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1, Report #1396932
Aug 31 2017
06:32 AM
Macomb County Community Mental Health ACT Ventures: John Pascaretti Mental Health Abuse Clinton township Michigan **Author of this Report is NOT CONFIRMED**
 On May 5th 2016 my husband was accused of having a firearm for his protection. When in all actuality he was painting a rifle at his place of business for a customer. A case manager went to the probate court in Macomb County and got an exparte order to send him to Kalamazoo State Hospital for observation, which according to state law is 24-72 hours. He was held for 3 weeks without any ment reason because the case manager refused to show up in court. On may 3rd the case manager entered our place of business illegally and seen a rifle case sitting in our kiosk at Gibraltar Trade center. That prior week another case manager visited the kiosk and the rifle case was visibly sitting on the floor. He made no mention of it. That following Wednesday the case manager misled employees at the trade center and gained entry into the building. He asked about the rifle case and was informed that it was a customers who brought it in to be camouflaged. The case manager and my husband closed the shop and went to a scheduled Wednesday meeting. That Thursday my husband met with another therapist and informed him about the rifle but he said nothing of it being a problem with painting it. That Friday, the case manager met us at the trade center, helped us retrieve items and move them inside the building. He and my husband got in the car(state vehicle) because the case manager said that they need to fill out medicaid forms. Upon arrival at the facility where he recieves services. The case manager yelled out. Youre going back to the hospital, that firearm is a violation of your court ordered mental health treatment. He hopped out of the car as if he were in danger. He ran in the building and sheriffs had been waiting for at least 5 hours based on witness testimony. The program director came and shook hands with the officers, the supervisor yelled at me and put her finger in my face and said that he shouldn't have told the case manager that he had the rifle for his protection. He was taken by macomb sheriffs, who were very curteous to Kalamazoo, a 3 hour trip, one way and held for 3 weeks although there were no signs of mental defiecieny. There is no record of sheriffs picking him up and dropping him off. The supervisor didnt even put it in to a report. Since then, we have contacted every agency in the state for resolution to no evail. They even forced him to leave treatment a month later by cornering him in a room and demanding that he meet with them. They even sent him back to Kalamazoo for another five weeks with an order that was not signed by a judge and has typos and white out on an alleged court for. Numerous complaints have been written to recipient rights. But they say that we are paranoid and making things up. In essence, community mental health services in macomb should be privatized and they should cut some of the bad employees. No lawyer will take the civil case thus far. The end
Entity: Clinton township, Michigan
2, Report #19345
Apr 22 2002
06:00 PM
Warren County Mental Health Treat there Mentally Ill clients like we are worthless, Lebanon Ohio
The therapists at warren county mental health do not care about there clients. My therapist sat there and said i didn't want to get better that i wanted to be the way i was, she was like did you even brush your hair today? I have a bad enough self esteem and i didn't need her comments. I along with alot of there former clients feel that they are abusive and that they are all in this for the money. They don't care if we get better. cjb Lebanon, Ohio
Entity: Lebanon, Ohio
3, Report #1171843
Aug 23 2014
02:59 PM
Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Centers - Practiced Without a License and Overbilled Mequon Wisconsin
  I have been going to Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counsling Centers in Mequon WI to get prescibed Suboxzone. Suboxzone is a drug to fight off withdrawal effects fom opiates. I became addicted to pain killers following a bad car accident that caused me to have back surgery. During my first visit I as told I would be able to see a DR in a week but that I had to see a therapist every two weeks in order to see the DR every month and that I would also have to submit to urine testing on a regular basis. I gave my them my Insurance INFO and regretgiving them a credit card on file they asked for to make payments and co-payments more conveniently. After 2 visits with the DR and 2 visits with the therapist I had realized a credit card bill of over $1300. They never once submitted a claim to my INS. CO.....After I confronted them about this they told me my plan was not in network. Something they should have told me at my first visit. My out of pocket pay is only $1000 for OON providers. After explaining that they became defensive and said they would take care of it I decided to look up some online reviews of this place. It turns out my therapist who I seen outside the clinic smoking cigarettes and pacing upon me pulling into their drive way on both visits is the actual ownwr of the business. His name is Larry Kane. Furthermore the state of Wisconsin has filed injunctions against him twice. He has also been fined for false advertising for having M.D. signs outside his mequon office when there is not a licensed individual who works in that office. He lost his license to couensel but still continues to do so. He sends you to a DR. he works with 20 miles away after he provides you with his one on one therapy sesions Bi-wekly. All must one do is google Larry Kane in Mequon, and you will find this business is complete fraud. Once he gets your money its too late but if you owe the clinic anything need not worry. He will not sue you as he is providing illegal couesling and therapy services. It is amazing this guy is still allowed to run this business after all the complaints plus the legal action taken against him from the state....Unreal  
Entity: Mequon, Wisconsin
4, Report #1292503
Mar 08 2016
07:39 PM
Entity: Mequon, Wisconsin
5, Report #916950
Jul 24 2012
08:12 PM
Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Centers Inc WCMHCCI Prescribes Suboxone- bait and switch Mequon, Wisconsin
  Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Centers, Inc (WCMHCCI) based out of Mequon, WI is very unprofessional and prey on the sick in need of help. They don't care about your well-being just about the money. As long as you pay them cash up front they will give you the help you need. My husband was going through horrible withdrawals from painkillers prescribe to him after his multiple spine surgeries. On a Saturday he found a doctor on the SAMHSA website and he agreed to see him the next day, Sunday. He said to bring $350 and that our insurance would reimburse us even through they were out of the network. We drove over an hour one way. When we got there, no one was there, so we had to wait outside of a dark and closed building. Thought something wasn't right from the beginning. There weren't any employees in the building. He finally showed up and started us filling out paperwork and asked for the money. While my husband finished up the paperwork he had me run to the Walgreen's down the street to get the Suboxone which is to help with the withdrawals. The Suboxone was prescribed without seeing a doctor. The person we saw was not a doctor and not the doctor on the prescription. He is currently waiting to see another doctor that is closer to home and insurance will take care of most of it. That facility cannot prescribe him the suboxone until he sees their doctor. So how was he able to obtain the prescription on a Sunday without a doctor, but is unable to do so now? He gave me a card to cover the co-payment. First they wouldn't use the card because it was for strips and not the pills which was called in. The pharmacist called him and that got switched. Than the card wouldn't work because it has to be for 14 or more and it was only for 8. I just ended up paying the $25 co-payment. The guy promised to help us with the insurance company and call us on Monday. Just proves they don't know what they are doing and fill your head with lies just to get you in the door. We didn't hear anything from them, like their website states. So we ended up spending over an hour on the phone with the insurance company. They said that they wouldn't cover WCMHCCI, but if we could find one in the network they would cover it. After a few phone calls we found one in the network and closer to home but they couldn't get him in right away. We called WCMHCCI to see if they could refill the prescription until the doctors appointment. They had my husband drive to Fort Atkinson to sign release papers. After doing so then, Fort Atkinson Mental Health Center gladly faxed his appointment dates and times to see their doctor, on Aug 1st, like what was required. My husband then was told everything should be in order and there was no problem in re-prescribing his suboxone. But then they decided to change their minds and thought we needed to pay an additional $150.00 to schedule with their doctor, to get the prescription filled. He tried to make it sound as if we were getting a deal, because to see a doctor at their clinic it is $250.00. What makes them different from a street dealer? A license to dispense narcotics? It would be cheaper to relapse. When calling the office you can't speak to anyone higher than a receptionist even when asking for a manager. They put you on hold and come back with rehearsed answers. You could also here the shot caller whispering, and coaching the receptionist. We are not the first people this clinic has preyed upon, go to www.ripoffreport.com and www.bbb.com to view for yourself what you may expect when approaching this business for treatment. They don't even have a bbb rating and the rating listed due to that, is an F. But people still are filing complaint claims. He is back where he started with the withdrawals and we are out $350.00. We are not sure what kind of business they are trying to run. They take advantage of the ill and the weak.
Entity: Mequon, Wisconsin
6, Report #101634
Aug 01 2004
03:36 PM
Johnson County Mental Health Center ripoff Unresponsive and Unsupportive about Your File Mission Kansas
I am writing to support the complaint of the person who tells her story first. We have talked about it many times. I too went through sessions at the Joco Center. I got to say my own reasons for going weren't as bad but I completely understand and support her. But I can say the Center has been impossible to deal with when it comes to your file. You ask them to remove your file, you challenge them and they seem surprised you would ever think your permanent files are a bad thing and they talk to you like they're talking to a 6 year old and say everything is going to be ok. Obviously for my friend, it's not. How can their staff dismiss her problem so easily! Their only concern is about themselves. All I can think of is that they're afraid of getting sued and they don't want to risk getting caught in some lawsuit. They're supposed to help people for crying out loud and they've made things worse! At least give people who don't want their records permanent, let them opt out. Anon Kay Shawnee Mission, KansasU.S.A.
Entity: Mission, Kansas
7, Report #196595
Jun 15 2006
02:35 PM
Community Behavioral Health Services - CBHS Ripoff Does Not Honor Patient Confidentiality Page Arizona
My husband was recently arrested for DUI, before even being convicted of the crime he was court ordered to do an alcohol evaluation, intake and group counsling even though the counsler who did the evaluation said he is not a problem drinker. Several days later he was approched by a freind of ours who's mom works at CBHS. He knew that my husband had been arrested and knew several details of the incident that my husband discussed with the evaluator. My husband asked him how he knew of the incident because there were only a few people he had discussed it with. He informed my husband that his mom had told him about it, but he would never admit to anyone that she told him. This woman has absolutely nothing to do with my husbands case or treatment, I believe she works in the accounting department. We are not sure how she found out about the details in my husbands case, but either way it should never have left the counslers office much less goten out into the public. Michelle Page, ArizonaU.S.A.
Entity: Page, Arizona
8, Report #103754
Aug 15 2004
03:11 PM
Johnson County Kansas Mental Health Facility An additional story to be categorized as a complaint Mission Kansas
Thanks to those so far who have shared their stories. I'm a veteran who while not on active duty sought help from the Health Center over a disturbing episode with a perpetrator when I was just a teenager. Like others I was not informed of the ramifications governing my file. I understand that the Military branch that I was associated with would have access to my particular medical file if they so ordered. I was not informed or cautioned by the medical staff at the Health Center that military personnel could retrieve a copy of my file without my appropriate approval. It is clear to anyone who has had the honor to serve that certain officers or enlistees should not have access to these personal files. I am not aware that the military accessed my file, but I did not ever submit an inquiry to the Health Center. Nor did I re-enlist with the service, in part, because of the failure of the Health Center to fully inform me initially of the potential situation. Their actions have resulted in potentially as many problems for me after I came to understand the policy as when I first approached the professional staff with my original situation. Personnel Anonymous Shawnee, KansasU.S.A.
