Report: #716224

Complaint Review: Preferred411 P411

  • Submitted: Mon, April 11, 2011
  • Updated: Thu, August 18, 2011
  • Reported By: minhassho — United States of America
  • Preferred411 P411

    Internet
    United States of America

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Recently Gina asked me to start a screening campaign for providers. I
said OK extra security is great with your leak site starting. She told
me I had to assk for a close-up picture of your ID a picture of your
face holding your ID and a picture of your face your P411 provider
number your escort name and the date.



I thought that was a little weird. So I asked told her that was a lot
of information to be asking. Gina said she would get back to me the
next day. Then she told me the girls could block out their name and
addresses but the birthday and ID number had to be clear. I told her
that if you had the birthday and drivers license number that LE could
still track you down. She said thats not our concern.



Now I love working for Gina and I have for a while but I also love the
P411 girls that I talk to on a daily basis. [continued below]....
..... They depend on us for their
income their rent their food and their family. So I asked Gina once
again what was up. She just said its necessary and hung up.



So here I am and Ive been checking IDs comparing carefully emailing
girls back and forth when Gina says the pictures arent good enough and
then saving them exactly where I was told. Sometimes I cant believe
that girls are giving up their personal info so quickly but they really
trust Gina. Personal information of clients are also turned over to LE.



I just dont want any trouble for myself or for the girls. Gina is
dealing with LE issues in the United States and will not ever set foot
in the US. Its just not right that Gina is collecting names and IDs and
handles just to get herself out of trouble. Im afraid she will give me
up along with the ladies too.
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#1 Consumer Comment

Gina FISHING for ID's for what? LE?

AUTHOR: Fresca - (USA)

Welll, after many back and forth with Gina on providing my ID and her reason for it (to prove I am over 18) after I have repeatedly told her I have been on her site near a decade and diffinitally look over 35 she now came up with an other escuse. I have told her it is illegal to ask for goverment ID so she replied she'd accept an other form of ID with my photo, full legal name and DOB. Then I have told her that such ID's with these info can only be govermental, that not even a univeristy card will have all that info (DOB) for privacy reasons they use student numbers and that I am obviously over 18 so I don't see why I have to provide such personal info on myself. IMO, SHE'S GATHERING INFO FOR LE, NO OTHER RESONS TO FISH!

She resonded:

'It doesn't need to be a "card", we just need to see something that shows your dob.

 
In your case our concern isn't that you are underage. We use names and dobs to track duplicate accounts and various other types of fraud. We require all accounts to have a verified name and dob on them, and while I'm willing to make some concession because you've been a member for a number of years (albeit 7, not 17), there is no exceptions made when it comes to verification images.
 
It doesn't need to be your government issued id, but I do need to have images that satisfy the name and dob requirement to my satisfaction.'
 
GINA
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REALLY???? why would she want to verify 'various other type of fraud' unless she's working with the police? I have offered to verify with a photo holding a paper with the date and my P411 account number, that is sufficent! But, she insist on having my DOB and full legal name!! She's not the bank nor the gov, she has no legal reasons to have such info!! I m a customer/provider advertising with her. I can't imagine any advertizing sites wanting my Gov ID (or any ID) with pic, DOB and legal name to advertize with them, that's serious breech of my privacy and my identiy can be stolen with that much info!!!!! Giving that to her can land ANYWHERE, not secure at all!!!
 
I am thinking perhaps the site was taken over by police investigatiors and they are gathering info on service providers. I can't imagine why the owner of a verification stie for providers would act this way with providers who are obviously in good standards and in the business for over a decade without any trouble or complaints. Why would Gina want to breech the privacy of her customers/providers who are in good standard? Especially in this economy where we are all struggling to get by?! Very questionable!.
 
Ladies, be very worried and do NOT give our your ID of any kind! IT is fishing, that's the LE or not, it is uncalled for, and you don't have too!!
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#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds

ILLEGAL IN CANADA TO ASK FOR GOV ID COPIES IN RETURN FOR ANYTHING!

AUTHOR: Mr Smith - (USA)

First off some of the providers on the site has been on P411 since the begining, it is insulting to ask us to prove we are 18+ when we have been on her site longer than that!

It is highly illegal to ask copies of a persons goverment ID in return for services or anything else actually. The goverment imply this law to keep people safe from FISHING ID and IDENTITY FRAUD. 

Blocking services that was normally offered, and taking someones ad hostage till they get a goverment ID is ILLEGAL!

Info on ID requests by anyone in return for services of any kind: rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams-fraudes/id-theft-vol-eng.htm

Take screenshots of the page where you are forced to provide goverment ID in return for your ad to be back on and add it to your report as well as ANY email regarding your ad being blocked until you get her your goverment ID.

Please report it here: antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca/reportincident-signalerincident/index-eng.htm YOU CAN REPORT ANONYMOUSLY! Please do so, it takes only 3 minutes. 

eros.com has been doing the same to Canadian and it is highly illegal, they have been reported and the goverment of canada fraud division has open a case on them.

