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Complaint Review: Push Traffic Inc., "Jonny Andrews", Ted Molina - Los Angeles California

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  • Push Traffic Inc., "Jonny Andrews", Ted Molina 700 South Flower Street, Suite 1410 Los Angeles, California U.S.A.

Push Traffic Inc., "Jonny Andrews", Ted Molina Company representing selves as an individual, verbal offer made with false payment detail, charged credit card without admitting they were doing so Los Angeles California

*Author of original report: Damages Suit Filed July 2, 2010

*Author of original report: Blogs with Helpful References.

*Author of original report: More Low Blows, and Delaaaaaays

*UPDATE Employee: Look at the disclaimers, don't impulse!

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April 13, 2009 I received a phonecall from a man who said "Jonny" had asked him to call - I responded "Jonny who?" He said "Jonny Andrews" (an internet marketing personna, from whom I had purchased a "course" some months prior). Since I was out of town at the time, he said he'd call back the next day, but didn't.

Late afternoon of April 22, 2009 I received a phonecall from a man representing himself as "Jonny". When I said he didn't sound like the individual I had seen in a video online, he said that was because the online man is an actor hired to do commercials for him. Both phonecalls originated from the same area code and and set of company numbers.

He professed interest in how my internet marketing business was going, and when I said I was frustrated and needed to know more about altering websites that I have and tracking advertising, among other things, he said he could "help" me to get the business into a profitable position within 2 weeks to 6 months. He said he would ask just 2 things: 1) that I promise to never reveal or sell his trade secret marketing methods, and 2) that I send him a cheque for $5,000 after my business made $50,000.

He asked how much credit I could access, and how. I told him I could use credit on a credit card. He asked which one and claimed to check if they would extend my credit. He then said we could get started immediately and his GM, Ted Molina would send me a non-disclosure/confidentiality agreement to sign - that it would have to be done quickly because it was end of the day and his employees would be gone for the day shortly.

I saw nothing in the agreement to indicate they would be putting an immediate $4,500 charge on my MasterCard (there was a partial number there and the name I go by, not the name on my card), and consequently considered that the inclusion of my number was a fair assurance that he would be paid when the deal was complete, so emailed it back. The paperwork did not mention "Jonny Andrews" by name - there was a company name of Push Traffic Inc.

He said there would be phonecalls confirming our agreement and setting times for the mentoring sessions the next day, and that he would call. When I called my credit card company the next morning they said that Push Traffic had put through 3 separate charges, totalling $4,500US.

As promised, a woman named Christian phoned that afternoon to set up times. She had sent me emails detailing what preparations I needed to make. The emails said I must choose one of the provided website templates that she could "customise", and that I would need to arrange for domain name and hosting, as well as other services. When I refused to choose because (as I told her) I already had, and had paid for, websites, domain names and hosting, as well as the other things mentioned like autoresponders, she just replied that I needed to choose a template so she could begin work.

It was obvious that I was not being offered the help I'd anticipated - "Jonny" had been saying whatever he thought would "sell" me. They had taken by misrepresentation of intent $5,713.05CAN, and were providing me with what other companies had given for no charge. I would have to come up with additional funds for anything one can't access for free online ie: hosting, autoresponders, tracking software or service and, most importantly and expensively - advertising. Christian said she would talk to "him" about it and he would call me back.

I heard nothing that afternoon or the next morning, so decided to exercise my right to cancel the contract (3 day clause). I emailed the cancellation Friday, as well as sending a hard copy by registered mail that day (April 24).

Mr. Molina emailed me Sunday (April 26) night instructing me to "be available" Monday when he called because I was "implying" that there would be more expense and he didn't see where. I replied saying I would be available every week day, and forwarded Christian's emails to him to prove my point about the additional expenses I'd be responsible for. He did not call then, and has never called since.

The registered letter was picked up April 30 in Los Angeles, and the signature card (signed by A. Black) was returned to me. I have since sent a second email requesting a refund, but they have not responded; nor have they put through a credit to my account as of today, May 28, 2009.

