• Report: #913551
Complaint Review:

Progressive Options Genetics Cuts

  • Submitted: Tue, July 17, 2012
  • Updated: Tue, March 05, 2013

  • Reported By: progressiveCUTSuOFFonTHEfreeway — pacoima California United States of America
Progressive Options Genetics Cuts
9901 San Fernando Rd. Unit #41, Los Angeles, CA 91 san fernando, California United States of America

Progressive Options Genetics Cuts Progressive Options Ripped Me and my neighbors off, no refunds, BEEN GROWING almost 40 YEARS! next time will see what else is out there! san fernando, California

*Consumer Comment: truely a rip off

*General Comment: I remember your post on WeedTracker

*Consumer Suggestion: You Claim 40 years Experience!

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Do not waste your time dealing with PO Genetics. I lost thousands of dollars ordering from them. Their cuts are sub standard and defective.  It's not just the cost of the cut. It's the cost of the nutes, water supplies and electricity that adds up. Others on this site have reported more detailed accounts of how they run their business so I'll just leave the review I've been posting below..............

***Since writing this review I have done the research into PO Genetics I should have done before ordering from them. These Guys are a complete sham. Many of their good reviews are self generated. I wasted many months and allot of money with their garbage cuts. DON'T DO THE SAME!!!!****

This is a hard review for me. I tend not to review unless something is either stellar or terrible. My experience with clone queen is a mixed bag. On one hand I think the prices are fantastic, the staff is very friendly and helpful & the quantity of cuts available at last minute is great. On the other hand the reliability is iffy, the staff communication seems non-existant and the clone quality is all over the place from strong and healthy to DOA.. [continued below]....

So to elaborate:

I have placed two orders with Progressive Options and had a couple warranty replacements.  My first order was delivered on time with no problems. (It should be noted though that the cuts were very varied in size and root development. Some were healthy with thick stems and others puny little things) The staff was very friendly and helpful with care instructions and trouble shooting issues I will touch on later. Some staff was so fantastic that I hate to write anything negative but at the end of the day its the "cut" that matters most. So I got my first order and after a week I could see about 6 were gonners. I went through their warranty process and they were happy to replace my duds. My problem starts here. I dont think the people taking orders communicate anything to the people taking the cuts or sending them out. For my replacements I requested the biggest, strongest and most well rooted cuts so they have a chance to keep up with my first batch that would be 2 weeks ahead . I'm not about to mix up separate nute batches. I was assured I'd get the best of the best. What they brought looked worse than my duds. I took them anyway but kept my duds just in case. Another issue I ran into was a bad mite infestation. It's hard to place a blame on that since mites can be picked up anywhere but it was my first order with them and the first time I ever had mites. My biggest problem with my order over all though was stunting. My total disappointment didn't happen until it finished up well under expectations. The final plants were so uneven in there growth that I can hardly believe they are all the same. Some grew into monsters but many never grew past a foot or branched out at all. (insert me bragging about how experienced I am and know what I'm doing - HERE) The quality of what I did get out of it was exceptable. As you might expect the bigger and healthier the plant the better the quality.

Overall I wasn't happy with my end result. I wasn't planning to use PO Genetics again right away but the only other descent clone spot in SoCal recently mowed down all their moms and can't produce anything in sufficient quantity in a descent amount of time. SO - I tried PO again. My scheduling didn't go so well this time. Two no shows and an almost impossible time trying to get ahold of anybody on the phone. My third try almost didn't happen. I schedule for and evening time and they texted at 11pm the night before saying it'll be early afternoon. I tried all day to work out the time but it was only because the driver was cool enough to come back later (going way out of his way and adding hours to his drive) that it worked out. I learned from the last order and asked if I could order more that I need so I could sort out the real crappy cuts. I was told they didn't really do that but I didn't have to take any cuts I wasn't happy with. Man I should have ordered a hundred more than I needed. Out of 4 dozen there was only 4-6 that actually looked good. If I had not been in such a desperate situation I would have just turned them all down. Hardly any roots had popped at all. Many were wilted or crispy and some were DOA. I asked the driver about the roots and he said "if the stems don't come out when pulled on they consider it good to go". ?????? I sorted through them and took the best, as far as I could tell anyway. Later when I took them out of the bag a hand full had just keeled over and wilted. I don't even want to bother with the warranty at this point. I set these up and crossed my fingers.  I'll update my outcome of this batch later if I can.

