Schwans Ice Creams Food Want to work for slave pay? Work slave hours? Get slave treatment? The life of a Schwans Ice Cream driver the real truth. ripoff Nationwide

My story at Schwans. I had only 6hrs a sleep this week alone  try building with your own car that means Schwans can keep you out longer than 14  without the DOT on their back one more thing the General Manager can edit your hours  so yeah 80hr plus Ive been pulling 19hr days now.. And youre right I took a job with less pay to get out. I dont want to even get started talking about the stuff they make you do like working out in 120 degrees and passing out at a TLS and then telling your manger you need a doctor only for him to yell at you to stay out longer. For the people saying you choose to stay but it dont give Schwans the right to do what they do and that is work you Intel you burn out or get hurt or even die.  I was a nice person and full of energy not now my sanity is short to none now with no sleep and being isolated from everybody I love Family ordinated my *&* you will have no family working at schwans your better off working in fast food >>>Dopt Fond du lac WI General Manager should be Fired for unsafe conditions but as I read ripoff report its not just FDL but nationwide someone needs to step in not just DOT but Osha or someone and look at this company more closely with their shady behavior ..  

From what ive seen, the ones that are happy are not used to having more (that are with schwans). Heres my opinion. Everyone in my depot is ex oilfield so we all had to take HUGE paycuts when oil crashed this year to work here at schwans. We have quickly taken it to the top depot in the district as of late. But whats amazing is things like the longer than oilfield hours, for 1/3 pay, never getting to see your family, and just slave driven. I started after the 32k/year and bonus after 5850/week sales campaign started. Its still the lowest money i have ever made. There is one guy in my depot thats the TOP DOG, hes top ten in the company year in and year out in sales, his route is usually 11-12.5k/week. But he is by far the only one, this area is so hard hit by unemployment the last 6 months its rediculus, yet we are yelled at to push harder, work longer hours ( up to 14 by DOT daily), and keep bringin in sales. Its just rediculus, i see my lil boy for an hour in the morning if hes up early enough, and my wife for an hour in the evening before its to late to be up. Im usually at the depot by 8:30 or yelled at for being late, and dont get done till 9ish, by the time paperwork is done and i make my bank deposit and get home its 10:30. Its just depressing to hear schwans say how much a family company they are, when there is nooooo time for family while working for them. Im just biding my time till oilfield fires up again. Thanks

A freind suggested I should apply for a job with Schwans as their drivers were home every night. I have been a customer of this company off and on for many years so I decided to research before submitting an application. What I read explains why I have had so many different drivers & why we go weeks with out service at times. I am a very hard working person but would only be willing to put my knowledge and labor to work for a good company. I do not beleive this is a good company and after reading this page I will never be a customer again. I will not be a part of supporting a company that takes advantige of it's employees. Yes, maybe a few at the top are making a living but sounds like the avg. person is not. I've worked for employers like this before in my life and never again. This info I read pretty much matches what all the different drivers I have had through the years have said too. Unfortunatly sometimes an income is needed no matter how bad the working conditions. I can do my part by not supporting this company and spreading the word to freinds and family. If everyone does this the company will be forced to clean up their act or go out of buisness. Thanks for the info. You saved me alot of time!

Now I understand that almost all of these posts were made some time agoand I am under the impression that there have been some changes to Schwan's business structure & pay scalebut come on people, what did you really expect?!?! A good paying job with little to no experience that includes awesome benefits and 35-40 hour work weeks isn't going to just be handed to you. You have work your way up the food chain like everyone else!

My husband is in his 4th week with Schwan'sI already know what you're thinking, oh just waitshe doesn't know what she's talking about, she'll see how it really is later. But guess whatyeah, the hours are longand yeah, the benefits aren't the best in the worldand yeah, the drivers work their butts offand yeah, management expects them to do welland yeah, they might be given a crappy route that needs workand yeah, it may take awhile to build the route in order to make commission BUT let me let you in on a little secret---this was all put out there on the table when my husband was hired, so nobody should be complaining! One of the first questions out of the recruiter's mouth that initially called my husband washow are you with long hours?

This isn't rocket science guysI agree this job is not cut out for EVERYONE, no job is!! It takes a certain personality to be a successful CSM- and that includes dedication, responsibility, hard work, able to connect with perfect strangers, confidence, and the ability to grow from constructive criticism!

