Paradise Farms/THe Paint Zone Hedi Saller ripoff Smiths Creek Michigan

I think verbally attacking my horses is a bit much. As far as her being a halfbred draft horse, I think you are mistaken. Also, as to my breeding my Saddlebred with a Fresian....I think will be a beautiful combination. My Saddlebred is a beautiful horse with a great personality and the stallion is a beautiful horse also with a great personality, what more could one ask for. I am not into horses for the money or noteriety, but only because I love them. And because I can afford to keep and raise these animals I don't see where it is anyones business. So to throw into this alot of other crap is pretty low. I think its best to burn this bridge and forget. I certainly don't need the little bit of money and since there will be no baby, there is nothing to negotiate about anyway. Goodluck in life. Sandy

For one I was told by you that YOUR vet stated she couldnt get an ultrasound until a few more months went by, because shes not far enough along... Well Thats false 14days after conception they can up until the day they give birth, Call Krause vet to confirm it! 586-784-9111 so yes I was a little thrown back by the fact you said this, because I knew right away it wasnt true!... 2cd Im not into breeding half bred draft horses EVER in my life! Your mare by mine and many others is NOT broodmare material for one she has known to and has kicked and bitten people for no apparent reason.I have no use for a horse like that or of that breed. IM not the one breeding Saddle breds to Friesians,Second of all that untrained horse you have, funny she was in training with gerado for about two months until she kept going CONSTANTLY lame, and I did see her get riddin. 3rd At the time that she was likely to get pregnant I myself OWNED TWO PURE BREED MARES. BOTH OF WHICH were boarded at your farm at the time, ONE apha(My hearts Dixie) and one aqha(TWO EYED TALLADEGA) so why on gods earth would I breed a half breed that to me is worth nothing. And for my stud fee its worth a lot more then two months of board, I dont charge 250. for it, its more than that. As far as contacting your vet why dont you call them and have them mail me all the info I need to take to my vet blood test etc. They have my address so it wouldnt be that big of a deal for them to do that, I want my vet to go over the results himself. And last but not least im sorry you got dragged into this, if this is really you, I still have a hard time thinking that it is. Anyways I didnt name, names on here to try to make myself look better , I know who did, the same person who talked into bringing both my horses to her place after this stuff with yours came up. Sorry if this seems bitter, but im sick and tired of all her catty and petty s**t, and im glad im done with her..Julie

If you read my email, I said that you (Julie) "suggested" that I may have somehow let this happen on purpose. I guess you just don't understand that there is NO WAY!!!!!!!! that I would have wanted my mare bred to your stallion ever(just not a good combination). I was totally in shock as to how this could have even happened. It makes me think that you have been involved in this type of a situation before (after all the thought QUICKLY came to your mind) so, I guess I could have turned it around and suggested that maybe YOU did this (to get a baby or get out of paying board).But, I didn't because I guess in the nieve world that I live in people wouldn't do things like that to each other. And to the suggestion of aborting, I don't care what it (the baby) would have been, aborting it was out of the question. However, since she is not pregnant, we'll just leave well enough alone. If you feel it in your heart to pay what is owed then do so, my vet is Stoney Creek Equine and I will give them permission to tell you that she is not pregnant. If not then let by gones be by gones.

If you read my email, I said that you (Julie) "suggested" that I may have somehow let this happen on purpose. I guess you just don't understand that there is NO WAY!!!!!!!! that I would have wanted my mare bred to your stallion ever(just not a good combination). I was totally in shock as to how this could have even happened. It makes me think that you have been involved in this type of a situation before (after all the thought QUICKLY came to your mind) so, I guess I could have turned it around and suggested that maybe YOU did this (to get a baby or get out of paying board).But, I didn't because I guess in the nieve world that I live in people wouldn't do things like that to each other. And to the suggestion of aborting, I don't care what it (the baby) would have been, aborting it was out of the question. However, since she is not pregnant, we'll just leave well enough alone. If you feel it in your heart to pay what is owed then do so, my vet is Stoney Creek Equine and I will give them permission to tell you that she is not pregnant. If not then let by gones be by gones.

I am making a correction on a post I did earlier, I thought when you filled these reports out you were to fill in who it was for or about in the first section of the report!

Correction on the feed store of New Haven Ele. it was Tack Shack owned by Laura at time Heidi used them.

Also, the one hay dealer did say in front of 4 people he wouldnt trade hoof trimmings for hay do to the fact that tina was associated with heidi. But you know this was back in 1999/2000, so ken did say that. I called tina today and she told me there was about 9 people at the old tack shack and heidi and sheba came in and got the customers stirdup pretty good. Jenn(another person that knows everything from the start)was there and seen and heard the whole thing too.

Andi, needs to go and read the other site:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=40482

This way she can see the mess Heidi has created, and what are you saying about her out in the barn morning and night,lol, well if you agree with feeding animals around noon to 1 pm as AM chores fine thats your choice. And as for cleaning, I know others cleans them stalls ,lol, not her! It seems funny you are the only boarder left there. Lets see, 2 yrs hummm well there is a hell of alot more people around involved and this has been going on for quiet a few years! Also to correct you on something, there is over 200 people on MHL site, THANK YOU! So if you are going to BASH that family oriented site you should first contact the managers and owner. And yes I do know what I am talking about when it comes to horses, I have rescued and delt with enough of them to know things. And to remind you that our vet is the vet Heidi used recently. Duh! If it wasn't for all of the rest of us (that uses them) she met back then she wouldn't to this day have a vet to call! If you dont believe me then start calling vets around her!!! You know what, The other some numbers of readers that have been reading this and haven't been posting to this has emailed me directly for pics and other info with phone numbers to check it out themselves.And another thing even if Julie needed any kind of money for her horses which didn't, She would of felt bad because you are already feeding nine others that aren't yours!

