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Complaint Review: Robert Woodruff - Nationwide

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  • Reported By: Maat — North Charleston South Carolina USA
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Robert Woodruff and Stephanie Woodruff; Robert Woodruff Investing Inc.President of the North American REIA GroupServices for Real Estate Pros / Charleston, SC Woodruff Family the biggest ripoff family in South Carolina RE Investors BEWARE Charleston SC Nationwide

*General Comment: Show Yourself. Stop Hiding!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Robert Woodruff.... once again lying and trying to hide the truth!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Fake Profile by The REAL Jim Shead

*Consumer Comment: Stay away from these crooks!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Quitters Never Win & Winners Never Quit

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In Septemebr 2015 my husband and I decided that we wanted to start investing inthe Real Estate. After researching different type of investments we thought that investing in Mobile Homes would fit our criteria. Second step was to find someone that has the expertise and that would be willing to teach/coach us. Mr. Woodruff profile popped on numerous times in our searches. Becasue Mr. Woodruff was local with what appeared to be extensive investing portofolio, testimonials and plus the President of the North American Real Estate Group, after researching him and his company and finding nothing substantial to raise a red flag, we contacted him.

When my husband spoke with Mr. Woodruff, herelayed to him his investing strategy because he was interested in long term cash flow. Mr. Woodruff assured his husband that his program "Mobile Home Financial Freedom Cash Flow Package" would meet those needs. Next step was speaking with with the treasure of Charleston REIA [Ms. Stepanie Woodruff] to provide payment for the materials and the coaching program. 

On Spetemebr 29, 2015 my husband signed signed up for the program which was to be for a total of $9, 997.00. Ms. Stephanie Woodruff assured that there was a money back guarentee becseu they wanted the program to work for students. 

On October 1, 2015 the packaged material arrived which Ms. Woodruff sent. When we start going through the material provided we noticed that it had multiple typos, it was outdated (copyright 2011) and that the material was not sufficient to meet the goal from what Mr. Woodruff and my husband had discussed on Septemebr 16, 2015 before purchasing the material. Besides being outdated it didnot comply with the latest (Dodd/Frank and Safe Act) that was approved sometimes 2014. 

On October 5, 2015, my husband sent an email to Ms. Woodruff informing about his desire not to move forward with the coaching program and that he would like to exercise the money back guarantee that they spoke of on Sept. 29, 2015 and he mentioned that he could send all materials back to her immediately if she would provide an address. 

Ms. Woodruff never never responded to that email nor followed up by phone to address his concerns. Days after sending the initial email my husband finally got a hold of Mr. Woodruff and told him that the progrm was not Dodd Frank and Safe Act compliance. Mr. Woodruff said that the law was a grey area & that it is unconstitutional, then he put my husband on speaker phone with Mr. Woodruff, who was agitated and rude.

That was the last conversation my husband had with Woodruff family. They never refunded us our money or made any attempt in resolving the situation. 

I'm writing this report as a warning for future investors that are thinking to work with this family: please proceed with cautious and protect yourself, your family and your money. If ou proceed with this people ask for money back guarantee form with clear timeframes & guidelines. Keep in minf this people are trained to put "clause" in contracts so if you have a lawyer friend to consult on this please do. 

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#5 General Comment

Show Yourself. Stop Hiding!

AUTHOR: Kevin - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, December 22, 2016

Who is this certain Maat? or Michael? If all of these accussations are true, come out and show us yourself! Me and my son who is also in the same industry, have been members in Mr. Robert Woodruffs' organization. Bobby and the group have a clean intention of helping others learn what we need to learn. I get to learn new things, got to know open-minded people, and the group never failed to help me and support me everytime. I never regret having known this family.

I would defintely say these are all FALSE and a pure defamation. If you are true enough, then I challenge you to show us yourself. Stop using aliasis!

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#4 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Robert Woodruff.... once again lying and trying to hide the truth!