Entity: Mission, Kansas
9, Report #100474
Jul 30 2004
11:28 PM
Johnson County Mental Health Center Ripoff Kansas State Law and Record Keeping Mission Kansas
Rebuttal to Consumer Suggestion: A friend forwarded this site to me. I do not know the policy of the Johnson County Mental Health Center. However Kansas law is clear on permanent records. Kansas law indicates that each county mental health center determines its own policy regarding the permanency of records. There is presently no state law that requires a county mental health facility to keep records permanently. According to a government representative in Topeka, many if not most Kansas county mental health centers dispose of records from five to seven years. Many if not most do not hold mental health records permanently. Therefore, the power to affect policy change on permanent records lies with the Johnson County Mental Health Center. RTM Overland Park, KansasU.S.A.
Entity: Mission, Kansas
10, Report #782738
Sep 28 2011
11:28 PM
Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Centers Attempted Fraud, Lies and Deceptions Mequon, Wisconsin
I have Bipolar Disorder. I was trying to find a new psychiatrist since the one I had took a new position out of state. Since I live in a rural area in Walworth County Wisconsin there were no P-Doc's available in my area. Either they weren't accepting any new patients or they had moved to a different location which made it next to impossible to me to see them. I finally found Wisconsin Community Mental Health Counseling Centers, Inc. They had their main office in Mequon, Wisconsin but with branch offices in Whitewater, Wisconsin only about 15 minutes from where I live. OK! Great. I called and scheduled an appointment with a therapist. My goal was to be referred to one of their P-Doc's since my medications were running out and I needed new scripts written. That's when all the fun started. I saw my therapist about two or three times an told him that I really needed to see a psychiatrist since my meds were running out and I needed to get them refilled. Not a problem he said, we have psychiatrists you can see I will set it up for you. I thought that was great. A couple of days later I received a call from my therapist telling me it was all set; he gave me the time, date and location of where I was supposed to meet him which was in Hales Corners, Wisconsin. When I finally found the location it turned out to be a large office complex with many different offices. I finally found the office and was rather shocked when I discovered that the office was dark and locked. There were some chairs in the hallway and I sat down to wait. My appointment was for 1:00 p.m. I waited for almost and hour and no one appeared. I finally called my therapist and asked him what was going on. He replied: Didn't you call him to set up an appointment? I said: WHAT!! You told me it was all arranged. Besides, I said, you never gave me a phone number or said that I had to call and make my own appointment. Well, he said, he's not in on Thursdays. Wonderful, I thought, I left and went home.The following week I received a call from my therapist that he was sorry he made a mistake and would I like to schedule another appointment? Alright. So, another appointment was set, same time, same location. The day before my scheduled appointment I called their Mequon office to verify my appointment. Some fellow answered the phone and said yes, your appointment is arranged but don't forget to bring along your co-pay of $280.00. Again, WHAT??!! I said my co-pays were only $35.00. He said, well, you haven't made any of your other co-pays, therefore you still owe us $280.00. Needless to say, I was shocked and angry. I had all the receipts from all of my co-pays plus I had all of the statements from my insurance which stated that I had indeed made them. Next, I got a form in the mail from them that they wanted me to sign stating that I would not double bill my insurance or medicare. I am retired. Another, WHAT!!?? Never have I ever received a document from any doctor's office stating that I needed to sign a form just to insure that I wouldn't double bill. Finally, I filled my wife in on what was going on and she immediately got on the phone and called their main office. The same guy answered the phone. My wife said I would like to speak with the person in your billing department. May I ask whose calling? My wife said: what difference does it make who is calling; just let me speak to your billing department. He replied: I'm sorry, but unless you tell me who you are I cannot let you speak to anyone in our billing department. Next my wife said: Who is your manager? and he replied: Umm, I don't know. My wife said: you mean you work there and you don't know who your manager is? Ahh, no I don't. Skip ahead two weeks. Yesterday I get a phone call from my therapist saying they had not received the form they sent out and would I sign it and send it back. I said to him: what do you think I am stupid or something? Besides I said, after reviewing this document your organization was suppose to fill it out first which you never did and you expect me to sign a document and send it back? Then I said: Who needs to be on meds here you or me? At that point he said: well, I really haven't worked for them that long so I'm going to have to look into this, I will call you back tomorrow. I am writing this the day before he is suppose to call me back. Ah, hah, sure. End of story. I do not believe I have so say anything further.
Entity: Mequon, Wisconsin
11, Report #1139714
Apr 17 2014
03:25 PM
Macomb Community College Finanical Aid Department / Student Loans Warren Michigan
I applied for student loan on my FASFA application, and was approved. Once the loan application reached the Financial Aid Department at Macomb Community College they sent a notice to the FASFA changing my loan request. Once this information reach me I contacted the Macomb Community College Director Mr. Levy of Financial Aid. Mr Levy says it was a mistake and re-apply. I reapplied with Kellie Cantese in Financial Aid who decides if the student will receive a loan and the amount the student loan should be after your loan had already been approved by the Federal Goverment. Macomb Community College has been taking approved Student Loans away, and giving students what Macomb Financial Aid (Kellie Catanse) feels you should have. This needs to stop! I have went to Director Levy, Kellie Catanse, Micheal Williams, Micheal Ginsburg, Bobby Remias, and Cindy Ranger for the correction of my Student Loan no help. I ask to speak to the Presisdent of the college and Cindy Ranger said that would not happen he is to busy. I am asking all students that has had a problem with Macomb Community College and their Student Loan Request at this college to join me in correcting the procedure of their Financial Aid office and Kellie Catanse from deciding what a student can have for their student loan. I would also like to add the bookstore at Macomb Community College is highly over priced in sales of their books they recommend students rent books at a slightly lower price. I t is not much difference in the price of renting or buying books. Macomb Community College is ripping their students off. I need help in fighting this school and the policy they have in place for student loans and cost of books! Thank you
Entity: Warren, Michigan
12, Report #109411
Sep 21 2004
10:12 AM
Warren County Mental Health & Recovery Services' caseworkers and therapists are indifferent. Rip-off! Lebanon Ohio
It takes sometimes a week to get a return phone call from a caseworker/therapist. The receptionist is rude when you've called the wrong building. My caseworker is indifferent to my problem. My therapist mostly just stares at me waiting for me to say something - when you are confused about everything you don't know what to say. My doctor there seems to be OK but to get to him you have to go either through a therapist or caseworker. I will amend this at a later time. Lost Lebanon, OhioU.S.A.
Entity: Lebanon, Ohio
13, Report #801423
Nov 24 2011
06:21 AM
Macomb County FOC Macomb County FOC unfair in Divorce and Child Support cases Mt. Clemens, Michigan
I want to say first that Michigan's election to be a no-fault state is a complete and utter COP-OUT!!! I was married for near 19 years and in that time had three children with a woman who has no regard for the law. She was arrested 3 times for shoplifting and nearly deported from the second offense. In all we spent thousands of dollars on attorneys and court fees to keep her out of jail, or here in the country for that matter. I looked past the first two incidents, but the third put me over the top. I just couldn't deal with it any longer.Upon retaining my lawyer she preached of status quo and how I had to pay this and that. How I had to leave all of my things or the courts would force me to return them. My first order forced me to pay every household bill, every medical bill, and also provide $500 per month to her while she collected unemployment. She told my kids that I left and took all of the money and that I was cheating. I never cheated in the 21 years we were together, but thinking back I wish I had because maybe I'd feel better about what was yet to come. We started arguing in front of my kids, and I vowed that I wouldn't let them see that. I left and grabbed a few things. Had I not taken those few things I wouldn't have anything. Once the divorce proceedings were over I was left with a torn up upside down house, a stack of medical bills, and an order to pay child support in the amount of $762/ mo. For a child I don't see. I had received none of my possessions that were requested by my lawyer.I went back to court for visitation and on the day of the hearing, she did not attend. That didn't matter because she had more of a voice than I did. The referee asked me what the change in status was? I told her that there wasn't any. I was ordered the reasonable visitation which is too vague for them to make a ruling. I am beginning to see that I don't have a voice at this point. The Macomb County FOC is color blind, and only sees what the orders say. I have lost everything, most recently my home because I was laid off and she enforce the order to shortsell the property. I can only hope that once the property is gone that she will be it of my life so I can live in peace. I don't have a relationship with my children because has alienated them. I can only pray for something to break where maybe, just maybe the kids will see that she is using them against me.
Entity: Mt. Clemens, Michigan
14, Report #640265
Sep 13 2010
06:12 PM
Macomb County FOC Macomb County FOC wont listen to one word i have to say regarding my Children. Mt Clemens , Michigan
Macomb county FOC is a joke. My Ex- Wife is making me look foolish in court by contesting against my (joint and  physical) custody motions and the court wont listen to one word i have to say.  I have complaints but when i try to enforce it they give me the run arounds. But if she files a motion or complaint they listen. She is a bad mother who leaves my children alone for days at a time with no food to go out partying, and when i try to address the issue i get blown off like i dont have any say.  I pay over $800 a month in support to This woman and i never see anything productive being done with the money. She sends them with me looking like no one loves them just so i have to buy new clothes and shoes, but the FOC takes 51% of my earnings so im barley able to live and its really difficult to maintain a healthy relationship with my children My 9 year old son wants to stay with me but the courts wont even investigate before deciding what living arrangments is suitable for them. My son doesnt even have a bed but do you think they care..? He sleeps on the couch. I wanna call protective services for children but it ll just depress the children even more. Why go through all the BS when they have a father who is willing to take the whole resonsibility rather than use the kids to work the system for welfare and child support. I have rediculous arreareges even though its so difficult to find a good job. I just wanna give up and let the judges and politicians who make these laws deal wit these kids that become menaces because their not being taught anything..FOC is not good for me and my family. Its WRONG..!! LETTING THE MOTHER USE AND ABUSE THE SYSTEM.  