My husband was hired at a starting salary of $32,000he was told it could take 6-12 weeks to earn a route while training and proving to management that he is cut out for the job. It was also explained to him that the general hours consist of 9-9 m-f butthe guys with larger routes are out a little longer. Once a new hire has proven they are worthy, they are given their own route and a few weeks after thattheir base pay is moved up to $38,000. And you're right Wife #1the first goal in order to earn commission is $5,850 a week and it increases from thereup to $13,500 (I can't imagine anyone selling that much, but heyit's a goal and I heard it's been reached by a select few). As long as they meet the first tier of sales ($5,850) they earn 1% commission, now I know this doesn't seem like much but it can quickly add up and increase the yearly salary to $41,042. One more thinghe has also been made aware of the fact that they give you about a year to show progress and dedication and if you're not trying to build the business, just simply there to collect a paycheckyou will lose your position. Probably the reason for the constant Now Hiring signs on all of the trucks. Now I don't know about you butI know a lot of people who would do just about anything to find a job right now! And- as for the high turnover ratehe has one coworker who has been there for 11 years, one has been there for 5 years, and a few that have been there several yearsand these are just the ones that he has trained with and gotten to know.

My husband was laid off from his previous job a few months ago and after 3 months of submitting applications and resumes (just about every day)Schwan's was the first company to call him. Before they called he was contemplating getting 2-3 jobs just to make ends meetnow you tell me, how many hours a week would he work if that were the case? I don't like the fact that me and my kids don't get to see him every night of the weekbut you know what, he's home every morning to see the kids off to school and he's home on the weekends for family time! The long hours are just a small price to pay in order to provide for his family.

Oh yeahI forgot to mention- after his short 3 weeks of training he walked into the Depot yesterday only to be handed the keys to his truck and was officially given his own route!

I just wanted to thank everyone for their comments about employment at Schwan's. I have an interview with them this week that I will be cancelling TODAY!!
Thank you for saving me the heartache and pain!!

What the first guy said is 100% right. The job is horrible and the pay is ony good in the beginning till they take all your money from the step down program. Yes there are guys that make great money doing this but just like the reports on here for every 10 horrible routes there is maybe one good route that your making some money on. And the only guys who like this job are guys who dont like their home life. I love my wife and I love being home and schwans does now allow you to be home. My manager was Jeff Debacker...now not only was the guy the dumbest guy on the planet he would not allow me to come in till 9pm or I would get talked to. Trust me the people in here arent lying..they are slave drivers there. They are never happy no matter what you do. Stay away from this company unless you have no life and hate seeing your wife..which most schwan guys do.

I am a wife of a Schwans employee. When my husband started with Schwans he was made many promises. After 8 months he was finally put on a route. Unfortunately, it was in a high crime rate area. One of the previous route drivers had been robbed. So, needless to say, drivers did not stay on this route for long. My husband stuck with the route, and when a position on one of the flex routes opened he was offered that position. The flex schedule was great. Working opposite his partner, one week he worked form 7am to 3pm and the following week he worked 3pm to 10pm. With recent personnel changes at Schwans, flex routes were dissolved. My husband had put a lot of effort into his route. The man he took over for had dropped many good customers. My husband had to rebuild their trust, and eventually his portion of the route was running higher numbers then his partner's, who had been on the route longer. However, the DGM would not let them split the route, and my husband had to be moved to a different route, because his partner had more seniority. This change took effect in July, with a new pay system. If a CSM runs $5850 in 4 days he can have the 5th day off and have a weekly pay of $735. If the quota is not met in 4 days the CSM must run a 5th day. My husband was put on a route that averaged $300 to $500 a day. So, he is still not running $5850. He works 5 days a week for 14 hours, making the same $735 as the guys that got to keep their routes.

It is 9pm on a Friday night, and my husband just called to tell me he was on his hour drive back to the depot, where he will spend another hour organizing his truck, completing paper work and then take his deposit to the bank.

I want a life with my husband, and I want to have a family. I cannot have either as long as my husband works for schwans.

