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Complaint Review: Pinnacle Security - Orem Utah

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  • Pinnacle Security pinnaclescurity.net Orem, Utah U.S.A.

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Pinnacle representatives attempted to "upgrade" our current home alarm system after we agreed to a promotional upgrade. Our cost would be $99 and we agreed to have the Pinnacle signs in our yard.

The appointment was set for 12:00 on a Saturday. The sales reps arrived 2 hours late. As we were discussing my needs, I talked about how important it is for me to have two operating panels. I have a developmentally delayed child who and I no matter what part of the house I am in, I need to hear when a window or door is opened. Our current system has 2 operation panels and we can hear a chime whenever something is opened. This is also important because we have a swimming pool and different doors that provide access to the pool area.

The reps agreed to give us two panels and discussed the particular type of alarm we needed. They said one of the most experienced techs was coming out. In fact, he was a trainer for new techs - so they said.

The tech (Benson)showed up around 4 and another tech (Jay) showed up about an hour later. After taking down our 2 existing alarm operating panels, pulling out countless wires, and blowing an electrical outlet, the tech realized the system we currently have was "too advanced" for him to complete the job. It seems that any reasonable or "experienced" tech would really take a look at the system to familiarize himself with the system and to ensure that he could acutally do the job. But basically, the first tech just said he couldn't "do it".

At this point, it was 5pm and we were expecting guests at 7. The second tech (who seemed much more knowledgeable, intelligent and respectful) came and offered to give us a temporary set up which would basically disable most of the features we need. It would really only provide motion detection and sensors on the main doors. It would be another days before someone else could come and make things right. My husband told Jay this was unacceptable and that we wanted the alarm returned to its original status. At about 7:30, Jay sent Benson home and started trying to fix our alarm. Benson just left, no apologies, no goodbye - he just walked right out my door after he blew my electrical outlet and messed up my alarm.

The only good thing I have to say is that Jay stayed at our house until almost 11PM trying to fix our alarm. He called our current company. Our alarm went off so many times that I had to have the monitoring company place us on ignore for 2 hours. The entire time my guests were visiting, we were disrupted by the alarm sounding and Jay coming in to ask us various questions and to enter our password to stop the alarms. At some point, my husband spoke with our salespeople and they arranged for a different tech to come out from DC on Monday to finish the job. The bottom line is that alarm was far too advanced for the tech to work on. Every room has a different zone for window, glass break and sliding doors (if present). There's also zones for fire, motion and entry. There are 24 zones and the tech told my husband they were used to working with 6 to 8 zones.

So Jay left after trying hard to fix things. Wires were left hanging from our main control box (I guess because he knew someone else would be coming back). The tech came out and said it would be a lot to put our system on the Pinnacle system. We would have to pay an additional $150.for another control box which would allow the alarm to be compatible with our current zone set up. We said we would think about this and were given a $150 damage report. It was explained that we would receive a check in "about 30 days" to fix our electrical outlet that the tech blew.

Today, we realized that our alarm was never fixed back to the original status. The tech that "fixed" the system evidently did not fix the wires correctly. Some of our doors and windows no longer chime when opened. Additionally, the operating panel no longer provides the correct indicators. For example, when we open our family room sliding glass door, the panel may read "bedroom window". Right now, there are about 6 doors and windows that could be opened and I wouldn't know it - the chimes do not work for these points. Also, if something does chime, my panel doesn't display the correct location. It seems there are at least 8 different zones that are incorrect.

Not only have we wasted time and money dealing with Pinnacle, but our safety and security has been compromised. I had a house full of children today and was a nervous wreck trying to keep any eye on everyone for every single second. With my doors chiming, I had the ability to react every time something opened.

They say you get what you pay for so beware when something is offered for free. Also, if you already have an alarm that works great - you really need to think twice about upgrading. Is it really worth it? For me, the answer is NO.

Anonymous
catonsville, Maryland
U.S.A.

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UNETHICAL - Please don't EVER allow yourself to be duped by these organization

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 20, 2008

Pinnacle offered me $450 despite the fact that I paid $950 to correct damages caused by their people - they said I should have had their damages corrected by the company who offered to do it for $300 plus $150 for the outlet they blew IF I switched monitoring. Otherwise, everyone we contacted gave us a price of $800 for the repair plus $150 for the outlet. After the Pinnacle nightmare, why would I switch monitoring? Actually, why would I agree to pay more and get nothing for it?

At least when we got suckered into this deal by Pinnacle, we were getting something for switching the monitoring. We were getting the service that is like On-Star where they will listen in and call to you if an alarm goes off in your house. My husband really wanted us to have this because he travels for work a lot and we have a special needs child. The sales rep really hyped this service and my husband really believed in it and wanted it. So we were actually getting an upgrade along with key fobs and some other extras they threw in for "free". So of course we were willing to switch monitoring.

Pinnacle's argument is that we were willing to switch once so why didn't we switch and get the "cheaper" repair and just pay more for monitoring.

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Still no action

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2008

So I filed a complaint with the Utah BBB
Pinnacle quickly responded (no surprise there) with an apology saying that they would reimburse me if I submitted a copy of an invoice showing the repairs.

I had two companies come out to give me quotes for the repairs. The cost to fix the electrical problem was $150 (mostly for the electrician's "time"). The cost to repair my system that Pinnacle damaged was a different story! Both companies said $800! One offered to do it for $300 if I entered into a new contract with them for monthly monitoring. Of course, I did not want to do this because I am happy with my monitoring and hesitant to get into a contract with a new company after this fiasco.

Both companies indicated that any technician (even an amateur one) could have done the repair. The problem was that is was going to take 2 techs a few hours or 1 tech all day to fix it. Basically, they had to open each window or door in my house and see which wire was crossed. Since the alarm panels are upstairs and the control box is in the basement, this meant a day of running up and down the steps for one tech. The company we went with basically had one tech stationed upstairs and the second at the control box. It was just "busy" work as they put it - but of course you have to pay professionals for their time.

So, we have paid to have the repairs -$950. We faxed the receipt to Pinnacle 2 weeks ago and have heard nothing. I called Pinnacle three times today - just getting through to a human is a nightmare. Evidently only one person can help me and that is Kyle who deals with repairs. First he was "unavailable" then he was at lunch.

This company is a joke and I am thinking of bringing suit just on the principle of the matter.

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Ex-Employee: The Technicians are Mostly Young Novice

AUTHOR: Grant - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 01, 2008

I am sorry for your experience, but, once again, it is true. Pinnacle Security's technicians are young and inexperienced. For most of them this is just a summer job. Pinnacle Security will gain from their inexperience because they pay them inadequately. The technicians make about 50 dollars a job, plus a hopeful tip from the customer. With gas prices as low and minute as the current situation, it is not hard to imagine the techs financial trouble (Pinnacle does not pay for their gas expenses).

Moreover, on most days there are not enough young techs to handle the installation demands--causing sloppy results. Although we can be empathic toward the techs situation, the main trouble is having "learn as you go," under paid techs setting up home security systems. Why should the customers security be compromised because of Pinnacle's faulty processes?

The facts are conclusive: Pinnacle Security's installation process is a debacle.

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