Kathy
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

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#4 Author of original report

Damages Suit Filed July 2, 2010

AUTHOR: Kathy - (Canada)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 13, 2010

An update to inform anyone searching for information about John Raygoza and his online enterprises. I can personally vouch for their fraudulent tactics in their dealings with me, and:

A lawsuit on behalf of 37+ named victims (plus countless so far unnamed) was filed in UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA on July 2, 2010, naming defendants:

PUSHTRAFFIC,
INCFORTUNE,
DOT INTEL, LLC.,
SUCCESSRATE, INC.,
YOURAFFILIATESUCCESS,
JUMPLAUNCH,
JOHN RAYGOZA,
TED MOLINA,
DAVID SIPES

citing 6 complaints:
VERIFIED COMPLAINT
FOR DAMAGES:
1. RICO
2. LANHAM ACT
3. FRAUD
4. FALSE ADVERTISING
5. UNFAIR COMPETITION
6. ELDER FINANCIAL ABUSE

Obviously, none of these complaints has yet been proven in court, but the number of unrelated plaintiffs, and the fact that a lawyer with an international reputation would agree to file the suit on their behalf should indicate the need for extreme caution in dealings with Raygoza and his colleagues and companies, as well as any other company asking for credit or debit card information.

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Blogs with Helpful References.

AUTHOR: Kathy - (Canada)

POSTED: Monday, March 15, 2010

I forgot to add in my update above that there are a number of blogs established to help those taken by John Raygoza's companies to publicize their experiences, as well as file legal reports. Here are 3 of the most active and helpful:

http://onlinelowblowsandsuckerpunches.wordpress.com/

and

http://pushtrafficscam.com/category/victims-stories/

and

http://www.pushtrafficswindle.com/22/beware-push-traffic-scam-2/#comment-11

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More Low Blows, and Delaaaaaays

AUTHOR: Kathy - (Canada)

POSTED: Monday, March 15, 2010

To Paul,
Your response to my post here is fine, but more of a testimonial for Jonny Andrews than anything else. I have absolutely no quarrel with Jonny, except that somehow John Raygoza's company obtained my contact information from him.

This is also an update to my original Report. The scam took place April 22/23, 2009. To date Push Traffic has responded to my requests/demands only once, and that was approximately 2 weeks ago. Mr. Raygoza has emailed once to say that "we" cannot resolve this dispute unless I agree to a telephone conversation - hhhmmmm, pardon the sarcasm, but isn't that how he sucker punched me in the first place?

This company took my money under false pretenses - one of their salesmen claiming to be AN INDIVIDUAL (whom I was inclined to trust, but had never actually spoken to), in a phone conversation! Why would I trust anything said by anyone from that company in another phone conversation? One can NEVER be certain of identity on the internet, let alone believe verbal promises or claims.

Push Traffic's representative lied to the bank in disputing my chargeback request; and the bank seems to support their client rather than a ripped off consumer. But that's another story. Relevant here is the fact that Raygoza's company more than maxed out my credit card immediately (because the bank let them) after the individual who called said he would help and I would owe him ONLY when my business was in profit. A verbal agreement between 2 people - one a "trusting soul", the other a liar and thief.

Ten months later, and Push Traffic has never returned one cent of that stolen money.

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Look at the disclaimers, don't impulse!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Jonny Andrews is a legite operation for affiliate marketing. There are people out there called, "ASSHOLES" that don't care about you. Someone DID scam you, but it wasn't Jonny Andrews. He doesn't make phone calls, this is how he is different. He isn't charging you money unless you make money. He wants you to make money. You can do a lot of stuff, especially when you make money, he has other oiptions if you are willing to put up money. In other words, he wants you to like it. Its not his website, its not a marekting scheme, its how to be part of Affiliate Marketing.
For example, have you seen this ad for GOOGLE pays me $5000 or $123/hr. Well thats not google, in fact no one knows what it is. If you go the site, there are starnge things. Like a Mary Steadmen, and the picture of Mary Steadmen look like a girl from the slumdog millionaire. Look at the discalimer, they cahrge you on your credit card exactly what they say, $1.27 for s/h on the FREE DVD. Well what you don't know is, because they have it written down and YOU didn't take the time to read it, at a legal standpoint they in fact take out $69.95 from your card and plus some other fees as part of the re-occuring monthly membership fee. So because they use those words and have it written down, its legit.
Man people wonder why our economy isn't doing so well.....i wonder why?
I have been scammed before, i learned real quick that when something doesn't make sense in my head, (inside) and the person cannot make sense to it for me, then its not legite. I came accross doing that before and found myself being scammed; not any more.
His product Money Siphon System 2.0. Its a bunch of .pdf, .mp3, and video files. Jonny Andrews talks to you and shows you, as if you are looking over his shoulder. If i am not mistaken, i don't think Jonny Andrews handles out of the country of USA. Thats something to think about too. Why would an american company come to you in Canada? Soemthing to think about and TELL others too. Not about Jonny Andrews, but more so about on how to crack down and STOP this abuse of illegal marketing where they just take your money and run!

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