PATTYS PUPPY LOVE FARM PATTY'S PUPPY FARM HAS GENETIC DEFECTIVE PUPPIES Julian North Carolina

Randomly stumbled upon this and wanted to give my two cents.  

I bought a corgi puppy (his name is Echo) from Patty's two years ago and it was a great experience all around. I thought the entire place was great, extremely well maintained and clean.  I've dealt with many breeders/kennels over the years and I have to say this was the best experience I've ever had.  Patty was nothing but loving and inviting. My corgi Echo is as healthy as can be and and is one of the smartest dogs I've ever owned.  Both vets I've taken him to in North Carolina and Los Angeles have said he's one of the best examples of a corgi they've ever seen.  

Randomly stumbled upon this and wanted to give my two cents.  

I bought a corgi puppy (his name is Echo) from Patty's two years ago and it was a great experience all around. I thought the entire place was great, extremely well maintained and clean.  I've dealt with many breeders/kennels over the years and I have to say this was the best experience I've ever had.  Patty was nothing but loving and inviting. My corgi Echo is as healthy as can be and and is one of the smartest dogs I've ever owned.  Both vets I've taken him to in North Carolina and Los Angeles have said he's one of the best examples of a corgi they've ever seen.  

Have nothing to gain by this and have zero affiliation with either party.

1. Breeds 4 different purebred breeds and one designer mutt. Four breeds is more than the AVERAGE good breed breeds and none breed cross breeds that don't serve a real purpose. doodles don't do anything a purebred low dander breed can't do better and with more consistency

2. Doesn't do the FULL battery of health clearances on breeding stock and CERF(which is YEARLY) is out of date on the few I checked on

3. Doesn't work doesn't show. Breeding do nothing pets(even if they may be healthy) does not make someone a good breeder

4. Puppies avail all the time. Short of large scale breeders of WORKING dogs its generally a sign of QUANTITY over QUALITY.

5. Charges double for breeding rights. A pup either has the potential to be good in the ring/field and a solid producer or it doesn't. Charging more for full registration doesn't make it so. its also again AKC regs to do so.

6. No listed pedigrees or titles(if they even exist)

There is not one single thing that is impressive about this breeder based on their website or instills any shred of confidence in the quality of pups they are producing.

We got our 1 yr old weim there and it was a great experience. The dog is beyond fantastic. We even recommended her (patty) to really good friends who are getting a puppy soon.

This is a professional, responsible outfit and the evidence above tells me that she will communicate if you have a problem. What more could you want?

I was merely trying to google Patty's Puppy Love Farm to check out her latest pictures of labradoodles when I saw "pattys puppy love farm complaint" as one of the google suggestions when typing the search.  I couldn't believe it.  Curious, I clicked it and was directed to this site only to read the complaint from Steve.  Granted, I wasn't involved in the situation so I can only read what both sides have been saying, but the negative review of her business was what inspired me to create an account and offer my rebuttal in her defense.

I am a customer of Patty's Puppy Love Farm, and like so many others, I could not have picked a better place to find our beautiful dog Oakley.  Being in Maryland, I'm exposed to a chain of Labradoodle breeders that fixes their prices--$2400--non negotiable.  This chain extends from Maryland to Pennsylvania and to Virginia.  As if the price hike wasn't bad enough, we had to deal with other issues as well.  Out of the 4-6 breeders we contacted in this chain, only one agreed to sell to us.  Why?  Everyone else said because both my wife and I were full time workers, they didn't want to sell to us.  The arrogance of these breeders astounded me--as if only people who work from home or have someone at home at all times deserves their dogs.  I understand the desire to place their dogs into homes that will maximize love and attention the most.  However, the Maryland of today--specifically housing prices--requires most households to have two people working to make ends meet.  Eight years ago, this wasn't the case.  So to exclude my business on something I cannot help, I was mad.

