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Complaint Review: Ripoff Report | Online Trading Academy TRUSTED Business | Ripoff Report Verified Safe™ …businesses consumers can trust. Online Trading Academy's roots can be traced back to 1997, as one of the largest trading floors in the U.S., with 180 traders averaging half a billion dollars in daily transactions. To improve results, managers and the top traders offered daily coaching sessions in how to trade more consistently and profitably. - Denver Colorado

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  • Online Trading Academy TRUSTED Business | Ripoff Report Verified Safe™ …businesses consumers can trust. Online Trading Academy's roots can be traced back to 1997, as one of the largest trading floors in the U.S., with 180 traders averaging half a billion dollars in daily transactions. To improve results, managers and the top traders offered daily coaching sessions in how to trade more consistently and profitably. 7535 E. Hampden Ave. Denver, Colorado USA

Online Trading Academy TRUSTED Business REVIEW: Online Trading Academy students feel confident they are receiving the finest quality financial education. Online Trading Academy is dedicated to 100% student satisfaction and success. Commitment to Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program, a program benefiting consumers, ensuring complete satisfaction & confidence when doing business.


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EDitor's UPDATE: Positive rating and recognition has been given to Online Trading Academy for its full commitment to quality customer service.

Ripoff Report's discussions with Online Trading Academy have uncovered an ongoing dedication by the company to total client satisfaction. This means that clients can expect that the company will work towards finding a mutually satisfactory resolution to any concerns. Online Trading Academy listens carefully to client concerns and sees them as an opportunity to learn from past mistakes and become more efficient as a company in the services offered and the support for those services.

Positive rating and recognition has been given to Online Trading Academy for its commitment to excellence in customer service.

Online Trading Academy is Ripoff Report Verified
Ripoff Report Verified™ .. part of Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program.A program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business..



The information provided in this report below is based on comments made by Eyal Shahar & Jeremy Nosek during an onsite inspection held by a third-party verification company with no biases towards Online Trading Academy.

Online Trading Academy teaches financial education, long-term investments, trading, in addition to several other financially based courses. Mr. Eyal Shahar stated the following about his company, "we’ve developed a really unique educational model that provides lifelong education. So, from our perspective, we see really great results for our students. Of course, we cannot have a specific schedule that ends because we want to support them for however long it takes for them to be successful. And that’s kind of the environment that we created. So we’ve got the physical courses in the physical centers with virtual help literally every day in kind of virtual rooms, that’s there to help them with no time expiration. It’s a lifelong relationship - that’s kind of what we do."

Leads for Online Trading Academy primary come through online advertising. Online Trading Academy ensures that all interested students are able to fully explore the courses available to them, "so usually we schedule with them several meetings and 3 days of orientation that allows them to kind of map out where they are and where they want to go. And through the process, it is also explained the types of courses that are available. And if you choose to join the academy - they select the path together with an educational counselor of which specific courses to take to achieve their financial goals. The initial courses are always physical, and every single course has a virtual environment that is a continuation of the physical course, which allows them the ability to go retake the classes physically or virtually in any combination they want for the rest of their lives. So there’s no time limitation or support limitation in any way."



CUSTOMER CARE & COMPLAINT RESOLUTION – ONLINE TRADING ACADEMY

During the on-site interview, Mr. Shahar was asked to describe a situation where a client was not satisfied with the level of service they received. Mr. Shahar expressed that they rarely will receive complaints from actual students in their program. However, "if you look at Ripoff Report most of the people that have written any comments are people that went to a half day free class, and decided not to buy." He additionally stated, "we have 97% satisfaction from all of our students. You can actually look at our website. I believe in transparency and all of our classroom surveys are automatically uploaded to our website and accessible from the home page from any center in the World, real time."

When asked to comment on complaints posted on Ripoff Report's website Mr. Jeremy Nosek stated the following, "I think the surprising thing that we’ve seen is that there are no comments on there that are actually from students. What we’ve seen is that people will come in and they had an expectation of a workshop that was different than what was delivered to them. That’s primarily been the postings that we’ve seen on Ripoff Report. They are really coming from folks that have decided to come into the free half-day class and explore Online Trading Academy and then deciding that maybe we are not a good fit for them." While there are no accreditations for their field Online Trading Academy recently obtained BCorp Certification which shows to the public that they can adhere to strict and professional criteria in order to provide students with the highest quality of educational materials.