AUTHOR: Michael - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 25, 2016

Here goes Bobby Woodruff making crap up again claiming I am someone named Jim Shead. First off, I do not know who Jim Shead is, and second, if he ripped you off.... then "what goes around comes around." Getting back to the content of the information i first wrote about. Bob Woodruff and his wife Stephanie Woodruff (former chiropractor from what I can see and no longer has a license to practice) have been scamming people for years. They are likeable and funny people which is how they get you to "trust" them and then lie and steal from you. After watching some of their "reality" videos on Vimeo, I noticed that they make mention of some assisted living facilities and after much due diligence I found some really interesting information about Stephanie Woodruff. It turns out she has an LLC, called Florida Assisted Living, LLC that operates a "retirement home" out of Jacksonville, Florida. If you read the inspection reports on that place you will find that she has been fined and cited numerous times. After reading through them, I do not know how in the world it is still open and shame on her for treating people that way. Here is a link to the page from Florida's Agency for Healthcare Administration (floridahealthfinder.gov/facilitylocator/FacilityProfilePage.aspx?id=374370) In those reports you will find that her employees are poorly trained, she lacks required documentation, lies to state inspectors, fails to maintain the property and allows these poor retirees to live in horrible conditions. It even has one report showing that there was no heat in the house and the temperature fell to 54 degrees! Could you imagine your loved ones living in a house in those kind of conditions??? Don't believe me... here's the link to the inspection report. apps.ahca.myflorida.com/dm_web/DMWeb_Docs/6708136.pdf  As I mentioned from my previous report, you can go to Charleston County, SC Clerk of Courts webpage and type in "Woodruff" and find all kinds of cases against them from foreclosures, failure to pay rent/people/etc., to whatever. I'm not a lawyer so I cannot understand half the details. Here is a link to the Charleston County, SC Clerk of Courts webpage for you to search for yourself. jcmsweb.charlestoncounty.org/PublicIndex/PISearch.aspx

So getting back to the Woodruff family. Seeing all this information about her apparent lack of ability to run an assisted living facility (or retirement home or whatever), why does she claim to be an expert in this industry? According to one document she actually told (lied) a state inspector that she "owns assisted living facilities all over the US". For anyone who actually knows her, runs into her or sees her at one of her events.... why not ask her exactly how many of these facilities she "actually owns"? I'd be interested to see how many she "actually" owns. On top of that, if you were to show her these reports and ask her about them, what would she say? I bet you she would try to lie through her teeth. Its one thing to run a non-healthcare related business like crap as she does very well, but its completely unacceptable, immoral, and down right despicable to run a retirement home like she does and I hope she is never able to run one again. Remember, this information is FACT not opinion. Secondly, with all of the lawsuits and court cases against these two involving real estate, why would you trust your money with them??? They are obviously not experts NOR millionaires and will only lie to your face while stealing your money!! For all of you who know this couple.... why not ask them about all of these lawsuits, charges, foreclosures, citations, fines, etc? I bet you they have never disclosed this information and will do their best to lie their way out of them or change the subject to get the focus off of them.

I am sure BOB will come on here again claiming I am someone else.... but what does it matter "WHO I AM"???? I love how Bob went off on how "Jim Shead" wrote negative attacks on his family, wife, blah blah blah... BUT never failed to mention any of the information concerning all of his LEGAL TROUBLE!!! So Bob when you write back about this rebuttal... why not go ahead and explain all of your legal troubles and your wife's inability to run a retirement home? When you eventually get forced out of the real estate industry, you should seriously look into a career in politics. You would be great at it!

In closing, I AM NOT asking for money, looking for fame or business,... I am simply providing anyone who reads this links to information about the TRUE Bob (Bobby, Robert, Rob....) and Stephanie Woodruff. I hope anyone who reads this takes the time to click on the links and do a little research FIRST! If you still choose to give them your money.... well you can't "fix stupid" and no sympathy for you! If this helps you please spread the word so that NO ONE else will ever lose money on these SCAM ARTISTS!!!!!

TAGS: THE KEYS TO CASH FLOW, CHARLESTON REAL ESTATE INVESTORS ASSOCIATION, FLORIDA ASSISTED LIVING, LLC., 

 

 

 

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fake Profile by The REAL Jim Shead

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2016

This Michael person is actually a fake profile created by Jim Shead. Jim Shead is not a student of ours. He is a played-out national speaker who recently scammed the Charleston REIA with a fake "feeding starving children" event. He lied and manipulated the organization for over a year before exacting his "feeding starving children" event scam. He used an old list of ours to create a real estate investing group in Charleston and named it nearly the same exact name of our group and even held his first few meetings in our exact same hotel room. That was last year and by now he has burnt all of his bridges in the Charleston area and the Charleston REIA is performing better than ever. Jim takes personal threat to this and therefore as a 55 year old man-baby, he spends his time creating fake profiles online and slandering good people and organizations. He see's it as a potential way to steer more people to his fake predatory organization. Hence why he mentioned in his fake profile gibberrish that houses are the only way to make money safely and clearly has no idea what it means to own multiple businesses. Take time to read back through the fake post and check all the ugliness for what it is; the REAL Jim Shead. Finally, the facad has fallen and we get to see him for who he truly is.