By the way, the new boarding farm Julie moved to is private and knows about the Heidi thing, HELL they knew about Heidi before I met her 5 yrs ago!!!Small world, I meet new people all the time and it funny how they know more then I from her past that she has created a rep for.

So get a life and you will soon get what you are asking for as soon as you up and decide you had enough of the bullshit there and get what you want from her! Just remember you better get your s**t in writing cause you will get screwed in the end with the breeding and board too! And as far as 4 of yous, 2' company and 4 is a crowd, so lets see which 2 will still be in that group in the end. It will start all over again some day.

Permission from the following Hay Suppliers she has tried or has screwed:

Art -St Clair, MI

Ray Britz- St Clair, MI

Bob(The Red Barn)- Marlette,MI

Peters Bros.- Emmett,MI

Ken Kristick- Kimball,MI

Hides- Smith Creek,MI

Armstead Farm, Smith Creek,MI

For one if this really is sandy I did leave you a signed agreement by me that if you show proof by your vet that your mare IS NOT pregnant I would be more then happy to run the money over to you. BUT UNTIL I GET PROOF YOU WONT GET YOUR MONEY! you have my numbers Sandy, and I never said you let him out, I only talked to you about what was fair since you had the choice to abort the baby and I was willing to pay the shot and you decided to keep it! What because I board a stallion I should have to give away breedings I could see if he busted out , but he never did!I never said you or any other person let them out, I was tryin to figure out how it happened if it did myself.And to Andy I dont give a crap what you got to say, I know whats right you have had made statements the first time you left hedis barn AND FOR one I have known hedi or about her and the stuff you said for about two years since you met her, first of all you said you were sick of paying for her 12 horses at the time or however many there were!ANd I can afford to feed my horses I paid for all my feed including hay with check! and I keep all my reciepts, and my boyfriend can attest that I had to bring home my feed because it was disappearing!And for one I dont seem to srr here mentioning that I had to bag all my feed and bring it out to the farm because you d**n well know Andy that you guys ran out on MONDAY AND DIDNT GO TO SANDUSKY UNTIL SAT MORNING!!!! COME ON! As for burning bridges I dont need any of the people you so called claim on, I havent had anything to do with these people in the past years except rocky I bought a gelding from him thats it!, I wasnt having trouble paying ROCKY and he did get paid for when he did ride her! FOR ONE IT WAS YOUR MOUTH HONEY! you went blastic on the poor guy he wasnt even talkin about you he was talkin about people! I was sittin right there you were in the arena!I never used hedis feed as shes claimmin, for one my stud was loosing weight and I had to keep it on him! so I mixed there feed! NOT to mention no ones said about my bridles that were stolen and I found locked in hedis trailer! You are at work all morning so how the hell do you know what time she gets out there! Yeah maybe when you get out there, but she was only out in the barn twice and I was out every morning!!!!!!!!!and as for my horses being at a place with no indoor arena guess again honey my horses are in avoca and the place is HUGE!And yes I can afford the board!And as for jessica dont act like your her friend Andy, I can talk to jessica tomarrow if I wanted to we have always had our differences, but we have always managed to work things out. You took her ex's side cause you were sleepin with him! GIve me a break!O and because of the baby thing. But you know what I dont care if you have known me since I was eight andy there is a reason my brother dumped you and wont talk to you now and I should of listened to him, and about hedi too. These people happen to be nice people, you only know what hedi has told you, just like I did before and yes I got both sides! You yourself was worried about the horses getting feed properly cause you stated as I qoute " Shes, just needs someone to motivate her". Well when you own that many horses how can you not be motivated? I dont know, yes Im done and No I dont need you or anyone else I have my friends old and new, and will continue too! As for Sandy contact me if its really you then we can get things worked out and if your mares not preg you will get paid...

herse the feed store number where she not allowed to get feed.

new haven elevator
810-966-4729

simpson feed 810-367-3510

My name is Sandy Chmiel, I am the Sandy referred to in one of the previous responses. I have a small back yard barn. I placed an add about a year ago asking for help in exchange for board. Julie resoponded to my add and she was welcomed to my farm. She was never prompt on paying her small amount of board but, she was very helpful and always responsible for her days to clean and or feed, so I let the board slide. In about June I noticed that one of my mares had not been in heat for a few months, I had the vet come out and check her.We all wondered how Julies Stallion may have gotten to her(or her to him). The vet stated that she either had an infection or was pregnant. They then drew blood on her to see if she was pregnant. And her blood levels came back elevated (not totally sure yet). I was completely in shock wondering how she could possibly have gotten pregnant, there seemed to be no way that this could have happened. I guess the most upsetting thing was that this mare is a 4 yr.old (untrained) 16.3 Belgian Warmblood, there is NO WAY I would want to breed her with a Quarter horse. And then I was totally shocked when Julie suggested that I may have done this on purpose....I thought that she was a different person than that. To set the record straight my mare is not pregnant, and probably never was. The vet thinks her blood levels were off due to the infection in her uterus. So, I guess the bottom line is that I am still the one out board but, I guess it doesn't matter because with friends like this who needs enemies!!!!

