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IHOP is a ripoff that doesn't give a dam; The server burnt my toddler, giving him permanent scars. Waldorf, Maryland *UPDATE ..Insurance company playing games & IHOP moron! *EDitor's Comment

*Consumer Comment ..this is an old thread but...

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Crain Hwy
Waldorf, Maryland, 20604
U.S.A.

Submitted: 7/20/2002 7:17:29 PM

Modified: 8/11/2008 9:47:50 PM
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Dale

Waldorf, Maryland

On March 18, 2002 My family and friends family went to IHOP in Waldorf. We already had a problem because the place smelled like mold. My family used to visit IHOP frequently until this day.

We all ordered our food. I had ordered Biscuts and gravy. Well, the food came out and the woman was handing the food around so everyone's hands were full. Next thing we know, she places the hot plate of biscuts and gravy in front of our toddle (15months at the time), of course we tried to grab the plate real quick, but before we could he put his right hand in it, thinking it's his food. He starts screaming, the server walks away.

We were trying to get the gravy off of his hand. He burned his left hand trying to get it off himself. I ran to the bathroom and got a wet paper towel, the gravy just stuck to him. The server came over and we demanded the check and asked to speak to the manager. The manager then comes over and asked us what the problem is, so we told him what happened, not like he couldn't hear it. We also told him that we want to leave and get him to the hospital, because his hands were bubbling.

The manager kept us at bay for almost 30 minutes. We told him we were leaving and then we got up to walk out. All of the sudden he gives us our check. We didn't eat, and left everything on the table. We walked up to pay so we could finally leave. I asked him to write his name and the servers name down so I knew how to contact regarding his medical bills. He starts arguing with us, telling us our son had no business putting his hands in the food. I said 'excuse me' and he continues, 2 people were behind us, so I told him to let me pay my bill so I can get him to the hospital.

He then looks at the people behind us and tells them not to worry about their bill, and he was sorry for there inconvience. Really!! I just stood stunned, he then says, what the F*** is my problem, I told him to just let me pay my bill. After that he proceeded to call me a Bitch and told me to give him my F-ing bill. When I told him that he had it, he started up some more, so I said 'that's it' I'm through, and walked out.

My son had to see his regular doctor the next day and she was overwhelmed by what happened. Unfortunately, there isn't too much they can do for him because of his age and he's small. She could only give him a ointment to apply when he feel asleep. By Friday of that week, he ended up with an infection in the blister; they were starting to pop.

After trying to contact IHOP for a month, someone finally calls me and asks that I have his doctor send a fax of his situation. She also makes the comment, 'You need to understand that the server was only 17 and does not have children of her own.' They sent them one stating that he did recieve 2nd and 3rd degree burns to several of his fingers on both hands and would be scarred as a result. We didn't hear anything more, so I sent numerous e-mails to IHOP, finally we contacted by their insurance company a month and a half ago. The insurance man came to our home and took pictures of his scars.

We were told that they would contact us asap as to how they will settle this. I still haven't heard back. I just sent a e-mail telling IHOP that if this isn;'t resolved, I would turn this over to my attorney. I have given these jerks ample time to try to help the situation and the only response I get form them is, 'it's your son's fault' and 'sorry, but what do you want us to do?'. If I hear back, I will update this report as to what they want to do.