When asked what type of changes they have made to honor their commitment to making things right with the consumer per the request of Ripoff Report, Mr. Nosek stated, "I think one of the things that we’ve really focused in on is the difference in training and investing education, between knowledge seeking and skill building. We really believe that investing and trading is a skill that you acquire more than it is a subject to be studied...so we at the academy really believe that for folks that decide that this is really something they want to do, not that this is a hobby for them to dabble in - but something they want to commit to that can give them a better lifestyle or better prepare for retirement; we like to go in and make sure that we set really clear expectations that this is not an overnight success - this is a process that they really need to commit themselves to. It takes a lot of time and energy to learn to master these skills. I think one of the things we’ve done over the past couple years is that we shifted our model of how students evaluate the education to it used to be that they would come in and take a free half-day class then make a decision on whether or not they wanted to move forward with the academy. And what we found was that for a lot of people, that was a lot of information really fast. They were in a situation where they were finding themselves making a pretty big decision on changing a part of their lifetime, money and commitment. And what we’ve done in the last couple of years is we’ve really slowed that process down for students."

Online Trading Academy is proud to be a part of Ripoff Reports Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program, "I’m really looking forward to this opportunity to partner together to make sure that people that go through Ripoff Report will have the right image for the academy. We work so hard for students to be successful in what they do and really benefiting from the education that we have. So, I’m really excited about the opportunity in partnering up with you and creating the image."



ONLINE TRADING ACADEMY – STATEMENT FROM THE COMPANY

" As a certified B Corporation, Online Trading Academy is committed to making a positive difference in the world. Certified B Corps aspire to use the power of business to solve social and environmental problems, meeting performance standards that measure a company’s impact on all of its stakeholders (e.g., workers, suppliers, community, customers and the environment). “The financial education we provide has the power to dynamically transform lives,” states Gene Longobardi, Online Trading Academy’s Chief Operating Officer. “Most people pursue our education in order to positively impact others, whether it’s a family member, another individual, a community or a worthy cause. Our entire organization is proud to be part of this global movement of using business as a force for good.”

Student satisfaction rises as students go deeper into the Online Trading Academy curriculum through education in trading and investing multiple asset classes. Unedited reviews on the Online Trading Academy website demonstrate this, with an average 4.76 rating out of 5 from over 165,000 reviewers.

One of the ways Online Trading Academy demonstrates its commitment to student success is allowing enrolled students lifetime class retakes at no additional charge. Ongoing support is also available from instructors and fellow students, because Online Trading Academy is a community of success-minded individuals dedicated to helping one another.

The U.S. stock markets were up nearly 20% in 2017, giving Online Trading Academy students the potential for exceptional gains. However, Online Trading Academy teaches investors how they can make money whether the market is up down or sideways. These skills are designed to help them secure a better future for their families. Online Trading Academy takes employee satisfaction seriously as well. Employee feedback and surveys reveal comments such as this, "From our beginnings in 1997, Online Trading Academy has sought to create success by teaching trading and investing skills. Originally, we provided training for individuals on our dedicated trading floor (then the second largest in the U.S.). Our instructors include former brokers, a Wall Street Market Maker, financial advisors and successful students. Every single person on our team is dedicated to helping students build the knowledge, skills and confidence to succeed in realizing their financial dreams. While we do our best to describe our program in the free preview class, it is not the same as taking education at Online Trading Academy. Talk to our students, or read the reviews on our website, to understand how deeply committed we are to their success. "

Ripoff Report was pleased to learn that Online Trading Academy's past and current approach to business is focused on its pledge to total commitment towards client and employee satisfaction.



STATED IMPROVEMENTS FROM ONLINE TRADING ACADEMY

Online Trading Academy recognizes that complaints posted on Ripoff Report (whether true or not) are issues that need to be addressed, not ignored. If handled correctly, complaints can be valuable learning opportunities. With the feedback generated by Ripoff Report's review, Online Trading Academy has made organizational changes allowing its clients and employees a more streamlined approach to problem resolution and a commitment to a great client experience.

In summary, after our review, which included discussions with Eyal Shahar, Ripoff Report is convinced that Online Trading Academy is committed to quality delivery of services resulting in total client satisfaction.



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Ripoff Report has determined that Online Trading Academy meets Ripoff Report Verified™ standards which include a commitment to make a good faith effort to resolve any consumer complaints. Members of the Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction program do pay a fee for our on-site review, 24-hour monitoring and for support with customers to resolve any disagreements.

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Read more about why consumers should feel confident when doing business with a member of Ripoff Report's Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. Yes, it’s a long name for a program that does a lot for both consumers and businesses alike.