I worked for Schwans for about 2 years....for the first few months my customers would ask "how long to you plan to stay?"....turn over rate at the depot that I worked out of staggering.....after 1 year I was an "old timer"...my route covered an entire county and I was the only person working that area..BTW, the county that I was assigned contained only 4000 inhabitants that was every man, woman, child, grandma, grandpa and illegal aliens and their families.....when I was asked to sign up new customers my supervisor stated "dig them up from the cemetaries if you have to"....CUSTOMERS used to state "if you have to advertise on the back of your trucks for help, it must be a crummy company to work for"....strang as it may sound, it was one of my customers that helped open the door for the job I have now......more pay, much better benifits and less hours...more family friendly (which schwans is not)....when this company goes public some day look for the labor intensive route system to go away

I worked for this company briefly back in 2006, and quite frankly, I was put in a situation where it was impossible (yes IMPOSSIBLE) to build my route into something bigger than it was. One problem that has been overlooked by other posters is that is some locales, the individual route areas are too small, and there's too heavy a concentration of trucks in one city or region. This looks good from the top of the company (more coverage, more customers being serviced more quickly, etc.) but the practical effect on the route manager is that there is very little if any room for growth. Take a job with this company, and you're just a sucker, plain and simple.

I'm not even sure where I should begin. This is a HORRIBLE job, and I would do anything to take back the time and effort I spent on this worthless trainwreck. The managers are very misleading. Also, the training is a nightmare and is more akin to bootcamp than it is training. I've been in the United States Navy, and I honestly thought that their bootcamp was easier than Schwan's ridiculous "training". I hope you like sitting in a class room listening to mindless babble for 12 hours+. To have a class that long on the same subjects is borderline ridiculous, but hey, Schwan's can do it!

They also lie and mislead you during the training as well. You have a quota of a certain amount of new customers, and certain amount of sales you have to make as well or you'll be fired. This is just a scare tactic, and only total trash talking that they use to make you work harder for them during this training process. It only serves to make you nervous and forget your training. It's a trial by fire, and Schwan's throws you into the jaws of hell. I've literally been asked to go try to get new customers in ghettoish areas near Franklin, WI.

During the training, you are sent away to a training area for 5 days of the week, only going back on weekends. This lasts for 2 months. Once during the training they said they were going to cancel it, so everyone told their families that they would be coming home, only to have that crushed when they changed their minds.

The management of this place is very wishywashy, and they constantly tweak the policies and rules. I had signed a contract saying that I would get a step-down bonus, but then I had to sign another contract saying that they would take this bonus away.

There is a reason that EVERY Schwan's customer complains: "Oh, ANOTHER new Schwan's man?". I feel bad for the customer's because I KNOW that they get horrible customer service. You're encouraged to skip over customers that don't buy a lot by the management. Sorry Grandma Smith, I know you wanted the vanilla ice cream for your social on Sunday but guess what? The Schwan's man can't come through because of the management's absolutely archaic and quite honestly complete crap that they use to organize the routes. Schwan's customers get horrible inconsistent service, and it's almost entirely the fault of the higher ups. It's impossible to reach the number of customers you have, let alone get new customers.

I started lying and making up new customers and just buying the stuff and taking it home. If I didn't reach the quota I would lose my step down bonus and be making around $300 per week, and during this time I would be working about 80 hours. I did NOT slack off at this job, I made this job my life and even at night I would dream about still working because I was working constantly. Do you have family? Do you have friends? If the answer is no, this job may be for you. If you have any other life what so ever, do NOT take this job, I was consistently working 90 hours a week and not making very much in return, probably about $500-700 a week with my step-down bonus that was dwindling each month. Without it, I would be making $300.

This job is a nightmare and a waste of time.

Don't take this job, unless you are desperate, dirt broke, and don't care how many hours you work. Everytime I see a Schwan's man, I feel nothing but pity for him. It's actually a shame because the food is pretty good, and the prices for some of the stuff is reasonable.

I'm not even sure where I should begin. This is a HORRIBLE job, and I would do anything to take back the time and effort I spent on this worthless trainwreck. The managers are very misleading. Also, the training is a nightmare and is more akin to bootcamp than it is training. I've been in the United States Navy, and I honestly thought that their bootcamp was easier than Schwan's ridiculous "training". I hope you like sitting in a class room listening to mindless babble for 12 hours+. To have a class that long on the same subjects is borderline ridiculous, but hey, Schwan's can do it!

They also lie and mislead you during the training as well. You have a quota of a certain amount of new customers, and certain amount of sales you have to make as well or you'll be fired. This is just a scare tactic, and only total trash talking that they use to make you work harder for them during this training process. It only serves to make you nervous and forget your training. It's a trial by fire, and Schwan's throws you into the jaws of hell. I've literally been asked to go try to get new customers in ghettoish areas near Franklin, WI.

