Report: #1050806

Complaint Review: Rob Fornander aka Win819 llc

  • Submitted: Tue, May 14, 2013
  • Updated: Tue, May 14, 2013
  • Reported By: Denny (s.a. tx.) — Converse Texas
  • Rob Fornander aka Win819 llc
    1301 Banner Ave.
    Edmond, Oklahoma

Rob Fornander aka Win819 llc In Association w/ The Iretas Group (Unlimited Prepay Dist.) Beware of the above Groups of People representing the "FREE" Lifeline Cell Phone program Edmond Oklahoma

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The Iretas Group is Not associated.

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Rob Fornander who does business under an LLC of Win819 llc out of Oklahoma and he recruits people all over the USA promising different amounts of commissions to various people to provide "FREE" Cell phones via the government Lifeline Cell Phone programs.

He specifically contacted me to head up the State of Texas initially as a Business Development Mgr. over Texas representing the Safelink Wireless program.

At the time he failed to inform me that he was a middel person in association with a company called The Iretas group who I have since been informed is owned by Unlimited Prepay Distributors (UPD).

I began by developing a staff throughout San Antonio, TX. who went out and set up events providing the "FREE" Cell phones via the Safelink Wireless program.

Commissions were intially to be $8.00 paid to me for each approved application and then I would be responsible to comepnsate the agents underneath me.

I received no reporting after many requests so I could track earned commissions and within a short time ( 7 to 10 days) I was contacted by Mr. Fornander who then wanted to renegotiate his contract with me because he stated his arrangement with The Iretas Group et al had broken down so now he wanted to go direct on his own but he needed someone with the financial ability to cash flow the business until payment would be received every 30 days or so.

Based on certain representations by Mr. Fornander, we renegotiated my commissions to be $13 to $17 depending on total volume of approved applications on a National scale and that I would be the overall Operations Director and manage all groups Nationwide while Mr. Fornander concentrated on recruiting and signing up agents all over the USA.

A formal contract was drafted by Mr. Fornander as well as a promissory note "Personally" guranteed by both Mr. Fornander as well as his wife who is a member of Win819 llc for all monies that would be due and owed via the $13 to $17 per approved application schedule based on total volume.

Note:  This all occured between April 01, 2013 through April 25, 2013 and the new contract was dated April 04, 2013 and replaced all previous agreements, verbal or written.

In the meantime, my agents in San Antonio, TX. continued to work events and attend various functions and submitted applications to Safelink Wireless while waiting patiently for accounting and monies due from Win 819 llc.

On approx. April 26, 2013 I received several urgent e-mails from Mr. Fornander stating that his new deal with the master agent for Safelink Wireless whose name I will omit because they are not a party to this complaint, had also supposedly fallen apart so now Mr. Fornander had nobody that he was associated with nor had he sent any reporting nor had he paid a single dime to myself for monies due and owed.

I severed my business dealings with Mr. Fornander at the end of April as a result of his fraudulent inducement into not one but two contracts, his failure to honor  the first and/or the revised contract and his failure to pay as agreed for the month of April, 2013.

On May 04, 2013 I sent Mr. Fornander an e-mail asking for a full reporting and all monies due and owed and he sent a response claiming he had ACH'd it into my account.

I began advising mr. Fornander that no such ACH had appeared in my account and on May 14, 2013 I sent yet another e-mail again demanding a full accounting and monies to be paid and he sent back a response now claiming he had mailed it.

This complaint is only being filed as a result of the lies being stated by Mr. Fornander and the fact he has now blocked any e-mails I send and now is alleging some sort of harrassment by myself for simply demanding what is due and owed.

I encourage anybody that has either done business with Mr. Fornander and/or anybody that is currently doing business with him or any Organization that he may be associated with to do their due diligence before something like what happened to me and my innocent staff who I by the way paid out of my own pocket so they didn't provide services without being compensated by me and my company.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

The Iretas Group is Not associated.

AUTHOR: The Iretas Group - ()

The Iretas Group is NOT associated with Rob Fornander any claims made about Rob are based solely against him. The Iretas Group is NOT owned by unlimited prepay distribution. 

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