Enough taking advantage of us by asking ILLEGALLY to provide our personal goverment ID in return for our ads back.

Respect the law and our privacy!

 

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#3 Consumer Comment

Truth About Gina P411/ Gina is A Liar!!!

AUTHOR: Daniels - ()

 She Lies!!Gina answered her own rebuttal all lies, # 1 everthing that was posted on the ripoff reports  is absolute Truth,

Stay away from this site!! P411  she will most certainly cause problems for U!!!

She think because she is in Canada she is untouchable!!!   Wrong!!

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#4 Consumer Comment

Gina is a scam artist and criminal!

AUTHOR: ScamGina - ()

Gina is a dirty scam artist and criminal. The whole "we will discard of your personal info and not keep it" is total BS! She cheats clients out of money, charges hidden fees, will close your account without warning and probable cause. She ades and a beds illegal activity that's not unique to their site. Your info is not safe with her. Do not sign up for this site! 

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#5 Consumer Comment

GinaXXX is a Pioneer in Sex Positive Promotion

AUTHOR: SexPositivePromoter - ()

I am a sex positive promoter. i have been an escort and a sex-life coach. 

I now promote safe access to sex however one chooses to have sex.

Preferred 411 allows clients and providers to have safe access. I have used the site for three years with LE actively harrassing providers more than clients P411 gives one perfect access to the perfect provider.

Contact each OK referall to validate the references of each providers.

Providers must be over 18 and this must be validated. Consentual sex acctivities between adults only offered on P411.

I have found this site to usually be a great resource in this matter there is NO RIP OFF w/ P411.

Gina is a pioneer and there should be no blame on her desire to remain free and proivde a safe site. 

Sex is a Positive Act 

The most DIVINE exeprience.

Sex Positive Promoter

 

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#6 UPDATE Employee

Outlaw

AUTHOR: panther - ()

Gina in fact can't come to the U.S. for fear of prosecution.  She is a cheat who has many cases pending, the majority of which are fraud.  She has made it a habit of collecting fee's and information then turning around  and closing your account then selling your personal information.  Don't trust them or her.  

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#7 Consumer Comment

P411 has many fake/shill handles and the implied security is misleading

AUTHOR: St Christopher - (United States of America)

Preferred411 advertises a screening/security process, but the fact is that eccieleaks and LE has infiltrated their screening system.  The increased security measures she now requires is proof of that.  Unfortunately, now that the floodgate is open, you can't be assured that the provider that is P411 verified is not LE or even a real provider.

Also, the screening that Gina does is quite easy for any agency to circumvent.  I have received multiple reports from ladies stating that they were busted by their P411 +3 client.  This statement by Gina is a farce "Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow."

P411 states "We will usually check your employment info and/or provider references. "  How do they do that?  A simple phone call to the "company" you work for.  Hey, I'll give you a fake company and number Gina and you can verify me.  Gina is more interested in making that $89/year fee than she is in security.

Give it a try for yourself.  Apply for P411 and tell them you are Mickey Mouse and have them call Disneyland.  As long as you get them their $89, you are in.  The "security" they offer is implied, but not real.
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#8 Consumer Comment

It is true that the owner of P411, Gina is wanted in the United States

AUTHOR: eccieleaks - (United States of America)

This statement was made in the initial report. "Gina is dealing with LE issues in the United States and will not ever set foot in the US. "

This is very much a fact.

Gina has changed the policy that states you need to send at least 3 pictures of you with your ID, holding it up, clear by itself, and so on.  Check her site and this is fact that you can verify yourself.

Call Gina and ask her to come to United States soil and see what she says. 

Go to her website and see where she states that in order to be a P411 provider that she needs:
"A clear photo of you, holding a sign with the following written on it.
a) your P#
b) date

I MUST be able to compare the verification photo with the photos to be used on your page. This means that if the photos you wish to have on your page are blurred, I will need to see the unblurred version of thosephotos for comparison. If you use body shots on your page, your verification photo will need to include a body shot."

Think for yourself and put 2 and 2 together.  Verify these facts for yourself.
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This report is false

AUTHOR: GinaXXX - (United States of America)

Anyone concerned about this post is welcome to call 1-877-446-2411 and speak to Kathy (the staff member who supposedly posted this)yourself, or contact myself at 1-877-446-2999.

The post is copied from the same site that is trying to cause similar problems for E.C.C.I.E.

There are (unfortunately) lots of people who hate me and P411 (usually people who have been removed from the site), who make real efforts to discredit us. Of course, claiming we are working with L.E. is the best way to freak everyone out... but take a minute to think about it? Why would we??? It would be really bad for business. So calm down folks, it's just another hater starting some drama.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.

If you're really interested, I can also direct you to the site the post came from... and you can see for yourself that there are other posts, supposedly made by other fairly well known people in the Hobby, saying all kinds of similar nonsense. The entire site I speak of is set up by some wacko impersonating known handles in the escort industry.

Always,
Gina

www.preferred411.com
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