During the training, you are sent away to a training area for 5 days of the week, only going back on weekends. This lasts for 2 months. Once during the training they said they were going to cancel it, so everyone told their families that they would be coming home, only to have that crushed when they changed their minds.

The management of this place is very wishywashy, and they constantly tweak the policies and rules. I had signed a contract saying that I would get a step-down bonus, but then I had to sign another contract saying that they would take this bonus away.

There is a reason that EVERY Schwan's customer complains: "Oh, ANOTHER new Schwan's man?". I feel bad for the customer's because I KNOW that they get horrible customer service. You're encouraged to skip over customers that don't buy a lot by the management. Sorry Grandma Smith, I know you wanted the vanilla ice cream for your social on Sunday but guess what? The Schwan's man can't come through because of the management's absolutely archaic and quite honestly complete crap that they use to organize the routes. Schwan's customers get horrible inconsistent service, and it's almost entirely the fault of the higher ups. It's impossible to reach the number of customers you have, let alone get new customers.

I started lying and making up new customers and just buying the stuff and taking it home. If I didn't reach the quota I would lose my step down bonus and be making around $300 per week, and during this time I would be working about 80 hours. I did NOT slack off at this job, I made this job my life and even at night I would dream about still working because I was working constantly. Do you have family? Do you have friends? If the answer is no, this job may be for you. If you have any other life what so ever, do NOT take this job, I was consistently working 90 hours a week and not making very much in return, probably about $500-700 a week with my step-down bonus that was dwindling each month. Without it, I would be making $300.

This job is a nightmare and a waste of time.

Don't take this job, unless you are desperate, dirt broke, and don't care how many hours you work. Everytime I see a Schwan's man, I feel nothing but pity for him. It's actually a shame because the food is pretty good, and the prices for some of the stuff is reasonable.

90% of what this man is telling you is highly exagerated. First off the ride day is not 18 hours long, my ride day was under 14 hours when I started. Of which you are made well aware of this before you go, and the whole point is to give you a worse case scenario of how long the day is. The point is to weed out the lazy bums with no ambition.

It is true that you will probably get put on a route that isn't averaging high $$. But in time if you work on it you can make really good money. Also, the guarantee pay is $750 a week, not $600. After 8 weeks the step down process begins which is met as long as you meet the requirements, which is not hard to do. One of those requirements is to average 2 new customers per day, not 6, again very easy to do.

You must of been riding the short yellow bus to work every day. If you would of had 120 stops on your day you would have found some buying customers home, and been making good money. Apparently your either full of it or were sleeping in your truck.

Now as far as saying there isn't anyone to help build up your route, there again your full of it. That's my job, a csmb and I know you had them in your depot cause were in the same region.

I started with the company in march of 2007, and made $50,000 through december, not bad money huh? Not to mention I was on a capped salary for the first 8 weeks or I would have made more. You also failed to mention the benefits, the incentives or the bonuses you can make. How many companies out there give away trips to the Daytona 500, Las Vegas or even a brand new corvette, not to mention all the hundreds of other prizes.

Get off your short yellow bus and hire a tutor for math. $50,000 divided by 43 weeks = $1,162.79 dividedby 55hrs. which is what I average weekly, =21.14/hr. not bad huh? Or, to put it in yellow bus terms= 18.60/hr times 40 = $744 15hrs overtime would be27.90 times 15 hrs = $418.50, $744 + $418.50= $1,162.50 /week close enough. That's not even adding all the prizes and awards I won this year. I'm not the only that makes this kind of money, a co-worker of mine made $69,000 this year in his first year also. Oh, did I forget to mention that he got a check for $10,000 at the awards banquet this month on top of what he already made, plus his awards and prizes.

I will admit that schwans is a company that is always changing, you just need to get use to it. And it does take hard work and dedication which this moron obviously didn't have. Mostly any employee of Scwans knows the whole idea is to bust your butt to get promoted and not be on deliveries your whole career. Which I forgot to mention that after being with the company less than a year, i'm up for promotion, as soon as I figure out where I want to go.

To sum it up, Schwans is a great company to work for with many opportunities. So if your a lazy bum, this job probably isn't for you.

Phil

retailreality.net is where someone set up a message board just for Schwan employees. Just found it myself. There is even live chat there.