normally do not spend anytime on the Internet, I've never heard of ripoffreport.com or Michigan Horse lovers. But I was asked to readthis nonsense over the weekend. I am a boarder at Heidi's, I have a real horse there and a real mind. I don't have to be told what to think by someone I never met, much less only known for about 3 weeks. The stories are ludicrous and meaningless. Its hard to keep any of this strait. Both these accusers contradict themselves. Contradiction to me means your not even sure of anything you've even said yourself. So how could any reader possible be sure? I was taken by United Kingdom Ranch. Yes,George you were at the right gates. Yes,George is a very real person as well, and a friend of Heidi's. I was also introduced to Michigan Horse Lovers.com IS this site for real? I could not believe what I read here. Some poor horse owner who's animal is off there feed and not acting as usual is asking for advice, and this Tina persons response to this is, and I quote, "with all the New strains of virus's going around you should blablablbla"'WHAT NEW STRAINS OF VIRUS'S?" I think we all would like to know, including the vets and Equine Medical Facilities alike. Next you'll be telling us you have a laboratory in your basement. The other genius on this site's advice was to "check the mucus membranes for abnormalities" WHAT does THAT mean? Julie, you cant possibly be hanging out with these idiots. Fact Einstein, there are no new viruses.,just good old ones. Fact Einstein, YOUR just a jealous,petty,vicious individual. You just met Julie not 3 weeks ago or so and here you both are, so eager to hear each other talk have you considered the fact that Julie could not possibly know any of this first hand. And from what I've read coming out of your head, I would be very skeptical of anything you have or had to say, You and your little group of 20 or so people on Michigan horse lovers are what I would refer to as the vagabonds and lowlifes of the horse society. You can stay right there. Being a know it all is more important than just shutting up when you don't have a clue huh? No matter who gets hurt, those you consider friends on your little site or old enemies. it's all the same to you as long as you can hear yourself talk. Enough of you,you're a waste of time.

Julie, your right, I have known you for a long time. Since you were 8. I just can't figure out what you are thinking. You made comments Heidi's indoor arena was to small, yet your at a place with no arena at all. You said Heidi was stealing your food. I was there during your brief stay, you did indeed have your stud on a pellet only, and you did change the feed. Thus the lock on the feed room. If you could not afford feed for your horses, why didn't you just ask me. You know I would have got you some feed to get you through to your payday. If you were having trouble paying Rocky and Sandy,I know Rocky would have helped you out. You have to stop fabricating these stories and creating controversy and leaving on bad terms I'm sorry, I'm sure you'll be bashing me now because its not what you want to hear but YOU NEED TO GROW UP! Your burning a lot of bridges and I hate to see you with these knuckleheads. You have to start taking some responsibility for yourself or you not going to have ANY friends.


The reason these Bullies are being bullies is because Heidi is the most soft-spoken, nicest person I've ever met and gets hurt very easily. She's giving and funny and is out in the barn everyday and night feeding and doing stalls! And I want to stress I am real and have a horse there, and I have a very good job and can afford to board where ever I wanted to, and I choose to be at Heidi's. The horses are healthy, quiet and well behaved. The barns are new clean solid and safe. The pastures are spacious and clean of dangerous debris. Her family is warm and welcoming and the supplies are at hand and I enjoy being there. I am not so impressionable to take someone's word for anything. I have my own eyes. I have known Heidi for 2 years.

So, I find it courious, Tina, you just meet Julie 3 weeks ago, who has only known Heidi for about 8 Weeks, and yet you have had her tear into Heidi with quite a bit of viciousness, and I think it is a strange thing to be starting a new friendship out as.,you have nothing else to do? You have nothing else in your life? Your just a bully,jealous,spitefull. And don't be concerned with Heidi reading any more of this nonsense, she wont be coming back to this site,she has 4 good friends on hand at all times and a sister who will make sure she wont see any more of your ignorance. Go back to you insignificant existence. Your done getting your little pathetic spot of attention.

Paradise Farm
Boarder

Shame on you Heidi, you should just give up now. You can keep going on and on and on.....But it is not going to get you anywhere. Lets see here is the break down of everything I have first hand delt with you and witness others you have done wrong too. Along with a few other things of info for others reading this site.

1) I created the first report, do to the fact Heidi ripped me off and several others.

2) Yes I own the original DBA names "The Paint Zone"DBA#17331 and "Paradise Farm"DBA#11332 for St Clair Co., MI . Also You need to check your records dip s**t, because since I registered those names before you incorp(which by the way who is your president and secertary)I have FULL rights to them(YOU are the one that will see how this lil business thing works. Also if people look up on the Mich site they will see that Heidi couldn't incorp the 2 names separate to read the way they do on my DBA's.hummm wonder what the IRS has for your info??? I guess I'll find that out soon enough after I give them a call too. How many employees are you claiming to have??? And the reason for purchasing the DBA's is Heidi screwed me on a sale for a TB race horse mare and later claimed it too died along with several other horses from me poisoning them)NOW WHY WOULD I KILL MY INVESTMENT!

3)Heidi first hand knows how to be a breeder, she likes to force breed the mares. I have witnessed it, along with a few others that USED to be boarders or friends of hers. Not to mention why is it that she only has one foal to show off? Well I can answer that one--- IT WAS BORN AND RAISED AT SOMEONE ELSES FARM!

4)The Trucking business she mentions is ran from her computer from her mothers farm/adult foster home, where heidi lives with her family and animals.

