Safe National of America Factory Defects St. Petersburg, Florida

On top of the ssl certificate issue, has anyone besides me actually looked at their terms and conditions.

In their terms and conditions, safe national mentions the "microsoft live cashback program". I personally contacted Microsoft customer support. This program has not existed since July of 2008.

Microsoft is looking into it. Possible copyright infringement on top of everything else.

If you are going to playyour "Well I never said EXACTLY that" game..I will too. Your right you never specifically stated that that domain was registered with godaddy. But I NEVER said specifically thatit wasfrom the Canada. I stated that the REGISTRAR was from Canada. Which if you actually look up their contact info you would find that the address is as follows

DomainPeople, Inc.
Bentall 5, Suite 200
550 Burrard Street
Vancouver, BC
Canada V6C 2B5

Every post I have seen about this"company"(using that term very loosly)that mentions a site mentions "bestsavingsource.com". Yes at the bottom of that page is"best-savings-shop.com", and yes that is where the invalid certificate is registered with, and yes that is registered with GoDaddy.com. But that does not mean that ONLY scammers and spammers use GoDaddy. For what ever reason you appearto have a grudge against GoDaddy, as I have seen you make these same comments on other posts. I was strictly focusing on your statement that state that ONLY scammers and spammers use GoDaddy and that is not true.

There are also many more "red flags" totally unrelated to the registrar that would indicate a fraudulent site. I would be more suspect that the site has not even been around a year, and neither of these siteshave been. Put that in conjunction with that they do not have a valid certificate and that is an instant "red flag" regardless of the of the registrar.

Look I think that just about everyone around hereagrees that not only is the company "suspect", but so are all of these posts claiming that they were Ripped off.

There are MANY website postingsthat reference Safe National of America.

I NEVER said specifically that bestsavingsource.com was a GoDaddy.com site, did I?

Hint: Go to bestsavingsource.com, and look at the bottom of the home page and tell me what you see. Then check the domain registration info. Then check a few more of these ROR's and tell me what other sites are mentioned in relation to Safe National of America.

Look closely at all information before you jump in an hammer someone.

Anyway, the siteYOU are discussing is NOT registered in Canada, but right here in the US.

Here is the info on bestsavingsource.com

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Checking server [whois.crsnic.net]

Checking server [whois.domainpeople.com]
Results:
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Registration Service Provided By: Domain People
Contact: support@domainpeople.com

Domain name: bestsavingsource.com

Registrant Contact:
Nicholas Potter
Nicholas Potter ()

Fax:
111 2nd Avenue NE
St-Petersburg, FL 33701
US

Administrative Contact:
Nicholas Potter
Nicholas Potter (info.bestsavingsource@gmail.com)
+1.7472918946
Fax:
111 2nd Avenue NE
St-Petersburg, FL 33701
US

Technical Contact:
Nicholas Potter
Nicholas Potter (info.bestsavingsource@gmail.com)
+1.7472918946
Fax:
111 2nd Avenue NE
St-Petersburg, FL 33701
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.bestsavingsource.com
ns2.bestsavingsource.com

Creation date: 26 Aug 2010 05:43:00
Expiration date: 26 Aug 2011 00:43:00

These scammers use a GoDaddy.com PRIVATE domain registration service that keep the ID information on the registrants private.

- Well not totally incorrect, but misleading and not telling the entire story.

Yes, GoDaddy offers a private registration service. But guess what so doother registrars. You want proof go to one of the "grand"daddy's of registrars Network Solutionsand search for private registration. You will find that they offer this exact sameservice for $9.99 a year.Oh and GoDaddys price...$9.99 a year.

GoDaddy is ONLY used by spammers and scammers.

- You are incorrect again that it is only used by spammers and scammers. They are a cheaper alternative to other registrars in most cases(yes I am aware that the privacy was the same price), and are used by LEGITIMATE companies.

By the way these bogus reports are listing a domain bestsavingsource.com that is not Godaddy. If you actually looked at the whois database you would see that they are using a company called "Domain People" and their information is NOT private.

If you want to look to the domain to see who might be a scam. Look at the Country they are located in and when the domain was created.Theabove listedregistrar is out of Canada. I would be willing to bet that seeing a domain on any registrar that was created 2 days ago out of Canada has a bigger chance of being a scam than a company on GoDaddy in the US for 5 years.

It takes a COURT ORDER, and the payment of HUGE "administrative" fees to get ANY registrant info from GoDaddy.com

- And you really think any other registrar would be different?

Although it says not recommended. There are many sites like this. In the federal government, we have several websites with expired certificates and this warning is ignored. I wonder if it is really that important?

I have experienced no problems proceeding through it.

Robert is absolutely correct on this domain - "security" issue.

These scammers use a GoDaddy.com PRIVATE domain registration service that keep the ID information on the registrants private.

GoDaddy is ONLY used by spammers and scammers.

NO legitimate business would ever use a GoDaddy domain.

It takes a COURT ORDER, and the payment of HUGE "administrative" fees to get ANY registrant info from GoDaddy.com

RUN FAST from any "business" using a GoDaddy hosted domain / name registration.

You are reading a lot of reports because you are posting them. I have never heard of this company before but, you make me curious to see what it is all about.

You are not fooling anyone, if you have a legitimate complaint, post it, stop copying other reports and posting them as your own.

So you claim to have ordered something on line from bestsavingsource.com?

I dont think so.Only a fool would order anything from this website.

Tell us what happened when you clicked on the check out button while on their website.Tell us how you over rode the SSL Certificate ERROR WARNING when you attempted to proceed to the checkout to pay for your order. Take your time; we'll wait.

The SSL certificate they are using is EXPIRED and was issued for a different website: best-saving-shop.com.It seems they are too cheap to pay $125 for a correct and current SSL certificate.Further, they have their domain information hidden behind a domain proxy service so that consumers will not know the legal jurisdiction in which they operate. This makes it difficult to file complaints and sue these clowns should a dispute arise.

These issues are enough warning to any consumer to NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM THEIR WEBSITE; bestsavingsource.com