Entity: Mt Clemens, Michigan
15, Report #1265613
Nov 04 2015
10:44 AM
Community Rehab Overcharged- lied to- it is 100% a scam Orange California
The marketing person will start off with lying to you about how everything works and the ammenities that this facility has.  The website looks great but don't be fooled. The house that I lived in had broken windows, doors, electric problems.  My actual bed was no more than a folded gym mat. The closet doors wouldn't work, nor would the door to the rooms. They promise a personal chef- it is a tech who sometimes can't cook.  My housemates and I did most of the cooking, to improve the meal quality.  We would even go as far to walk to the grocery store to buy better quality food.  The menu was horrible and had no nutrional value. They promise a gym.  I was able to go a couple of times in 60 days.  The gym is not onsite.  They have a membership at a gym and you will have to get someone to take you.  People were using heroin and nodding out on outings.  People were ordering pot from Craig's List as well as heroin.  People were sneaking alcohol in regularly or drinking on outings.  Nothing was done - they finally kicked one person out for selling pot and against their own rules paid for his ticket home.  Everyone I know from there has replased while in Community Rehab or directly after leaving.  The don't take vitals, they don't have nurses, they do drug screens sometimes and it doesn't matter if you fail because you have been using while there.  They will charge your insurance for regular drug tests- and it will be 1400. They don't have tv's in the rooms - after the detox house. It is a poorly ran facility.  They ripped off my insurance company.  I paid them the money owed and they sent me to collections for non paymet.  I have already proved payment was made.  They didn't even send a bill to the collection agency.  If you have bad insurance- your bill will be $10K or $20K.  If you are fortunate enough to have good insurance, your bill be 82K as mine was for the exact same services. I would go a week at a time without a one on one with the therapists.  Complaints were not addressed and a windo with all of the glass busted out of it was fixed with card board by the residents.  Do yourself a favor a find a better place!  
Entity: Orange, California
16, Report #219012
Nov 03 2006
05:13 PM
Macomb County Court, Oakland County Court Breaking Rules And Laws MT. Clemens, Pontiac Michigan
Im Just Curious and a bit Flustered, Left wondering how Courts are allowed to do so many things wrong and against not only laws but moral and logical rules.. I have a case where the mother of the children was removed from her rights and they Oakland county removed them, now thats fine being i have reported her for more then just neglect but federal fraud as well.. but they just blew it off even tho they admitted in a court that they knew about it.. but after doing so they never contacted me until the final court hearing for custody.. they were placed in tempory custody with the parents of the mother, in which she sees them when ever she chooses even tho shes not suppose to. but to top that off the mother works at Macomb county court, and does all the paper work for them. not that that should be a problem but they are trying to get me to pay an outragious child support that for one i have already sent in my income information and they know im on state aid.. thus should not be over 50k for a 6 yr old child.. but as im wondering how can a court try and make a case where they have someone whom is involved in the hearings working right at the desk were all the papers go threw? thats not suppose to happen.. not to mention the only reason she would be pushing that now is she has another case with me in oakland for the custody of my child.. in michigan the grandparents have no rights, and not only is oakland not right for not informing me of my childs well being, but they and macomb are notlooking at the misuse and wrongful use of a court.. what are my best options? Michael river rouge, MichiganU.S.A. CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Entity: MT. Clemens, Michigan
17, Report #983673
Dec 18 2012
08:03 AM
Havenwyck Hospital Antrim County Probate Court, Judge Norman Hayes,Nicole Little,US District Court Judge Robert Jonker, North Country Community Mental Health State Sanctioned Sexual Torture, Havenwyck Hospital Auburn Hills, Michigan
I filmed a segement for a documentary and I have put the link below.Since Judge Jonker threw out our case Antrim County has come after me for more than $12,000 they say I owe to the State Child Care Fund. I do not feel that I owe this money since it has been proven that my son's rights were violated. Also, they were cooking the books, giving me credit for payments that I did not make and the balance they claim that I owe is all over the place. Please assist me in getting a forensic audit. Something really stinks in Bellaire. They have threatened me with incarceration if I don't pay up. Please help me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsBB8cYyepE A local paper told our story and a sex offender website also printed my email to them. http://www.northernexpress.com/michigan/article-3809-branded-for-life.html Branded for Life Anne Stanton  3/23/09 This is the last in a series of articles on sex offenders. This week, the Express focuses on the sex offender registry, which publicly lists convicted sex offenders on the Internet. -------------------------------------------------- Jim is not proud of the fact that five years ago he inappropriately touched his cousin on the outside of her underwear. He had just turned 10 and his cousin was 11. He then threatened to kill her if she told anyone. His cousin was deeply upset by the experience and still refuses to talk to him. He doesnt blame her. Yet Jim, 15, -- whose name has been changed for this article -- has decided to talk publicly about the crime because he was in the fourth grade when it happened. When he turns 18, his name will appear on the public sex offender registry for the rest of his life. The sex offender registry does not reflect when a sex crime was committed.  So anyone looking at this when Im an adult will think I was a pervert adult having sex with an 11-year-old, he said. His case is extreme, but here is the reality for all juveniles: if a youth is convicted or pleads to criminal sexual assault in the first or second degree, he or she will end up on the public sex offender registry list for 25 years, or even for life long after the youth has completed probation or served his or her sentence. If convicted of a lesser sex offense, the juvenile will be on a sex offender registry that is not public, but available to police and other authorities. The judge has no choice. The sex offender registry is mandatory for all ages. RAMIFICATIONS        The consequences for Jim is grave. A convicted sex offender is not allowed to adopt children. He cannot be involved in his childrens school or extracurricular activities. A juvenile convicted of a sex crime is not allowed to participate on a school sports team. He must notify college officials if hes on a sex registry, jeopardizing his chance of getting into the college. Sex offenders are often denied entrance into the military. A registered sex offender cannot become a police officer, teacher, coach, or work with children. Some employers would naturally feel uncomfortable hiring a registered sex offender. Neighbors definitely dont feel good about having a sex offender living on their street. If a sex offender fails to register, he can be imprisoned for a felony. Yet a sex offender might have been guilty of a Romeo and Juliet affair in which both partners consensually had sex, but were under the legal age of consent, which is 16. In one survey, nearly 40 percent of Michigan tenth graders said they had sexual intercourse for the first time before age 16. That statistic was included in a 2007 Michigan Youth Risk Behavior Survey in which students voluntarily and anonymously answered survey questions. So given that consensual albeit illegal,  sexual activity is fairly common, prosecution is actually rare. It depends on two things: the zeal of the county prosecutor and whether a parent wants to pursue prosecution. The problem is were  lumping all the kids with the worst of the worst sex offenders, said Traverse City attorney Jim Aprea, who frequently defends juveniles. The public doesnt know what theyre looking at when they call up the states sex offender website. It describes the conviction, but certainly not the circumstances or the age of the offender when it was committed. This kid (Jim) will show up on the registry for his entire lifetime for something he did when he was 10 years old. Thats just absurd. I havent seen a case like this involving a kid that young. I just havent seen it, and the whole thing troubles me. It might be a good test casea challenge all the way to the Supreme Court on the sex offender registration. To me, the facts are outrageous and this poor kid is a prime example of the inequities in the statute. JIMS STORY Jim transfered to a new school where he now gets good grades, studies cello, performs in plays, and has a lot of friends. He has a close relationship with his mom and holds a steady job at a restaurant. But life wasnt always this good. Although he was intelligent, learning how to read at the age of four, he was also lonely, angry and often violent. Jim got a rough start in life. His mother Sandy (not her real name) said she was a serious alcoholic who fought bitterly and often with her sons father. One afternoon, she drove her station wagon into him, squishing his leg between her car and an old Malibu. Sandy went to jail and rehab over a period of seven months. Meanwhile, Jim, who was two-and-a-half years old, stayed with his dad. When Sandy finally collected him, he stood filthy in the driveway with a few clothes shoved into a garbage bag. Jim never saw his dad again. Jim said his memory of that time is fuzzy, but he remembers being scared all the time.  He had a bunch of drinking buddies, and theyd get really drunk on the weekends and thought it would be a good idea to mess with all four of us (Jim and his three stepsisters) in another room. Sandy became alarmed by his discussion of sex acts, so she took him to Child Protective Services. The CPS worker was afraid an exam would traumatize the three-year-old. He received counseling at the Northwest Child Guidance Center until the age of six, but then funding for therapy was cut off without explanation. When he was in kindergarten, he played doctor with the other kids. Later in grade school, nobody wanted him in the Boy Scout troop. He touched a boy on an overnight stay. Child Protective Services workers came into the school to talk to him, but Sandy said she didnt learn the specific complaints until much later. The mother of the abused cousin, said that her sister, Sandy, never drank again after rehab in 1995: If she would have drank, she would have been as big a mess as before. But Sandys past has haunted her when it comes to how authorities treat her. Indeed Sandy is a fireplug, and doesnt mince words. Her conversation is often hard to track because she goes off on tangents. Although shes never broken the law since her assault with a car, Sandy fears that people havent treated her son very well because of her own past. THE PLEA Jim was 10 1/2 when he touched his 11-year-old cousin. The girl didnt tell her mother until seven months later, when it was reported immediately to the police chief who had been mentoring Jim. Jim was questioned by police without an attorney (not uncommon in these cases). He eventually admitted what hed done. The case went to Antrim County Assistant Prosecutor Mark Fett, who charged Jim with a criminal sexual conduct, second degree (CSC 2). Its the second highest sex offense and was due to the victims age and the threat of violence. Sandy met briefly with Fett, but  most of her conversations were with the court administrator William Hefferan. She claims that he never told her that a guilty plea would mean that Jim would go on the public sex offender registry. Hefferan said he cant remember whether he told her that or not. I cant assure that every time someone pleads to a CSC, I tell them this is a 25-year registerable offense, Hefferan said. The sex registry was not cited in the plea agreement but was included in the ajudication (Jims sentence). Sandy missed it. Sandy quickly agreed to the plea to CSC two without a lawyer. She remembers being told that a plea would expedite the process, which was important to her. She couldnt have her younger child reinstated in her home until her son was removed. Secondly, she believed a plea was the only way to get her son state-funded counseling and residential treatment, which she could not afford. (She still owes $12,038 to the county). VICTIMIZED But the plea bargain was no bargain, Aprea said. Most prosecutors want to achieve relative justice without a trial. But theres nothing worse than a charge of CSC one or two. In this case, the boy pled exactly to what he was charged with. Yes, he made a threat, but a threat coming from a 10-year-old is a lot different than a threat coming from a 15-year-old or an adult. That kid was victimized by the system. Immediately after Sandy signed the adjudication papers in April of 2004,  Jim, 11, was taken to a lockdown wing at the Muskegon River Youth Home where he was given an orange uniform to wear. A juvenile justice worker visited him and told him that if he didnt hurry up and finish treatment he would be sent to Wackenhut (a youth prison), where, he said, a group of boys dragged another boy into a room and sodomized him until his rectum fell out and he bled to death. Jim was shaken, hearing about sodomy for the first time. He stayed in Muskegon until August, when a space opened up at Havenwyck Psychiatric Hospital in Auburn Hills for which the minimum age was 11. He began a sexual aversion therapy, which involved sniffing three ammonia pills after listening to a story of a deviant sex act. NO PLACE FOR A CHILD Jim said he has mixed feelings about his treatment. He felt that without intervention he might have become a serial molester. Now a very articulate and pleasant young man, he feels like a success case. But he believes that Havenwyck is no place for a child. He attended group therapy sessions with men who were as old as 19. If you werent bad, youd know how to be bad now. I worked hard to reach the top level in my treatment. I really wanted out of there, he said. They smash you down to nothing and then you rebuild yourself. It gets rid of a lot of negative behavior, but it gets rid of everything. I was an empty shell. After I got out, I had no social skills,  Jim said. For two years, I wasnt allowed to talk to girls. When I got out, my age group was largely different than me. I cried a lot. When I got back to high school, I was treated like a sex offender even though Id just gone through one-and-a-half years of treatment.  