5)Wendy needs to post her email or phone number to receive better info and facts, since she was not in this picture previously.Along with getting her name straight too--George,lol, P.S. I DON'T LIVE ON GOODELLS RD, I LIVE ON BEAN RD. And yes there is several farms with gates on them. Probably for the same reasons I put them up here, to keep Heidi and her lil devils from hurting my barn and animals. Also to mention my animals are aloud to run on my fenced and gated land, them gates protect them from the road you moron!

6) I did make some phone calls out of state and to the other places mentioned in these posts, and hummm I think these people are going to have a field day with this site and its managers.

7) Now today it hit me, Heidi burned 9 people in

5 yrs(including some that gave her a 2nd chance)and it is ironic how god took away 9 horses in the same time frame from her.(hint hint, god is telling you to straightin your s**t up girl!)If you would like their names and cities just post a responds asking for them back to this.

8)Now from what I been gathering from the other parties listed above at those other farms, this Julie has owned her stallion since a baby and he is now 9 yrs old. He has never attached anyone,damaged property, and yes he has foals from accidental breedings from the handlers at those boarding places. What farm hasn't, lol, I remember Heidi having lots of those and giving a few shots to make the mares abort. Along with a boarder she used their stallion for a teaser and purposely let him out and tried to charge the owner for vet bills for abort shots that wasnt her fault.

9)Now if you call any boarding place and ask them about how responsiable are they for controlling the horses enviroment as far as stalls,paddocks, and pasture saftey and endangerment of others, what are they going to tell you. I know that it is the boarding places responsiablity to make sure all animals are secured at all times in a safe place on the property, they are responsiable for injuries,sickness, ect. while under the boarding places care.

10)Now why are the kids and other family members being bashed on here? I need to interveen here, since I know first hand that all kids say they are hungry all the time,lol, and as far as other bashing being done, again I and others ( I will list if wanted) have witnessed who was doing all the care of Heidi's son and her hubby and hers daughter. While the hubby was away working for Quik Stop trucking and other jobs, The adult foster guy "Danny" was watching, feeding, changing diapers,ect her kids 90% time. Along with doing horse chore while Heidi stayed in bed sleeping till noon or 1 pm.

11)Tara Hix is in california and traded a pretty bl/wh paint mare for a paint stallion Heidi had once that was one of Diane LuDec horses, He is doing great in california, while the mare Heidi got only got to live a short time in her care. Tara also took care of Dallas( Heidi other stallion) for awhile. ALSO NO ONE EVER STATED HEIDI SENT TARA DEAD HORSES,LOL

12)Diane LuDec is where Heidi got alot of her horses from, she was suposse to sell them on co-signment, but of course a couple of them became really sick and some died while in Heid's care(she says poisoning, well it is funny how everything is poisoned at her place with several wolf hybreds and rotts running around there)

13)There is another farm that did a trade for a AQHA appendix mare for a Hackney gelding(her sister owned till Heidi made her give that to her). Well that mare was near death when the people got her. It seems funny how Heidi told them the mare came to her in that condition from her sister Tami, when really Heidi had that mare in her care for a few months. I seen that mare at her sisters farm just before Heidi got her and she was nice and fat.

14) As far as the feed goes, well I would like Heid to post all the feed stores she is purchasing feed from including the ones from up north, it seems strange that before she had everyone else getting it for her do to the fact she had wrote bad checks or had credit the feed and wasnt able to pay for it for long periods of time in the local area. Along with several hay sellers she did the same too. ( can post there names and cities also)

15) Another thing, My hubby and I didnt build our barns with blood money, we have done all of it by hard working labor. It takes several years to get what one wants. When it is all done at least we can sit back and say thank you for the compliments and know that we put our heart into building it. (By the way my paddocks that are in the front of the farm are all dirt no grass for a reason. And I will not fork anymore funds into seeding them again. They all will be sand paddocks for turn out later on, and the grasing will continue in the back half of the famr land along with the addition acre we bought adjoining our farm that is land locked)

16)Did any one ever wonder why Heidi tries so hard to make new friends and bash her old ones, well think about it, it is to keep the new ones from encountering the old ones and finding out the truths about her!

17)You know I bet if you called Bob( retired head officer) or Lyle( new head officer) at St. Clair Co. Animal Control, you might find some interesting info about Heidi farm too from over the years.

18)That colt that just died too......well you need to tell your stories straight, and you better not screw the vet either like you did other ones in the past. Oh YES everyone, Heidi couldn't use any other vet when we were involved with her, so we brought our vet into her life. That is another one as a witness to things.

19)I do have saved on my computer and can email anyone a old part of Heidi's aol site that has photos and states under them about the horses being no longer alive do to accidental deaths.

20)It is weird to if you look at the dates and times these posts are done on this site they are done right after one another, humm is this cause she can only make one up at a time from her computer and just keep signing them by other people, well we will soon find out when i get the return call from Tara Hix @ Blacktie Paints in California, won't we.

As far as Wendy and George, well you said I quote "Now I'm not sure what makes you think I'm "city folk, I have been in this area my whole life.", Well what area are you talking about? Cause I live several miles from Heidi! I live almost by the boarder of another county!