April
Waldorf, Maryland

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  • Three words... Adolph [7/20/2002 10:46:01 PM]
  • Insurance company playing games [8/24/2002 8:13:31 PM]
  • IHOP knows exactly what they are doing. [9/26/2002 8:35:52 PM]
  • IHOP insurance company says it's my toddler sons fault!!! [10/19/2002 5:55:15 PM]
  • IHOP insurance company says it's my toddler sons fault!!! [10/19/2002 5:56:14 PM]
  • They want to settle for pennies! [10/29/2002 9:14:24 PM]
  • Um...what's the problem? Lou [10/31/2002 2:02:50 AM]
  • Lou; you have to be an IHOP moron!!! [11/3/2002 2:45:43 PM]
  • You truly deserve every penny of that $750.00 Jim [11/7/2002 6:50:42 AM]
  • I nominate you for Mom of the Year (not!) Samantha [11/9/2002 3:49:11 PM]
  • What the hell??? Brandon [11/10/2002 7:35:17 AM]
  • To Jim & Samantha [11/11/2002 10:04:23 PM]
  • Sh!t Happens - Get Over It Pele [11/12/2002 1:29:53 PM]
  • EDitor's Comment: ..Totally in support of the victim [11/13/2002 2:18:01 AM]
  • Resist responding to this post .... TheFraudChick@aol.com [11/13/2002 12:11:09 PM]
  • I agree with our EDitor. Melissa [11/14/2002 9:56:03 AM]
  • Name calling is useless when faced with the truth Linda [11/15/2002 1:53:21 AM]
  • I wish you and your family the best of luck Bryanna [11/15/2002 4:46:17 PM]
  • EDitor's Comment to Linda - Eden Prairie, Minnesota ..Are you an attorney for IHOP? [11/16/2002 1:18:30 PM]
  • My update is for Linda [11/16/2002 9:55:27 PM]
  • Evasiveness will get you nowhere Linda [11/18/2002 5:24:55 AM]
  • Thank you Ed. Jesse [11/19/2002 11:50:45 AM]
  • Linda: Do you read what you write????? [11/19/2002 10:08:09 PM]
  • EDitor's Staff Comments [11/20/2002 12:26:00 AM]
  • A little bit of reality... tim [12/7/2002 7:05:00 PM]
  • my second response... Tim [12/7/2002 8:35:33 PM]
  • Tim from Michigan [12/9/2002 12:43:16 AM]
  • Sorry, But Mom bears responsibility here Shelly [12/9/2002 3:58:47 AM]
  • EDitor's Staff Comment ..Shelly .. [12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM]
  • Silence is golden.... TheFraudChick@aol.com [12/10/2002 8:31:46 PM]
  • Thank you Frank, and in response to Shelly [12/10/2002 9:08:51 PM]
  • We have taken a small settlement on behalf of our son Dale [1/20/2003 1:27:34 PM]
  • Okay, I bought it until the Autism connection Carrie [1/21/2003 1:05:47 AM]
  • First Aid Comments Howard [1/21/2003 8:14:19 PM]
  • I will shoot you down! Dale [1/22/2003 3:05:59 PM]
  • If you think your child is autistic then you don't know what autism is... Michael [1/23/2003 2:46:06 AM]
  • I am glad that it is over. John [1/24/2003 12:13:04 AM]
  • Michael from Washington, get a life! Dale [1/24/2003 9:11:55 PM]
  • Mother of an autisic child Lynn [1/27/2003 8:23:10 AM]
  • Like I stated above, I'm not a doctor Dale [1/29/2003 6:07:13 AM]
  • Don't Settle Colleen [1/29/2003 10:14:51 AM]
  • God Bless IHOP Mary Lou [1/29/2003 3:00:54 PM]
  • I feel sorry for your son. Lorenza [6/13/2003 11:47:15 PM]
  • For the Editor (Dale and his wife) and everyone else.... B [6/18/2003 5:06:49 PM]
  • B from Arizon! Dale [6/20/2003 6:29:13 PM]
  • unsuprised by some of these people's behavior Jessica [6/21/2003 11:02:08 PM]
  • Constructive criticism met with Hostility... Bea [6/22/2003 5:45:03 AM]
  • Bea: get a hobby!!! Dale [6/23/2003 11:10:46 AM]
  • I Feel For You! Jennifer [6/23/2003 7:21:47 PM]
  • Take some responsibility for your actions Howard [6/24/2003 10:13:15 AM]
  • I've been met with hostility again. Bea [6/24/2003 4:35:11 PM]
  • People like you is what ticks me off! Dale [6/25/2003 9:59:48 AM]
  • I give up. B [6/25/2003 11:57:32 PM]
  • Evasion of questions asked. Howard [6/26/2003 6:06:10 AM]
  • HOW STUPID CAN EV ERYONE BE! D [6/26/2003 10:21:29 AM]
  • D missed something along the way. Bea [6/27/2003 1:46:09 AM]
  • Emotional Outbursts does not make a Case Be. Howard [6/27/2003 5:56:22 AM]
  • Get it together people! Dale [6/30/2003 12:02:18 PM]
  • Whose fault is it really? Crystal [8/5/2003 11:32:18 AM]
  • Just don't understand Carl [8/6/2003 5:57:13 AM]
  • I guess I am going to be next in the line of fire ... but .... Mich [8/6/2003 6:21:04 PM]
  • Michele April [8/7/2003 1:36:06 AM]
  • Final Note Michele [8/8/2003 4:14:50 AM]
  • Pay no attention to the haters, April! Tammy [8/8/2003 8:07:38 AM]
  • REGRETTABLE INCIDENT DAWN [8/8/2003 1:58:05 PM]
  • A thought for all of us: A way to avoid such injuries. Teresa [8/9/2003 1:54:44 AM]
  • Lady, you're cuckoo! Angeline [8/10/2003 1:00:08 PM]
  • Enough already! Adolph [8/10/2003 7:18:48 PM]
  • Thank you! April [8/11/2003 10:25:39 AM]
  • I have been there too Michele [8/27/2003 4:10:38 PM]
  • Here is the problem ... Peter [8/28/2003 1:07:51 PM]
  • Money Hungry? Are We Not? Jessica [1/31/2004 12:01:06 AM]
  • Give me a break aready... shame on all of you! Take em' down April... Brian [1/31/2004 2:53:39 AM]
  • From Tupper Lake, NY to Waldorf, MD ... ? Paul Pickle [1/31/2004 11:21:31 PM]
  • management and help leave much to be desired. Mike [2/1/2004 6:22:58 AM]
  • Oh MY, Paul Pickle you are a joke. Dale [2/2/2004 11:22:48 AM]
  • I dont think these folks are trying to get rich from IHOP David [2/3/2004 6:43:50 AM]
  • When will this fiction be put to rest? Michael [2/12/2004 3:27:44 AM]
  • Objective Comment Tracey [2/12/2004 9:57:41 PM]
  • I have a seriouse Question to ask all participants Colleen [2/12/2004 10:00:22 PM]
  • I do have kids! How dare you place the blame soley on the waitress! Kathy [2/13/2004 6:19:56 PM]
  • Smells Fishy. Ella [2/14/2004 5:41:19 PM]
  • My My My Dale [2/16/2004 1:00:33 PM]
  • what a terrible situation, a different point of veiw Holly [2/20/2004 11:22:43 AM]
  • What can we do as a consumer? Sharon [2/28/2004 3:49:19 PM]
  • Illegal to Refuse Telephone for Emergency Calls Tony [2/29/2004 8:35:32 PM]
  • prime example of why insurance rates are so high Dave [3/1/2004 1:25:22 PM]
  • IHOP Server Responsibility Lindsay [5/3/2004 10:55:31 AM]
  • OH Please! Dale [5/4/2004 5:01:57 AM]
  • seriousness of burn Susanm [7/5/2004 8:50:55 PM]
  • Boring -- My problem is and was the piss poor attitude of the restaurant Dale [7/6/2004 12:57:03 AM]