Then we discovered Patty's Puppy Love Farm.  We arrived merely to look.  My wife, who never had a dog growing up and was very cautious about owning one, instantly saw the tiny light brown and cute Labradoodle hiding from us when we walked in.  She wanted a dog that was a little more independent and this dog seemed to be the one.  We brought him home and, to quote my wife, "I never imagined a dog could impact me in such a positive way so fast".  Instantly, he became a loving member of our home and we gave him every ounce of love and attention we had.  Coincidentally enough, my wife now works from home and can give him more love and attention--a $2400 loss to those arrogant breeders who thought we didn't deserve a dog.

So now comes the praise to Patty and her business.  First, it was extremely evident that she cares for every one of her dogs and puppies at her farm.  Dogs flocked to her.  She held them like each one of them was her own new puppy.  Second, she showed us Oakley's parents.  It was very reassuring to see the mom and dad and get a good idea of what Oakley will look like when he's older--and if there were any obvious problems with the parents, which there were none.  Third, she was extremely accommodating to us, as we were on the way to visit my parents in Charlotte and couldn't take Oakley with us (since he was so young and not potty trained). Patty agreed to hold him for the weekend and allow us to pick him up on the way back.  Fourth, being new to what all we needed to buy, Patty was on the other line answering questions while I stood in PetSmart, determining what "the best..." product to buy, what was necessary and what wasn't necessary.  And when we were ready to pick Oakley up on our way back home, Patty clearly explained everything to us, including *the unlikely event* something bad happened to Oakley that clearly was a genetics issue.  We were to contact her immediately if something like that occurred, which--nothing in the slightest did occur.  Oakley is a healthy labradoodle who attracts far more comments on our facebook pages than any picture of me or my wife.  Some of those literally hundreds of comments of Oakley's pictures comes from Patty, who likes to keep contact about how her puppies are doing in their new homes, if you're willing.

So again, while I can't fully understand someone else's complaint with Patty's Puppy Love Farm, I can full-heartedly defend her business and say, like so many others on her testimonial pages, her business has effected the lives of me and my wife in such a great and positive way.  Purchasing any dog anywhere can be a risk, especially pet stores and dog shelters, but Patty and her business helps ensure that the dog you're purchasing came from good, healthy parents, and was cared for until someone came to take him/her home.  I cannot recommend her business enough for those looking for a good dog.

If this report is true as you say........ Then call me or send me an email, tell me at least who the parents are to this puppy your talking about. You say--you want to warn others about your experience and problems, BUT if you care that much then why not tell the breeder who the parents are so it WILL NOT happen again. The only way we can know if there is a genetic problem is if a customer tells us. You are not telling me anything to help. THAT IS IGNORANT on your part!!!!!!!!

I have went through All of my AKC Litter Records for the last 7 yrs. I have a Steve in S.C (who bought 2 girls in 2004), I have a Steve in Southern Pines who bought Bruiser in 2006), I have a Steve in Huntersville (who has bought 2 weims in 2006 - I just talked to him yesterday-they are great), I have a Steven in Greenville who has a puppy form 2008. I may not be able to find you but you know my number and you could contact me. Not for yourself but for the puppies that you seem to be so concerned about. If you have a puppy with a genetic defect then there is nothing for me to lie about to start with. You have vet records then give this information to me. It is your job to inform me of what is going on with your dog.

As for the customer that purchased a defective lab you stated - There is no eye problems from Lily and Cooper - I did my home work and had them tested again!!!! I also have papers to prove that. And I will show them to any body who comes out here. I have posted their CERF numbers on the web sites and this ripoffreport. Look it up............ Like this report no one has come forward to show me any vet records or even to contact me in person. But I did have my dogs tested again. What else should I do????? They didn't even give me a name to look up on this one. And you wonder why I think these ripoffreports are coming from the same place!

Well any time you want to contact me then you know where I'm at! I really would like to know who the parents are. I'm not a mind reader. At least I wouldn't breed them again.

Just for your information - How do you know for sure that a breeder wouldn't give a refund if the puppy has a genetic defect?