I wasnt allowed to participate in gym or use the bathroom. They wanted me to use the teachers bathroom, and I didnt want to be embarrassed, so I just held it all day. The same kids who picked on him before picked on him again, so he transferred to his current school. The group of kids at the new school is small; they know his history and respect him; so Jim, who recently broke up with his girlfriend, said he believes this article wont affect their opinion of him. BAD NEWS Jim was home for nine days in January of 2006, when the juvenile justice worker called to inform Sandy that she had only until the next day to get her son registered as a sex offender. This was the first Id heard of such a thing. When I questioned her, she said that she could tell the judge, Oops, my bad! but it probably wouldnt do Jim any good. Sandy thought she had to only register her son once. That is until May of 2007, when the Michigan State Police showed up at the house and said hed have to register quarterly. They took his prints on the trunk of a police cruiser while kids, across the street, were in a football practice. We live across the street from the school and they were broadcasting Jims name and our address on the scanner. Were contacting Jim  for his failure to register as a sex offender. Everyone with a scanner knows now, Sandy said. Since then, Sandy has confronted the reality of the sex offender registry. The law regarding juveniles is so vague, it was hard for the Express to get clear-cut answers to such questions from professionals: How long will Jim remain on the sex offender registry after becoming an adult (conflicting answers of 25 years and lifetime)? Even if Jim had the crime expunged, does he still have to register on the sex offender registry (yes, but its a start)? How often does he have to register as a juvenile (conflicting answers)? When Sandy called assistant prosecutor Mark Fett with questions, she says he screamed at her -- Im telling you now. Register your kid! -- and slammed down the phone. Fett did not return a call for comment. Is There a Better Way? Michigan has the third largest sex offender registry in the nationat least it did in 2004 when there were 33,000 people. Today there are 43,964. The registrys growth might falsely indicate to people outside of the state that Michigan is teeming with child molesters and rapists . , reads a 2004 legislative analysis of a bill written by Julie Koval. Some other states take a more nuanced approach to sex offender registration, and do not require juveniles under a certain age to register, and others do not require that juveniles register at all. When working with juvenile sex offenders, the focus should be on rehabilitation to help them stop their abusive behaviors. Adolescence is often a difficult time for many young people; publicly labeling them as dangerous criminals can have devastating effects as they try to develop their identities, she wrote. Professionals specializing in the fieldcounselors Barb Cross and John Ulrich to Todd Heller, a computer cop who snags sex offenders, and Noelle Moeggenberg who prosecutes them, all agree:  A judge needs discretion on whether to put a juvenile on a public sex offender registry. I never take any sexual offense lightly, however, 10-year-old children can and do engage in youthful experimentation, exploring their own bodies and the bodies of their playmates. Its not acceptable, but its far, far different than predatory behavior, said Kenneth Tacoma, chief probate and family division judge of the 28th circuit court in Wexford County. A DIFFERENCE Therapist Barb Cross said theres a lot of difference between a one-time offender versus a teenage boy who molests multiple times. These two should not be treated the same. The way the system is set up, the prosecutornot the judgedetermines a childs fate, Tacoma said. Kalkaska County Prosecutor Brian Donnelly said there might be room for discretion within narrow confines, but he believes the public sex offender registry makes sense. Im a believer that once this kid has demonstrated hes capable of this, we place him in a different class as the rest of us. Harsh as it may be, I like the system. We as a society have already discovered that its very dangerous not to know when a sex offender is moving about us. Theres not much worse than talking to parents of a kid who was molested by a kid. Ive been in that position. The look of shock and horror and disbelief on the faces of parents when they find this out.  What? This kid who moved in next door, this kid who is a babysitter, and now my little junior must have years of therapy. The thing Ive come to realize about sex offenders, particularly those who molest children is they are, by nature, liars. They carry on for years unknown. They masquerade as normal people and pull it off. Theyre good at fooling everybody. Thats a common characteristic. And thats how they gain opportunity with kids. Professionals point out that if you sexually abuse someone as a child, chances are very high that you yourself were abused. But what society doesnt know is, if you were sexually abused as a child, what is the chance that you will go onto abuse someone? One study followed convicted juveniles for five years, and discovered a very low percentage of the kids were convicted of another crime. But critics say that five years wasnt long enough. John Ulrich, a counselor who treats sex offenders, said that a new problem has cropped up with the sex offender registry; some parents have become reluctant to get counseling for their kids. Thats because a therapist is mandated to report any sexually illegal behavior to police; a conviction could mean a permanent place on a public or private sex offender registry. In the past, Ive persuaded people to take CSC convictions to get their child into residential treatment. It was a standard in the field to do it. Would you do it now? Im grieved that its a problem that we have to make our children registered sex offenders in order to get help. Im much more aware of the lifelong impact on the child. But on the other hand, their risk of being convicted of another sex offense more than doubles if they dont get treatment. HOPE FOR JIM? Does Jim, the ten-year-old convicted of a CSC two have any way of getting off the public sex offender registry? His mom, Sandy, has told her story to anyone who would listen: the ACLU, the state attorney general, the governor, attorneys, and media. She gets legal advice from an online free service called e-advocate. Sandy furiously objected to her sons confinement at Havenwyck Psychiatric Hospital, believing kids shouldnt mingle with older youth and adults. She believes her son needed therapy, but was, in fact, tortured with ammonia pills that burn nostrils and cause nosebleeds. She notes that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush deemed the use of ammonia capsules to be torture and signed a bill banning its use by juveniles. She alleged that North Country Community Mental Health, which oversaw his treatment, failed to ensure that the assigned treatment suited her sons condition.  Her allegation was substantiated, and the agency amended its procedures in July of 2008. But what about the sex offender registry? A juvenile can petition the court to shorten the registry period, but the defendant must have been between the ages of 13 and 17 when it happened, and there cannot be more than a three year age spread than the victim and offender, Traverse City attorney Jim Aprea said. Since Jim was 10, he is not eligible. Aprea recommended that Sandy go to a state appellate defender, who might take on the case. Jim could petition the court to vacate the conviction based on the fact he didnt know the full ramifications of his admission to guilt, he said. There are a lot of steps, it would take a lot of work. The odds of achieving the desired results are fairly low. But theres a lot at stake, Aprea said. The mother of the girl who was touched, said that what Jim did was wrong and unacceptable; her daughter still wants an apology. But she also believes that Jim should not be on the public sex offender registry for life. He was 10 years old and he needed help. He wasnt given help; he was punished. I dont think juveniles should be placed in the same sex offender registry as adults. The whole thing needs to be revamped, said the mom. OperationAwareness: Havenwyck Hospital program for youth sexual devianceIn this article posted to operationawareness.com a mother writes about her  ten year old son who was sent to Havenwyck Hospital in Michigan State to undergo  involuntary treatment for sexual abuse and sexual deviance. This information is  substantiated by the PSI website maintained for the hospital itself: http://www.psysolutions.com/facilities/havenwyck/impulse.htmlHavenwycks Impulse Disorder Program is a 26-bed licensed and secured   residential program specifically designed for children and adolescents ages   11-17, with emotional and/or behavioral sex offending symptoms, which require   them to be in a secure 24-hour supervised therapeutic sex offending   setting.Children and adolescents in the Impulse Disorder Program have been unable   to function successfully at home, in school and in their social relationships.   They are accepted into the program to develop a deeper understanding of   themselves, their families, their sex offending problems; and to develop more   healthy and adaptive behaviors. The youngsters attend Havenwycks state   approved on-ground school.The unique design of the residential program provides the most current   state-of-the-art sex offender treatment techniques including; cognitive   restructuring, relapse prevention, and covert desensitization therapies, as   well as other innovative approaches.Our objectives are to:Provide sex offender treatment resulting in freedom from sexual deviant     behaviorsExamine and modify patterns of deviant sexual arousalDevelop victim empathy and remorse for their actionsDevelop an understanding of sexual offending as a mood-altering     behaviorEstablish more positive anger management techniquesDevelop more social relationships skillsAssist the families in being vehicles for changeDischarge the individual to the least restrictive environment or home as     soon as possibleThe program facilitates a multi-disciplinary intensive sex offender   treatment program which includes individual, group, psychopharmacology, family   and activity therapies; as well as a variety of multi-disciplinary and   substance abuse groups.Eligibility RequirementsChildren & Adolescents 11-17 years of ageDisplaying sexually deviant behaviorsSex offending behavior is beyond the scope of outpatient treatmentAdjudicated or non-adjudicated requiring a secure locked  unithttp://www.operationawareness.com/about_1_child.htmlFROM VICTIM TO PERPETRATOR TO VICTIM WHY PREVENTION AND REAL  TREATMENT SHOULD BE AMERICAS FIRST PRIORITY TO STOP THE CYCLE AND END  ABUSE.This is an e-mail we received from a Mother living in Michigan. Only their  names have been changed to protect their identities. Their story is a classic  example of why the system is failing us all.Im writing to you regarding a situation involving my now 14 year old son,  Ben. He was sexually abused at a young age and I had voluntarily placed him in  treatment at age four because he was emotionally impaired as a result.He also spent nine years in special education due to this impairment. This  went well until his treatment was sabotaged by the CPS. This is important  because the CPS built a case against my child over several years following this  treatment.Ben apparently was acting out sexually in the community and it was reported  to the CPS.Rather than notify me, Ben was repeatedly pulled from class and interrogated  by the CPS. Since Ben was the one accused of wrongdoing, shouldnt there have  been a parent or attorney present?In 2003 Ben touched his cousin through her underwear and threatened to kill  her if she told anyone. Ben was barely 10 and my niece was 11. We didnt find  out about it until January 2004 and immediately sought counseling for Ben.The juvenile justice/ CPS worker and the prosecutor told us that in order for  the court to pay for the treatment, Ben would have to plead guilty to Second  Degree CSC. They assured us that Bens record would be expunged when he turned  18 if he successfully completed treatment and stayed out of trouble. They also  told us that it wasnt necessary for Ben to have an attorney - we could have one - but it would only drag it out even longer.Bens fingerprints, mug shot and DNA were taken.As soon as Ben pled guilty, he was locked up in juvenile detention for four  months before being sent to Havenwyck Psychiatric Hospital in Auburn Hills for  17 more months.Havenwyck is a private hospital owned by Psychiatric Solutions Inc.Medicaid wouldnt pay for this treatment so Antrim County DHS, Probate Court  and Community mental health picked up the tab. They made me pay child support  and billed me weekly.Ben was threatened by the juvenile justice worker that if he didnt hurry up  and finish treatment he would be sent to juvenile detention. She then felt the  need to share with Ben that she used to be employed by Wackenhut and while  working there, a group of boys dragged another boy into a room and sodomized him  until his rectum fell out and he bled to death.Treatment at Havenwyck involves torture and experimental behavior  modification techniques.Covert Taping - Ben was made to write a healthy script and a deviant script.  