  • 3rd degree burns Lindsay Doyle [7/8/2004 12:04:39 AM]
  • again, the 3rd degree burn Susan [7/9/2004 11:46:33 AM]
  • Southern Maryland... your local retail store sucks Mike Clive [7/10/2004 5:57:33 AM]
  • Mike Clive, HA HA HA HA HA ..we made you look incompetent and egotistical Dale [7/11/2004 8:50:06 AM]
  • Dale - Again you make no sense Mike [7/12/2004 7:26:45 AM]
  • To all, please read... They have slandered IHOP, Ford, and countless others Michael [7/12/2004 7:16:52 PM]
  • Again, you've made yourself look, well... you know Dale [7/12/2004 9:15:48 PM]
  • No Dale, you are wrong...yet again... Mike [7/13/2004 4:34:00 AM]
  • What is wrong with this picture...Maybe you should get into the work force and start doing something Amy [7/14/2004 7:10:29 AM]
  • Amazing, Mike, you have proven my point Dale [7/14/2004 11:13:13 AM]
  • Still Crazy After All These Years Bill [7/14/2004 5:04:49 PM]
  • Specialist offering advice Carol [7/15/2004 9:45:14 AM]
  • This kid will graduate from college by the time you people shut your yaps!! Pete [7/16/2004 4:18:53 PM]
  • mean pete...it should'nt upset you so Susan [7/17/2004 11:40:21 AM]
  • Gee...Amy... you must be related to Dale or April Mike [7/17/2004 1:44:45 PM]
  • Susan -yip-yap--yadda yaddda-->It's over case closed Pete [7/18/2004 6:40:44 AM]
  • Funny, You can dish it, but you certainly can't take it can you Amy [7/18/2004 7:46:38 AM]
  • bearing responsibility Rose [7/27/2004 10:25:29 PM]
  • WOW, you want to make a statement... but don't know where you live? Dale [7/28/2004 4:48:14 AM]
  • I agree with waitress Karen [7/28/2004 2:36:08 PM]
  • I saw everything Mary [7/28/2004 3:42:26 PM]
  • To: Mary Thank You Deb [7/29/2004 12:47:45 AM]
  • Waitress is responsible Krista [8/7/2004 1:18:06 AM]
  • Thanks to both the Mikes for exposing Dale/April David [8/8/2004 9:03:36 AM]
  • Yu were listening to what? Dale [8/9/2004 6:23:48 AM]
  • ex ihop employee Leanne [8/10/2004 12:13:01 AM]
  • Your an idiot as well as a scammer David [8/10/2004 7:50:14 AM]
  • David is David ... Nancy [8/10/2004 8:27:56 PM]
  • Dale... you have been had... Mike [8/11/2004 4:13:30 AM]
  • Keep showing your lack of intelligence Dale [8/11/2004 5:58:59 AM]
  • We'll ask you one more time. April/Dale Michael [8/11/2004 9:09:37 PM]
  • LMAO@Dale David [8/11/2004 10:50:52 PM]
  • Nancy, David & Mike Dale [8/12/2004 7:45:42 AM]
  • His motivations??? he loves the attention he gets from all the conflict he stirs up. Paul [8/12/2004 7:39:26 PM]
  • Hey DipShit ..err.. I mean Dale Nancy [8/13/2004 2:44:18 AM]
  • He's still avoiding the question David [8/13/2004 4:08:51 AM]
  • My point is.... Mike [8/13/2004 4:17:30 AM]
  • Question for those who believe April is at fault Julie [8/13/2004 1:40:47 PM]
  • just taking advantage of an unfortunate situation Joseph [8/13/2004 11:04:45 PM]
  • You guys need help Dale [8/14/2004 7:04:27 AM]
  • IHOP response.. Paul [8/15/2004 6:32:00 AM]
  • Servers @ IHOP Paul [8/15/2004 6:49:26 AM]
  • It's always about April and Dale David [8/15/2004 9:43:53 AM]
  • About Servers Paul [8/16/2004 6:03:10 PM]
  • Getting away from the Inccident Stephenie Renee [8/20/2004 9:50:26 AM]
  • I go to different retail establishments but I not going to file a Rip-off-Report because the cashier is having a bad day or the waitress is having a bad day Mike [8/20/2004 10:35:06 AM]
  • Ihop stuff Paul [8/21/2004 5:04:02 AM]
  • I do not know them personally Deb [8/21/2004 11:25:22 PM]
  • Liars, low lifes, and idiots, oh and do some medical research you idiots Jenny [8/22/2004 1:06:13 AM]
  • Our right to rebuttal Deb David [8/22/2004 11:07:42 AM]
  • Thank you all! Dale [8/23/2004 9:57:29 AM]
  • Jennifer....you are stupid Paul [8/23/2004 6:48:59 PM]
  • To the mother of the burned child, your story doesn't add up William [9/4/2004 4:04:54 PM]
  • William, have you EVER been to an IHOP April [9/5/2004 7:29:48 AM]
  • Keep Going for More MOney from IHOP! Shanda [9/5/2004 1:23:26 PM]
  • Why does it continue? MJ [9/8/2004 11:43:44 PM]
  • people replying to this report after 2 years Susan [9/10/2004 3:26:22 PM]
  • WAIT!!!! How long did you wait with how many adults around??? Jen [10/4/2004 9:26:55 PM]
  • If he was burned so bad why not take him to the hospital ? Why did you wait until the next day? Lisa [10/12/2004 11:10:51 PM]
  • ho-hum Susan [10/14/2004 10:36:08 AM]
  • Get over yourselves Dale [10/14/2004 5:17:20 PM]
  • you made the first mistake by not supervising child Adam [10/15/2004 2:26:59 AM]
  • To Adam! Dale [10/17/2004 12:02:46 AM]
  • Your so smart, figure it out Jasper [10/17/2004 8:04:43 AM]
  • You should get nothing Keith [10/20/2004 3:46:54 AM]
  • to the unfit parents who allowed their child to be burned ADAM [10/20/2004 11:38:29 PM]
  • A few points... Tim [10/21/2004 11:27:11 AM]
  • Oh Adam gets the BSer award of the year Dale [10/21/2004 6:22:11 PM]
  • Dale and April I'm writing this slowly because I doubt you read very quickly Adam [10/25/2004 12:24:59 AM]
  • More stupid comments by Adam Dale [10/26/2004 6:26:17 AM]
  • To the self rightous Adam April [10/26/2004 10:26:52 AM]
  • how do you know? Susan [10/26/2004 12:24:59 PM]
  • Give me a break Susan [10/26/2004 2:32:17 PM]
  • Why was the witness never responded to? Jessica [10/26/2004 3:41:41 PM]
  • Comments at this point are futile.. Everyone MUST MOVE ON. Stephenie [10/26/2004 6:46:44 PM]
  • Response to Q and A Dale [10/27/2004 6:52:14 AM]
  • I have a toddler Alecia [11/3/2004 11:46:50 PM]
  • remove your morphine pump adam. Kim [11/5/2004 2:09:30 PM]
  • YOU SEEM TO BE ILL INFORMED, APRIL Adam [11/6/2004 5:31:19 AM]
  • DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE VICTIM HERE? Nettie Jo [11/6/2004 2:35:00 PM]
  • They have only themselves to blame Ukiah [11/6/2004 9:20:31 PM]
  • Same bull once again April [11/7/2004 1:06:48 PM]
  • The facts, as you have presented them Ukiah [11/8/2004 4:40:48 AM]
  • This Rocks! Danielle [11/9/2004 3:12:43 AM]
  • Ukiah Adam [11/9/2004 4:54:12 AM]
  • April and your trained monkey Adam [11/9/2004 6:58:07 AM]
  • Won't get fooled again. Ukiah [11/9/2004 8:26:57 AM]
  • Adam, get over yourself! April [11/9/2004 9:08:50 AM]