Patty

Just to clarify a few things, this report is very true and for you to suggest that this is a false report or that someone else wrote it is just plain ignorant. Steve and I have plenty to do, like trying to save our sick Weimaraner you sold us. We have never led you to believe we were your friends. WOW!! and for you to say something about the phrase Steve used, hind site is 20/20 for your imformation is a famous phrase that has been used for many years. Who are you to try and give advice on searching for a breeder, you are the last person that should be giving advice. I do admit we should have researched other breeders, you were the first breeder we contacted, we should have checked you out further, most likely we would have found this site and saved our selfs alot of heart ache. No one said you were a number one kennel, it's apparent that you are not. Wish you had of been. A clean place and a cute puppy does not mean you have healthy puppies, all puppies are cute. Fact of the matter is our puppy you sold us is not healthy, also from reading other reports ours is not the only puppy you have sold with problems, oh I guess you are going to imply they are also false and blame someone else for posting them, how stupid do you think people are? It's a fact stated in your contract that you do not pay for Veterinarian bills and you do not give a cash refund. Sure you will take the puppy back, but you do not give a cash refund, why would we want to give you our puppy and let you keep our money? Don't think so and since we do not want to take the chance of recieving another defective puppy from you, as Steve stated we are screwed.

We will not call you and listen to any of your lies. Steve and I were trying to research to see if anyone else had bought a puppy from you with problems, when we ran across this site we just wanted to warn others about our experience, just like the customer that purchased a defective Lab from you. We do not plan to visit this site again because it makes us sick to read your lies and to here about other peoples puppies that are suffering due to your negligence.

First of all your letter is a little confusing--You said you signed a contract that clearly states they pay no veterinarian bills, SHE WILL NOT TAKE THE PUPPY BACK, or give you a cash refund........ RIGHT!!!!

Then you say the contract reads you will have to bring the puppy back and wait on another puppy to be available. WHICH IS IT?????? No returns on puppies or they will replace a puppy.. See the fact is if you had my contract you wouldn't be so confused. It says (I will take a puppy back at any age, for any reason what so ever, no matter what). All breeder contracts that I've ever seen says no cash refunds. But in reality when it comes right down to it that is up to the breeder at the time a problem presents itself. How can they fix it if they don't know about it? I have bought puppies from veterinarians that only give a 3 day health guarantee on puppies with nothing else implied..... They are vets and I just have to trust that they know what their doing.

As far as I'm concerned if you have a problem with your puppy then I have a problem and would like to here about it from your mouth. This is not only your puppy that is involved, if there is a genetic defect you should tell the breeder. How are they to know what is going on unless you tell them. It's not only about you, it's about future litters that will be born because the breeder doesn't know.

I'm not sure if this complaint is true or false but I do know what my contract says - which is nothing like other breeder contracts. I will replace a puppy if you have a problem, I will take a puppy back at any time during his or her life time.

Now on another note - When searching for breeders to purchase your puppy from I would suggest that you put all their names in this web site. Check out all reports and figure out for yourself how true or not ture you think they may be. Check out their web sites, Can you talk to the past customers or at least email them? Can you have a vet reference? Can you see the parents on site and how they live? Can you see the entire litter? Do you get to pick out your puppy? There are lots of breeders in this world and it's up to you to go see for yourself what they have.

Like I said before nothing in the world is 100% guaranteed but you won't find a puppy raised any better or loved any more than right here. I answer all my phone calls myslef. I don't get on the phone and claim to be the secretary or office manager. I don't claim to be a 5 star rated kennel, I don't call myself North Carolina's #1 Kennel. (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN)......... But it sure is nice when people come out here and are amazed with our place and how beautiful the babies are. Or how clean it is and that they have talked to our vets office before coming.

I hope that if your puppy problem is true that you do call or email me so I know which parents and what the problem was. If it is indeed a false report then I know where it came from.... And as I'm sure you will write back (I'm running from the truth) as you did on the last report filed. I can't figure it out - (Why does it make some people feel so good to make others look so bad?). Don't be so competive - Life is to short. I tell people to go see other breeders also. Then decide what you want to do. I don't tell them what I REALLY know about some other breeders. That would be really BAD now wouldn't it???????? The hind site is 20/20 really topped it off for me. Your famous words Friend...... Thank you soooo much

First of all your letter is a little confusing--You said you signed a contract that clearly states they pay no veterinarian bills, SHE WILL NOT TAKE THE PUPPY BACK, or give you a cash refund........ RIGHT!!!!