These he read aloud into a tape recorder. When he became aroused, he had to  break open an ammonia capsule and inhale deeply. Staff members listened to these  tapes to make sure that he choked. That meant that he was doing it properly. Ben  suffered horrible nosebleeds for months after he came home.Plethysmographs - This is a test where the older boys were taken out of the  facility. A ring with sensors is placed over the boys penis and they are shown  sexually graphic material. Ben was too young to do this, but went out of the  facility with two other boys and a staff member to act as chaperone.This was necessary because a staff member named Mr. Ari was accused by a gay  black boy of engaging in oral and anal sex with him in the bathroom of the  facility where they do the plethysmographs.This happened before Ben got to Havenwyck, yet Ben met Mr. Ari. That was  because he was still working on the unit. He was transferred to another unit and  eventually let go, but as far as Ben knows this was never investigated by the  state.Most of the boys in Havenwyck are wards of the state. Since Medicaid wont  pay for this, who is paying who?Ben successfully completed treatment in January 2004. He was home for nine  days when the juvenile justice worker called to inform me that Ben had to  register as a sex offender by the next day or hed be in trouble.This was the first time we were informed that Ben would have to do this.  Otherwise we would have had an attorney and never would have agreed to their  deal.We complied and tried to get on with our lives. There was never any  documentation regarding the rules that Ben is supposed to follow.The day that Florida Governor Jeb Bush deemed ammonia capsules to be torture,  Ben was released from his strict probation without a hearing. The court order  said nothing about him having to register quarterly for the rest of his life. We have been trying to pick up the pieces and go on.However on May 17, 2007 the state police showed up at our home and apprehended Ben for failing to register quarterly since he came home more than  a year earlier. The state trooper was confused by all of this and believed me when I told him  that that was the first that Id heard that Ben had to register. I have no  documentation from Antrim County regarding the rules Ben is supposed to  follow.According to the paperwork the trooper showed me, Bens DNA isnt on file.  Antrim County took a cheek swab, so where is my childs DNA?There was also confusion as to why my son was sentenced so harshly.The only  thing the trooper could think of was the fact that my niece was under the age of  13. She was 11 and Ben was 10 at the time of the incident.The trooper then proceeded to take Bens palm prints on the trunk of his car  in front of everyone. We live by the school and there was much traffic that day.  He also went over the radio with Bens name, our address and failure to register  CSC. Great .Even though Ben is only 14, he seems to have forfeited his right to  privacy.The trooper said he was going to write and fax his report to Antrim County  that day because he wanted to clear up the confusion about the matter.I waited for several weeks for Antrim County to contact me. We only had until  July 15 to get him registered. When I didnt hear from them, I called the  trooper. He said that he specifically attached a memo for them to contact me as  soon as possible.He called Antrim County and they told him that prosecutor Mark Fett was going  to look into this and would call me. He did, and I tried to ask him questions as  to how and why this happened and how we were supposed to comply if we arent  told what to do. He also told me that Antrim County decided not to press  charges.I asked about appealing my sons conviction and he informed me that I would  have to hire my own attorney. Unfortunately I cant afford one.Because I questioned this matter, Mr. Fett got very angry with me and he  screamed at me, Im telling you now-Register your kid! He then slammed the  phone down in my ear.I wanted Ben to be charged because we then could have had an attorney look at  his case.From what I have been able to figure out, Ben is subject to the Adam Walsh  Act of 2007.Since he committed his offense in 2003 at age 10, I dont understand how this  can possibly pertain to him. My father is a convicted sex offender, yet he  doesnt have to register because his crime was committed before there was a sex  offender registry.I feel that the CPS was building a case against Ben for years since his past  behavior was a deciding factor in the decision to prosecute rather than help the  kid.My main questions are as follows :1. Havenwyck was the only facility that would even take Ben because he was so  young (barely 11) . Why was he sent there, especially since it is experimental?  Bens therapist made reference to Pavlovs dogs in open court and stated that  the program had been in existence for less than 10 years.2. Since the California Court of Appeals ruled last year that plethysmographs  are Orwellian in nature, why are they using them on children who are wards of  the state? 3. Why was Ben questioned repeatedly by the CPS without a parent or lawyer  present while an elementary school student, then charged with a crime at a later  date?4. Is it legal to use ammonia capsules on children?5. Why did the judge allow us to proceed without an attorney when there was  going to be lifelong repercussions? Its not fair that my childs life is ruined  because I made a bad decision.Time is running out for us. We only have three years to file suit in Michigan  and its already been more than 2 years. Are there any attorneys willing to take  cases if the state is involved?Ben never recieved the help he needed for being a victim of sexual abuse.  Instead he was treated like some kind of monster and had his life ruined by  people who should be helping kids.Special thanks to W for allowing us to share her story. Unfortunately,  their story is one that gets repeated over and over again in this country. When  parents try and do the right thing and get their children help they find out  that theirs and their childs life is forever turned upside down and the child  NEVER gets the help he or she needs. So, the cycle continues and many lives  needlessly get destroyed in the process.operationawareness.com 2008 powered byCustom Search ControlWeb   Home    Advertise    Editorial    Listings    Hot  Dates    Contact  Us    About  Us    Send a Press  Release Editorials Features   I   Letters   I   Dining   I   Music   I   Random       Thoughts   I   Other       Opinions   I   Region       Watch   I   Books   I   Art   I   Modern       Rock an Other Links Northern       Seen   I   Movies   I   TV   I   Weather   I   Business       News   I   ESPN.com Branded for life Anne Stanton Branded for Life Anne             Stanton 3/23/09 This is the last in a series of articles on             sex offenders. This week, the Express focuses on the sex offender             registry, which publicly lists convicted sex offenders on the             Internet. -------------------------------------------------- Jim             is not proud of the fact that five years ago he inappropriately             touched his cousin on the outside of her underwear. He had just             turned 10 and his cousin was 11. He then threatened to kill her if             she told anyone. His cousin was deeply upset by the experience             and still refuses to talk to him. He doesnt blame her. Yet Jim,             15, -- whose name has been changed for this article -- has decided             to talk publicly about the crime because he was in the fourth grade             when it happened. When he turns 18, his name will appear on the             public sex offender registry for the rest of his life. The sex             offender registry does not reflect when a sex crime was committed.             So anyone looking at this when Im an adult will think I was a             pervert adult having sex with an 11-year-old, he said. His case             is extreme, but here is the reality for all juveniles: if a youth is             convicted or pleads to criminal sexual assault in the first or             second degree, he or she will end up on the public sex offender             registry list for 25 years, or even for life long after the youth             has completed probation or served his or her sentence. If             convicted of a lesser sex offense, the juvenile will be on a sex             offender registry that is not public, but available to police and             other authorities. The judge has no choice. The sex offender             registry is mandatory for all ages. RAMIFICATIONS The             consequences for Jim is grave. A convicted sex offender is not             allowed to adopt children. He cannot be involved in his childrens             school or extracurricular activities. A juvenile convicted of a             sex crime is not allowed to participate on a school sports team. He             must notify college officials if hes on a sex registry,             jeopardizing his chance of getting into the college. Sex offenders             are often denied entrance into the military. A registered sex             offender cannot become a police officer, teacher, coach, or work             with children. Some employers would naturally feel uncomfortable             hiring a registered sex offender. Neighbors definitely dont feel             good about having a sex offender living on their street. If a sex             offender fails to register, he can be imprisoned for a felony.             Yet a sex offender might have been guilty of a Romeo and             Juliet affair in which both partners consensually had sex, but were             under the legal age of consent, which is 16. In one survey, nearly             40 percent of Michigan tenth graders said they had sexual             intercourse for the first time before age 16. That statistic was             included in a 2007 Michigan Youth Risk Behavior Survey in which             students voluntarily and anonymously answered survey questions.             So given that consensual albeit illegal, sexual activity is             fairly common, prosecution is actually rare. It depends on two             things: the zeal of the county prosecutor and whether a parent wants             to pursue prosecution. The problem is were lumping all the kids             with the worst of the worst sex offenders, said Traverse City             attorney Jim Aprea, who frequently defends juveniles. The public             doesnt know what theyre looking at when they call up the states             sex offender website. It describes the conviction, but certainly not             the circumstances or the age of the offender when it was committed.             This kid (Jim) will show up on the registry for his entire             lifetime for something he did when he was 10 years old. Thats just             absurd. I havent seen a case like this involving a kid that young.             I just havent seen it, and the whole thing troubles me. It might be             a good test casea challenge all the way to the Supreme Court on the             sex offender registration. To me, the facts are outrageous and this             poor kid is a prime example of the inequities in the             statute. JIMS STORY Jim transfered to a new school where             he now gets good grades, studies cello, performs in plays, and has a             lot of friends. He has a close relationship with his mom and holds a             steady job at a restaurant. But life wasnt always this good.             