  • I WAS AT IHOP AND I SAW EVERYTHING Chris [11/9/2004 11:11:52 AM]
  • There are others out there with my name...Wow!!!! I'm so excited! Danielle [11/9/2004 12:03:15 PM]
  • TV dinner MAX [11/9/2004 3:47:49 PM]
  • April Adam [11/9/2004 3:56:31 PM]
  • Ape ADAM [11/9/2004 4:44:26 PM]
  • Get a life! April [11/10/2004 8:17:28 AM]
  • TROLL ALERT!!! Adam is everywhere, Adam is a monkey-loving troll! Robin [11/10/2004 1:43:44 PM]
  • You're dead on, Robin Tim [11/11/2004 7:30:28 AM]
  • April & Dale, Robin & Tim Adam [11/12/2004 8:03:35 AM]
  • Asinine MAX [11/12/2004 8:32:58 AM]
  • IHOP management aloof at most IHOPs Warren [11/13/2004 10:16:42 PM]
  • Robin , you misguided and ill informed fool. You are an angry and possibly dangerous person. Adam [11/14/2004 1:41:28 AM]
  • Arabic Owned IHOP restaurants Lindsay [11/14/2004 9:03:38 PM]
  • Good Lord, Adam, you have lost it altogether!! Robin [11/14/2004 10:18:12 PM]
  • chill out Susan [11/15/2004 9:08:11 AM]
  • To Adam, again! you keep preaching about how everyone is hostile, uneducated, low IQed April [11/15/2004 9:19:36 AM]
  • Resolve future problems via boycott of Arab interests Warren [11/15/2004 11:11:18 AM]
  • Shedding some light on bad information Phil [11/15/2004 7:53:38 PM]
  • Susan, you just don't understand. Adam is a huge troll and he has been playing these games for a long time Robin [11/15/2004 8:08:16 PM]
  • facinating Susan [11/15/2004 10:41:34 PM]
  • To the victim (original author) Tom [11/15/2004 10:53:50 PM]
  • Susan, April, Robin Adam [11/16/2004 6:45:30 AM]
  • Aril& Robin, Adam [11/16/2004 7:16:04 AM]
  • Robin, I have no ides who or what a shawnagunk is or was. Adam [11/16/2004 8:09:04 PM]
  • Poor Adam, you're an angry old man with way too much time and nothing in life to do Dale [11/17/2004 12:01:18 AM]
  • Adam, nutcase, exposing himself all over Ripoff Report Steve [11/17/2004 10:01:41 AM]
  • TO: STEVE OR SENATOR JOE MCCARTHY. If you had any idea what libertarianism was you would feel real stupid Adam [11/17/2004 9:14:19 PM]
  • opinion Everyone is entitled Kimberly [6/15/2005 8:54:11 PM]
  • If the waitress put a hot plate full of hot gravy in front of the child...that is her fault. Sarah [6/22/2005 11:57:37 PM]
  • Dug a little on this one Karlton [6/25/2005 9:46:39 AM]
  • You have got to be kidding! Amie [6/25/2005 12:51:22 PM]
  • What all you pro poster people forget is this.. Julie [6/26/2005 10:45:43 AM]
  • The IHOP DELIMA Mark [6/26/2005 5:46:54 PM]
  • Mark can't read too well.. These people DID NOT take their child to the ER, they took him to his regular doctor the NEXT DAY. That's right, the NEXT DAY. Julie [6/27/2005 7:56:41 AM]
  • knew all about ripoff report Karlton [6/27/2005 9:00:52 AM]
  • Poor Poor Julie Dale [6/28/2005 7:49:51 AM]
  • Litigeous society Ian [6/28/2005 12:42:47 PM]
  • Dale how come you went three weeks before reporting the issue to IHOP? Karlton [6/29/2005 11:37:17 AM]
  • April & Dale - Good Luck on future suits Jen [7/1/2005 10:44:33 AM]
  • Karlton the BIGGEST liar alive!!!! Dale [7/1/2005 11:01:33 AM]
  • LOL case settlement Karlton [7/2/2005 11:55:56 AM]
  • 279 IQ?? The highest recorded IQ in history is 228 Tamberlyn [7/2/2005 9:01:00 PM]
  • The Bottom Line Victor [7/3/2005 8:24:26 AM]
  • Give it a rest! Dale [7/3/2005 2:32:49 PM]
  • WOW your Hotter then IHOP Gravey Karlton [7/3/2005 9:52:41 PM]
  • Look Karlton busted at his own game! Dale [7/6/2005 9:44:48 AM]
  • Your what? Shame on you for exploiting your mentally handicapped child Karlton [7/6/2005 10:59:11 AM]
  • What a moron! Dale [7/6/2005 11:56:52 AM]
  • Read the 'facts' Freedom of choice Jen [7/7/2005 12:36:02 PM]
  • What's wrong with everyone? Patrick [7/7/2005 2:05:10 PM]
  • how to get your revenge Becky [12/23/2005 10:33:36 PM]
  • Burns Timmy [1/17/2006 6:15:22 PM]
  • OMG This topic still going? David [2/13/2006 3:40:20 AM]
  • My response Aaron [2/13/2006 7:17:47 AM]
  • WOW!!! This is more twisted than a script of Desperate Housewives! Pete [2/13/2006 11:16:54 AM]
  • Keep an open mind. Jennifer [2/14/2006 11:25:22 AM]
  • gravy does burn and scar Sonya [2/15/2006 11:39:25 AM]
  • What kind of parents would not watch their child around the table? Marc [2/15/2006 1:26:52 PM]
  • For Marc, same parents who sit around and play xbox and PS2 all day long Sean [2/16/2006 8:38:08 AM]
  • toddler safety Rob [2/17/2006 6:51:40 AM]
  • IT'S SAD BUT TRUE Sandra [2/21/2006 6:30:10 PM]
  • You Should be Conscious of how you are Perceived Jade [3/5/2006 7:43:51 PM]
  • Learn Before You Talk! Nichole [4/29/2006 1:54:08 PM]
  • Thank You Nicole Jennifer [5/23/2006 2:17:53 PM]
  • Inconsistencies, much? blame lies with the parents of the child Mel [6/11/2006 1:25:32 AM]
  • IHop burned toddler Laberta [6/11/2006 9:17:03 AM]
  • Time Out! Becky [8/3/2006 4:28:51 PM]
  • Developmental Disabilities over a burn? Peter [8/3/2006 8:20:08 PM]
  • Unfortunate mishap Erin [11/5/2006 8:47:59 PM]
  • Hope everything works out for you Gina [11/14/2006 3:26:40 AM]
  • I've been to IHOP. Mark (FlyingScooter) [11/17/2006 8:17:10 AM]
  • I-Hop often has problems Anonymous [7/31/2007 5:25:30 PM]
  • wow Vairox [11/6/2007 2:57:52 PM]
  • are you kidding me?? Retailmonster [11/12/2007 12:09:45 AM]
  • leave these people alone!! Mad Women [11/21/2007 1:33:46 PM]
  • Typical Jeff [12/1/2007 12:50:56 PM]
  • Exasperation Katie [12/10/2007 9:24:14 PM]
  • To the Editor Donna [2/20/2008 8:35:15 AM]
  • View From Both SIdes of the rope A.fox [3/5/2008 1:18:16 AM]
  • Wow! Paul [4/4/2008 12:16:41 PM]
  • To Mr. I don't know what to believe Sugarpie [4/4/2008 3:04:25 PM]
  • Actually Sugarpie, Striderq [4/5/2008 3:48:53 AM]
  • Umm, Striderq Sugarpie [4/5/2008 10:04:01 AM]
  • It's a shame...but I see no need for a lawsuit Al [6/22/2008 11:20:55 AM]
  • For Sugarpie, second try Striderq [6/24/2008 1:51:15 PM]
  • How come you didn't perform basic first aid on your son? Honny [7/9/2008 7:44:32 PM]
  • 250 IQ Klerke' Kent [7/9/2008 11:46:20 PM]
  • Constructive Comment Donna [7/10/2008 10:06:09 PM]
  • Rebuttal, Rebuttal, Rebuttal Anonymous [8/6/2008 2:27:44 AM]
  • this is an old thread but... Truth Is Always Better [8/11/2008 9:17:18 PM]