Then you say the contract reads you will have to bring the puppy back and wait on another puppy to be available. WHICH IS IT?????? No returns on puppies or they will replace a puppy.. See the fact is if you had my contract you wouldn't be so confused. It says (I will take a puppy back at any age, for any reason what so ever, no matter what). All breeder contracts that I've ever seen says no cash refunds. But in reality when it comes right down to it that is up to the breeder at the time a problem presents itself. How can they fix it if they don't know about it? I have bought puppies from veterinarians that only give a 3 day health guarantee on puppies with nothing else implied..... They are vets and I just have to trust that they know what their doing.

As far as I'm concerned if you have a problem with your puppy then I have a problem and would like to here about it from your mouth. This is not only your puppy that is involved, if there is a genetic defect you should tell the breeder. How are they to know what is going on unless you tell them. It's not only about you, it's about future litters that will be born because the breeder doesn't know.

I'm not sure if this complaint is true or false but I do know what my contract says - which is nothing like other breeder contracts. I will replace a puppy if you have a problem, I will take a puppy back at any time during his or her life time.

Now on another note - When searching for breeders to purchase your puppy from I would suggest that you put all their names in this web site. Check out all reports and figure out for yourself how true or not ture you think they may be. Check out their web sites, Can you talk to the past customers or at least email them? Can you have a vet reference? Can you see the parents on site and how they live? Can you see the entire litter? Do you get to pick out your puppy? There are lots of breeders in this world and it's up to you to go see for yourself what they have.

Like I said before nothing in the world is 100% guaranteed but you won't find a puppy raised any better or loved any more than right here. I answer all my phone calls myslef. I don't get on the phone and claim to be the secretary or office manager. I don't claim to be a 5 star rated kennel, I don't call myself North Carolina's #1 Kennel. (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN)......... But it sure is nice when people come out here and are amazed with our place and how beautiful the babies are. Or how clean it is and that they have talked to our vets office before coming.

I hope that if your puppy problem is true that you do call or email me so I know which parents and what the problem was. If it is indeed a false report then I know where it came from.... And as I'm sure you will write back (I'm running from the truth) as you did on the last report filed. I can't figure it out - (Why does it make some people feel so good to make others look so bad?). Don't be so competive - Life is to short. I tell people to go see other breeders also. Then decide what you want to do. I don't tell them what I REALLY know about some other breeders. That would be really BAD now wouldn't it???????? The hind site is 20/20 really topped it off for me. Your famous words Friend...... Thank you soooo much

First of all your letter is a little confusing--You said you signed a contract that clearly states they pay no veterinarian bills, SHE WILL NOT TAKE THE PUPPY BACK, or give you a cash refund........ RIGHT!!!!

Then you say the contract reads you will have to bring the puppy back and wait on another puppy to be available. WHICH IS IT?????? No returns on puppies or they will replace a puppy.. See the fact is if you had my contract you wouldn't be so confused. It says (I will take a puppy back at any age, for any reason what so ever, no matter what). All breeder contracts that I've ever seen says no cash refunds. But in reality when it comes right down to it that is up to the breeder at the time a problem presents itself. How can they fix it if they don't know about it? I have bought puppies from veterinarians that only give a 3 day health guarantee on puppies with nothing else implied..... They are vets and I just have to trust that they know what their doing.

As far as I'm concerned if you have a problem with your puppy then I have a problem and would like to here about it from your mouth. This is not only your puppy that is involved, if there is a genetic defect you should tell the breeder. How are they to know what is going on unless you tell them. It's not only about you, it's about future litters that will be born because the breeder doesn't know.

I'm not sure if this complaint is true or false but I do know what my contract says - which is nothing like other breeder contracts. I will replace a puppy if you have a problem, I will take a puppy back at any time during his or her life time.