Although he was intelligent, learning how to read at the age of             four, he was also lonely, angry and often violent. Jim got a             rough start in life. His mother Sandy (not her real name) said she             was a serious alcoholic who fought bitterly and often with her sons             father. One afternoon, she drove her station wagon into him,             squishing his leg between her car and an old Malibu. Sandy went to             jail and rehab over a period of seven months. Meanwhile, Jim, who             was two-and-a-half years old, stayed with his dad. When Sandy             finally collected him, he stood filthy in the driveway with a few             clothes shoved into a garbage bag. Jim never saw his dad             again. Jim said his memory of that time is fuzzy, but he             remembers being scared all the time. He had a bunch of drinking             buddies, and theyd get really drunk on the weekends and thought it             would be a good idea to mess with all four of us (Jim and his three             stepsisters) in another room. Sandy became alarmed by his             discussion of sex acts, so she took him to Child Protective             Services. The CPS worker was afraid an exam would traumatize the             three-year-old. He received counseling at the Northwest Child             Guidance Center until the age of six, but then funding for therapy             was cut off without explanation. When he was in kindergarten, he             played doctor with the other kids. Later in grade school, nobody             wanted him in the Boy Scout troop. He touched a boy on an overnight             stay. Child Protective Services workers came into the school to talk             to him, but Sandy said she didnt learn the specific complaints             until much later. The mother of the abused cousin, said that her             sister, Sandy, never drank again after rehab in 1995: If she would             have drank, she would have been as big a mess as before. But             Sandys past has haunted her when it comes to how authorities treat             her. Indeed Sandy is a fireplug, and doesnt mince words. Her             conversation is often hard to track because she goes off on             tangents. Although shes never broken the law since her assault with             a car, Sandy fears that people havent treated her son very well             because of her own past. THE PLEA Jim was 10 1/2 when he             touched his 11-year-old cousin. The girl didnt tell her mother             until seven months later, when it was reported immediately to the             police chief who had been mentoring Jim. Jim was questioned by             police without an attorney (not uncommon in these cases). He             eventually admitted what hed done. The case went to Antrim County             Assistant Prosecutor Mark Fett, who charged Jim with a criminal             sexual conduct, second degree (CSC 2). Its the second highest sex             offense and was due to the victims age and the threat of violence.             Sandy met briefly with Fett, but most of her conversations were             with the court administrator William Hefferan. She claims that he             never told her that a guilty plea would mean that Jim would go on             the public sex offender registry. Hefferan said he cant remember             whether he told her that or not. I cant assure that every time             someone pleads to a CSC, I tell them this is a 25-year registerable             offense, Hefferan said. The sex registry was not cited in the             plea agreement but was included in the ajudication (Jims sentence).             Sandy missed it. Sandy quickly agreed to the plea to CSC two             without a lawyer. She remembers being told that a plea would             expedite the process, which was important to her. She couldnt have             her younger child reinstated in her home until her son was removed.             Secondly, she believed a plea was the only way to get her son             state-funded counseling and residential treatment, which she could             not afford. (She still owes $12,038 to the             county). VICTIMIZED But the plea bargain was no bargain,             Aprea said. Most prosecutors want to achieve relative justice             without a trial. But theres nothing worse than a charge of CSC one             or two. In this case, the boy pled exactly to what he was charged             with. Yes, he made a threat, but a threat coming from a 10-year-old             is a lot different than a threat coming from a 15-year-old or an             adult. That kid was victimized by the system. Immediately after             Sandy signed the adjudication papers in April of 2004, Jim, 11, was             taken to a lockdown wing at the Muskegon River Youth Home where he             was given an orange uniform to wear. A juvenile justice worker             visited him and told him that if he didnt hurry up and finish             treatment he would be sent to Wackenhut (a youth prison), where, he             said, a group of boys dragged another boy into a room and sodomized             him until his rectum fell out and he bled to death. Jim was             shaken, hearing about sodomy for the first time. He stayed in             Muskegon until August, when a space opened up at Havenwyck             Psychiatric Hospital in Auburn Hills for which the minimum age was             11. He began a sexual aversion therapy, which involved sniffing             three ammonia pills after listening to a story of a deviant sex             act. NO PLACE FOR A CHILD Jim said he has mixed feelings             about his treatment. He felt that without intervention he might have             become a serial molester. Now a very articulate and pleasant young             man, he feels like a success case. But he believes that Havenwyck is             no place for a child. He attended group therapy sessions with men             who were as old as 19. If you werent bad, youd know how to be bad             now. I worked hard to reach the top level in my treatment. I             really wanted out of there, he said. They smash you down to             nothing and then you rebuild yourself. It gets rid of a lot of             negative behavior, but it gets rid of everything. I was an empty             shell. After I got out, I had no social skills, Jim said. For             two years, I wasnt allowed to talk to girls. When I got out, my age             group was largely different than me. I cried a lot. When I             got back to high school, I was treated like a sex offender even             though Id just gone through one-and-a-half years of treatment. I             wasnt allowed to participate in gym or use the bathroom. They             wanted me to use the teachers bathroom, and I didnt want to be             embarrassed, so I just held it all day. The same kids who picked             on him before picked on him again, so he transferred to his current             school. The group of kids at the new school is small; they know his             history and respect him; so Jim, who recently broke up with his             girlfriend, said he believes this article wont affect their opinion             of him. BAD NEWS Jim was home for nine days in January of             2006, when the juvenile justice worker called to inform Sandy that             she had only until the next day to get her son registered as a sex             offender. This was the first Id heard of such a thing. When I             questioned her, she said that she could tell the judge, Oops, my             bad! but it probably wouldnt do Jim any good. Sandy thought             she had to only register her son once. That is until May of 2007,             when the Michigan State Police showed up at the house and said hed             have to register quarterly. They took his prints on the trunk of a             police cruiser while kids, across the street, were in a football             practice. We live across the street from the school and they             were broadcasting Jims name and our address on the scanner. Were             contacting Jim for his failure to register as a sex offender.             Everyone with a scanner knows now, Sandy said. Since then, Sandy             has confronted the reality of the sex offender registry. The law             regarding juveniles is so vague, it was hard for the Express to get             clear-cut answers to such questions from professionals: How long             will Jim remain on the sex offender registry after becoming an adult             (conflicting answers of 25 years and lifetime)? Even if Jim had the             crime expunged, does he still have to register on the sex offender             registry (yes, but its a start)? How often does he have to register             as a juvenile (conflicting answers)? When Sandy called assistant             prosecutor Mark Fett with questions, she says he screamed at her --             Im telling you now. Register your kid! -- and slammed down the             phone. Fett did not return a call for comment. Is There a             Better Way? Michigan has the third largest sex offender registry             in the nationat least it did in 2004 when there were 33,000 people.             Today there are 43,964. The registrys growth might falsely             indicate to people outside of the state that Michigan is teeming             with child molesters and rapists . , reads a 2004 legislative             analysis of a bill written by Julie Koval. Some other states take             a more nuanced approach to sex offender registration, and do not             require juveniles under a certain age to register, and others do not             require that juveniles register at all. When working with             juvenile sex offenders, the focus should be on rehabilitation to             help them stop their abusive behaviors. Adolescence is often a             difficult time for many young people; publicly labeling them as             dangerous criminals can have devastating effects as they try to             develop their identities, she wrote. Professionals specializing             in the fieldcounselors Barb Cross and John Ulrich to Todd Heller, a             computer cop who snags sex offenders, and Noelle Moeggenberg who             prosecutes them, all agree: A judge needs discretion on whether to             put a juvenile on a public sex offender registry. I never take             any sexual offense lightly, however, 10-year-old children can and do             engage in youthful experimentation, exploring their own bodies and             the bodies of their playmates. Its not acceptable, but its far,             far different than predatory behavior, said Kenneth Tacoma, chief             probate and family division judge of the 28th circuit court in             Wexford County. A DIFFERENCE Therapist Barb Cross said             theres a lot of difference between a one-time offender versus a             teenage boy who molests multiple times. These two should not be             treated the same. The way the system is set up, the             prosecutornot the judgedetermines a childs fate, Tacoma             said. Kalkaska County Prosecutor Brian Donnelly said there might             be room for discretion within narrow confines, but he believes the             public sex offender registry makes sense. Im a believer that             once this kid has demonstrated hes capable of this, we place him in        
Entity: Auburn Hills, Michigan
18, Report #284549
Nov 13 2007
10:39 AM
Macomb County Michigan Prosecutor Refuses To Prosecute!!! Eric Smith, Margaret DeMuynck, Consumer Protection, White Collar Crime Shelby Township / Macomb County Michigan
To Whom This May Concern, I originally came into contact with John F. Clark through a friend at work. I wanted to sell my home and he gave me the card of his realtor. On this Coldwell Banker Walters Realty Business Card, as well as many of his real estate listings I found an advertisement for John F. Clark Construction which appears to be a subsidiary of Coldwell Banker Walters Realty. On October 4, 2006 I hired John F. Clark to build and sell me a new home. I am being forced to file both criminal and civil charges against Mr. Clark personally as well as his business. I filed a report with Shelby Twp. MI. Police department (#07-0013115) and retained the services of attorney Arthur Garton and filed a civil suit with Macomb County Circuit Court (case # 2007-3135-CZ) John F. Clark Real Estate Agent, License # 6505221825 John F. Clark Residential Builder, License # 2102072549 I contend (and have documented proof ), that John F. Clark has in fact illegally diverted funds from my bank account and refused to follow the provisions of a legal contract for personal financial gain. Whether by pen or sword his actions equate to bank robbery. I have tried on several occasions to resolve all issues without the use of the legal system; but Mr. Clark made it very clear not to call, write, e-mail etc. My home is not complete and my roof is leaking and I'm getting no relief. Mr. Clark has absolutely no morals or conscience whatsoever, as a matter of fact, he laughed when I told him that I was calling the police. To protect my fellow citizens, I feel compelled to do everything in my power to see that Mr. John F. Clark is no longer able to destroy the lives of innocent people. If I were sick or elderly, I'm convinced the stress level I have faced for the past ten months would have killed me. Why does fact that this man used a pen to rob my bank, make him any better than an armed robber? His licenses should be revoked immediately and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Below is a brief list of unresolved issues John F. Clark refuses to deal with: 1) Mr. Clark submitted to me a deceiving 'sample contract' which included everything we discussed. On the day of signing, he provided a contract that looked identical to the original; but many of the agreed upon items were deleted. 2) I later discovered that the address for John F. Clark Construction Inc. is merely a mailbox located in the Hidden Meadows subdivision located in Richmond Michigan. There is no physical building to speak of. I later discovered that John F. Clark resides in Capac Michigan at an address unavailable to me. 3) The basement contractor (F&M poured walls) totally destroyed my form-A-Drain system. I requested that it be replaced; Mr. Clark decided to repair it instead. The repairs were substandard at best. Mr. Clark back charged F&M and kept all of the money for himself. (I have pictures) 4) Mr. Clark claimed that the pan ceilings were not on the print he quoted. He made me pay $1000.00. He also omitted a dining room window for the same reason. It just occurred to me that the ceilings and windows are on the same print he used to charge me a $9000.00 upgrade for my dormers. 5) My telephone lines were not installed correctly and I needed to have W.O.W. re-install them. 6) The gang boxes for my porch lights were so close to the side walls, there was no possible way to mount a light. I actually needed to design and machine a special bracket to relocate my porch lights. 