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 7/20/2002 10:46:01 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Adolph

South Bend , Indiana

Three words...

Nawww....make that five: GET AN ATTORNEY-RIGHT AWAY.

Update

Submitted: 8/24/2002 8:13:31 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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Insurance company playing games

Yesturday, I finally received a response call from IHOP's insurance company. Mr. Cotter, of Cotter Insurance, asks me if their is anything else the doctor is doing for my son. I tell him, because of his age and the scares, there may be nothing they can do, all they can do is to sit an wait til he's older. He asks me how he's doing, I tell him fine, that he is still sensitive in those fingers, and there isn't anything else we can do.

He goes on then says he needs an update from his doctor stating he has 'Tingling' in his fingers, I told him, 'When did I ever say he had tingling, How in the hell am I to know, he can't speak?' He says, 'Well, your the one that said he's sensitive.' I told him, 'Yes, but at no time did I say he has tingling. You need to stop playing these games, I have asked people to come here to witness this conversation.' I also told him that he could contact my son's infant and toddler program he's in. He then gets an attitude and says, 'OK, I'll take their number too. By the way, why is your son being seen by them?' I told him, 'It was personal and didn't involve him.'

I gave him the number, told him who to speak with, and their address. He then tells me, 'Well, I'll talk to these people and get back to you after I do.' I said, 'Wait a minute, I was told by IHOP that you would be calling me to arrange a settlement.' He then says, 'Well, First I need to find out if he'll need further treatments.' I said, 'I told you and they will tell you, they don't know, it may be years before we know.' He then says, 'Well, I DON'T settle cases on infants. Infants always heal, he'll be fine. We might pay for future treatment, but that's it.' I said, 'Excuse me? First off, you didn't pay for the original bills, his insurance did. Secondly, don't take me for an idiot, IHOP is going to provide my son with something just. They were neglectful, rude and ignorant.' He say, 'So, I still won't do anything.' I said, 'OK, You'll have to speak to my attorney from this point on. I have been more than nice, not anymore.'

I've since spoken with several attorney's, appearently they have no clue as to what I can sue them for, the people I can sue, etc. Please, understand this this is not about what my son will get out of this, but what they did to him and the attitude I've received from them. My son has permenent scares, they can't take them away. There isn't anything they can do to make him better. But treating us as if we did something wrong and that IHOP and their employees are not at fault only angers me at this point.

Update

Submitted: 9/26/2002 8:35:52 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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IHOP knows exactly what they are doing.