21)Well I don't need to defend myself really any further, cause god knows who is telling the truth and who is not, And now that it was brought to my attention today, I think I am going to have my stallion that died right after ending my friendship with Heidi autopsied for antifreeze poisoning. Since she keeps claiming that is what killed her horses and knows so much about using it to do it. So those of you reading these posts take it for what you want, there is way to many nice horses out there to be greatful for and to luv to be sitting here wasting anymore time playing these kid games with Heidi,Wendy, and oops can't forget George,lol

Signed: Tina Hyslop and all the others that have been drug thru the dirt at the Saller/Gillespie Farm.

well for one you werent there when he wasnt riding my horse which was for the past four weeks and HE GOT PAID FOR, so for one minute do you think im going to pay for something he wasnt doing NO!! OOO and Im not the only one there were MANY that ROCKY was PAID to RIDE and DIDNT!!! But yet again you wouldnt know about that because yet again it has nothing to do with you! MY stud maybe short 15hds, maybe short to you, but atleast mine dont go on rides and buck the rider off and start mounting every mare around! and rear everytime someone goes to let him out and as for the feeding NO YOU DIDNT the first week I was there I got there at 12pm and you started getting them grain I asked o you didnt feed yet? YOU SAID NO. O and I dont have anything to Hide hedi IM NOT THE ONE KICKED OFF OF MICHIGANHORSE LOVERS CAUSE YOU CAUSED so much trouble there.And if anyone wants to know about you alls they have to do is go there and ask ANY member, and there is a wholllllllllllleee lotta them. I choose to have mine open to those I invite and you just happen to be the one that was banned.And as for my kid if anyones has seen her I dont think she is underfed lol I feed my kid all the time on TIME! I dont let mine play in the road! TO lazy to come outside just sit infront of the window and watch.As far as getting info from andy I dont care, Shes gonna stick where ever her horse is at.bye until you think you can rub me in the dirt again hahaha j

Well whatever hedi as I remember correctly I was there the day ANDY flew off the handle at ROCKY PETTIT and wouldnt stop yelling at him for something that had nothing to do with all the four other people there including me, she just kept eggin him on and on! He blew up on her and yelled at all of us to get our horses out!

wellyou know what you only have to tell me once. Im not givin him 450. a month to listen to that crap when my horse is there to get trained.. REMEMBER YOU were not there Andy and I were. ANd yes rocky felt bad and didnt want her to go, but andy didnt want to stay either, just like right out of her mouth if her horse loses an ounce of weight at your place like the last time then shes outta there! O and before I forget its not SANDY VERDEL, thats NOT even close to her name. And yes I did leave, but she also has a free baby to replace the board!

Im not as ignorant as you using peoples names who dont even know you!For one simple fact I know jessica dont even like you! As I recall andy and rocky both came over your place few months before she came back and said that the horses looked bad and the farm was a freakin mess. ANd you can thank andy for cleaning your arena!And you know what Andy knows who I grew up takin lessons from , working for and even riding, some horses for people Rocky himself stated that I did a very good job with the zippo aftershock filly I BROKE OUT!! And as for my child, she didnt like to have to come in and clean your kids room everyday. She has enough friends dont you worry about that and MY MOTHER dont have to pay for anything for me! taylor did get a bike on her BIRTHDAY THAT I PAID FOR!!!!and she got stuff for horses. SO dont be makin claims you cant back up if you would like to see my reciept you know where I live not only that I had 18 people here that would back me up in a minute cause they were at the party!MY family dont have to pay or take care of me like yours does to you! And I dont have to burn barns down to collect insurance money either. SO blah blah blah like I said before get a life keep makin claims I dont care, and andy knows you ran out of grain on monday night and you guys didnt get ANY until SATURDAY!!!! Cause you all went to sandusky! ITs funny both my grain containers on tuesday where a little over half full by wednesday they only had 1/4 of grain left in both, two horses cant eat that much in 24 hours,ANd thats why I took MY GRAIN HOME and bagged it individually for my horses and the only thing in there was sweetfeed and pellets that I BOUGHT! but you know what Im glad I got my horses out of there, and the grain hey its replaceable! Post away honey I dont care lol, you make claims that I said IM some big trainer, and I never said that, alls I said is that I work horses for people when they need help! and yes I did work under some pretty well known people in st clair county. from the time I started to learn until now. I dont have to prove anything to you or andy or whoever else hedi. O by the way that farm on goodles road you showed me ISNT UNITED KINDOM RANCH! They didnt even have horses at whosever farm you said that was, cause I have been to tinas, and its not a bad place hedi your mare motel isnt any better.And from what I see tina is a little bit healthier then you! So I wouldnt be jealous of her, its ok. BUt im done now and dont need to bash, I got my point across, yeah it makes me mad , but you know what its called LET IT GO... get over it, move on! I have more important things to do. JULIE one who dont hide behind fake names.

Do some research before you claim to know what is true. Here is my Incorporated name--Paradise Farm The Paint Zone INC. Here is my ID#32957C here is the goverment web site to check it out michigan.gov And as far as talking to my other boarder where do you think I know this stuff from? ANd you yourself told me about cancelling the checks, We don't care about what you did pay Rocky but what about the cancelled checks HE HAS? And by the way thank you for admitting you been to 5 barns in a year(Jessies-Sandys-Rockys-Mine-and now where your at)
Here again is the links to my sites. I would post AEX and United Kingdom Ranch but they have closed them to the public??? What do you have to hide?

http://hometown.aol.com/thepaintzoneinc1/page1.
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http://groups.msn.com/paradisepaints/_whatsnew/
msnw

And to Captin TEXINO go and read the posts you will see who uses proper grammer and punctuation. I am only defending my self-farm-children and family. If you were being attacked would you not? I do agree this is (STUPID) And a nonsense but these people are nothing but ignorant bullies who get off on hurtting others.

And Julie the moment you posted on a public internet site you have made it EVERYONES business.
Well I was done with you the moment you tried to say (You let my stud lose) come on.. Why would I do that with my mares out in a field? I have my own stallion and dont breed to small horse's.