Despite all of his negative antisocial personality remarks; ie, personal attacks, attacks on my lovely family, wife, training, videos, etc. We have heard that any press is good press and it appears that he put a lot of work into his fake scam post so we thank him for all the hard work. We forgive Jim for his trespasses, lies, manipulations, and all the things that he has done and continues to do to hurt and make less of our great organization, our community, my loving family and all of our intentions & endeavors. No good deed goes unpunished by the wicked. After our recent weekend training on the manifestations of the antisocial personality and how to remove these troublesome indivduals, we understand that individuals with this type of personality cannot change for the better.

Our hearts go out to persoanlity types who are incapable of change for the better. The deep seeded hurt these people experience everyday to make them act and say what they do must be paralyzing. I can only imagine their torment. For more information on how to protect your self, your family, businesses, or organization from antisocial personalities, you can find some really good information online for free here.. http://tipsforsuccessblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/tipsforsuccess-people-who-want-you-to_08.html This training comes in 5 parts. I suggest you read them all and take some time to reflect who these people are and how they have effected your life and business. It behooves good people to undertand the manifestations of the antisocial personality and their destructive effects.

To Your Continued Success,

Robert & Staff  

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#2 Consumer Comment

Stay away from these crooks!

AUTHOR: Michael - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 02, 2016

I feel bad for the couple that lost almost $10k but I hope this is a lesson for anyone else who thinks about dealing with the Woodruff family. This couple prays on innocent people with their fancy talk of making millions on disgusting mobile homes. I love their pictures online of them standing next to a jet. Is that your jet Bob or did you sneak onto a private airfield with your Miami Vice sport coat? Oh and take a look at one of "Bob's" videos titled "Woody Deals" on how he's gonna make money on some single wide trailer. Just watching the video makes me laugh as this guy clearly has no clue about what it takes to remodel a home much less a mobile home. I love the part when he describes how to fix old dented trailer underpinning and how "we can just bend it back out and put a screw in it." That easy huh? Bob are you going to go all around the whole aluminum sided trailer and "bend it back" and put some screws in it? I bet it look like a million bucks when you are done with it. Oh and remember drywall is only $10-12 a sheet. Got a hole in the wall. $10-12 later and its good as new. I guess he forgot to add in the drywall tape, joint compound, sand paper, primer, paint and oh I forgot, LABOR! Enough of his trailer mess. Back to the Woodruff couple. If you are seriously interested in what kind of people they are I would suggest you go to all of the county websites in the state of SC and type in their names. Keep in mind Bob likes to refer to himself as "Robert", "Bob", "Bobby" etc. Not only will you find he and his wife have MULTIPLE legal actions against them, the number of LLCs they have created is ridiculous. I think these guys were part of the the original Ginsu knife company. They file bankruptcy and then sell the same crap with a different name. For the county in which they live here is the link to the county court records. http://jcmsweb.charlestoncounty.org/publicindex   Just type in Woodruff and you'll find a ton of cases against them. Don't stop your searches at just Charleston county, check the counties all around SC. Apparently now they are Nursing Home experts are something. According to one website, www.assistedlivinginvesting.com  Mrs. Woodruff makes MILLIONS with her nursing homes. I'm not sure how many she owns, if she owns any at all, but I'm sure that's a scam too. Stay away from these people and their crooked real estate schemes. If you want to own property the safe way, save your money and buy properties to flip or rent. I will not fall for these peoples get rich schemes again and I hope no one else does either.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Quitters Never Win & Winners Never Quit

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, February 19, 2016

 #1. This report has a fictitious name. #2. The person writing it was not involved in the transaction, agreement, with the back office staff, or mentorship program. #3. Who is correct or right in this matter has already been decided by a third party; our internet merchant and Robert Woodruff's party won the chargeback. This is why you are reading this report. This individual made a "partial nonrefundable deposit" on services, fees, and materials received. Instead of returning materials, Individual kept materials and filed for a "full" chargeback. The individual stopped making payments for services therefore no additional services will be rendered. Individual was informed by staff that if they continue to make payment, services will continue to be rendered. We appreciate your business as we do ours. To your continued success, Robert and Staff. Ps. The Keys to Cash Flow system and Robert have been training real estate investors for over 7 years with better student results than any other training in the industry. To learn more about how these materials and specialized training can make a difference in your life; visit this page for student testimonials... http://www.robertwoodruffinvesting.com/testimonials/ We appreciate your business.

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