I did get an attorney for my son. Turns out, IHOP gets a slap on the wrist, per say. We can only sue them for a 'Friendly suit', and would have to sign a waiver, that when our son is no longer a minor, he can not sue IHOP for liability and other things.

Appearently IHOP must do this quite often. Amazingly, they know how to get past being responsible for their actions. I still will sue them on behalf of my son, and any money he receives, we will put into an account for him. But I will inform the local papers of their actions, that should stir up some unwanted attention.

Update

Submitted: 10/19/2002 5:55:15 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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IHOP insurance company says it's my toddler sons fault!!!

I received a letter from the insurance company for IHOP today. The insurance companies information is: Cotter, Neimeier & Lynch Insurance Adjusters Company. 5023B Backlick Road Annandale, VA 22003 (703)658-0905.

First the letter goes on about my sons Developemental Disability which mind you he had no probelms until after this accident, now is serverly disabled. He went to my sons SI and PT for his preliminary report. He didn't have this right, for starters. I signed NO waiver for him to get any information from them.

Then he states they've paid his medical bills of $70. That to is not true, my son's insurance company paid these bills in full, not to mention all his medications.

Now, this is the funny part. It reads: 'I have spoken to the carrier and they have allowed me due to the age of ?????? and the fact that he is small and probally did not realize the consequences of grabbing for the gravy, to offer you $750 for a full andf final settlement of his bodily injury claim.'

Is this man that stupid? My son would not have grabbed the gravy if the moran didn't place it in front of him. At 15 months, if you put anything in front of a small child they will pick up or play with it. I can not believe they want to blame this on my son. That's OK though, we've signed with an attorney that is planning to take this as far as possible to see to it that IHOP is so neglectful again. I hope my son receives all he can and IHOP pays out of the a**. The more I think about how egotistical and arogant this Ned Cotter is, the more I want my son to provail.

Update

Submitted: 10/19/2002 5:56:14 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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IHOP insurance company says it's my toddler sons fault!!!

I received a letter from the insurance company for IHOP today. The insurance companies information is: Cotter, Neimeier & Lynch Insurance Adjusters Company. 5023B Backlick Road Annandale, VA 22003 (703)658-0905.

First the letter goes on about my sons Developemental Disability which mind you he had no probelms until after this accident, now is serverly disabled. He went to my sons SI and PT for his preliminary report. He didn't have this right, for starters. I signed NO waiver for him to get any information from them.

Then he states they've paid his medical bills of $70. That to is not true, my son's insurance company paid these bills in full, not to mention all his medications.

Now, this is the funny part. It reads: 'I have spoken to the carrier and they have allowed me due to the age of ?????? and the fact that he is small and probally did not realize the consequences of grabbing for the gravy, to offer you $750 for a full andf final settlement of his bodily injury claim.'

Is this man that stupid? My son would not have grabbed the gravy if the moran didn't place it in front of him. At 15 months, if you put anything in front of a small child they will pick up or play with it. I can not believe they want to blame this on my son. That's OK though, we've signed with an attorney that is planning to take this as far as possible to see to it that IHOP is so neglectful again. I hope my son receives all he can and IHOP pays out of the a**. The more I think about how egotistical and arogant this Ned Cotter is, the more I want my son to provail. How can they possibly put a price, and this small of an amount for that, on what they did?

Update

Submitted: 10/29/2002 9:14:24 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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They want to settle for pennies!

I recieved a letter over the weekend from Cotter Insurance, IHOP's insurance company. In this letter they state that they've paid his doctor bills, not true, my son's insurance company took care of them. Then they state that the insurance company and IHOP feels that because of my sons age, he didn't know the consequences of putting his hand in the gravy and as a result would like to offer us $750 for full and final payment.

What a joke! I still can't get over the fact that they refuse to even apologise for what happened. And then to still blame a 15 month old for the server placing the food in front of him. It's unbelievable how rude, egotistical and disrespectful this resturant is.

I sent a return letter stating that we still want an apology and they will definately have to do better. Otherwise, my attorney can go ahead and take this to court. I don't care anymore, I'm through with these a**holes.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 10/31/2002 2:02:50 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Lou

Cincinnati, Ohio

Um...what's the problem?

You should take the $750.00 and run with it. They're being more than generous. I doubt you'd find any jury that would believe your story.

According to you, IHOP is serving gravy that is hot enough to make skin bubble and blister, plus it resisted attempts to wipe it off. That sounds more like napalm than gravy.

Update

Submitted: 11/3/2002 2:45:43 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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Lou; you have to be an IHOP moron!!!

You would definately have to be an IHOP moran or one of their insurance companies. Only a moran would say something that stupid! I take it you must not be able to read very well. Let me sum this whole thing up for someone of your little intellectual ability:

1) The server placed a plate of HOT GRAVY in front of my 15 month old,

2) While he was screaming, she walked away, never saying a word, etc.,

3) We TRYED to wipe it off, it stuck to his hands causing 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree burns,

4) We had to use alot of cold wet towels to remove the gravy, his hands WERE blistered and bubbling from the burns, I take it you've never seen anyone that was ever burned.

Finally, to be stupid enough to say, 'No jury would ever believe you, blah, blah, blah.' As I have stated many many times, we have witnesses to this incident. And if you had any brains at all, you would know that 1) A friendly lawsuit is settled out of court, 2) This is a civil case, otherwise, and a jury would not be used.

I also take it by your comments that you appearently have no children. I truely hope someday you do, and this happens to them. Then you can put your report on this site so that I can rebuttal: 'Take the pennies they offer you and run.'

You seriously need to get a life.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 11/7/2002 6:50:42 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Jim

New York, New York

You truly deserve every penny of that $750.00

'I truely (sic) hope someday you do (have children), and this happens to them.' What a great parent you must be.

Of course a friendly lawsuit is settled out of court. But if you want anything more than allegedly offered you'll need to at least see a judge and/or a jury.

Oh yeah, the jury! What makes you think juries aren't convened for civil cases? What lawyer is giving you advice?

And you misspelled 'moron', among other words. Were you trying to be ironic?

ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 11/9/2002 3:49:11 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

Samantha

San Fernando, California

I nominate you for Mom of the Year (not!)

How is it going to help your child by calling everyone who disagrees with you a moron? This all could have been avoided if you and your clan could control your animal instincts long enough to keep from stuffing your faces and watch over your (that's right YOUR) children.

And if I H O P is serving this super hot food, at least on the day you were there, how come no one else (like your 'witnesses') had their mouths burned? Even conceding the age of your child, and (reluctantly) conceding that he/she had 3rd degree burns, an adult would get at least 1st degree burns.

I agree with the one poster. Take the money and run.

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 11/10/2002 7:35:17 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Brandon

Mesa, Arizona

What the hell???

You, Samantha, apparently have NO kids. You see, if you take your eyes off of them for even a second...well, many things can be done in such a short amount of time by a child. I personally don't have kids either, but it's a common sense thing that kids are curious, espically at 3 years old, and you can't watch them 100 percent of the time, and, unfortinately these are the consequences. So, once again, we have an uneducated person making comments on here about things they have absolutely no idea about. Next time, before you shove your foot in your mouth, think about what you say...

Update

Submitted: 11/11/2002 10:04:23 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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To Jim & Samantha

You people make me sick. I'm a bad mother because I wished this on you, I'm sorry what grade are you in? And if Samantha could read, instead of throwing insults from her ihop job, she would have read that NONE of us ate anything because of what happened. The fact of the matter is, IHOP caused this, not my son, not myself, nor my family, nor my friends. And for your misinformation and unableness to read, we were watching our son, one of use grabbed the plate and the other grabbed my son's hand. But we can not babysit the server too.

She was very stupid and neglectful. Maybe IHOP shouldn't hire people who make this careless of a mistake. I'm calling the rude rebuttalists morons, because your comments could only have come from an IHOP employee or a die hard IHOP customer. And anyone would tell you, that makes you a very sad and pathetic individual.

Oh, don't let me forget the comment of IHOP not serving food that hot, IHOP like any other resturant or fast food chain serves food hot, duh!?! And to a 15 month old, their skin is very senative at this age and can burn that easily. Like I've said, you all appearently have no children. If you do, I feel very sorry for them.

Now, as to the comments from Jim on 'friendly lawsuits', 48 or 50 are settled out of court, there is no need for a judge. And no, you do not have to see a judge and/or jury for anything over the alleged amount, you only go that far if a nogotiation has not been meet. Wow, your state must think it's special and be differnet from all others. In a civil case of this matter, a jury is never used. The judge rectifies all final decisions. If an appeal is made by the lossing parties, then yes, a jury can be REQUESTED. But even then, it must be approved by the judge hearing the case, and still, that is usually denied. Why waist tax payers money on a trial? I am versed in the law, so yes, I do know what I'm talking about.

And we all know that IHOP was resently made aware that this report was made, that's why I have no doubt, you people are IHOP responders. Goes to show how intellegent IHOP and their people are!

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 11/12/2002 1:29:53 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Pele

Atlanta, Georgia

Sh!t Happens - Get Over It

At first I sided with you, but the more I read, the more details came out and the more this began to sound like just another outrageously litigious situation gone far out of hand.

You act as if you want to milk this for all it's worth financially and that's not only unethical but a pretty piss poor lesson to be teaching your child.

You are not entitled to anymore than this cost you out of pocket, if anything at all. The fact is that (if you'll forgive my use of the vernacular) sh*t happens. Accidents occur and sometimes we just have to move on. The fact that IHOP is offering you anything at all is amazing. I can't possibly imagine a scenario in which one would recieve food so hot as to cause the kind of permanent scarring and 'sensitivity' as you describe. It's simply not possible. At most that food was 200 degrees and while very hot that's hardly hot enough to cause the kind of 'suffering' you describe.

I'm sure it did hurt and I'm sure your son screamed and was in a great deal of pain, but you know what? Kids learn from experience.

He was not permanently harmed and he will most likely not be permanently scarred either. At 15 months he has a lot of growing to do and his little body can heal itself rather well.

Take what they're offering you and stop trying to make money on your son's unfortunate accident. People like you disgust me.

Pele - who is neither employed by, nor a customer of, IHOP.

PS You'd do well to employ a spell/grammar check if you're going to insult others' intelligence, otherwise you end up looking like the uneducated types you claim those who disagree with you are.

Update

Submitted: 11/13/2002 2:18:01 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
Update

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EDitor's Comment: ..Totally in support of the victim

I have read the original report above and all of the rebuttals to it so far. What you and your child have had to go through is bad enough without having to endure the rebuttals these people have submitted so far.

I don't even have a child, never will, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how tender fragile & delicate the skin of an infants is.

I don't know how anyone could be so disconnected, but all of the people who have rebutted your report so far are completely ignorant to the facts and completely disregard them. They also don't understand how a tub of gravy, which is sitting directly on a hot burner all day long can scald an infant.

The last thing a waitress does before serving is put the gravy in the serving container and bring it to you with your meal. They do this due to the fact that the air temperature thickens the gravy very quickly and forms a gel like film or coating on top. The gravy gets more unappetizing by the second.

The gravy is taken directly from the pot which sits submerged in boiling water all day long for a waitress to help herself to as she is on her way to serving you.

The gravy does cake and stick onto everything; just look at the side of the container its in, or the caked on ladle you use. It's one of the hardest things a dishwasher has to remove from the utensils. I completely understand how it would instantly begin to harden on a baby's skin (or anything else that's at 98 degree temperature).

She was doing as she was trained by pouring the gravy right before serving. She wants your tip, she's not going risk giving you gravy that will form a film before you have even used it.

The waitress was completely negligent to place the hottest container that they serve directly in front of your infant. On top of that for the waitress to just walk away after that happened and the way the manager handled this shows that neither are remotely qualified for the jobs. IHOP is responsible for this. Tuff crap for these franchises that are too cheap to ensure that they hire quality. That's what they are asking for in they're greed. Let's hope it costs them more than it would have if they would have paid a just salary.