Oh and by the way why do you feel so compelled to attack my kids? I on many occasions fed your daughter LUNCH AND DINNER because you forgot. And Taylor would come in the house with my kids and Tell us she is hungry?? I was never mean or nasty to you or Taylor. I never told you had to feed your horses in the A.M. you started doing the things around here on your own. I thanked you everythime you did anything.. I run a Trucking Company and I am in the office from 8 to 5. You know this. The horse's where always fed before then. I felt sorry for you (mistake) because you were broke and could not afford full board. So being a nice person I said ok, you can board 2 horses here for $175.00 a month and pay when you can with in the month, you get your own feeds you agreed to this. Said it was great. Also let you stay here most of August for free (you used my Hay) But lets not post anything nice about Heidi Saller.. NO.. And please from now on if you are going to use my name in these so called posts spell it right.

Maybe you should think about the foal that was lost due to so called neglect on Jessica's part and how you feel about that. Then maybe you can feel some little bit of the pain that has been caused to me and my family. Come on Julie you have no idea what has happend here in the past. Oh but thats right you now have Tina Hyslop coaching you throuh this.. Thats ok you deserve each other.

I have not used any false names on here. Every post I write has my name on it.

Ok this is Captain Texino here on an emergency intervention between these two ladies. Now listen here Texino (Me) is former high $ winner and top 1/4 horse breeder. Now even though Quarter Horse stuff is decidedly low rent compared to thoroughbreds, it is not as trashy as these persons would cause you to infer from reading their posts.

We are in a tough spot here because it is nearly impossible to understand what is going on. Now here is the deal, you ladies go over to the adult education facility in your county.

If you have any sort of certificate such as a HS diploma or other papers, please turn them in and then take and pass the GED course.

Once you have done all this, please, each write an 800 word essay explaining her point of view. When you accomplish this task, perhaps we can come to some conclusion in regard to what this is in aid of.

Thank you, Horse Master Texino

Suppose that she has proof to back this up???NO she dont for one HEDI I have CASHED CHECKS by the trainer so I didnt stiff him for NOTHING and where did you get 2,000 from hello my mare was only there for a little over 60 days so that dont even come to 2,000 he was paid for what she was trained for and it wasn't my dealing with him for KINCKING EVERYONE OUT , why dont you ask your other boarder why he went off im sure she knows, because it was her who got into the arguement with him I had NOTTA to do with it, I seen the situation what it was for he went off on her took it out on everyone who was there, and I even said to your other boarded hey if it wasnt you it would be someone else dont worry about it!!.!!! WHAT DO YOU HAVE???hmmm NOTHING HELLO!!! I was paid up for the services at the last farm I was at, yes she does have a breed mare which I didnot give her permission for , BUT For whatever reason you think you have any buisness knowing what the owner and I worked out has nothing to do with you!, and what went on with jessicas was not board owed honey!I didnt even talk to you hardly or knew what kind of a SO called buisness owner you really are. FOR ONE I WORKED THERE! and didnt pay for board I worked it off, I left there , because I moved further out HELLO!!! UNLIKE YOU I work full time, kid full time, and school full time, so I didnt have time to work there anymore!SO you dont know about where I boarded and what I paid I have proof its called yet again cashed checks and for those who want to see them I would be more then happy to show you them hey email me levischic28@hotmail.com.. SO come off your high horse honey you dont know anything you have NO PROOF, what you think dont matter and im DONE WITH YOU and PEOPLE like you. I got my point across thats all I need, if your so grown up then why do you feel that you have to keep posting???? Oh and for one THING I never said I OWNED A farm on MY SITE, I can name MY SITE anything I want! oh and you dont own rights to your names if you look up on google there are a whole slew of companies that use THE PAINT ZONE or PARADISE PAINTS --- and they dont have horses so why dont you so called sue them! cause you cant!!!Whatever im done with you and anyone associated with you, your trouble, and a headache, say what you want your NOT a REPUTABLE BREEDER! and anything you say wont matter and you know what Im not and I dont claim to be what you try to be, so this wont matter to others either and it never will ... get a life! cause we all know you need one!!!!! .................From JULIE I dont have to hide behind false Names!

I know for a fact new "friend of julies", she will indeed keep her end of the bargain, for about 3 weeks or so. And she was indeed feeding heidi's mix, you werent here, you dont know, but this is just a word of warning "new friend of julies", have you considered why she suddenly is having to make new friends? She has burned every bridge with every friend she has had since she was young, not one of them will help her anymore, she has to seek new people out of the want ads that need help. And she has indeed been to five barns. 1. Jessica franklins, Shenandoha Farms, left because (they bred a mare to her stud)left oct or nov 2002 2. Sandy verdell (whom got stiffed 2 months board, of course because "she bred her stud to one her mares" 3. Rocky Pettit, Pettit performance Horses. where she did not leave with someone who got kicked out, he wanted her out of his barn so bad, the person who left only did so to get her out of his barn. the person who left with her could go back to Pettit Performance horses tommorow, but look him up and give him a call, he's on meskil rd, columbus twp..I'm sure he'll give you some background on "your new friend", look them all up for that matter 4. Heidi Saller Paraidise Farms, and now you which brings us to oct 2003. Good luck with your new "friend" And the coming babis your going to have on the gound next spring. Also, a first place in the show ring usually means something if there would of been OTHER horses in the class..why dont you check this person performance record with aq, usually you get points for 1st places...not that it makes a horse, but your being mis-led from the get-go check it out. I dont know you and will not aknowledge any of this nonsense again. But your being mis-led, and I'm quite confident, when YOU remove her from YOUR barn, because she tends to forget who owns the places she roams to, we could probably conduct oursleves like adults and be aquainted properly.