So my review is a bit mixed. They do some things well but other things not so much. I really want to be able to rave about these guys but so far I haven't had a solid experience. So I would say if you absolutely need to order from them take some precautions. Don't expect grade A cuts or an easy time ordering but don't be surprised if they go a great job either.

(***UPDATE***) So I have sad news to report. After much toil and effort I have decided to scrap this batch of cuts from progressive options. I have tried unsuccessfully calling them for days to use my warranty to replace my cuts as I am still within my 30 days. I have left messages and texts and have not heard back in over a week. The batch has not developed properly. They are week and thin. Many need to supported. The Side branching is non-existant and they just plain look like s**t. In
comparison I took 8 cuts off a mom of the same strain (different genetics) the day I got this batch to make up the difference. So they are at least 7-10 days behind my Progressive Opt cuts. They are now 25% larger and very healthy. Good branching and dont need to propped up. It was this side by side comparison which led to my decision to scrap the PO cuts. They are just substandard. In hind I am glad they aren't responding to my warranty request because I don't want to waste anymore time, energy or money on their junk cuts. It is a hard lesson learned but I will never again get cuts when I'm in such a desperate frame of mind. It only make it worse.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/17/2012 06:24 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/progressive-options-genetics-cuts/san-fernando-california-/progressive-options-genetics-cuts-progressive-options-ripped-me-and-my-neighbors-off-no-r-913551. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

truely a rip off

AUTHOR: seasonedgrower - ()

I have been a victum of their unethical practices also.

I spent over 400 dollars on clones and found that 2 weeks into veg they all look different than the strain I ordered. I do not usually order clones. I have been growing a long time and try to make it a point to clone in house.

Long story short I made a costly mistake getting po clones. None of then were what I ordered and the yield was not medical quality.

Ijust don't want anyone to spend money on unknown genetics. Oh and once you order nobody answers the phone so no refund for me.

This is a sad example to set for the medical marijuana community.

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#2 General Comment

I remember your post on WeedTracker

AUTHOR: PerfectCanopy - (United States of America)

Hi, I remember your fake complaint from WeedTracker, nice to see you posted elsewhere!

Just wanted to say I'm a member of P.O. and what you copied and pasted here is just petty. You posted this exact complaint on WeedTracker when P.O. had their page active and within minutes, other forum members tracked the pictures you posted as your proof that you had powdery mildew to photos posted on the internet during 2004 by a magazine in Europe --- 7 years before your complaint (lol) & your exact complaint to that on 3 other clone shops in orange county and Los Angeles (posted long before that on Progressive Options' page). Please spend more time focusing on your business rather than flaming your competition with absolute lies online.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

You Claim 40 years Experience!

AUTHOR: FatZip818OG - (United States of America)

i am not even 40 yet! and i have some news for you buddy. 
1st -  you complained some were larger stemmed and some skinny. well.... some strains are more vigorous than others especially when some of their genetics are from the early 90's!!! that means the plant has been being cloned ever since which means it loses vigor naturally! new strains and crossbreeds will be more vigorous!

2nd - you could have complained right then and there about the skimpy ones or less rooted ones. i know for a fact that the real Tahoe OG Elite Cut takes up to 3 weeks to root and have only a few roots in comparison to a newer strain that will have web like roots in 12 Days or so! they treat all clones right then and there if you request it which will prevent  mold and bugs. they even have a microscope for you to check it yourself it's in the open in front your face. its your fault you did not utilitze these!

3rd - if plants are different heights there are many ways to fix this if you have experience, seems like you just a hater or a 40 year old vet that learned nothing. pinch the stem till you crush it a bit this will stop the growth upwards for a bit and allow the lower branches and you short plants to catch up while it repairs itself from the crimping. after it creates knot that draws more nutrients to the top most buds anyways so you actually end up with a stronger larger plant
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