Read about Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program, a program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. This program works.

As a matter of policy, when a business becomes a member of the Corporate Advocacy Program they agree to allow Ripoff Report to contact every client who filed a complaint, so they can make things right with them. In order to confirm that the complaints were resolved, Ripoff Report is copied on all responses, so we can insure that the member business did right by their customer.

NOW TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WAS FILED

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Online Trading Academy Denver Colorado

I had a very strange experience with Online Trading Academy in Denver. I took the half day class and was intrigued so I signed up for the 3 day course. By the time that I started the 3 day course, I had pretty much decided that I was going to pony up the $40,000 to learn their system in depth. The 3 day course was disappointing in that approximately 80% of it was sales pitch to try to entice the participants into buying the main courses. It got very boring as I had already decided that I was going forward. Anyway, I asked for a copy of the "contract" so that I could review it. There was some confusing verbage in it regarding the refund policy. I had decided to ask my lawyer what it meant and left early on day 3 since the hardcore sales pressure was wearing on me and I had already decided to go for it. I wasn't gone 30 minutes and I received a call from my "counselor". I explained my feelings about the constant sales pitch and the ambiguous refiund language. I asked him what it meant. He was not familiar with it and acted confused. Then, he asked me if I had talked with the other participants during breaks about what they thought of the program. I told him that I had not because it did not matter to me what anyone else had thought about it. I asked him if the advanced classes were riddled with sales pitch like the 3 day. He said no. I told him I needed to understand the refund policy. It was then that he told me that if I had any doubts, I should not pony up the $40,000 and take the advanced classes. That's when it occurred to me that they were nervous about the contract and preferred that I declined continuation. I stopped at that point and did not go forward. I think I dodged a bullet. I think he did me a favor. Very strange.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/23/2014 07:16 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/online-trading-academy-trusted-business-ripoff-report-verified-safe-businesses-consumers-can-trust-online-trading-academys-roots-can-be-traced-back-to-1997-as-one-of-the-largest-trading-floors-in-the-us-with-180-traders-averaging-half-a-billion-dollars-in-daily-transactions-to-improve-results-managers-and-the-top-traders-offered-daily-coaching-sessions-in-how-to-trade-more-consistently-and-profitably/denver-colorado-80231/online-trading-academy-denver-colorado-1190941. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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#3 Consumer Comment

Another Opinion of OTA

AUTHOR: chewy.baca - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, August 14, 2016

The counselors always make sure that you have an out and arent under any pressure to join the OTA. Ive been there as a student for the last 3 years and I understand the program vey well. I have just started trading live money and I am already profitable as are hundreds of others from the Denver center.

It was good that you decline to join. Trading is not for everyone and if you are going to second guess anything youve ever done, better it be joining at all then second guessing your trades when it is time to put real money at risk. Those of us at the OTA prefer to handle our own financial investments.

As for the sales pitch.... it is just that. No one is trying to hide that. That is how students are brought in.... in any classroom.... at any school. If that makes you nervous ........ then you got out at the right time. 

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AUTHOR: Pat C - ()

POSTED: Monday, November 24, 2014

I think you misread my report. I was impressed with the OTA program and had decided to buy it. The minute I asked for clarification on the ambiguity in the contract, the counselor acted as though he was unfamiliar with the contract and criticized me for not finding out what other participants thought of the three day sales pitch. In addition, because I asked questions about the contract, he advised me that apparently I was not 100% certain so I should not sign up. I found this behavior kind of "cult" like. I think you may be right about the OTA program but I will never know. Perhaps, I just had the bad luck of drawing an inexperienced or uninformed counselor. I was ready to plop down the $40K. I just wanted to understand the contract. I found his reluctance to answer my question both concerning and very strange.

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#1 General Comment

You most likely lost out on a lot of education

AUTHOR: John - ()

POSTED: Monday, November 24, 2014

I am not familiar specifically with the Denver office but I have extensive experience with other OTA offices as a student. It sounds like the counselor was fair with you and not trying to escape any problem.

$40,000 is a lot of money and any where ever  you go there is a cost to learning these trading practicies. You can step in a class at a time and pay as you go, I did. I have also taken trading courses at other companies that have education programs.

By far my best value was at OTA and I am an extended learning track graduate.

I use their education everyday in trading and managing my investments. I do not primarly day trade but swing and posistion trade and their education was very valuable from the techincal side of the trading system.

What I liked is they use proffessional traders to teach the classes and you can retake them forever without any additional cost. I took several two or three times, there is a lot to learn and remember.

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