I know for a fact new "friend of julies", she will indeed keep her end of the bargain, for about 3 weeks or so. And she was indeed feeding heidi's mix, you werent here, you dont know, but this is just a word of warning "new friend of julies", have you considered why she suddenly is having to make new friends? She has burned every bridge with every friend she has had since she was young, not one of them will help her anymore, she has to seek new people out of the want ads that need help. And she has indeed been to five barns. 1. Jessica franklins, Shenandoha Farms, left because (they bred a mare to her stud)left oct or nov 2002 2. Sandy verdell (whom got stiffed 2 months board, of course because "she bred her stud to one her mares" 3. Rocky Pettit, Pettit performance Horses. where she did not leave with someone who got kicked out, he wanted her out of his barn so bad, the person who left only did so to get her out of his barn. the person who left with her could go back to Pettit Performance horses tommorow, but look him up and give him a call, he's on meskil rd, columbus twp..I'm sure he'll give you some background on "your new friend", look them all up for that matter 4. Heidi Saller Paraidise Farms, and now you which brings us to oct 2003. Good luck with your new "friend" And the coming babis your going to have on the gound next spring. Also, a first place in the show ring usually means something if there would of been OTHER horses in the class..why dont you check this person performance record with aq, usually you get points for 1st places...not that it makes a horse, but your being mis-led from the get-go check it out. I dont know you and will not aknowledge any of this nonsense again. But your being mis-led, and I'm quite confident, when YOU remove her from YOUR barn, because she tends to forget who owns the places she roams to, we could probably conduct oursleves like adults and be aquainted properly.

I know for a fact new "friend of julies", she will indeed keep her end of the bargain, for about 3 weeks or so. And she was indeed feeding heidi's mix, you werent here, you dont know, but this is just a word of warning "new friend of julies", have you considered why she suddenly is having to make new friends? She has burned every bridge with every friend she has had since she was young, not one of them will help her anymore, she has to seek new people out of the want ads that need help. And she has indeed been to five barns. 1. Jessica franklins, Shenandoha Farms, left because (they bred a mare to her stud)left oct or nov 2002 2. Sandy verdell (whom got stiffed 2 months board, of course because "she bred her stud to one her mares" 3. Rocky Pettit, Pettit performance Horses. where she did not leave with someone who got kicked out, he wanted her out of his barn so bad, the person who left only did so to get her out of his barn. the person who left with her could go back to Pettit Performance horses tommorow, but look him up and give him a call, he's on meskil rd, columbus twp..I'm sure he'll give you some background on "your new friend", look them all up for that matter 4. Heidi Saller Paraidise Farms, and now you which brings us to oct 2003. Good luck with your new "friend" And the coming babis your going to have on the gound next spring. Also, a first place in the show ring usually means something if there would of been OTHER horses in the class..why dont you check this person performance record with aq, usually you get points for 1st places...not that it makes a horse, but your being mis-led from the get-go check it out. I dont know you and will not aknowledge any of this nonsense again. But your being mis-led, and I'm quite confident, when YOU remove her from YOUR barn, because she tends to forget who owns the places she roams to, we could probably conduct oursleves like adults and be aquainted properly.

I know for a fact new "friend of julies", she will indeed keep her end of the bargain, for about 3 weeks or so. And she was indeed feeding heidi's mix, you werent here, you dont know, but this is just a word of warning "new friend of julies", have you considered why she suddenly is having to make new friends? She has burned every bridge with every friend she has had since she was young, not one of them will help her anymore, she has to seek new people out of the want ads that need help. And she has indeed been to five barns. 1. Jessica franklins, Shenandoha Farms, left because (they bred a mare to her stud)left oct or nov 2002 2. Sandy verdell (whom got stiffed 2 months board, of course because "she bred her stud to one her mares" 3. Rocky Pettit, Pettit performance Horses. where she did not leave with someone who got kicked out, he wanted her out of his barn so bad, the person who left only did so to get her out of his barn. the person who left with her could go back to Pettit Performance horses tommorow, but look him up and give him a call, he's on meskil rd, columbus twp..I'm sure he'll give you some background on "your new friend", look them all up for that matter 4. Heidi Saller Paraidise Farms, and now you which brings us to oct 2003. Good luck with your new "friend" And the coming babis your going to have on the gound next spring. Also, a first place in the show ring usually means something if there would of been OTHER horses in the class..why dont you check this person performance record with aq, usually you get points for 1st places...not that it makes a horse, but your being mis-led from the get-go check it out. I dont know you and will not aknowledge any of this nonsense again. But your being mis-led, and I'm quite confident, when YOU remove her from YOUR barn, because she tends to forget who owns the places she roams to, we could probably conduct oursleves like adults and be aquainted properly.

