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Report: #533031

Complaint Review: Pro Marketing USA Inc. - Phoenix Arizona

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  • Reported By: Shavkat — Burbank California U.S.A.
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  • Pro Marketing USA Inc. 20235 N. Cave Creek Road Suite 104-250 Phoenix, Arizona United States of America

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I was their victim tried to get Paypal help me get my money back because they never did the job on PR5 reach offer, but stupid Paypal decided in their favor when they didnt even respond neither to them nor to me. I am going to file a BBB complaint and a Ripoff report against the submitfrog.com scam this is a fraud website so everyone stay away! If someone was also scammed by submit frog please file a bbb.org complaint and a ripoff.com report and post about it elsewhere so less people get into their trap. Paypal seem just helping this kind of scam businesses because they are completely useless in getting your money back paid for nothing.

Here is another their victim:

Just wanted to warn everyone I've used SubmitFrog and they were so nice and assuring about improving my rankings but once they got my $800 they completely vanished and never responded again. They are also the same company as eMediaWorld, which is also ProMarketingUsa. Other people have been ripped off by this group of people too.

quote: "I received unsolicited email offers from SubmitFrog, and finally agreed to try their service. In mid-July I direct-deposited $1249US into a bank account that they supplied, for their Bronze package SEO at a special reduced price, for my start-up business site. Once they had my money, they never contacted me or responded to any of my email or voice communications to them. I subsequently did what I should have done before giving them my money tried to verify their legitimacy. Their listed Vancouver business address turns out to be fictitious, and the bank account I was given for the deposit was actually for an infant girl, not a business account at all. Im filing a fraud complaint with the RCMP Canadian police. I live in BC. Their web site makes them look legitimate, but the one link to a customer testimonial on their site proved also to be unreachable. SubmitFrog has the same US business address as Pro Marketing USA, and this company also refuses to reply to my inquiries. I suspect both companies are a complete fraud. Wish Id known about Pamil-visions and this blog before I got caught in this scam.
Steve"

Stay away from these guys. I just can't believe how they could do this and actually operate and continue doing it without anyone noticing. I thought I'd let it out.

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AUTHOR: Rick - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, June 25, 2011

The owners of Submitfrog.com, emediaworld.com etc Names are Alexander Pidgeon and Rene Pidgeon

They are now owners of Clearlease.com which is connected to the Dominion Lending Center Franchise. Google their names with DLC or clearlease for contact info. I wonder if the owners of DLC know what they are truly dealing with.

Alexander Pidgeon is also the owner of Asian Pacific Energy. Google 'Alex Pidgeon OSC' (Ontario Securities Commision) Very interesting reading.

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#3 Author of original report

I can prove in court I was a client of this scam company

AUTHOR: Shavkat - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 05, 2009

I am a client (I can easily prove it in the court) and not the one they try to refer to - this is totally a scam company and they will not do the job or return your money. Buyers beware! We are preparing a lawsuit against these clowns now. We keep everyone posted. The other guy isn't their competitor but also a client who can prove he is and the guy was scammed for $800 (my money lost was just a bit less than $60) - so please be very cautious dealing with this company or similar ones. Paypal is unhelpful if you try to request your money back because they call it 'intangible goods' and do not help getting back your money paid for it. Submitfrog.com will not do the job, isn't a reputable seo company as they claim, the have a very low pagerank and offer to sell you high pr links or pages - you can read some other guy's review of them here:
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Here are some more links to see what people are saying about this company:
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The fact they responded twice here with the same text just to make "two" responses - will help you understand what they are and if you want to deal with them.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

ohyahman is a crazy competitor scroned refusing to communicate

AUTHOR: submitfrog - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 04, 2009

It has come to our attention at submitfrog.com that there is 1 or more posts in one of your forums/website slandering our company. We have been in business for many years providing excellent customer service to thousands of clients. Similar posts have been made in a few other Webmaster forums by the same user name  ohyahman . We at submitfrog.com find this very offensive. We have tried to reach out to this careless individual via an email account provided by this user  ohyahman@gmail.com  to no avail. The slander and comments provided by this user do not adhere to our prices or policies, notr do they adhere to yours.
We are currently investigating the matter to determine the nature and cause fro this slander and then continued hiding by this individual.  At present, we are led to beleive this to be a situation where one of our clients recently canceled the services of a web designer after we supplied a full Google analytics of the service they were receiving from this individual. This web designer left our clients offices uttering threats against the client and Submitfrog.com.
Furthermore if this problem persists submitfrog.com and our client will be filing the appropriate charges and civil litigation against this individual. Shortly after threats were made by this individual, posts started appearing on Webmaster Forums.
Our legal department is furthering our investigation into this matter and we would ask at this point to remove post by this user  ohyahman  at this point in time as we are perusing this matter to the fullest extent of the law.  .
It is public knowledge how to contact Submitfrog.com by email which has not changed since inception.  We are always more than happy to do everything we can to work things out with any and all clients, both real and fictional . Regards, Submitfrog info@submitfrog.com
  

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#1 UPDATE Employee

Scorned Competitor goes Crazy with SLander and then hides

AUTHOR: submitfrog - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 04, 2009

It has come to our attention at submitfrog.com that there is 1 or more posts in one of your forums/website slandering our company. We have been in business for many years providing excellent customer service to thousands of clients. Similar posts have been made in a few other Webmaster forums by the same user name  ohyahman . We at submitfrog.com find this very offensive. We have tried to reach out to this careless individual via an email account provided by this user  ohyahman@gmail.com  to no avail. The slander and comments provided by this user do not adhere to our prices or policies, notr do they adhere to yours.
We are currently investigating the matter to determine the nature and cause fro this slander and then continued hiding by this individual.  At present, we are led to beleive this to be a situation where one of our clients recently canceled the services of a web designer after we supplied a full Google analytics of the service they were receiving from this individual. This web designer left our clients offices uttering threats against the client and Submitfrog.com.
Furthermore if this problem persists submitfrog.com and our client will be filing the appropriate charges and civil litigation against this individual. Shortly after threats were made by this individual, posts started appearing on Webmaster Forums.
Our legal department is furthering our investigation into this matter and we would ask at this point to remove post by this user  ohyahman  at this point in time as we are perusing this matter to the fullest extent of the law.  .
It is public knowledge how to contact Submitfrog.com by email which has not changed since inception.  We are always more than happy to do everything we can to work things out with any and all clients, both real and fictional . Regards, Submitfrog info@submitfrog.com
  

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