Wow! The people who wrote the previous rebuttals don't even see it in themselves, but they are the type who'll quickly pounce on a victim. To them I give a quote from Frank Zappa 'you are dumb all over and a little ugly on the side'. (I must emphasize the ugly as far as all the rebuttals submitted go so far.

How can they disregard medical records of 2nd & 3rd degree burns on an infant? Yet they are attacking you as a mother! The audacity that these people have telling you from the other end of their computer that they have come to the conclusion that this won't leave permantent damge or scars. How could they possibly know?

Let's hope they never get around children, as their ignorance would most likely be reckless and dangerous. Plus they obviously have a tendency to be cold hearted and have little to no compassion, which wouldn't be good for raising a child either.

I find it very disturbing that these particular humans who wrote these former rebuttals show more compassion for the giant corporation, than a tiny severely burned infant.

I'm thinking, 'all the nerves in your poor baby's hand' ..the reults of damaged nerve endings could last for the rest of his life as not all damged nerve endings come back.

They think 'Oh that poor multi million dollar corporation's insurance should not be held responsible for an accident.

My heart goes out to you and your son very much. I wish you both the best.

ED Magedson
EEDitor@ripoffreport.com

ConsumerSuggestion

Submitted: 11/13/2002 12:11:09 PM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerSuggestion

TheFraudChick@aol.com

Ethics, Arkansas

Resist responding to this post ....

April,

I want to begin this post with a few facts:

1. I don't work for IHOP
2. I don't have children
3. I have never eaten at an IHOP and don't plan to since I don't like pancakes.

Now, on to my comments and suggestions. You're very angry and frustrated right now and I can sympathize with you. Some of the previous posts were not lashing out at you. I believe they were valid suggestions. I'm sorry to learn you've obtained an attorney because that means he will get a portion of a very small sum. I have some experience with corporations paying consumer claims. Your “settlement" won't be high because your child placed his hand in the gravy. I understand your point that the server should not have placed the gravy in front of the toddler—but the server did not spill the gravy on the toddler. Claims adjusters tend to apply a percentage of responsibility to the parties involved, that means you, other adults at the table, the server and the infant. You should probably get something for your anguish. The $750 offer sounds typical and it makes me want to wretch that your attorney will get part of that. If you had waited a few months and worked through the corporate office you may have that amount to yourself. The money is yours, not a simpleton attorney who “may" have taken your case because he knew he could get $750 to $1,500 from the corporate office to “make you go away." All it costs the attorney is a phone call or the cost of a stamp. It cost your infant pain and you anguish—it's not right.

My suggestion to you is to not to respond to me or any others on this site from this point on. I know that you're frustrated and I wish I could make that part go away for you. But you've already gone to an attorney so you have more “ickiness" ahead of you. It must feel wonderful to vent and let all of that frustration out. But a savvy IHOP attorney can use your posts against you. Most likely the one where you wished this incredible agony you described on someone else's child. An innocent child—what would a jury think of that?

Resist responding to this post and hope no one at IHOP finds this post series.

Good Luck,

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 11/14/2002 9:56:03 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Melissa

Saint Louis, Missouri

I agree with our EDitor.

I find it disheartening to know some people would
rather blame the victim (or the victim's mother)
than blame the idiot who wronged the family.

My child is five and she knows not to put
something hot in front of a small child. But, this
obviously uneducated, uncouth, white-trash
waitress did not know. She is paid to not only
serve food but serve it safely.

If she would've put a coffee cup at the edge of the table and it fell on the infant would it be much different?

No because either way the waitress was negligible
in her duties. That's like putting something very tasty or pretty, and dangerous in front of a child and expecting them not to touch it. Like prescription drugs that look like most candies. You can't leave stuff laying around because a child's curiosity is easily piqued. Even a mildly retarded person knows not to put harmful things in a babies path.

IHOP should pay. They should take responsiblity
for the waitresses mistake and learn from it. I
say, for the way they treated the mother, sue the
crap out of them.

So what if bacon costs two bucks a strip. You may be able to save another child. And though it will not heal your son, or make his scars disappear, it will help with rehabilitation.

Maybe they should train the rest of the
common-sense impaired waitresses about safety.

Maybe the reason these other inbreds side with
IHOP is because they, themselves have not been
taught about accountability and responsiblity.

Maybe they've been taught to blame everyone else
when the obvious person at fault is their own self.

Never blame the victim. That's what's wrong
with most American's today. Blame blame blame,
make excuse apon excuse. But most of all, point
the finger elsewhere so no one will look at you.
Ya'll suck!

ConsumerComment

Submitted: 11/15/2002 1:53:21 AM

Modified: 12/10/2002 12:47:00 AM
ConsumerComment

Linda

Eden Prairie, Minnesota

Name calling is useless when faced with the truth

The Rip Off Report is a loud and positive voice for an often over-matched consumer. That being said, the Editors' rebuttal to this thread is no more than the standard power-to-the-people rhetoric found at other lesser consumer websites. The Rip Off Report professes to stick up for and protect the consumer. I wonder if it considers frivolous lawsuits and name-calling vital to consumer protection.

The complainant alleges wrongdoing by IHOP, and indifference by IHOP in their attempts to resolve the situation. Some 'rebuttalists' (?) question the claims of 3rd degree burns and the long-term effects, others take issue with the legal complexities of the incident, a few question the complainant's command (or lack thereof) of grammar and spelling.

First, let's clarify some things. The complainant's English skills, though confusing and at times amusing (misspelling 'moron' and 'intelligent') are not relevant to the discussion. Also irrelevant to thew issue is whether or not someone has kids. What difference does that make?

The Editors' description of how the food is served, if it were true, would be plausible enough to explain the alleged charring and blistering of the toddler's skin. Gravy tubs don't sit on a hot burner all day, nor do they sit in boiling water, as the Editor puts forth. Water boils at 212 degrees, and at that temperature it rolls and bubbles. No one sets their steam