You are so funny "friend of Julies" if you believe you are telling the truth why do you use your own name??? I was NEVER out of feed for my horses more than a few hours. I had 100 pound bags of OATS at my friends house that I went picked up and brought home THAT NIGHT. SO if we are trying to state facts LETS KEEP TO THEM! I could care less what Julie or anyone else does, I personally did not think Julie was the type of person she has turned out to be. As for my KIDS they are VERY well taken care of by ME! Yes my sister is here she is employeed REMEMBER I HAVE A REAL BUSINESS!And it does not have any relation to horse's, so run your mouths and bash me I no longer care. And Julie why dont you name the big trainners you have worked for? Remember I have a friend that KNOWS you and has for a long time. We both would love to know these people and if you are even still allowed to go tothe farm.alsoMiss Julie seems so funny to me that not more than 3eeksago I took you past UNITED KINGDOM RANCH and you said and I quote "What a SH*T hole" And when you seen the photos of her horses on the UNTIED KINGDOM RANCH web pages you said she should not be alowed to have animals. And the one foal looks starved, oh do I also remember being told right from you the day you purchased a Longe line from TINA hySLOP and I quote again "That B*TCH is nasty! Her teeth are rotted out of her head and look like LITTLE BLACK TOOTH PICKS" But now you all are buddies how ironic!!LOL!!And to address another thing Julie I never said anything to you about hurtting UNITED KINGDOM RANCHES HORSES! I believe you told me if it had happened to you you would have your HUNTER boyfriend shot everything on her property! The only thing I ever said isand I quote "you know that if i had ever sunk down to the level they are on and did something like that I would have gotten caught, But it is not the animals fault and I could not do unthinkable things to them. So again KEEP TO THE FACTS.I know wish I would have listened to Matt and Andy and my mother and not let you come here. But I felt sorry for you and your "they bred my stallion" BS. I feel really sorry for Taylor she gets attached to people or kids then you do something get kicked or leave on bad terms and the little girl loses friends. Its not right. And if you want to attack me about my kids I have to say JULIE why dont you come down off your HIGH horse and let taylor see her father and grandparents.? And why didnt you get her a bike like you mother gave you the money to get for her? Oh thats right instead of a 9 yr old having a bike you decided she would much more enjoy a Zebra sleezy and tail bag for YOUR HORSE. And friend of JULIES do you even know me or are you writting what you are told?LOL

Well I would just like to comments to hedi's last report JUlIE"S horses have NOT been to five different farms if you look on hedis web page you will see she contradicted herself on there she said to six different farms so theres a lie.

Another thing I have proof that she was only at two barns in the past three years n a half years,and both of them for a year to a year and a half at a time hello!!! And if she did move her horses what is the big deal??? She wants her horses takin care of a certain way and they werent. The last move didnt even have to do with the care, the trainer kicked everyone out because of an other boarder!

And another thing I can attest that her stallion does have as of two weeks ago three bookings fully paid for and contracts to back them up why because they are to one of my mares and two others of a friend. Julie did not switch his feed to hedis I feed her stallion every morning and he gets purina pellets and with a half a cup of sweetfeed that she was haulin in zip lock baggies to hedi's bc hedi was using her stuff when she would be out of grain for five days at a time! Hedi took advantage of julie and any other boarders who will or are there, they pay for everything, and they do ALL the work. As for growing up, this is a women who has to have her SISTER and MOTHER take care of her kids, and her animals!!! IT only takes 20minutes to feed that tiny barn!!

NOt only this women will change her ID on emails so she can start fights with other people on another horse web site, she used a name Kari the last time. GIve me a break lady you are the one that needs to grow up when people have to change there nextel numbers, and you go undercover trying to get things started up. We all have lifes and they dont center around HEDI SALLER. I tell you what I honestly think she should grow up WITH TWO KIDS AND ALL, but she has someone else to take care of them.GET OVER IT HEDI YOU HAVE ENEMIES you burned people , but atleast julie got out before her horses got hurt!Her horses are now at a prestige barn, that the care is excellent, and it maybe more, but just like she said on her web page you get what you pay for! you pay for crap you get crap , you pay for excellence you get excellence!.....a friend REAL Friend of Julie's

810-367-8488 please feel free to call me. I will answer any questions and show my facility. I am tired of the back and forth stuff. I myself have a life and again NO TIME FOR KIDDY GAMES. And you call yoursevles Adults. Come on.. I know no one is perfect in this world and people make mistakes. And mine was again getting involved with someone I really did not know by helping her out of a barn where she claims "they bred my stallion without permission It happened again" See this is a repeated excuse used to move horses when board is due and she does not want to pay it. I am personally very sorry for helping her move her stallion from the barn he was at "while the farm owner was not home" and the APHA trainner that her mare was at she also stiffed him over $2000.00 by cancelling payments on checks wrote to him and causing CHAOS and running 2 of his paying boarders out, that could no longer deal with the constent gripping bashing and fighting on her part. Also the barn she was at previous Shenndoha she again accused the owners of "breeding-their mares" after she was told he again broke down another gate down and got lose. Also I would like to add AEX Farms or the owner of a farm that does not exsit, was so ignorant they believed WEST NILE was a virus that a horse carried for life and compared it to AIDS which brought about the death of a beautiful holsteiner pony by way of conviencing the owner that it needed to be shot in the head and the people shot it in the head without the vet even looking at it.!!!!!!BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!

In response to this post, I would just like to comment that these statements are coming from an individual who has moved her animals five times in the past year. Every farm she has been to has been accused of letting her stud out and trying to breed there mares. The fact of the matter is, nobody wants to bred to this persons stallion. As for the "use of her feed" issues, The Paint Zone was forced to put a lock on there fed room when the induvidual in question drastically changed her horses feeding program to exactly the same type of feed The Paint Zone uses and it began to mysteriously disappear, interestingly enough, after the writer THEMSELVES said there stallion COULD NOT be on seetfeed due to tying-up. Strange, she put him on it??????(also with a little calfmanna mixed in)????for an animal who's pron to tie-up??? And as far and the 9 deaths, the individual, again, says themselves in there post they were only there 8 weeks....Where'd she get this information. Second hand is my guess.