed individuals.


Your responsible tax deductible contribution(s) will help keep beloved breeds alive. Send all donations to P.O. Box 1680, Moncks Corner, SC 29461. Your support may protect you from becoming the next victim of entrapment and defamation of character. OREBA needs your contributions to retain competent legal advisers and to lobby for an appropriate well rounded understanding of the working canine and its owner.

Follow this link to support OREBACLUBS: http://www.orebaregistry.com/payment.php

We are currently running a fundraising drive to retrieve old and used cell phones in fair condition. These phones are recycled back to suppliers who will donate funds to the OREBA.

We are seeking supportive contributions and donations to help develop and grow this canine loyal organization.



Thank you for your support.
 
 
Sincerely
LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT
OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.
We are here to Registry,
Rescue All Molosser Bulldogs,
AmBulldogs, Bandogges,
Bandogs and Mastiffs. We Also Are
HumanRights and AnimalRight Association.
Office: 646-265-4757
Office: 347-688-6327
Office: 843-568-6646
Office: 516-282-4591

OREBA REGISTRY KENNEL CLUBS INC.
http://www.OREBARegistry.com

OREBA RESCUE NETWORK GROUP
http://www.OREBARescue.webs.com

REAl WORKING MOLOSSER DOG PAGE
http://www.RealOldeEnglishBulldogges.webs.com
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.

AUTHOR: HatingLyingPeople - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 21, 2011
I NEVER SOLD YOU A DOG THAT IS A LIE. I DON'T BREED. YOU ARE STUPID FEMALE. THIS IS THAT FEMALE NAME KAREN FISHER AKA KAREN WOLFE THAT BROUGTH A DOG FROM ONE OR BREEDERS THAT I REGISTRY HIS DOGS WITH. IF YOU READ HIS WEB SITE IT SAID AKC, OREBA AND FCI REGISTRY DOGS AND PUPPIES. YOU ARE MORONS MY NAME IS LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT. REMEMBER THIS IDIOT AND MORON. I DON'T SELL DOGS. I DON'T BREED DOGS. YOU ARE WRONG RIGHT THERE. MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE FOOL AND SLOW AND STUPID.

OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION Inc. (OREBA)
DOGREGISTRY- DOGRESCUE- HUMANRIGHTS- ANIMALRIGHTS 


The OREBA Registry and Rescue is a not-for-profit association dedicated to the love and safety of all canine breeds. We are a young agency working diligently to enhance our development as a proprietary entity in the animal care industry. We are avid animal lovers who are trained and skilled in optimal pet care and strive to ensure the wellbeing of all animals.

Our Registry provides professional registration of your pet and its pedigree. We validate that your animal is of its own distinguished breed.

Our Rescue Mission is a gracious effort to help abandoned and stray canines as well as assist owners who no longer can adequately care for their pets. We are available 24 hours a day to rescue these less fortunate animals.

Our Soon To Be Prison Dog Training program provides companionship, an encouraging boost to morale, expert training and preparation for employment upon release for non-violent convicts. We also rally efforts for todays youth. We provide a safe outlet for the young to beat the streets and channel their high energy into constructive activities with our structured animal care youth training program.

All around OREBA offers fulfilling and positive interaction between animals, particularly canines and humans. We enhance the love and reveal the genuine benefits of the owner/pet relationship.

The OREBA is aware of the infractions against honest and law-abiding pet owners who have been characterized as animal abusers by a few zealous animal rights organizations. Many of these alleged animal rights advocates seek their own gain and serve their own agendas. It is ironic as well as oxymoronic to allege to promote the rights of vulnerable animals, particularly canines and order the senseless killing of many of the breeds they confiscate from often falsely accused owners. That is why at the OREBA we are working to expose false animal rights manipulators and perpetrators who prey on innocent animal lovers and seek to exterminate certain canine breeds. We know that not all animal rights advocates are the same. We have however witnessed entrapments of innocent pet lovers by such political lobbyists. Many who seek personal fame and gain rather than the true safety of animals. Cases in particular, are BSL, PETA, HSUS, ISPEAK Inc and a lot more. Who have used unethical ensnarement and entrapment practices to deceive the innocent.

We need your help to prevent criminalization and victimization of those who love all breeds. We need help to ensure that your civil rights, constitutional rights and human rights are not further violated. We are here to help breeders and other dog lovers to safely enjoy their breeds and understand the unwarranted and subtle campaigns of false animal rights advocates. Join us in this effort. Help us fight the lies, hypocrisy and victimizing tactics used by these self consumed individuals.


Your responsible tax deductible contribution(s) will help keep beloved breeds alive. Send all donations to P.O. Box 1680, Moncks Corner, SC 29461. Your support may protect you from becoming the next victim of entrapment and defamation of character. OREBA needs your contributions to retain competent legal advisers and to lobby for an appropriate well rounded understanding of the working canine and its owner.

Follow this link to support OREBACLUBS: http://www.orebaregistry.com/payment.php

We are currently running a fundraising drive to retrieve old and used cell phones in fair condition. These phones are recycled back to suppliers who will donate funds to the OREBA.

We are seeking supportive contributions and donations to help develop and grow this canine loyal organization.



Thank you for your support.
 
 
Sincerely
LEO ROMAS PRESIDENT
OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION INC.
We are here to Registry,
Rescue All Molosser Bulldogs,
AmBulldogs, Bandogges,
Bandogs and Mastiffs. We Also Are
HumanRights and AnimalRight Association.
Office: 646-265-4757
Office: 347-688-6327
Office: 843-568-6646
Office: 516-282-4591

OREBA REGISTRY KENNEL CLUBS INC.
http://www.OREBARegistry.com

OREBA RESCUE NETWORK GROUP
http://www.OREBARescue.webs.com

REAl WORKING MOLOSSER DOG PAGE
http://www.RealOldeEnglishBulldogges.webs.com
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#2 Consumer Comment

Never buy a dog period!

AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, September 19, 2011

Always go to your local animal shelter and adopt a doomed pet. As for the bilious rebuttal by the supposed business owner, forget it! You just ain't looking too good here. The OP story sounds too believable.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

This is not my Business OREBA Understand this

AUTHOR: realpitbullbreeders - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, September 19, 2011

You pay $1500 for one my dogs that is a lie. Show proof that you did. Stop lying. My Business name is Old Red English Bulldogs Kennel Inc. That is my business name. Understand that. Stop Lying.  If you payed $1500 you will have Puppy Purchase Agreement. Let see that.


We are License Dog Kennel with Secretary of State New York State and South Carolina State. We also Registry with BBB aka Better Business Bureau. Molosser Bulldogs, Bulldogges, Bandogs, Bandogges and Mastiffs Puppies For Sale. For more info  We need you to fill out this application out right Here. http://www.oldbulldogs.com/contact.php


this is bull s**t

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