No one wants to work a comission job. Too much unstability. Schwans needs to stop that c#$p and pay their people living wages or they will continue to have a terrible turnover rate!!

In the OP, the poster asks "are you with me thus far?" Uhh no actually I'm not. let's look at your math. Yes I agree that 11% of $500 would be $55. But the last time I checked $55 times 5 days a week would be $275 not the $250 you claim. Yes I know "it's just $25, a little mistake". But it does make me wonder what else in your OP might be "a little mistake".

The original poster has no idea what he/she is talking about for the most part. Period. Now, it's possible that he/she just had poor work conditions. He/she might have worked for a bad LGM. But truth be told, what he/she mostly said is FALSE.

I am a CSM and I started in March of this year. They took eight weeks to train me. The guy who trained me became a very good friend of mine, and we had a great time. They didn't throw me to the wolves, they developed me as a CSM and then assigned me to a mediocre route that averaged about $950-1,000 sales per day.

Within a month, I increased the route average by about $100/day. It took a while. Yes, I did have to put in some long hours. I had to develop some relationships with my customers. It wasn't always fun, but I was doing well. I stayed at that depot for about six months, and then I got married and transferred to another depot. It was a seamless transition and Schwan's even gave me the option of getting on an "Excellence route." This is where you share the route with another driver, have seven straight days off every other week, and your commission is always running at 7.5 percent. Basically, on this new route, the low end income per year is 40K. The high end is around 60K. So, don't tell me (or anyone else for that matter) that you can't make a comfortable living working with Schwan's. At my depot, we are stinking up the joint right now, but we have a good crew, and I guarantee MOST (if not all) of the CSM's there are living comfortably.

And, what are you talking about when you speak of these 18 hour days? I am going to have to call BS on that one as well. The most I ever put in was 15, and that is ONLY because I had an overnight route and had to drive home 2+ hours. DOT regulations say that we can only be out for 14 hours maximum. I usually start at 9AM and I am done by 8-8:30 PM. 11 hour days. I get weekends off and also every other Friday.

I am on pace to make $35K this year and I started in late March.

And building a route is not hard. You speak of having 100 stops and then having to build? I trim the fat off the route. If someone has not bought in three months or so, I ask them if they would still like to be on my route system. Some say yes, finances or other scenarios have just kept them from buying. Some will say that they never plan on buying again. That is when I cut them off. If you do that on a consistent basis, you can get rid of the stops who no longer plan on being a customer. That gives you room and time to build. Also, if you are a likable person and your customers enjoy seeing your face every two weeks, it is very possible that you can ask them for referrals.

I also built a website so my customers can have full access to me. I put things on my site that lets them now I have a life outside of work. I am married, I have hobbies and interests outside of work. To them, I'm not some robot who systematically comes around every two weeks. I am a person trying to make a living by making their lives easier and providing them a product that I believe in.

It also doesn't hurt to take ONE Saturday a month and build your route. I would prefer to be home, but if I can help my wife and I's bank account, then I will do it. Also, now I KNOW your depot sucks if they were giving you a hard time about not getting six new customers per day. I have worked from two depots, and both LGM's I had were very pleased if I came in with ONE.

Schwan's is not perfect, but they are a good company to work for. The hours are no where near as bad as most people think. I work 50-65 hours per week and next year I should make 55K and hit club level, which is more money. I do not want to be a Schwan's Man for the rest of my life because I have bigger goals and dreams, and being on a Flex route, I can finish school (oh, did I mention tuition reimbursement?). But it is a great job for right now and I am thankful that I have met customers who I now call my FRIENDS.

Bottom line: It's the closest thing to being your own boss. If you WANT to succeed, you can and will. Most people quit after a few months. That's on you, not on Schwan's. I am closing in on a year with the company and there is still so much more I could do to improve my route.

schwanstalk.com I found it on the net.

While agree with most of what Justin said I don't agree with the numbers he posted. I was running a flex route and with $6000 a week in sales it did not pay for me to stay with Schwans. At 7.5% commission it did not pay enough. Also I was dealing with someone sweeping my routes regularly and my LGM did not tell me. I figured it out when a few customers told me. They do NOT practice what they preach. Maybe it is better in some depots but my LGM was a dishonest liar. He would tell you anything as long as he thought it would make you feel better.