7) Mr. Clark's electrician drilled a hole through one of the weight bearing main floor joists to run low voltage cable T.V. lines. After witnessing the electrician do this, I asked John Clark to Borrow his drill and I did the same thing to the other main floor joist for my entertainment center. John allowed me to do it and then told me the next day that it was a bad thing so he filled the top of the hole with wood chips and nailed a 2 x 4 to the basement ceiling to hide the hole to pass inspection. 8) Before the flooring was installed, I noticed the Kitchen / Dining area floor beginning to sink right next to the main joist. Mr. Clark put an additional support in the basement and filled the sunken area with leveler. I'm not so sure that that was the correct method of repair. 9) The bricks I had chosen for the home were considered an upgrade. I asked Mr. Clark if he would allow me to get competitive quotes and he agreed. I soon discovered that the bricks in question were proprietary to The General Shale Company. I decided to randomly call a different branch of General Shale and discovered that Mr. Clark had tried to overcharge me $700.00 10) Without consulting me, Mr. Clark took it upon himself to radically deviate from the blueprint specifications I provided. He totally changed the design of my roof and it is still leaking to this day. 11) Mr. Clark decided to pour my garage floor on a cold day and didn't saw cut the cement for several weeks. The entire floor cracked up and needed to be replaced. I took the day off of work to witness the re-pour and noticed that he failed to put re-bar in the cement as the code required. I brought it to his attention and after the cement was poured, he went to Home Depot and bought (5) 10' pieces of bar, bent them into a U shape and put them into the cement. That does not meet the 8' minimum code requirement. I then discovered that he never had the ground re-inspected prior to the re-pour, as required by Shelby Twp. 12) Then he tried to bury the busted concrete from my garage floor in my back yard. 13) Mr. Clark delivered and begun to install plastic water supply lines throughout my house when I paid for copper. 14) It was explained to me that since my house was a ranch and very long, I would need to have a hot water loop installed to reduce the travel time of the hot water to the end of the house opposite the hot water tank. It was agreed that said loop would be installed. Mr. Clark failed to install the hot water loop and now it takes a very long time for hot water to reach my Master Bath. In order to have this done now I would need to completely re-pipe every hot water line in the house. 15) Mr. Clark, the plumber and I argued for six weeks because they refused to connect my outside hose bibs to my secondary water meter. I actually had to have the assistant director of public works tell them it was OK over the phone; and send a DPW associate to my house to tell them in person before they would connect my hose bibs to the proper meter. 16) I was harassed on a daily basis by Mr. Clark's plumber, tile guy, dry wall guy and brick layers claiming they hadn't been paid. (I paid John Clark in advance) This harassment was totally inflicted by Mr. Clark's actions. This torture went on for several months and still continues to this day. John consistently lied to me claiming the bills were paid. 17) John Clark docked the bricklayers $1500.00 which caused them to seriously stall this project by several months. When I asked John why he was docking them he said it was because he didn't like the job they did. I then told him that if the work was substandard, then the money should go to me. He then lied to my face, changed his story; and said he was overcharged. 18) Mr. Clark deleted the hot tub from my contract and tried to tell me that I agreed to a master bath with No Bathtub at all. I never agreed to anything of the sort. That one cost me $1000.00 19) Mr. Clark and his subcontractors consistently left my doors wide open with the heat full blast. I actually had to pay a $780.00 gas bill. When the doors were closed they were left unlocked, someone actually walked right in my house and stole my ceiling fan. 20) Contractually the house was to complete May,1 2007. From the beginning of this project until end of March, Mr. Clark assured me that we were at least one month ahead of schedule. The lies continued until I told him 'If we were a month ahead of schedule, I would be moved in already' 21) From the beginning of March to the beginning of May, 2007 Mr. Clark has accumulated maybe 16 total man hours worked. From the beginning of May to the present, Mr. Clark stopped work completely. I was forced to pay $1700.00 per month mortgage $650.00 per month rent, $120.00 per month storage while nothing was being done. 22) My screens have not been delivered or installed so I'm forced to use my air conditioning which is costing me a lot of money. 23) My roof is leaking 24) There is a cracked granite tile in my foyer 25) There are nail pops everywhere 26) The latch for my small garage door is gouging into the molding. 27) The Washer drain was leaking into the wall and flooded the floor of my laundry room. Mr. Clark cut a large hole into the wall to repair the leak and never repaired the hole. The floor is still not totally dry 28) Bad drywall job on the Kitchen and Master Bathroom ceilings. 29) The garage attic access door is blocked by the garage door rails 30) He left large holes in the roof of my basement. I can stand in my basement, look up and see my first floor hot tub. 31) When the home was near completion, I started the title work and discovered roughly $60,000.00 in liens against my home. I told Mr. Clark to pay the subcontractors so I could provide a free and clear title to the credit union in which I was refinancing with. Now I knew why he stalled the completion of the house for three months. I got tired of paying hard earned money for his stalling tactics and I decided to set a closing date and told him that I was going to hold back money until the house was complete. That way I could still get the excellent interest rate my credit union was offering. 32) Two days prior to closing, Mr. Clark told me that he was not going to finish the house or pay the $60,000.00 in liens, don't call write or e-mail him. I then got curious; I wanted to know how Mr. Clark was able to obtain money from my bank for any of the scheduled draws when the basement contractor (F&M poured walls) and the lumber yard (Lumberjack) had not been paid. I later discovered that John F. Clark submitted signed and notarized sworn statements to the Phillip Greco Title company, who in turn gave First State Bank permission to fund my checking account so I could pay the draws prematurely. The signed and notarized statements claim that all subcontractors have been paid in full when in fact they have not been paid at all. 33) I needed to pay $140.00 to have my locks re-keyed. 34) I incurred $170.00 in survey costs from my credit union as result of the cancellation of the closing of the house. 35) The main support poles in the basement are not bolted to the basement ceiling 36) The pitch of my driveway is too low underneath my study window. 37) I planned on re-financing the home after completion. Due to the cancellation of the closing of this house I lost the 30yr. fixed mortgage at 6.25% my credit union was going to give me. I was going to use the remaining money to pay off many of the bills I incurred to finish the house. If we would have closed as promised, everything would be paid. Now that we didn't close, all of these bills came due and put my credit in jeopardy. 38) Mr. Clark did not hook up all of the major appliances as contractually obligated. I ended up doing most of them myself 39) At the last minute, John Clark notified me that we could not get a certificate of occupancy without (5) trees. I had to borrow $750.00 for that one. 40) Mr. Clark promised me I could move in on May 1, 2007 and then again on June 1, 2007. I had to give my apartment complex 1 month notice prior to moving out. I didn't receive a certificate of occupancy until (3) days after I moved in. I was technically homeless and Mr. Clark hadn't done anything to the house in weeks. 41) I was forced to file a police report with Shelby Township Police Department. The case is currently being reviewed by detective Hogan. 42) I had to retain the services of Attorney Arthur Garton to sue John F. Clark for the balance owed to his subcontractors, the additional thousands of dollars that I incurred as result of his fraudulent activities. I spent my entire life working and going to school to earn the means to build my dream house. I saved, invested and completely depleted my retirement fund to finance this project. Words cannot accurately explain the level of stress I incurred by having everything I owned threatened on a daily basis. I was forced to use the profit from my previous residence along with many credit cards to pay for all of Mr. Clark's overcharges, mistakes and lies. I planned on refinancing this house with my credit union to payoff these bills. Now that Mr. Clark has refused to complete the home and pay his subcontractors, I cannot refinance this house to obtain the money to pay these bills. Mr. John F. Clark has absolutely no conscience or moral values. He knows exactly the pain and suffering he has caused me and shows no signs of remorse. When I told him that I was filing a police report; he laughed at me. He made sure that I was so far in debt that I couldn't even afford an attorney to defend myself. My parents discovered what was happening when I actually had a nervous breakdown. They went into debt to hire an attorney to protect me. I can't eat or sleep anymore and I started having panic attacks. I truly believe that if I was elderly or in bad health the level of stress that this man has imposed would kill me. Mr. John F. Clark has made the American dream, the American nightmare. If there is anything that can be done to protect another human being from the pain I've experienced, I pray to god that it be done. If you have any questions, concerns or are in need of information, please feel free to call me anytime. Sincerely In four months, Macomb County Prosecutor and Shelby Township Police were unable to locate John F. Clark's builders license number. (It took me 3 minutes) Whether it be Negligence or Incompetence, I'm happy to say my hard earned tax dollars are being spent for the protection of criminals..... God Bless Us All!!! Scott Shelby Township, MichiganU.S.A.
Entity: Shelby Township / Macomb County, Michigan
19, Report #433411
Aug 05 2009
09:05 AM
Macomb County Friend Of The Court! Macomb County Friend of the Court Sucks! Mount Clemens Michigan
Let me first say they need to change there name to Friend of the Lesbos This place is absolutely terrible. I have a son who is 8yrs old, never married to the mother Lisa (psycho) it all started when my son's mother was being romantically involved with her first cousin (sicko). I went to the Friends of man hater's court and filed a complaint stating I did not want my son around that type of dysfunctional behavior. They basically told me it is none of my business and if I want to go further I would need to hire an attorney which I did and let me tell you the lawyer was a reject. To make a long story short It took me $10,000 in lawyers fees to block her mothers cousin from being around my son. Not to mention these retards who work for the FOC are the rudest sob's on earth. Note.... If you have a penis you are treated like a criminal. Jennifer Granholm needs to take a quarter and go to downtown Detroit and have a rat gnaw that thing off her face to she can see what is going on in the local courts. By the way if you ever have to go to FOC I hope you do not get treated like sh*t. Also they way they handle the parenting time and support amounts pre-date Lincoln. In a real world the parenting time should be 50/50 unless some circumstances arise. Then they should split the support between the parents. Last time I checked it takes two to create a new life. I only hope that all us MEN stick together and fight this unfair fight. Talk about woman's rights.... PS I don't mind paying for my child but dam please be fair. Good Luck - Jeff SCS, MichiganU.S.A.
Entity: Mount Clemens, Michigan
20, Report #467111
Aug 05 2009
09:01 AM
RIPOFF, LAZY AND INCOMPATANT FOC MACOMB COUNTY RIPOFF, LAZY AND INCOMPATANT FOC MACOMB COUNTY Mt Clemens MichiganMt Clemens Michigan
back in 2001 my ex-girlfriend was given custody after being arrested the week before for prostitution.... It was suppose to be 50-50 on parenting time yet I had to pay $100.00 a week for child support only after I spoke up to Judge Viviano because he wanted it to be $100.00 a week. I haven't seen my daughter in over 6yrs because FOC Will NOT do anything about it. We went infront of the judge several times about parenting time and he said GROW UP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR OR SEE YOU IN HERE ANYMORE ABOUT THIS... We went one more time and she even brought our daughter because she knew she was going to jail for not giving me my parenting time.. SHE DIDN'T.... It was thrown out .. ALSO she signed her rights AWAY and then went to FOC a few days later and stated she didn't know what she was signing, yet SHE READ AND SIGNED THE PAPERWORK INFRONT OF A NOTARY.... I just had a court date not to long ago and they raised my child support to 300.00 a week for one child and I only made 500 a week before taxes.. HOW IS THIS FAIR TO ANYONE...... I HAVE MY FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF AND I HAVE BILLS TO PAY.. SO DOES THIS MEAN I'M A DEADBEAT DAD... I THINK NOT.. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME??????????? NOW SHE MOVED OUT OF STATE AND FOC WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.... SIGNED, FED UP WITH MACOMB COUNTY Paul624 Shelby Twp, MichiganU.S.A.