Now on another note - When searching for breeders to purchase your puppy from I would suggest that you put all their names in this web site. Check out all reports and figure out for yourself how true or not ture you think they may be. Check out their web sites, Can you talk to the past customers or at least email them? Can you have a vet reference? Can you see the parents on site and how they live? Can you see the entire litter? Do you get to pick out your puppy? There are lots of breeders in this world and it's up to you to go see for yourself what they have.

Like I said before nothing in the world is 100% guaranteed but you won't find a puppy raised any better or loved any more than right here. I answer all my phone calls myslef. I don't get on the phone and claim to be the secretary or office manager. I don't claim to be a 5 star rated kennel, I don't call myself North Carolina's #1 Kennel. (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN)......... But it sure is nice when people come out here and are amazed with our place and how beautiful the babies are. Or how clean it is and that they have talked to our vets office before coming.

I hope that if your puppy problem is true that you do call or email me so I know which parents and what the problem was. If it is indeed a false report then I know where it came from.... And as I'm sure you will write back (I'm running from the truth) as you did on the last report filed. I can't figure it out - (Why does it make some people feel so good to make others look so bad?). Don't be so competive - Life is to short. I tell people to go see other breeders also. Then decide what you want to do. I don't tell them what I REALLY know about some other breeders. That would be really BAD now wouldn't it???????? The hind site is 20/20 really topped it off for me. Your famous words Friend...... Thank you soooo much

First of all your letter is a little confusing--You said you signed a contract that clearly states they pay no veterinarian bills, SHE WILL NOT TAKE THE PUPPY BACK, or give you a cash refund........ RIGHT!!!!

Then you say the contract reads you will have to bring the puppy back and wait on another puppy to be available. WHICH IS IT?????? No returns on puppies or they will replace a puppy.. See the fact is if you had my contract you wouldn't be so confused. It says (I will take a puppy back at any age, for any reason what so ever, no matter what). All breeder contracts that I've ever seen says no cash refunds. But in reality when it comes right down to it that is up to the breeder at the time a problem presents itself. How can they fix it if they don't know about it? I have bought puppies from veterinarians that only give a 3 day health guarantee on puppies with nothing else implied..... They are vets and I just have to trust that they know what their doing.

As far as I'm concerned if you have a problem with your puppy then I have a problem and would like to here about it from your mouth. This is not only your puppy that is involved, if there is a genetic defect you should tell the breeder. How are they to know what is going on unless you tell them. It's not only about you, it's about future litters that will be born because the breeder doesn't know.

I'm not sure if this complaint is true or false but I do know what my contract says - which is nothing like other breeder contracts. I will replace a puppy if you have a problem, I will take a puppy back at any time during his or her life time.

Now on another note - When searching for breeders to purchase your puppy from I would suggest that you put all their names in this web site. Check out all reports and figure out for yourself how true or not ture you think they may be. Check out their web sites, Can you talk to the past customers or at least email them? Can you have a vet reference? Can you see the parents on site and how they live? Can you see the entire litter? Do you get to pick out your puppy? There are lots of breeders in this world and it's up to you to go see for yourself what they have.

Like I said before nothing in the world is 100% guaranteed but you won't find a puppy raised any better or loved any more than right here. I answer all my phone calls myslef. I don't get on the phone and claim to be the secretary or office manager. I don't claim to be a 5 star rated kennel, I don't call myself North Carolina's #1 Kennel. (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN)......... But it sure is nice when people come out here and are amazed with our place and how beautiful the babies are. Or how clean it is and that they have talked to our vets office before coming.

I hope that if your puppy problem is true that you do call or email me so I know which parents and what the problem was. If it is indeed a false report then I know where it came from.... And as I'm sure you will write back (I'm running from the truth) as you did on the last report filed. I can't figure it out - (Why does it make some people feel so good to make others look so bad?). Don't be so competive - Life is to short. I tell people to go see other breeders also. Then decide what you want to do. I don't tell them what I REALLY know about some other breeders. That would be really BAD now wouldn't it???????? The hind site is 20/20 really topped it off for me. Your famous words Friend...... Thank you soooo much