Justin

to add...

you claim adding new customers takes to much time, yet no one is home. If no one is home-then you go next door and talk to them-and so on.

you always want to improve the route-and from what it sounds like you would stop and find them not home-go back again and again. You don't grow the route doing that and frankly you don't grow the sales volume as well.

one of the rebuttals claimed in a commission job YOU GET WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT. That is simply not true, and is proved by the average $8 per hour.

one thing I always found working for Schwans was how much Route Managers would exagerate their income. I'm not saying they are deliberately lying, but I think they would rework their income in their head to justify at least somewhat the hours worked, the poor benefits, and the personal sacrifice of having little life balance.

anyway, even 40K at an average 65hrs per week is not that great-and I make more than that and work much less than that-with significantly better benefits-but very few Route Mngrs make that.

From what I've been told, over 90% of Route Managers have less than 1 year service with the company-and that says a lot. Obviously most are not "getting what you put into it" and it can't be argued most are lazy. To argue that means Schwans hires poorly (a management issue) or attracts second rate applicants. And, I like to think most people want to work hard.

Schwans has an enormous turnover which is rooted in poor benefits, working conditions, substandard pay-and that's why you see on their trucks "HIRING".

Steve

Edgar,

a couple points....

your routes at 2500 per week average 500 per day. You claim 100 or more stops, which means you virtually never sell anything.

your routes should improve as you work them-yet you don't improve

18hr days equal starting at 8:30 am and going past midnite-which I simply do not believe

yes, average income with Schwans is low-about 8 per hour. It's best to compare a DIVISIONAL average than compare extremely low as yourself, or extremely high as some of the other contributors

I agree, Schwans is a 3rd rate employer-income far less than average-poor benefits-and participates in dishonest employment practices. Anyone who believes Schwans is a quality employer, frankly I feel sorry for them, because you've obviously never worked at a quality company.

Steve

your just a lazy *&*. I make 48000 a year. This is the best company to work for great insurance,great product & great people. I only work 8 hours a day. dont let this one & only one guy say anything to hurt your success with this company.

G.T.

Thomas,

Federal HOS regs DO NOT apply to the operation of a commercial vehicle INTRASTATE like Schwann's. Federal HOS only apply to INTERSTATE commercial vehicle operations. This is clearly spelled out at fmsca.gov.

Intrastate commercial vehicle operations are regulated by STATE laws. Each state varies. For example, here in FL an INTRASTATE [in-state] commercial vehicle operator can work 15 hours per day every day, as long as 8 hours rest can be acheived between shifts.

Therefore the laws in Wisconsin where the OP is operating will be different than where you are operating in Nebraska.


>>Thomas wrote>>
Just to start. Federal regs. only let a Schwan's sales rep work for 14 hours. Last time I did the math 14 times 5 equals 70. Remember that is the maximum. I probably average 55 hours a week and gross over $800 after 1 1/2 years with the company. Also remember that is the time you leave to the time you get back. I take a hour lunch and breaks in that time.

It is just like any other commesion job. YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

If you have 100 stops on a route day you would not have to build because the numbers are there.

You a expected to get 2 new customers per day.

I did make over $40,000 my first year.

If you don't make it with Schwan's you DIDN'T try.

This isn't preschool. Nobody needs to hold your hand. You are a full grown adult.

This guy in one paragraph was whining about nobody being home. The next one said he would miss to many customers if he looked for new ones.

It is the easiest job I have ever had.

Thomas - Elm Creek, Nebraska
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It's not the first time we have heard about Schwann's.

Thomas,

Federal HOS regs DO NOT apply to the operation of a commercial vehicle INTRASTATE like Schwann's. Federal HOS only apply to INTERSTATE commercial vehicle operations. This is clearly spelled out at fmsca.gov.

Intrastate commercial vehicle operations are regulated by STATE laws. Each state varies. For example, here in FL an INTRASTATE [in-state] commercial vehicle operator can work 15 hours per day every day, as long as 8 hours rest can be acheived between shifts.

Therefore the laws in Wisconsin where the OP is operating will be different than where you are operating in Nebraska.


>>Thomas wrote>>
Just to start. Federal regs. only let a Schwan's sales rep work for 14 hours. Last time I did the math 14 times 5 equals 70. Remember that is the maximum. I probably average 55 hours a week and gross over $800 after 1 1/2 years with the company. Also remember that is the time you leave to the time you get back. I take a hour lunch and breaks in that time.

It is just like any other commesion job. YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

If you have 100 stops on a route day you would not have to build because the numbers are there.

