• Report: #284014
Complaint Review:

Outside Magazine

  • Submitted: Fri, November 09, 2007
  • Updated: Fri, September 07, 2012

  • Reported By:boulder city Nevada
Outside Magazine
Santa FE, New Mexico U.S.A.

Outside Magazine Outside Magazine is a bunch of Yuppie Liars Santa FE New Mexico

*General Comment: Why would someone slander another?

*Consumer Comment: Lame Character Assassination

*General Comment: You mean Wanna-Be-Yuppies?

*Author of original report: Brad is still lying.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: False attack on my reputation

*General Comment: I hope this was resolved but if not please read:

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I am a proffesional guide, and have been one for years. In early 2005, I took one of Outside Magazine's editors, Brad Wetzler, on a private trip down the Black Canyon of the Colorado, south of Las Vegas.

First of all, for someone who is supposed to be an outdoors writer, Brad was a total sissy. He couldn't paddle, couldn't hike, and didn't even really want to explore any of the awesome places that I usually take regular tourists. Brad didn't bring a photographer, or a camera, so I wondered what they would do for pics.

After the trip, my girfriend and I took Brad to dinner, and I even offered to give him some of the photos I have for the article. I also gave him a lot of background info about the area that I had and suggested a few other places he might visit, since the article was supposed to be on Nevada.

Months later, the article came out, I didn't even know even though I had looked for it on the shelves. Friends pointed it out to me later.

The article was barely noticeable, since there were almost no photos. I read the article and was SHOCKED and PISSED OFF. Brad has me as a fat, cigarette smoking, donut munching tool.

First of all, this moron has me mixed up with the van driver, even though I had spent the entire day dragging his whoossy a*s down the river. He described me as "a little round" and "puffing on a butt". You can see pictures of me on articles that appeared in Sunset magazine and the Milwaukee Journal
(google it, I didn't take time to find the links, sorry), I am obviously not "round". In season I kayak at least ten miles a day. Furthermore, I DO NOT SMOKE! I have never smoked. In fact, I get really bad migraines from being around it, the reason I quit my casino job several years ago.

Then, the article was completely innacurate, as if it were written by someone who wasn't even there. The river trip part was completely ridiculous, ending with us paddling up-river to Hoover Dam. You try that some time and see how far you get, especially dragging a wimpy mag editor with you! There were lots of other innacuracies throughout the article, to the point of being downright insulting to the state of Nevada.

I contacted the senior editor Dianna Delling about this issue. Apparently, Dianna is another liar. I see a pattern. She told me that she would have their fact-checking deptartment look into it. That was 2 years ago. I have heard nothing, despite writing to them several more times. So here we are.

My problem is that now if you web search my name, this turd of an article comes up (unfortunately well before the several good articles I have been in), making me look like an a-hole, particlularly to a prospective employer. If there is any lawyer out there who thinks I have a case, let me know, I'll give you a huge cut.

I realize that this site mostly exposes shoddy mechanics and things like that, but I hope at least to save at least one person from believing that they can trust what they read in this crappy rag. I have seen a lot of other screwed up articles in there, I don't belive anything they say. I mean, now they present Newt Gingrich as an environmentalist? Wow. Obviously, they are not a credible outdoor mag, and now they are just for Hummer driving car camping yuppies who think if they buy outdoor gear, it makes them outdoorsmen. Outside magazine sucks. They are liars.What a bunch of scumbags.


boulder city, Nevada

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#1 General Comment

Why would someone slander another?

AUTHOR: TruthWins - (USA)

In reading this report I am outraged and protective of any human being who is slandered based on trivial and insignificant information that may effect the trajectory of their life or just their well-being. Why would anyone want to ruin someone's reputation? The only reason I suppose is this person who responed to the original report is very hurt and angry and most likely had a very disturbed childhood and surrounding. And I have alot of compassion for you. Instead of writing ridiculous personal things that are one-sided why not go and seek help to grow as a person and to grow beyond your past so you can make a new life for yourself. It is one thing to write about a business when we feel like a business has effected our reputation as a vulnerable human but it is another to be a scorned person who feels wronged and slander someone without a two way conversation. Since when is the Ripp Off report used as a platform for personal matters. As a person who specializes in treating people with deep psychological pain, fragmentation, and delusion I urge you to just get help and to stop using this forum. I wish you love and light.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Lame Character Assassination

AUTHOR: AllOfGodsMoney - (USA)

 This entire thread is like a fifth grade spit wad fight. None of the information here is relevant or helpful. Do I need to know that some ex-friend of some writer for outside magazine thinks that he is bipolar, can't really write well, should've been a travel writer, and wears dirty clothes? Are you effing kidding me? This is unnecessarily hurtful. You are all a bunch of mean little children and I can't believe there is a moderated forum for such garbage.

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#3 General Comment

You mean Wanna-Be-Yuppies?

AUTHOR: J - (United States of America)


I read your comment headline and couldn't help expressing how it is a vibe, "The Day of Maana", where those who believe in the hype never flush for number one but may for number two because they are saving. What? I have no clue but I have to chalk it up to the bulls^*t they say.