Entity: Mt Clemens, Michigan
21, Report #100365
Jul 24 2004
11:15 PM
Johnson County Mental Health Center Destructive & Deceptive Records Keeping Policy Mission Kansas
I want to tell my story about the Johnson county Mental Health Center. How this institution has treated me over the last 13 years or so has been troubling to me and others. The Center has been very unresponsive to my concerns. I will not say what happened to me what seems now so many years ago, but it was devestating. I got over it, got married and had several beautiful children. Shortly after I had my first child, I found out from someone who had also gone to the Center that the Center was to keep my file reports with my therapist permanent. I was in disbelief. A relative of mine who's a therapist said he throws his files away after seven years. I thought that was what everybody did. So I called up the Center. Sure enough, my worse fears were confirmed. The staff told me my files were permanent and, in short, there was nothing I could do about it. As if to make things better, they said I could get a copy to review the content. I promptly did this. As I sat there and read about a years worth of notes, I realized that my doctor had written down everything I'd said in detail. Worse than that, he made judgments about me (evaluations) that he never told me about in the sessions. I called the Center and told them to take all these comments out. They said all I could do was add my objections in writing. How ridiculous! A doctor makes a damaging comment and my comment is going to correct or outweigh the opinion of a doctor in other people's eyes? This is what has caused me great heartache and anguish ever since. The Center assured me that no one would ever read my file, that it would be safe forever. I do not feel confident in their assertion. The point is--those files are out of my hands. I have no control. If I die suddenly, how can I ever know that someday in the future, something will change like the law that will allow someone to look at my file who I don't want to look at my file. And what happens if someone I know one day works at the Center and comes across my name and wants to see why I went through therapy? And what am I to do? Who am I to tell? A lawyer? If I do that, everyone will know I went through therapy. The whole world will know. I may want to tell my children what happened to me. I don't yet know. But if I decide to tell them, I want the decesion as to when to tell them to be mine. I don't care what the Center says or how often they reassured me. When my files are kept in anybody's hands but mine, they're not in my control. And this bothers me. It does more than bother me. It makes me go back and remember what happened to me and all the consequences right along with it. It disrupts and reverses the healing that had started. P Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaU.S.A.
Entity: Nationwide
22, Report #601475
Aug 08 2010
07:08 PM
Macomb County Friend Of Court , Oakland County Court What a disgrace hazel park, Michigan
Take this for whats it worth i have dealt with foc in mt.clemens for 10 years now and its a joke i have been put in jail even tho i was paying i have sat at there office for 7 hours and was told my case worker left hours ago i have spent $20thousand dollars on lawyers that agreed with me then asked what i wanted them to do when i said now tell foc in mt.clemen that oOo i cant do that so save your money its a corupt system its a joke have you ever wondered why your payments are up to date but foc in mt.clemens is always a month behind?? Its call interst just imagine the interst they collect every month on the money everyone pays!!I know for a fact they dont care about the children its a business to them every on that works on the 6th floor its money nothing else there lives are so misserable they take it out on the people order to pay child support so till people wake up unite together and sit at the front doors of foc in mt.clemens this will continue to happen im very sorry that so many famaliees have been destroyed cause of the foc in mt.clemens dont bother calling graholm i did and was told there was nothing she can do!!!!!     robert
Entity: hazel park, Michigan
23, Report #568605
Feb 12 2010
12:49 PM
MACOMB COUNTY FRIEND OF THE COURT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE UNFAIR TREATMENT Mt. Clemens, Michigan
I am a single mom of three, having all with the same man. It started when i was pregnant with my daughter the third child. I constantly stayed sick and decided to let my oldest attend school from his fathers house but he was to return him home. That did not happen, instead to get out of paying childsupport he filed a motion to get full custody of our son and it was granted. Eight years later i am still going to court concerning matters that i am not happy with. My childrens father is on ssd because of chrones disease and he is also receiving food assistance and medicaid for our son which resulted in me having to pay child support as of last year 2008. I am out of almost five hundred dollars a month and it was ordered that i put all children on my insurance through my employer. I am upset because during the last year i have tried to get my support reduced and was told that i had to wait a year before doing so. I make under ten dollars an hour but receive bonuses if a breaking point is exceeded in sales.2008 i gross 60k it was a record breaking year for my employer i received very large bonuses but as the enconomy went down sales went down to and i have been struggling every since. bonus went from 3k a month to 3 hundred dollars or less. When finally getting the chance to file a motion i went in front of Referee Lisa Goldstein who requseted all this information but did not take one look at it because she was so concerned with what i made in the passed. i took multiple check stubs to show that this is what my bonus is this is what im am bringing home the numbers were much lower then before and it didn't matter to her because of my gross income which was lower then 2008 gross income. I tried to explain okay yeah i may get a bonus that is higher in some months but that is unpredictable what am i to do if there is know bonus or if it's so low to where i cant afford to keep my possessions which would have happened if it wasnt for my family or assistance that i had to apply for . Whenever i miss work to go to court  a pecentage is taken from bonus for anyday or hour missed. Now since i'm only bringing home less then seven hundred dollars a month after everything is deducted from my pay check how am i suppose to support the two children that lives with me pay rent bills  carnote and insurance if everything i ever worked for is being taken from me. I went to court today to get my support reduced referee Zaira Maio told me it wasnt going to go down by much because of my gross income. Well i wanted her to look at my net pay what i am actualy bringing home but she didnt care and what she wanted to lower it to i was not happy with because of what has happened to me within the last year . If i dont receive a bonus big enough to cover my bills God only knows what will happen to my children and me. Another thing i don't understand is i filed a motion in December to get my support reduced my x and i went in front of the judge and i said judge i dont think its fair that i have to support all three of my children and their father is not oibligated to anything i said yeah he's on disability but he's also in college to become a mechanic so if he can go to school why can't he find a part time job to help support our children instead of trying to ruin my life because he wants to be on assistance. The judge agreed  and told him to bring in something from his doctor stating that he cant work. Today in court it was a diffrent story the referee was on his side and told me when i ask what about me when am i going to get some help because i barely been making it she says he's on ssd and he dont need any documentaions and what the judge said didn't matter. I have filed complaints of fraud on him with the dhs office because he has been working under the table he gotten married and  just bought him a nice car but nobodys questioning him about any of that. I got put out of court and may have to reappear because i used the f word so the referee assured me that the police will be at my house so i dont know what to expect. I think they are full of it and that they are going by rules that they make and i am tired. I am tired of running back and fourth so they can do nothing while loosing money because im not at work i cant function like this and something needs to be done. There are plenty of people that i know that is on disability and obligated to pay support and i know plenty of people that have a disability but still work so what makes my childrens father so special that nothing applies to him.When did there ever become a law that stated those on disability do not have to pay support because if there is Macomb county foc needs to be sued because what applies to one should apply to all to a certain extent if needed.     
Entity: Mt. Clemens, Michigan
24, Report #476561
Aug 05 2009
07:25 AM
Macomb County Friend Of The Court OOOOps, they did it again. Mount Clemens Michigan
I figured I would just add one onto the long list for the Macomb County Friend of the Court. Although not 'entirely' their fault this time, I had my attorney work out a 'deal' with my ex's attorney. At the time, I had my child for visitation EVERY weekend. Unfortunately, it just wasn't working with me and my ex because she felt as if she didn't have to abide by any court order. She withheld my son from me for over three weeks so we asked for make-up time and more specified visitation times, for example; holidays. My attorney had us sign a 'Consent Order' and informed me that we all sit down in the next few days and adjust weekends within those parameters so that I would get MORE visitation time as a result of her contempt. On the Consent Order it states that I had a right to file for a De Novo hearing within 7 days of that day. Well, I find out two days later that there is no right for a De Novo hearing on a Consent Order. So why does it state this on their form? I had two Macomb County employees tell me that it was an error on their part and that it shouldn't have been printed on 'Consent Orders' but rather just Recommended Orders. It was also the MC employees that encouraged me to file a grievance. So about two weeks later, I went before the wonderful Referee, Mr. Paul Jacokes, and the idiot informs me that it doesn't matter what is printed on the 'Consent Order'. Let me see here, you have a 'legal' court document that states something that is 'false'. As far as I'm concerned, this is like putting a Chrysler warranty on a Ford product. Granted, I did find out that it is true, you can't appeal a 'Consent Order' but the point is, it says you can. But I couldn't believe it when this idiot tells me that it doesn't matter what it says on the 'Consent Order' other that the parts that he says matter. Time to Fight Troy, MichiganU.S.A.
Entity: Mount Clemens, Michigan
25, Report #1106905
Dec 13 2013
08:29 PM
Arc of Macomb County only cares about the money, unfair to employees, unfair to consumers Clinton Twp Michigan
The arc of macomb county does not care about its css employees or its consumers. They are only interested in money. They are suppose to care about the mentally and physically disabled but don't. I have seen them not care when they people in houses that do not belong in the homes. They do not care what other consumers say. They lie. They fire employees and make up excuses so they cannot get unemployment.You go to the supervisors for help with a situation and they do nothing. You go above the supervisor heads and they still do nothing. You make a complaint and what they do is find a reason to fire you. Then they fight you from collectiing unemployment. They leave consumers without staff for more then 24 hours. They don't watch the homes like they should. They forget to schedule people on purpose and just expect the staff stay because staff knows not to leave.I have seen staff work 31 straight hours or more without a break and no sleep because staff isnot allowed to sleep at any homes. When you call they do not answer because they are to busy. Staff can call in a day in advance but supervisors will no return calls and they staff gets written up because no one got back with them.Do not work for Arc or send your family member to them. They do not care.They ar only interested in the money. If you complain then you are put on their list of not cooperating and they look for reasons to fire you. They give CSS crazy hours or if you get a supervisor upset they will knock them down to part time hours.  They don't put a schedule up until the day before the shift or day of. So if you work a 2nd job which many do you have a hard time keeping the hours.Arc is known to turn a deaf ear to any complaints made by consumers or css staff. They close the doors when a consumer comes to talk to them. THey tell he person at the front desk to say they are in a meeting. So please if smart you would not have your worse enemy work at Arc or go to the Arc.
Entity: Clinton Twp, Michigan

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