You a expected to get 2 new customers per day.

I did make over $40,000 my first year.

If you don't make it with Schwan's you DIDN'T try.

This isn't preschool. Nobody needs to hold your hand. You are a full grown adult.

This guy in one paragraph was whining about nobody being home. The next one said he would miss to many customers if he looked for new ones.

It is the easiest job I have ever had.

Thomas - Elm Creek, Nebraska
>>>

It's not the first time we have heard about Schwann's.

Thomas,

Federal HOS regs DO NOT apply to the operation of a commercial vehicle INTRASTATE like Schwann's. Federal HOS only apply to INTERSTATE commercial vehicle operations. This is clearly spelled out at fmsca.gov.

Intrastate commercial vehicle operations are regulated by STATE laws. Each state varies. For example, here in FL an INTRASTATE [in-state] commercial vehicle operator can work 15 hours per day every day, as long as 8 hours rest can be acheived between shifts.

Therefore the laws in Wisconsin where the OP is operating will be different than where you are operating in Nebraska.


>>Thomas wrote>>
Just to start. Federal regs. only let a Schwan's sales rep work for 14 hours. Last time I did the math 14 times 5 equals 70. Remember that is the maximum. I probably average 55 hours a week and gross over $800 after 1 1/2 years with the company. Also remember that is the time you leave to the time you get back. I take a hour lunch and breaks in that time.

It is just like any other commesion job. YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

If you have 100 stops on a route day you would not have to build because the numbers are there.

You a expected to get 2 new customers per day.

I did make over $40,000 my first year.

If you don't make it with Schwan's you DIDN'T try.

This isn't preschool. Nobody needs to hold your hand. You are a full grown adult.

This guy in one paragraph was whining about nobody being home. The next one said he would miss to many customers if he looked for new ones.

It is the easiest job I have ever had.

Thomas - Elm Creek, Nebraska
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It's not the first time we have heard about Schwann's.

1- This is a free country - you are free to work in any industry or for any company. No one is forcing you to work for Schwans.

2- If you are unhappy with Schwans, then QUIT and find a job elsewhere.

3- If you do not want to work hard to EARN your salary, you will continue having issues such as these throughout your life. A job is a PRIVILEGE, not a right! You work FOR the company, not the other way around.

4- Start acting like a mature, responsible adult, and you will get much farther in life.

1- This is a free country - you are free to work in any industry or for any company. No one is forcing you to work for Schwans.

2- If you are unhappy with Schwans, then QUIT and find a job elsewhere.

3- If you do not want to work hard to EARN your salary, you will continue having issues such as these throughout your life. A job is a PRIVILEGE, not a right! You work FOR the company, not the other way around.

4- Start acting like a mature, responsible adult, and you will get much farther in life.

1- This is a free country - you are free to work in any industry or for any company. No one is forcing you to work for Schwans.

2- If you are unhappy with Schwans, then QUIT and find a job elsewhere.

3- If you do not want to work hard to EARN your salary, you will continue having issues such as these throughout your life. A job is a PRIVILEGE, not a right! You work FOR the company, not the other way around.

4- Start acting like a mature, responsible adult, and you will get much farther in life.

1- This is a free country - you are free to work in any industry or for any company. No one is forcing you to work for Schwans.

2- If you are unhappy with Schwans, then QUIT and find a job elsewhere.

3- If you do not want to work hard to EARN your salary, you will continue having issues such as these throughout your life. A job is a PRIVILEGE, not a right! You work FOR the company, not the other way around.

4- Start acting like a mature, responsible adult, and you will get much farther in life.

Just to start. Federal regs. only let a Schwan's sales rep work for 14 hours. Last time I did the math 14 times 5 equals 70. Remember that is the maximum. I probably average 55 hours a week and gross over $800 after 1 1/2 years with the company. Also remember that is the time you leave to the time you get back. I take a hour lunch and breaks in that time.

It is just like any other commesion job. YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

If you have 100 stops on a route day you would not have to build because the numbers are there.

You a expected to get 2 new customers per day.

I did make over $40,000 my first year.

If you don't make it with Schwan's you DIDN'T try.

This isn't preschool. Nobody needs to hold your hand. You are a full grown adult.

This guy in one paragraph was whining about nobody being home. The next one said he would miss to many customers if he looked for new ones.

It is the easiest job I have ever had.