I hope you and your business has done well regardless of this blunder. It was not nice and neither is he. What comes around comes back in Karma times ten, times ten. My mother always said that.

He doesn't know anyone involved in yet he hunts you down on Facebook. That's another MO of his by the way. If you are a female he will find out your name and look you up on Facebook and find your interests. Then he is kind of stalker-ish. Now he did that to you to apologize.

I said he felt bad about it and that shows he did. I guess he hasn't changed where he will say one thing to you and another behind your back. But not bad enough to have to tell the truth.

I was never ever a "girlfriend" to this pathetic excuse of a man/person. I did care about him, once-upon-a-time because he seemed to be a good friend for a long long time. He sent me messages when I was upset. That changed though in 2009 and then he started sharing about his "truths". It was overwhelming the stuff he carries! The one I commented on because I told him Someone had said he was a hack writer. I looked it up in 2009 and read it. I had a Q & A With him about it.

I am not unstable either. He is the one that bipolar and narcissistic. I am not on any medication what so ever. Yet he sees a therapist and a psychiatrist. He can't even lie well and so I annoyed him like he did me to get him to leave me alone. My sisters advice was the best she had ever given me. Become needy like him but multiply it By 2. It worked like a charm! He couldn't stand it. I feel a little bad about that but he was doing some ugly things I didn't want around me. Nor him peeking in on my friends teen daughter was the icing on the cake! I would never bring him anywhere again. He dresses like a homeless person plus he has no taste. A white suit jacket? Seriously. Haha.

Brad seems to have many many regrets. He should because he seems to place himself in the most ridiculous situations and I dont understand why he would just learn to try and fix them. Instead it looks like he can't admit he made mistakes and to honorably fix them. He hides in shadows, that boy does, and I am glad you countered his rebuttal that shows you had a reason to post.
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#4 Author of original report

Brad is still lying.

AUTHOR: Shawn - (USA)

I was recently contacted via facebook by Brad Wetzler. He half-heartedly apologized, yet still offered little to no real explanation. Now I see that he has offered a rebuttal, claiming that he doesn't even know me. Here is the entire message:

"Shawn, I'm sure you remember me. I know that you were very angry with me about the mistakes I made in portraying you in my Outside magazine article about Nevada. I apologize for those mistakes. I know that doesn't fix the damage it did to your reputation. But I want you to know that I'm sorry. I don't blame you for writing the Rip-off Report review of that article. However, now that it's been several years, I'm wondering if you would consider asking Ripoff Review for the removal of the review.

I don't know if you've noticed but a very unstable person wrote a follow-up comment to your review. She was an unstable former girlfriend. She had nothing to do with the article or Outside magazine, yet her wild claims remain on the website. Would you consider calling me to discuss this matter. 505-690-0311. Again, I am sorry for the damage to your reputation. I don't blame you for writing your review. But the person who wrote the follow-up has an to grind against me. I'd like to see her comments removed, and I figure, if you remove your comment, then Ripoff Report would remove hers.  I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you.
Brad Wetzler"

Funny, he doesn't know who I am...
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

False attack on my reputation

AUTHOR: Brad - (United States of America)

My name is Brad Wetzler. I do not know Shawn **** or J, the persons filing the report. I don't know why they seek to damage my reputation. For the record, none of the allegations they makes is true. 
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#6 General Comment

I hope this was resolved but if not please read:

AUTHOR: J - (United States of America)

I was going to respond to this a couple years ago but got side tracked. D. Delling was,(they were divorcing in 2010) his wife, she was unethical in handling this, they both know better, but I think it was because he was messing up a lot. She covered for him in many many ways.

Yes, I know all the secrets he keeps (many)because we had been friends for ten plus years. We emailed daily until he would become obsessive and wear me out mentally with his neediness. I have just the facts mixed in with phone conversations, emails, texts, and one on one talks. After his "truths" came out over time, you realize he isn't an honest person at all, how can he say such mean things about people. Most were fabricated I came to find out later.

Which brings me to this grievance, I addressed it specifically with him, and giving my response.

He was the "round" one and due to his bipolar disorder his writing suffers.

He also has had dual knee issues which resulted in surgery, he is jealous of certain "looking" guys (my personal input based on his Vegas trip last March drunk dialing.. never good), but his biggest problem is that he will say one thing to your face and then retract it once he is no longer in ones presence. His story being twisted and people being confused is no surprise. He was heading down hill since his trip to India.

He is a liar. Yes. He should have never been a travel writer. He admits that but didn't fit in anywhere else for a job. He writes less and less if you notice. Disability is hard to admit but he needs to hang it up.

He also judges people by education, if they have a business, and acts so over privileged yet he'll wear stained or unwashed clothing. He is supported by his parents and whomever he attaches himself to. Hopefully he has his fingers crossed for one that has a business.

Who can trust facts when you make things up?

He resigned awhile ago now and his "wife" got laid off, but that's still a long unhonorable tale.

I could disclose many personal bad traits but I am sticking with the facts mainly.

He knows he did this guy wrong. Jealousy is not good when you are a writer.

Oh well just another in a string of bad choices that foolish person has made.
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